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Lars Jensen
A little late, but...

Stefan Persson wrote:

> > > I suspect it was a model. As far as I know, the time machine is
> > > still under repair, after Oona crashed it in D 93505.
> >
> >I have two questions. Choose the correct one:
> >So Oona appeared in "Donald Duck Time Travel" series?
> >Or:
> >So this time machine appeared also besides "DD Time machine" series?
>
> Oona first appeared in the weekly. Donald used the time machine from
> the time machine series, but the story does not have anything else to
> do with the time machine series.

Stefan pretty much nailed it. The plotter of the first Oona story,
Stefan Printz-Påhlson, was also involved with the time machine stories
back when, and he thought it would be fun to give this particular time
machine one last appearance. Thus, the use of it in "Princess Oona" (D
93505).

Lars
Rodney-selfhelpbikeco
Derek sez...
>My experience has seemed to be the opposite. I guess it's just the >indivdiual
>comics and not any real change in paper.

And I sez...
Please don't take this as an insult or an insinuation that you don't know how to take care of your comics or anything like that, but I've always changed my bags and backing boards every couple of years (as soon as the bag smells of old paper). I stopped collecting comics when Disney took them over (and looking through them today, I remember why)but I bought most of them from a work-mate a couple of years ago. He didn't ever change the bags and backing boards, and I think that's why the paper has aged to the extent that it has in such a short period of time.

If I remember correctly, Don Rosa doesn't bag many of his comics at all, and they're in great shape!

rodney.

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Søren Krarup Olesen
Hi all,

Just ran some general statistics on the Inducks files, and came to think of
who in this world has made Disney comics the longest time. Chierchini's first
story was published in 1956 and we still see comics from him in the Danish
(Scandinavian) pocket books. This also goes for Gatto (first publ. in 1958).

The two candidates for the "prize" are however Luciano Bottaro and Romano
Scarpa. Bottaro: 1952-2001, Scarpa: 1953-2002 (both 49 years of comic making!)

Did I forget some American, Dutch or French artists...or any others?

S?ren
J LeRose
Olaf,
Just to join you, but without tongue in cheek,
I think many critics are missing some great stories by limiting
themselves to Barks & Rosa (both of which are obviously two of my
favorites).
For example "Somewhere in Nowhere" art by Patrick Block (early work at
that)
I'll grant the story was inspired by Barks but Lustig did a great job,
and Barks did choose Block to do the art.
I mention this art by Block especially, since he is scheduled to do more
Gemstones including some "silly" characters.
To me Block is closer to Barks in style than Rosa who while following
the Duck story line is more original with his work.
I have stories and art by over 50 different artists, and some are great,
some are dumb, but by having them we all get more involved and they also
give a good basis for comparison.
Can you imagine if every duck was by Barks or Rosa, it would be like the
movie Judge Dread where every restaurant was a Taco Bell.

Nice response!
Best
Jeff

dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se wrote:

