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Michiel Prior
Daniƫl van Eijmeren:

> This week, an extra Donald Duck Extra has been published in
> The Netherlands. Issue number is "7 1/2".

I've bought it last thursday and I can say it's a very NICE
issue. Let's see if we're able to identify the contents a
little bit further.

> D 2002-033 - 26 pages - US - Dream of a Lifetime (Rosa)

This certainly is a very fine story. I like it MUCH better
than 'Gyro's first invention', which was too 'explainative'.
Notice that the Dutch editors utterly failed to comprehend
Don's 'fool-proof system' and published the extra recap-page
as well. Well, maybe we should regard it as a BONUS-page. :)

> H 9879 - 1 page - DD - special place for smokers in
> restaurant (Milton?)

It doesn't look like Milton to me. Could this gag've been
drawn by ROB KLEIN? (The artwork even looks a bit Strobl-ish.)

> D 2001-135 - 14 pages - DD- potion that weakens enemies
> (Rota?)

This is certainly a Rota story. (Andold 'Wild Duck') His Dutch
name is 'McWild McDuck', which looks a bit silly. Is Andold
really a SCOTTISH warrior? The pirates in this story look much
more Scottish (wearing kilts).

> D 7096 - 9 pages - BB - ring in chocolate box (...)

As far as I can see, with my very limited experience in
identifying Duck art, this is a story by Daniel Branca.
Am I correct?

> H 94147 - 1 page - DD - tree in garden (...)?

> D 2001-160 - 12 pages - DD - winner in turkey town

A Vicar story. Donald starts a new life as a 'winner' in a
town inhabited by turkeys.
This 'alternate Duckburg' was founded by Jacobus Krul, the
turkey counterpart of Cornelis Prul. :)

> RPDD 2503 - 1 page - US - greengrocer is an old class mate

This must be Toby Strobl.

> BTW. "Dream of a Lifetime" is published in the two-part
> version. There seem to be two typo's in the story. On page
> 20, Donald says "Donald" to the young Scrooge. On page 25,
> Gyro says "mnee Duck" instead of "meneer Duck".

On page 6: "als iemand een vraagT stelt". But apart from those
three typo's, this story was very WELL-EDITED. I can see that
some balloons were enlarged, but it's done very beautifully,
without 'double panel-lines'. (Unlike in 'Caballeros',
'Crusader Kings', 'Gyro's 1st'.)
The recap-page may be a bit annoying, but its text is adapted
to one-part publication. (It doesn't read "In the previous
episode:", but something like "Do you still understand this a
little bit? Yes, you do... a LITTLE bit.") The translator has
at least tried to give this strange page a logical position in
the storytelling (explanation).

Michiel Prior.
Michiel Prior
DANIEL VAN EIJMEREN:

>Thisweek,anextraDonaldDuckExtrahasbeenpublishedin
>TheNetherlands.Issuenumberis71/2.

I'veboughtitlastThursdayandIcansayit'saveryNICE
issue.Let'sseeifwe'reabletoidentifythecontentsa
littlebitfurther.

>D2002-033-26pages-US-DreamofaLifetime(Rosa)

Thiscertainlyisaveryfinestory.IlikeitMUCHbetter
than'Gyro'sfirstinvention',whichwastoo'explanative'.
NoticethattheDutcheditorsutterlyfailedtocomprehend
Don's'fool-proofsystem'andpublishedtheextrarecap-page
aswell.Well,maybeweshouldregarditasaBONUS-page. :)

>H9879-1page-DD-specialplaceforsmokersin
>restaurant(Milton?)

It doesn'tlooklikeMiltontome.Couldthisgag'vebeen
drawnbyROBKLEIN?(TheartworkevenlooksabitStrobl-ish.)

>D2001-135-14pages-DD-potionthatweakensenemies
(Rota?)

ThisiscertainlyaRotastory.(Andold'WildDuck')HisDutch
nameis'McWildMcDuck',whichlooksabitsilly.IsAndold
reallyaSCOTTISHwarrior?Thepiratesinthisstorylookmuch
moreScottish(wearingkilts).

>D7096-9pages-BB-ringinchocolatebox

AsfarasIcansee,withmyverylimitedexperiencein
identifyingDuckart,thisisastorybyDanielBranca.
AmIcorrect?

>H94147-1page-DD-treeingarden(...)?

>D2001-160-12pages-DD-winnerinturkeytown(...)

