Keskustelujen arkisto

Readers of the scandinavian weekly can expext a truly rare gem in #28. (Out
now!)
A 1948 Giveaway Walt Kelly story that I believe never has been reprinted
anywhere before.

/Joakim Gunnarsson

Hello!

Dani?l:
>>> The story you mean must be the story in which Donald uses a geiger
>> counter to find the *dirty* nephews (WDC 184).

Right. Read it again last night. Very funny.
The idea is of the nephews hiding in the lamp shade, though, always strikes
me as odd. How can they hang in there? Cartoony licence, but still.
Here's something worth investigating: Barks' use of such impossible
cartoony gags (a character stretching, swallowing something, ...) as opposed
to his otherwise "realistic" depictions.

Olivier

Hello Don.

I know that your call for help was about two weeks ago (and I don't
know if anyone has answered yet), but I could at least help you out
with the first three chapters of Lo$ and the storys "Last Sled to
Dawson" and (thanks to Gemstone) "The Dutchman' Secret", because they are the only ones I
have got in English. Fortunately there are not many inaccurate
translations (especially in the newer storys), but there still are
some.

So here's what I could find:

Lo$ 1: "The Last of the Clan McDuck"
---------------------
p. 3: In the original script Swindle tricked Seaform in 1753, in the
translation it was 1775.
p.8: Maybe not really important, but the price for shoeshining still is five
pence in the translation, while it has been changed to 4 pence in the
original.
p.11: The year 1220, when Swamphole McDuck sealed the dungeons under
the castle, isn't mentioned in the translation.

Lo$ 2: "The Master of the Mississippi"
---------------------
I don't know if it's a real historic ship, but the name of the "River
Witch" has been translated into German ("Flusshexe").
p. 9: In the original version Ratchet Gearloose says "Let me know if you see
Lily Langtry". This reference has been removed in the translation
(surely because nearly nobody knows her in Germany).

Lo$ 3: "The Buckaroo of the Badlands"
---------------------
p.1: The reference to the "Wabash Cannonball" has been removed in the
translation. The old man in the train still says that he had
discovered the square eggs.
p.5: "Murdo MacKenzie" is written "Murdo McKenzie" in the translation.
p.9: In the translatio the dinosaur is dead since 65 million years, in
the original version that are 100 mio. years.

"Last sled to Dawson":
--------------------
p. 3: In the "Micky Maus" weekly the calender at the "Whitehorse Bank"
was changed to 1989, in the Don Rosa Album they made it 1889 (in the
original version it's 1899).
p. 4: In the translation Casey Coot says that Fort Duckburg is
situated at the eastern coast (correct would be western coast).
p. 5: In the translation $crooge didn't meet with a poet called Robert
W. Service, but only recites a poem by "Freddy Flenn". The text has
also been changed. Unfortunately I couldn't find a German translation
in the internet. It seems as if Service's poetry is not very well
known in Germany.
p. 11: The "Saloon" on panel 5 has been translated with "Casino". The
text on the pedestal of the $crooge statue ("King of the Klondike
1896-1902") has been removed in the translation.
p. 28: In the last panel Goldie says in the translation, that the
chocolates are from 1898, but in fact $crooge bought them one year
later.

"The Dutchman's Secret":
---------------------
p. 1: The date in "Office supplies, surplus, 1890-1910" has been
removed in the translation (but it can sill be read on the cover of
the book).
p. 2 ff.: "Jacob Waltz" has always been changed to "Jakob Walz" in
the translation (but there exist different spellings of his name, I
found "Jacob Walz" as well as "Jakob Walts" in the internet).
p. 5: The 240 square miles have been changed to 240 square kilometers
in the German translation.
p. 10: The inscription of "tunnel" and "below" has been mixed up in
the translation.
p. 13: Donald's nephews talk of an "Anastazi village" in the
translation (instead of "Anasazi").

Best regards,
Arne.

Regarding the comments about Barks and TV, especially the following:

rodney-selfhelpbikeco at juno.com

>I have however heard, from actual interviews with Barks that he rarely (if
ever) >watched television, preferring instead to read (yes, you can keep up
with news events >by picking up the daily newspaper. I do it all of the
time!). Considering that he had >little interest in television, it
certainly wasn't a priority, and I don't find it hard to >believe that he
waited as long as possible before buying a TV set (I assume this is >spoken
of in the interview book).
.

Even though I recently completed editing and publishing the Barks interview
book, there was so much information that I had to cut out, it's difficult to
remember what was included and what wasn't, but I don't believe this issue
came up in the book (note below that I did find one reference), so I thought
I should indicate my memory of the situation.

