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Francois Willot
The last Picsou issue was published last week (# 313); it is a special
Donald's car issue (well - this Donald's car business is just a joke). A
new Don Rosa's drawing (showing DD's car of course) is published inside
the magazine, just before Don's old "313" ten-pager. For marketing
reasons, the editors are not allowed to publish these drawings on the
cover. The covers are still done by Patrice Croci, and occasionaly by
Francois Pasquet, Yannick Hodbert or Ulrish Schroder. (As for the
Journal de Mickey, covers should be approved by Disney-Europe, and are
often changed. The cover about "Independance day" for example was not
approved by Disney Europe, because Iindependance Day was not a Disney
film!).

An interesting fact mentionned in Picsou is that:

D+U+C+K = 4+21+3+11 = 39 = 3x13

I'm sure the Donaldists knew it!

Chris Barat:

> It's been argued that a more "rational" base would be base 12, because > 12 has
> so many proper divisors (2, 3, 4, 6) and therefore fractional
> calculations in
> a duodecimal system would be less complicated than those in base 10.
> There's
> even a group called the Duodecimal Society that (half-humorously) puts
> out a
> regular journal advocating a switch to base 12.

And what about 360? It's divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 30, 15,
18, 20! But is 360 more "rational" than 12?

Francois
PAULO CEZAR LOPES BARRETO,BARRETO
ALL:

LO$
In your humble opinion, what's the best way (if any) to buy "Lo$" online?

HERITAGE
I found a little food for thought on the discussion on who will be
swimming in money after Uncle Scrooge's death (knock wood): the
October 1991 "Edicao Extra: Os Herdeiros do Tio Patinhas", a 68-page
issue with (not so great) stories concerning that theme. So they are:

****** SPOILERS! (possibly) ******

"Procura-se um Herdeiro" (S 0266) -- U$ worries about the future of
his business and tests DD & Gladstone by loaning them equal amounts;
whoever makes the most profit in a ridiculously short time gets the
right to be U$'s heir. GG plays DD a con game about oil-rich lands.
"Dinheiro e Areia" (no code available, probably drawn by Strobl) --
Not exactly about heritage: an old cousin, regarded as dead for
decades, shows up claiming half of U$'s pile according to an old deal
(U$ was loaned a few bucks to start his business). DD finds the real
cousin in Quantareya (Whatalotofsand) Desert.
"Quem Nasceu Donald Jamais Sera' Patinhas" (no code available) -- This
time U$ tests DD by making him "find" a trifle amount; however, DD
realizes it was *another* U$'s test and lets GG invest the money.
Some details worth noting: U$ is sure DD is his sole heir and feels
sick of just imagining what DD would do with his cash; DD is as sure
as U$ about the heritage issue (GG doesn't really get into the
dispute) and knows U$ wants to test him.
"O Feitico da Generosidade" -- Again, not exactly about heritage. U$
gets spellbound and (nearly) bestows all his $$$$$ to Magica. Oddly,
Magica is in it for the money (no references to the #1 dime
whatsoever) and at last Magica gets in trouble with Immigration.
"Herdeiros Desordeiros" (S 1021) -- U$ finds out he has a lumberjack
nephew (Alex McDuck) and sees him as an heritage prospect; DD & GG
feel themselves left behind and try to become outstanding lumberjacks as well.

****** END SPOILERS *****

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JALustig
Steven Rowe:

<<Which reminds me, did I ever tell
any about the talk I had with Dick Moores about his Mickey Mouse stories?>>

Well, I certainly haven't heard anything about it. I'm a big fan of Moores'
work on Gasoline Alley. And what I've seen of his Mickey Mouse work I've found
interesting. I'd personally love to hear anything you'd like to share about
Moore and his work.

---John Lustig
Cebarat
HARRY FLUKS, responding to the Dutch newspaper quote:
>Bern - The number of criminal offences with which Mickey Mouse and Donald
>Duck come in touch, has increased enormously since the 1950s.
responded:
<<This is very natural, when you know that also the number of
*stories* has increased enourmously since the 1950s!>>

Very neatly done! A masterpiece of statistical brevity. :-)

A elated question is why was this piece of intelligence put on the front page
of a daily newspaper? I can understand the Gladstone news getting put there,
because of the great popularity of Disney comics in Europe, but this hardly
seems like "news" to me.