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Gemstone's mix
> Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 14:37:30 +0200
> From: "Olaf Solstrand" <olaf at andebyonline.com>
> To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>
> Well, it's about time someone said it. What on earth is the point of
> publishing Disney Comics NOT consisting only of Rosa and Barks stories?
> Those darn publishers should have understood by now that what we, the
> readers, want, is Don Rosa and Carl Barks.
>
> Yes, perhaps a few people still want childish comics like Disney Babies and
> Mickey Mouse, but who cares about them? We're the majority. Ask anyone, and
> they can tell you that Don Rosa is a god amongst comics creators. And as all
> his stuff is based on Carl Barks, Barks can't be that bad either. Anyhow,
> one should always listen to the majority when making comics. Don Rosa
> himself wrote a very good example on this on DCML once:
> http://stp.ling.uu.se/pipermail/dcml/2000-February/012198.html
>
> KEEP MY DISNEY COMIC CLEAR OF CHILDISH WOLVES. If Gemstone absolutely wants
> to print these silly childish characters, they should do it in an own wolf
> comic book. I'm 100% sure there's market for that in the USA.
>
> And when it comes to Duck comics: If it's not by Carl Barks or Don Rosa,
> don't print it. It's not worth reading anyway, and it's only those boring
> pages we have to browse to finally come to the Don Rosa comic (and we have
> to buy ALL issues just in case they HIDE Don Rosa comics inbetween them -
> would you believe that the Scandinavian weeklies, when printing a two-pager
> Don Rosa did the artwork to, DON'T announce that on the cover?). Nah, if
> it's not Don Rosa (or that guy Barks), we don't want it. So why do they make
> those comics at all? Gemstone and Disney always complain they have so little
> money. Well, can't they just fire all those unknown amateurs such as William
> van Horn, Lars Jensen, all those crazy Italians... We don't want them
> anyway, so just fire them and use the entire magazine for Don Rosa and Carl
> Barks! That way Disney could save a lot of money, and even get more readers
> as many probably today want to buy the comic, but don't do it because
> there's so many childish wolf stories in them. And if Disney saves money and
> gets more readers, it should be possible to get the books for a decent
> price, too!
>
> Hopefully, Don Rosa will live for another 30-40 years. By then he should be
> able to produce quite a lot of stories, so when he leaves this world there
> will be plenty of stories to reprint. In other words, Disney comics in USA
> could live on for centuries, and they would all be GOOD stories, Don Rosa
> and Carl Barks.
>
> And, Gemstone and all other publishers: If some engineer from Kentucky or
> something EVER should come to you and say "I'm destined to make Disney
> Comics" - don't listen to him. Don't even give him a chance. He can't be as
> good as Don Rosa anyway. ALL IN FAVOUR THAT DISNEY COMICS SHOULD BE ROSA
> (eventually a little Barks) ONLY!
>
> We, the target group of Gemstone's comics (including Fabio and myself), want
> Don Rosa and Carl Barks. And nothing but that.
>
> ______________________
> Olaf the Blue :-)
>

>
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Mateusz Lis
Hi all,

Oh boy, oh boy, I bought a scanner yesterday! Now I can show you what I
found during last few months.

In my English-Polish dictionary I found Jimminy Cricket family tree. The
original title of this dictionary is "The giant word book". I put the scan
of the cover here:
http://disneymania.w.interia.pl/cover.jpg
and here is the tree:
http://disneymania.w.interia.pl/family_tree.jpg

In the book "Donald and the Loch Ness Monster" Ian and Jacob McDucks
appeared.
Here is the cover:
http://disneymania.w.interia.pl/cover_monster.JPG

and the portrait of cousins:
http://disneymania.w.interia.pl/cousins.jpg

Best wishes,
Mateusz Lis
Fabio Blanco
> As well as collecting Disney comics most of my life, I've also been a big
> collector of Marvel, DC and other comics. I have a large "super-hero"
> comic collection, and have recently gone through a BIG change in my desire
> to continue with most of those companies' offerings. Marvel, in
particular,
> has left a very sour taste in my mouth. I have dropped nearly EVERY title
> and have a strong disdain for that company's management. Their new
management
> is, to me, likened to the RJ Reynolds of comics. They seem to feel that
> the older/longtime collectors of Marvel comics are not worth their effort
> and have decided to aim squarely at the younger, hipper new generation of
> collectors. They have shaken up their titles and the longstanding
character
> continuity and decided to throw the bulk of it away, and have even told
the
> older fans that they believe they are not a reliable source of continued
> revenue (being that we are old and dying). They feel they must attract
and
> sustain "younger" collectors. This has pissed me off and I have watched
over
> the past couple years as they have eroded away so much of what I used to
> love about Marvel's characters. I have dropped all but two titles from
> Marvel. And given their continued erosion, I may soon drop those as well.
>

I don't know. At least in Marvel one know what buy. You have the ultimate
line for new readers that'll read again and again the tale of Spidey vs. The
Green Goblin and the Marvel Knights seal with very good writers like B.M.
Bendis, Garth Ennis... you have Brian Azzarello and Corben on the Banner
miniseries, Grant Morrison on New X Men (the issue with Wolverine and
Cyclops drinking in the Hell's Fire Club was amazing!!) and now Neil Gaiman
in 1602.

The matter I can't understand is that Jean Piaget sect who produce dumb,
simple comics for kids... We was kids of the same age when we read Carl
Barks stories!!!