AVicarstory.Donaldstartsanewlifeasa'winner'ina
towninhabitedbyturkeys.
This'alternateDuckburg'wasfoundedbyJacobusKrul,the
turkeycounterpartofCornelisPrul.

>RPDD2503-1page-US-greengrocerisanoldclassmate

ThismustbeTobyStrobl.

>BTW.DreamofaLifetime ispublishedinthetwo-
>partversion.Thereseemtobetwotypo'sinthestory.On
>page 20,Donaldsays"Donald"
>totheyoungScrooge.Onpage25,
>Gyrosays"mneeDuck"insteadof"meneerDuck".

Onpage6:"alsiemandeenvraagTstelt".Butapartfromthose
threetypo's,thisstorywasveryWELL-EDITED.Icanseethat
someballoonswereenlarged,butit'sdoneverybeautifully,
without'doublepanel-lines'.(Unlikein'Caballeros',
'CrusaderKings','Gyro's1st'.)
Therecap-pagemaybeabitannoying,butitstextisadapted
toone-partpublication.(Itdoesn'tread"Intheprevious
episode:" butsomethinglike"Doyoustillunderstandthisa
littlebit?Yes,youdo...aLITTLEbit.")Thetranslatorhas
atleasttriedtogivethisstrangepagealogicalpositionin
thestorytelling(explanation).

Michiel Prior.

P.S.: I hope this message will arrive without any annoying HTML-
thingamajigs, or else my mood towards my mailing-programme will be close
to murderous.
M.J. Prior
DANIEL VAN EIJMEREN:

>This week, an extra Donald Duck Extra has been published >in The Netherlands. Issue number is 7 1/2.

I've bought it last Thursday and I can say it's a very
NICE
issue. Let's see if we're able to identify the contents a
little bit further.

>D 2002-033 - 26 pages - US - Dream of a Lifetime (Rosa)

This certainly is a very fine story. I like it MUCH better
than 'Gyro's first invention', which was too
'explanative'.
Notice that the Dutch editors utterly failed to comprehend
Don's 'fool-proof system' and published the extra
recap-page
as well. Well, maybe we should regard it as a BONUS-page.
:)

>H 9879 - 1 page - DD - special place for smokers in
>restaurant (Milton?)

It doesn't look like Milton to me. Could this gag've been
drawn by ROB KLEIN? (The artwork even looks a bit
Strobl-ish.)

>D 2001-135 - 14 pages - DD - potion that weakens enemies
(Rota?)

This is certainly a Rota story. (Andold 'Wild Duck') His
Dutch
name is 'McWild McDuck', which looks a bit silly. Is
Andold
really a SCOTTISH warrior? The pirates in this story look
much more Scottish (wearing kilts).

>D 7096 - 9 pages - BB - ring in chocolate box

As far as I can see, with my very limited experience in
identifying Duck-art, this is a story by Daniel Branca.
Am I correct?

>H 94147 - 1 page - DD - tree in garden (...)?

>D 2001-160 - 12 pages - DD - winner in turkeytown (...)

A Vicar story. Donald starts a new life as a 'winner' in a
town inhabited by turkeys.
This 'alternate Duckburg' was founded by Jacobus Krul, the
turkey counterpart of Cornelis Prul (C.Coot).

> RPDD 2503 - 1 page - US - greengrocer is an old classmate

This must be Toby Strobl.

>BTW. Dream of a Lifetime is published in the two-
>part version. There seem to be two typo's in the story. On
>page 20, Donald says "Donald"
>to young Scrooge. On page 25,
>Gyro says "mnee Duck" instead of "meneerDuck".

On page 6: "als iemand een vraagT stelt". But apart from
those three typo's, this story is very WELL-EDITED. I can
see that some balloons were enlarged, but it's done very
beautifully, without 'double panel-lines'. (Unlike in
'Caballeros', 'Crusader Kings', 'Gyro's 1st'.)

The recap-page may be a bit annoying, but its text is
adapted to one-part publication. (It doesn't read "In the
previous episode:" but something like "Do you still
understand this a little bit? Yes, of course you do... a
LITTLE bit.")
The translator has at least tried to give this strange
page a logical position in the storytelling (explanation).

Michiel Prior.

P.S.: I've strangled my computer. You'll get this message
by snail-mail.
Sgarciab
Stefan Persson:

>>From: dcml <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>>To: reimersholme at hotmail.com
>>Subject: A good tool
>>Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2003 00:41:01 -0700
>>
>>Hi,This is a good tool
>>I hope you would enjoy it.
>
>Er, what kind of tool?