FRANCOIS WILLOT:
<<And what about [base] 360? It's divisible by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9, 10, 30,
15,
18, 20! But is 360 more "rational" than 12?>>

The Babylonians used 360 as the basis of their circle measurements (360
degrees = one complete circle) and the base of their number system was base
60. 60 and 360 seem far less obvious to me than 10, or even 12.

I guess that the Babylonians were attracted by the large number of proper
divisors of both 60 AND 360.

-- Christopher E. Barat
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JALustig
Francois:

Thanks for the list showing which of my stories have been published in France.
By the way, I figured you actually knew that Branca was the artist of that one
story and that mentioning Vicar was just a mistake. To play it safe, though, I
just wanted to set the record straight officially.

By the way, I've never really understood the relationship between Egmont and
the publications that come out in France. My impression has been that the
French publisher is considerably more independant than Scandinavian publishers
who use Egmont material. Do you know anything about this? I'm curious.

---John Lustig
SRoweCanoe
Disney Adventures March of 1988 continues to be spineless - Volume 8 #5

This has a 4 page article by my old buddy, Jim Korkis, on animation greats.

Comics include: (and no code #s included anywhere on them)

Pepper Ann * Dr. Explodo's Closet! 8pp
Scott Gimple, writer; Stephanie Gladden, artist
Matt Maley, letters, Susan Daigle-Leach, colorist
Captain Blammo! Versus Toxo the Bear
Gone Fission (1p); Reverse Psychology (1p); Big Surprise (2pp)
Writer and artist and (c) by Gregory Benton
Bone * Fire and Brimestone (7pp) "Adopted" (and reprinted) from Bone
Writer and artist and (c) Jeff Smith; Tom Luth, colorist

I just today noticed comic book folks in the magazine's illustrations; let me
list them.
Steve Smallwood (puzzle), Mark Martin (puzzle), Robert Piersanti (puzzle)Ron
Barret (puzzle). Issue theme: Coolist Cartoon Kids (and they ain't Huey Dewey
or Louie!)

Steven Rowe
Michael Naiman
Hi to the UK....would a Digest member from Great Britain please contact me?
Thanx!
Fluks, H.W.
Steven:
>Disney Adventures March of 1988 continues to be spineless - Volume 8 #5

You're really fast, reporting about comics from 10 years ago... 8-)

--Harry.
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Fluks, H.W.
Chris:
>> Bern - The number of criminal offences with which Mickey Mouse and Donald
>> Duck come in touch, has increased enormously since the 1950s.
>A elated question is why was this piece of intelligence put on the front page
>of a daily newspaper?

Newspapers usually need "entertaining" news as well as "real"
news. And some newspapers put that entertaining news on the
front page.
In *my* newspaper, it was on page 6. But I think my newspaper
is better than Daniel's... 8-)

>I can understand the Gladstone news getting put there

Unlike in Italy, the Gladstone news was not covered at all in
Holland. As serious news it's not important enough,
and as non-serious news it's not entertaining...

--Harry.
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
For some strange reason my computer gave an error-message while getting
new post and as it appears some mails are now lost. If you sent me a
message yesterday or today, can you please resend it?

Greetings,

--- Daniel
Fluks, H.W.
LUCA:

Thanks for the information about Strobl and about the Lucca comics
convention. I think I won't come to Lucca this time, because my
sister offered me a trip to Prague around the same time.

Also, PAOLO, DAVID et al. thanks for all the information
about Fethry and Tabby. I haven't had the time yet to
compare your indexes with my Dutch index, but it will
be interesting.

David wrote:
> that story (X 4099, "Ditch Day") isn't drawn
> by him (it's by Pete Alvarado, according to the ddb - anyway, it
> certainly doesn't look like Hubbard).

Luca replied:
> OK, maybe it's Alvarado, but it'd be strange. Jim Fletcher was starting to
do stories
> teaming-up with Kinney in that period, and was *he* who went on drawing
Hustler or
> [...] Maybe he is the artist,
> not Alvarado, who didn't work for Overseas market in that period.

Maybe I miscredited Alvarado for this one. It is hard to distinguish
all this really bad artists from the early S-coded time. And it's
even harder when they imitate each other or other artists, for
learning...