FABIO
agent of the chaos :-)

bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
ZeldasTriforce
To Rodney:

I only got into Disney comics during the Disney Comics(1990-93) era. My only
first-hand expreience(comics I've bought myself when they appeared for the
first time) is with Disney Comics and Gladstone Series II. The only Series I
comics I've ever had were bought used in comic shops, in which a majority of them
are yellowed in the way I described. So I guess I had the luck of being comics
that weren't stored properly(though the covers and pages outside of yellowing
are great).

Personally, except for the few comics(Series 1, a few others) I've bought
that were already bagged/boarded, I've just put my Disney comics in small stacks
in plastic grocery bags! They've all stayed nice and white/great condition
overall. I guess the Don Rosa way of comics storage is the best way!

But I've thought of buying bags/boards for the rest of my comics. So you
suggest changing them every few years? What happens to the boards/bags that hurts
the comics?
-------------------------

Oh, a small comment about the upcoming DDA. Apparently it will be called #1?
I feel sorry for a Disney comics newbie just getting into DDA collecting. You
have DDA #1 from the Gladstone era. Then DDA #1 for the Disney Comics era.
Then Series 2 begins with it's own numbering continuing from Series 1. Now,
here's a third DDA #1. Has Disney comics decided to follow Marvel? ;)

Also it seems that the formerly titled Gemstone comics 'Donald Duck and
Friends' has now become Donald Duck? Yet it'll still have a supporting Mickey
story? If that's so, the DD&Friends moniker would have seemed a better fit with
'Mickey Mouse and Friends', which is doing the opposite, except with Mickey at
the forefront.

Derek Smith
Carlos De Gregorio
Didier wrote:
I was wondering if there would be a Spanish collector on the list that
could give me in-depth information about the Disney titles published by
publisher Saturnino Calleja in the '30s or that would know someone that
would have that info.

As far as I know, Satunino Calleja only published a Disney title,
"Mickey", with 16 issues between 1935 and 1936 (after that year, Spain
was at war). I have an issue, in very bad state. It has 16 pages aside
from the cover, and it includes Gottfredson strips, printed in two
colours (blue and red), with the text under the strip. The measures are
27,5 x 21 cm. I think this edition is very similar to another published
in France by Hachette, isn?t it?
The titles of the 16 issues are:
1- Aventuras de Mickey
2- Mickey en la casa encantda
3- Mickey buscador de oro
4- Mickey en el valle infernal
5- Mickey contra Ratino
6- Mickey vence a Ratino
7- Mickey boxeador
8- Mickey campe?n
9- Mickey hace proezas
10- Mickey y los gitanos
11- Mickey en peligro
12- Mickey detective
13- Mickey y el tesoro
14- Mickey y los salvajes
15- Mickey en el Far West
16- Mickey Matamoros y Corre-Corre

Best wishes
Carlos
ZeldasTriforce
I sent this email yesterday and I didn't get a post acknowledgement or
anything. So I'm sending it a second time, hopefully it won't turn out to be a
double post.

To Rodney:

I only got into Disney comics during the Disney Comics(1990-93) era. My only
first-hand expreience(comics I've bought myself when they appeared for the
first time) is with Disney Comics and Gladstone Series II. The only Series I
comics I've ever had were bought used in comic shops, in which a majority of them
are yellowed in the way I described. So I guess I had the luck of being comics
that weren't stored properly(though the covers and pages outside of yellowing
are great).

Personally, except for the few comics(Series 1, a few others) I've bought
that were already? bagged/boarded, I've just put my Disney comics in small stacks
in plastic grocery bags! They've all stayed nice and white/great condition
overall. I guess the Don Rosa way of comics storage is the best way!

But I've thought of buying bags/boards for the rest of my comics. So you
suggest changing them every few years? What happens to the boards/bags that hurts
the comics?
-------------------------

Oh, a small comment about the upcoming DDA. Apparently it will be called #1?
I feel sorry for a Disney comics newbie just getting into DDA collecting. You
have DDA #1 from the Gladstone era. Then DDA #1 for the Disney Comics era.
Then Series 2 begins with it's own numbering continuing from Series 1. Now,
here's a third DDA #1. Has Disney comics decided to follow Marvel? ;)

Also it seems that the formerly titled Gemstone comics 'Donald Duck and
Friends' has now become Donald Duck? Yet it'll still have a supporting Mickey
story? If that's so, the DD&Friends moniker would have seemed a better fit with
'Mickey Mouse and Friends', which is doing the opposite, except with Mickey at
the forefront.