I know that by the time Carl had been doing the oil paintings for a while
(after 1971), he sometimes seemed irked when I arrived to visit and
immediately wanted to see his latest work. He was often engrossed in
watching some sports event on TV--football, baseball, golf, etc.--but he'd
sort of grumpily get up and show me what was going on in his studio
upstairs. Then he'd go back to watching whatever he'd been watching on TV.
After this happened a couple of times I waited for him to invite me up to
the studio at his convenience. Around 1975 he was able to get a free (or
almost free) cable feed from LA with many stations (although he didn't pay
for all the stations, he didn't illegally access them either; for some
reason they were just available there in Goleta, and he took advantage of
having them, primarily to watch sports). I recall he said in a phone
conversation we had late in 1997, just before the really bad phase of the
lawsuits involving his managers emerged, that he was tired of talking about
depressing things and switched the subject to the University of
Florida/Florida State football rivalry--a game that was soon coming up on TV
("those guys really hate each other, don't they?"). I think TV sports was a
great diversion for him then as it had always been. During my final visit
with him in 2000, we often sat around watching golf on TV, and he was
complaining because he felt they were spending too much time focusing on the
older players, when he wanted to see more of how Tiger Woods was doing.

I just remembered PROBABLY the only reference to TV news in the interview
book (from a 1999 interview):

"I get mad like everybody else at the stupid things people are doing in
different parts of the world, but what could I do about it? I couldn't hire
an army to go over there and kick somebody's butt. Just have to watch TV and
hope we'll get some better news someday." (page 214)

Donald Ault
Professor of English
University of Florida
ault at ufl.edu
http://www.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/

DON

>Cripes. All those newspaper articles about me while I was in Napoli... do
>you suppose they were all as inaccurate as this one?!

Yes, generally speaking newspapers don't bother much with accuracy,
around here, they want scoops and lots of noise...

>I am the father of the Ducks?

BIG is the word. "probably the best Disney author these days" wouldn't
be BIG enough, "father of the Ducks" is...

>I will publish comics in America?

Guess I might've been a tad too literal with these translations...
I actually meant it to show how bad the original article was in
italian already... :-)

What they meant here is that your stories would soon be published
in the States again, not that you would be the publisher yourself.

>I said Naples was just as I expected it? I don't talk much?

As far as I can tell, neither Barks ever said "it's all different",
and we know he was well documented himself...

>Didn't anyone translate the newspaper headline-articles about me after my
>wife was robbed by a pursesnatcher? Those would be fun to read.

I've heard that appeared in newspapers, but didn't have a chance
to read it myself. The incident was reported faithfully in a
comics magazine, though, as you know.

That said, I must make clear that these translation I did were
from the *local*, Naples only, section of "Repubblica", which is
one of the most important italian papers and which, in the
nationwide section, every now and then offers serious, decent
and well documented articles about comics and authors.

It's just that the local crews are... well, limited...

Here's an anecdote from the local paper here, from Trieste (that's
a "whole" local paper, not a section).

Months ago we celebrated 70 years of Disney comics in Italy, and
this paper, "Il Piccolo" (The Small One), headlined in its first page

"70 years of Disney comics in Italy : A success born in Trieste !"

If you bothered to read the actual article inside, which not many
people seem to do these days, you'd realize the main connection
between Disney comics and Trieste is that the *brother* of Giove Toppi,
who drew a few Mickey strips in the early 30s, had lived in Trieste for
a few years, and no less than TWO current italian Disney artists
were born there... :-)

What really bugs me is they insist on calling this "information"...

Cheers!

Eta Beta

> Gary Leach wrote on April 22nd:
>
>> In the upcoming Free Comic Book Day edition of "Majarajah Donald",
>> there is a single incidence of current "censorship" on Disney's part.
>> This "correction" was not in the original CBL or in the CBL in Color
>> album. I'll be interested to see if anyone here can spot it. I'm not
>> sure I would.
>
> I couldn't find it! And I compared the story with the CBL in Color
> version page by page!
>
> --Harry.

Harry, you're a trooper. If you'd like to have another go, here's Hint
1) - it's in the dialogue.

Gary

How old is Blackheart Beagle? I say over 100 years old by 1952. When Scrooge
and Blackheart first met, Blackheart was a father already with grown children
of his own. For a man who could possibly be around 110 (my guess), he sure is
a formidable opponent to Scrooge as in Don Rosa's "A Little Something
Special." Scrooge himself is pretty advanced in age as well and can still kick butt!

Fernando:

> fjm02235c - LeBornec/Comicup - Gonzalez
>
> The entire name of the creators will be great! :-)

Didier le Bornec.

Gonzalez (he works for the Comicup studio in Barcelona): we don't know his first name...

--Harry.