--Harry.
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Fluks, H.W.
Katie:
>RE: Don Rosa's "Eye for Detail" in the latest WDC&S:
>Had this ever been published in the U.S. before?

Nope. This was the first time.
I agree it's a good story, and I hope to be able to
read it in English some day...

--Harry.
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Eta Beta
DWIGHT

>But could Goscinny do that joke these days? Isn't it a bit...er,
>politically incorrect to find humor in the plight of the
>physically challenged?

Well, the matter of PC is quite debatable, I guess, and also on
topic, since it's the main reason an awful lot of Disney comics
cannot be (re)printed in the States...

The problem is, IMO, where do we draw the line dividing respect
for racial and cultural issues from hypocrisy and plain stupidity ?

Here's an example from a movie I stumbled on while channel-hopping
on the telly the other day:

1st guy - Did you hear about the tetraplegic who tried to swim
across the English Channel ?
2nd guy - No. Did he make it ?
1st guy - No, he had to stop midway because he had sore ears...
2nd guy - Don't you think it's a rather tasteless joke ?
1st guy - It would be if you told it... I'm allowed.

(at this point is revealed that the 1st guy is on wheelchair himself)

According to this point of view, the answer to your question would be

Yes, Goscinny could, since he's quite physically challenged himself,
what with being dead an' all... ;-)

SHAUN CRAILL

>What I found totally fascinating was some of the similarities
>between the Charlie Chaplin character and Scrooge's character.

The movie surely was "The Gold Rush".
I believe Chaplin was one of the most influential artists of
the century, so it wouldn't be unlikely if Barks took some
inspiration from his work as well, but the Gold Rush is (was ?)
also a proper "mythos" in its own right, in the American culture.
I seem to recall there were books on the subject, with "typical"
characters described and portrayed, well before even Chaplin's
movie was done.

RICH

>the Red Wasp should probably be a villian instead of a
>Duckburgian hero.

Of course. Just imagine it : a "Red" (communist) "WASP"
(white anglo-saxon etc.).
The proverbial white fly would be quite easier to find... ;-)

Cheers

Eta Beta

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PAULO CEZAR LOPES BARRETO,BARRETO
RICH:

>> Would any JW (or anyone else) proud to wear an "HIV" patch nowadays?

>If I recall, that story does indeed explain what HIV stands for.

Correct. However, although I've back-translated each Portuguese word
to corresponding English words with the same initials, please note I'm
referring exclusively to the Brazilian version -- the abbreviation in
the English original (and in translations to other languages) should
have been different.

The problem with immature attitude toward sexuality is surely
widespread (not only in the U.S.), and that's why I raised this topic:
Brazil wouldn't republish the story exactly as it was in the 70's.
Maybe younger readers won't be much aware of the HIV (virus), but
older ones *will* think the HIV patch was some kind of prank from the
JW chief -- that is, the honor patch won't be taken seriously in the
first place, which is completely opposite to the very "Honesty,
Integrity, Veracity" meaning. Luckily, the patch stuff doesn't play a
key role in the story (HDL go camping, see "things", swear it's true,
nobody believes them, they try to defend their standpoint before the
Beagle Brats by showing the HIV patches, Brats themselves rip HDL's
patches off in punishment for their assumed lies, etc. etc.) and the
patches can be easily reworded.

The general idea is we have to accept the fact that Disney comics must
adapt themselves to the new times and the new language trends as any
other mass-consumption product. Maybe the HIV matter is more
complicated than the "politically incorrect" Red Wasp, for "HIV" alone
doesn't reminds us anything different from the virus, so the patch
seems (in the '90s) to be a made-up double entendre. Anyway, in a
not-so-far past, the super-hero could be regarded as the "Communist
Wasp"... :-)

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Kriton Kyrimis
SOEREN KRARUP OLESEN:

> Oups! Calculation error: 2 years old is too young.
> I think I'll stick to the decimal system.

(I assume you meant 20.)

This statement was probably made in the rashness of your 1F years' youth.
20 (pronounced "thirty two") is exactly the same number as the one that
those misguided souls who use the A-based system would write as "32",
using the same characters that we, hexadecimally-minded people, would
use to write the number fifty.

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

I sincerely hope I have managed to confuse everybody!
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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