Stefan, looks as if you've received a virus from a false email direction
(just observe that the FROM field actually is "
dcml-bounces at stp.ling.uu.se", and not "dcml at stp.ling.uu.se").

That message wasn't posted to the list (It isn't logged into the list
archives) and moreover, that is the kind of message usually comes with
virus emails.

I sincerely warn all of you not to open ANY executable attachment from an
email message (as most of you already know), though the origin seems to be
known and reliable.

Santiago.
Daniel Van Eijmeren
According to Michael Barrier's "Carl Barks and the Art of the Comic
Book" (page 168), the title of Barks' WDC 45 story is "This Month's
Thriller - Rival Boatmen". The reprint in The Carl Barks Library
only contains "Rival Boatmen".

Has the text "This Month's Thriller" been dropped from the reprint?
If so, does someone have a scan of the original publication of the
opening page?

--- Dani?l
Lgiver
Daniel asked if the Matterhorn at Disneyland park in Anaheim, California
had a "toboggan" attraction. Indeed, the Matterhorn there is a
roller-coaster
ride. The tracks go around the mountain and through tunnels. There are
many small segments that each hold about 4 riders, whereas many
roller-coasters have only one long "train" for about 30 riders. Thus, each
section for 4 riders on the Matterhorn roller-coaster is probably called
a "toboggan", although I'm not sure if that's a commonly used term there.
Best wishes, Larry Giver.
Sander D.
>D 2002-033 - 26 pages - US - Dream of a Lifetime (Rosa)

Wow! Very nice they finally published it! I really like the Danish colouring
this time. I got the French version some weeks ago, and I think I even like
this colouring better (what is exceptional).

>>H 9879 - 1 page - DD - special place for smokers in restaurant (Milton?)
>It doesn't look like Milton to me. Could this gag've been
>drawn by ROB KLEIN? (The artwork even looks a bit Strobl-ish.)

For this kind of problems we have the (again online!) COA. The artist is
Sander Gulien and the writer is Tom Bouden (I already thought it'd be Gulien
or Milton).

>>D 2001-135 - 14 pages - DD - potion that weakens enemies (Rota?)
>This is certainly a Rota story. (Andold 'Wild Duck') His Dutch
>name is 'McWild McDuck', which looks a bit silly. Is Andold
>really a SCOTTISH warrior? The pirates in this story look much more
>Scottish (wearing kilts).

Wasn't his name in Holland 'McDuck' first?

>>D 7096 - 9 pages - BB - ring in chocolate box
>As far as I can see, with my very limited experience in
>identifying Duck-art, this is a story by Daniel Branca.
>Am I correct?

Yup, it's Branca. BTW, I started to like his "Barks-60's" drawing style
(first I didn't).

>H 94147 - 1 page - DD - tree in garden (...)?

Story: Jan Kruse; Art: 'Prodima'

>>BTW. Dream of a Lifetime is published in the two-
>>part version. There seem to be two typo's in the story. On page 20, Donald
>>says "Donald" to young Scrooge. On page 25, Gyro says "mnee Duck" instead
>>of "meneerDuck".
>On page 6: "als iemand een vraagT stelt".

On page 26, Goldie says "Dagobert" without "?" (it fell out of the balloon).
And on page 1, they didn't look at their first translation of the text said
by the two 'fireman' in 'Vigilante of the Pizen Bluff': they said "Wacht!
Het water is bevroren! - Geen zorgen! De DRUK is hoog genoeg!" instead of
"Wacht! De SLANG is bevroren! - De WATERDRUK verhelpt dat wel!".

I liked the Extra Donald Duck Extra, but I don't like it that I had to buy
it in the shop, having a subscription.

Sander

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Shad Z.
Disney Adventures Volume 13, number 6 (August 2003)

This is probably the last time I will send this to the DCML, since us Americans are now getting lots of Disney comics goodness from Gemstone. Instead, I will learn how to be a contributor to INDUCKS and send Disney Adventures info directly there....

Matt Feazell's contents page doodlings ("Dizzy Adventures") are given story code JZ749

1) Finding Nemo: "A Lucky Move!", JZ750, 2 pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Fabricio Grellet and Magic Eye Studios.
Characters include Nemo and Squirt.

2) Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl: "Revenge of the Pirates!", JZ751, 10 pages.
Story by Michael Stewart. Pencils by Steven Butler. Inks by Jim Amash.
Characters include Captian Jack Sparrow, Cotton (and his parrot), Gibbs, Anamaria, Will Turner and Elizabeth Swan.
NOTE: If you have watched the movie's lengthy credits, you might have noticed that all the pirates in the movie (the ones on Sparrow's crew and the undead ones on Barbarosa's crew) have names. But in the movie proper, few of the pirates are called by name. If I could match the names with faces, there would be many more named characters in the list above.

3) Lizzie McGuire: "Summer Camp Blues!", JZ752, 1 page.
Story by John Green. No art credits.
Characters include Lizzie McGuire's cartoon alter-ego.

4) Lilo & Stich: "A Heavy Problem!", JZ753, 1 page.
Story by Michael Stewart. Art by Giovanni Rigano.
Characters include Lilo and Stich.

5) Kim Possible: "Rufus' Bad Day!", JZ754, 3 pages.
Story by Steve Behling. Art by Fabricio Grellet and Magic Eye Studios.
Characters include Kim, Ron and Rufus. Dr. Drakken's image appears on a video screen, but it later is revealed that the image was faked and Dr. Drakken doesn't actually appear in the story.

6) The Last Laugh: "Signs Your Camp Counselor Is Really Bigfoot!", JZ455, 1 page.
Written by John Green. Art by Kevin Rechin.

Shad Z. ^Q^
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Carey Furlong
> > OLIVIER, 11-06-2001
>
> About "Mastering the Matterhorn", OS 1025:
>
> > "Matterhorn" is indeed a feature of the original [Disneyland] park
> > in Anaheim, but this Matterhorn is the real mountain: the story does
> > not take place in the park; the latter only inspired Barks this
> > exotic locale.
>
> Danikl wrote:
>
> In panel 1.5, Donald says that somebody else must be using the toboggan.
> Could the toboggan (or "Toboggan"?) be a reference to Disneyland?
> Is (or was) it an attraction, for example?

Yes, this is a reference to the Bobsled ride in Disneyland, which opened on
June 14th, 1959, the same year the story was published. When Barks wrote
"Mastering the Matterhorn" the ride was not yet open, and details about it
were obviously sketchy at best. So, Barks apparently improvised and assumed
the ride was about toboggans (in this case one toboggan -- how could he know
different?). As it turned out, the Bobsleds ride more closely resembled a
customized roller coaster.

Carey Furlong
Dana Point, California
Gary Leach
Derek Smith wrote:

> I thought you might be interested in the sales stats for WDC 634 and
> US 319
> for June[...]
>
> 193. Uncle Scrooge 319 (8,215)
> 217. Walt Disney's Comics And Stories 634 (4,718)
> http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=105988
>
> All in all, not too bad considering the price they were being sold for.

The figure for Uncle Scrooge 319 is roughly on target concerning
initial orders. However, the one cited by Newsarama for Walt Disney's
Comics and Stories 634 falls considerably short of the actual figure -
in fact, WDC&S has done about as well as US in initial orders. And
reorders.

That said, I agree with Derek: not too bad.

We managed to get advanced copies of Donald Duck Adventures #1 (our
first "pocket book") just in time to display them at this year's San
Diego Comic-Con. The response was very positive - most folks seemed to
be of the opinion that it was about time for something like this.
They're shipping this Friday, the 25th, so we'll soon see.

Gary
ZeldasTriforce
Well, it's nice to know that WDC isn't nearly as far behind US as those order
figures indicated. My local shop only gets new comics in on Thursdays, so
I'll guess I'll have to wait until late next week for DDA.

Having just today stopped by the shop and getting a bunch of back issues of
Disney comics, plus the WDC 634(more on that later), I've noticed something
about the paper that's been used in Disney comics over the years. When you
compare a Gladstone Series 1 comic to a Disney Comic(1990-93) or a Gladstone Series
2 comic, the paper in the Series 1 comic is always very yellowed. Even when
comparing the earliest Disney Comics to Series 1, the DC comic is always about
as good looking as when it was made, whereas Series 1 comics have turned from
white to yellow(similiar to what happens to paper used for newspapers, but not
quite as bad). Is this because DC/Gladstone had switched to a higher grade of
paper? That would be my guess comparing Series 1 to DC, but it would be nice
to know if that actually was the case.

Just first impressions of WDC 634: It seems about as good as US 319, which is
good indeed. Especially the Van Horn story and Gilbert/Vicar's Gladstone
story.

Derek Smith
Olaf Solstrand
I was just thinking... Is Pintail Duck, from "Back to Long Ago!" (W US
16-02), in any way related to the Duck-family we know?