Derek Smith
Timo Ronkainen
Disney is actually trying to promote and make old Mickey more famous as
animation and comic book character:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A48165-2003Jul25.html

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Lars Jensen
Rich Bellacera wrote:

> I always envisioned a much bigger tapestry of adventure possibility
> for Moby.

I agree 100%.

> I wouldn't want Gemstone to take the same approach Marvel is, but
> maybe a happy balance of "young" or "contemporary" appeal with that of
> "old" or "nostaligia" appeal.

I agree again. The tough thing is, of course, to find that balance.

Other than that, you write that you *have* read (most of) those
subseries you mentioned in your earlier posting -- and you like them!
Well, you got me! In that case, obviously you *would* want to see as
much of it as possible in the Gemstone books. I still disagree regarding
the quality of some of this material, but as you write: "Everything is
subject to personal taste or preferences".

And I'm envious of your collection.

Lars
Anders Christian Sivebæk
Hi all
Fabio

> I will not pay 8 fucking dollars for Lil' Bad Wolf stories or Baby
disney...
Now do mind your langauge, my friend :-)
Who says you'll only get those charetcers - in the oppinion I've evolved in
the
past years varriation menas a lot. I don't mind seeing the wolves and pigs,
or brer rabbit, or any charecter i haven't seen for long, as long as these
are combined
with good stories with the charecters we know the most, and love.
Baby disney, it's a long time since I saw them last - I guess it was mostly
short gag stories
and silly posters I've seen, but if some artists (and I just have a slight
feeling my
favorite artist wont do it) could make them an interesting group of
charecters,
actually giving a reason that these figures knew eachother back then, then
it would be fun.
But then rather the Donny duck stories - they aren't all that bad, to say it
in my dialect (ironic)
some have been quite funny - the indicator of goodness on many duck comics.

> I want Don Rosa and Carl Barks comics. Is too expensive stuff for that
> nonsense. If is I'll have for my money, I'll cut my subscription...
You can't only have Barks and Rosa - if they print all the Rosas in
on-each-other-following issues,
they they would have to start reprinting to fast, and barks will only be
reprinting.
Let's *also* see some of the new good artists, and the older classics - in a
good mix.

That's what I want, that's what I will pay for.

With the wishes you have, in all due respect you should have subsribed to
the Picsou in certain
periods of it's recent past, where french friends of mine has called it
Barks, Rosa and Co.(rephrasing)

Yours ac
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Here's a link to an extensive review of Donald Ault's book
"Carl Barks Conversations":

http://www.eclectica.org/v7n3/mcgowin_barks.html

"Carl Barks Conversations" is published by University Press of
Mississippi (2003). It contains 238 pages. There's a hardback
and a paperback edition. It's also for sale via internet.

The review is written by Kevin McGowin. I haven't fully read it yet.
I just wanted to let you know the link, so you don't have to wait
for me to read it yourself.

--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
SANTIAGO, 16-07-2003:

> ["Beat it, you clammy ragbag! What's the idea?"]
> This is what Donald said in such a situation I would die of fear!

LARRY GIVER, 18-07-2003:

> A few days ago I found something surprising that I hadn't taken
> notice of before. Who knows which story this Barks quote is from:
> :You can't do this to us! We're junior members of the bear cub
> rangers!"

As far as I know, these two Barks quotes have not been discovered so far.
Santiago and Larry, can you give an additional hint?

I would like to recommend that people who suggest a quote, also take
care of keeping that quote alive until it's guessed. By giving hints,
for example.

--- Dani?l
Lars Jensen
Olaf wrote:

> Well, can't they just fire all those unknown amateurs such as William
> van Horn, Lars Jensen

I have three responses to this:

1. Don't give them any tempting ideas.
2. I'm mentioned along with William Van Horn? Wow, I'm honored.
3. I think all Gemstone comics should consist of nothing but stories
written or drawn by Olaf Solstrand. If they ever run out of new
material, they can just reprint some of his old stuff.

Only joking, obviously.

Lars
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