According to Don Rosa's Duck family tree, he is - but the story he comes
from, "Back to Long Ago!", does not state that at all. It's just saying that
Donald is a reincarnation of Pintail.

And... well, this is my interpretion only, but when seeing Pintail I got a
feeling that this man never had children...

Matey McDuck being an ancestor of Scrooge could be reasonable, as McDuck is
a not that regular name - but, as the weeklies keep telling us, "'Duck' is
as regular in Duckburg as 'Hansen' is in Norway". Both Daisy and Moby are
great examples for that.

I'm a little confused that he even IS in the Duck family tree, as we know
nothing about what lies inbetween him and Humperdink. Very many misinterpet
this family tree and believes that Humperdink is Pintail's son (which is
quite impossible, concidering that Pintail died in 1564). Yes, he looks a
lot like Donald. But so does Daisy. And his last name is Duck. But that's a
very regular name... Well, but I guess that's up to Don Rosa.

Still, I want others to tell me what you think. Pintail - is he an ancestor
of Donald, or just a nobody from the 16th century with Donald's soul in him?

Best,
Olaf the Blue
First published in a Disney Comic exactly five years (on the day) after
Norway beat Brazil in the world championship in soccer.
Stefan Persson
>From: sgarciab at soluziona.com
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Re: A good tool (WARNING)
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:33:04 +0200

>I sincerely warn all of you not to open ANY executable attachment from an
>email message (as most of you already know), though the origin seems to be
>known and reliable.

Er, yes, I didn't notice the big size of the mail... Luckily, I'm using
Linux, so the virus should not infect my computer.

Stefan

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Rich Bellacera
Gary (or anyone else who might be able to answer this):

How much of a "mix" can we expect from future issues of Gemstone Disney comics?
What I mean is, I know we will be getting the standard stories featuring Mickey,
Donald and Uncle Scrooge, and it's been said that others will feature Li'l Bad
Wolf, Grandma Duck and Huey, Dewey & Louie. These are great and I look forward to
them, indeed, but will we see OTHER Disney stories such as the Moby Duck "Bay
Chronicles," the Clarabelle Reporter stories, April, May & June stories, and some
of the even more obscure or never reprinted (in the USA) Panchito, Ellsworth and
Joe Carioca newspaper strips? Maybe even some of the French "Li'l Bad Wolf" with
Meana & Marie Loupe, "Young" Donny Duck, Morty & Ferdie or Disney Babies stories?

Will the HDL stories simply be reprints or old US Woodchuck stories or can we
expect some of those which ran in the Italian "Giovani Marmotte" series?

I'm really excited to know that we can expect some of the great Romano Scarpa
stuff here, too!

Thanks,

Rich Bellacera

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Goofy313g
>>>Pintail - is he an ancestor
>>>of Donald, or just a nobody from the 16th century with Donald's soul in him?
Only an ancestor of Donald could bear Donald's soul :-)

The story doesn't state this, you're free to think what you want (like for the arab incarnations of Donald, Scrooge, and the nephews in "King Scrooge the First", the story drawn by strobl and written by Barks)

>>>And... well, this is my interpretion only, but when seeing Pintail I got a
>>>feeling that this man never had children...
Ancestor doesn't mean direct ancestor, it could be Humperdink's great-great-great-...-great-uncle

>>>as the weeklies keep telling us, "'Duck' is
>>>as regular in Duckburg as 'Hansen' is in Norway". Both Daisy and Moby are
>>>great examples for that.
This is Don Rosa's point of view, but some people will tell you that Daisy and Moby are related to the Ducks we know, but we've talked about this more than enough here :-)
(btw, it's stated in some books and some family trees that Daisy, April, May, June and Drusilla are of Donald's family, and Moby is told to be Donald's cousin in the tvshow pacifically peeking)

>>>I'm a little confused that he even IS in the Duck family tree, as we know
>>>nothing about what lies inbetween him and Humperdink.
That's just the way Don drew it, except for Cornelius, whom he didn't link to Clinton for aesthetic reasons... Seafoam isn't told to be Dingus' father, neither it's told he is his direct ancestor, and Pintail was the only possible ancestor of the Ducks in all of Barks' story (well, I'm just thinking : what about general Stinewall Duck? :-))

Well, i guess it's a matter of interpretation of YOUR Duck universe... But it's still funny to compare these universes... but we've already talked too much about universes too, here
Gilles Maurice
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/
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