> > -- Did anyone recognize the verse from my signature? It was the chorus
from
> > Alanis Morrisette's "Ironic".
>
> You also assume that people would know who Alanis Morrisette is...
>
Sure, she's related to Alan Moore... don't?
FABIO
(only joking, I know who Alanis is)
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Topic: 200307
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Fabio Blanco
Gemstone's mix (practically off-topic: An apology)
Message 346 -
2003-07-31 at 09:53:30
Goofy313g
Jiminy Cricket's Family Tree
Message 347 -
2003-07-31 at 16:47:14
Thanks a lot, Mateusz, for these informations.
The tree of JIminy Cricket is great, even if it doesn't seem to be based on
facts, is really nice.
If we take a look at Jiminy's ancestor's clothes, we can guess that he is of
Slavic origins. As these countries are somehow suffering of poverty, maybe we
can understand why Jiminy is poor in his first appearance (in the beginning of
"Pinocchio", before he begins an official conscience).
About Jiminy's relatives...
I know at least four of them:
- Wibur the grasshopper from the cartoon "Goofy ad Wilbur" : it's not stated
in that cartoon that wilbur is a relative of Jiminy, but in the tv show " walt
disney presents: on vacation with micky mouse and friends", which features
this short, Jiminy is told that Goofy is on holiday with his nephew Wilbur...
- Charlie Cricket & son,
- Junior
these three characters are from rich bellacerra's hoozoo pages
http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/jiminy.html
Rich, could you enlight us on these characters?
Gilles
The tree of JIminy Cricket is great, even if it doesn't seem to be based on
facts, is really nice.
If we take a look at Jiminy's ancestor's clothes, we can guess that he is of
Slavic origins. As these countries are somehow suffering of poverty, maybe we
can understand why Jiminy is poor in his first appearance (in the beginning of
"Pinocchio", before he begins an official conscience).
About Jiminy's relatives...
I know at least four of them:
- Wibur the grasshopper from the cartoon "Goofy ad Wilbur" : it's not stated
in that cartoon that wilbur is a relative of Jiminy, but in the tv show " walt
disney presents: on vacation with micky mouse and friends", which features
this short, Jiminy is told that Goofy is on holiday with his nephew Wilbur...
- Charlie Cricket & son,
- Junior
these three characters are from rich bellacerra's hoozoo pages
http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/jiminy.html
Rich, could you enlight us on these characters?
Gilles
Goofy313g
Jiminy's family tree, wilbur the grashoper
Message 348 -
2003-07-31 at 18:41:57
Hi!
is it possible to have the exact references for these books (authors, date,
drawers, etc)
thanks
about Wilbur the grasshoper being jiminy's nephew, we can imagine that Jiminy
is his mother's brother, and that maybe his father or his father's father
could be the grasshoper from the silly symphony "the grasshoper and the ants"...
as i think this character was mentionned in a videoclip about jiminy's
evolution...
Gilles
is it possible to have the exact references for these books (authors, date,
drawers, etc)
thanks
about Wilbur the grasshoper being jiminy's nephew, we can imagine that Jiminy
is his mother's brother, and that maybe his father or his father's father
could be the grasshoper from the silly symphony "the grasshoper and the ants"...
as i think this character was mentionned in a videoclip about jiminy's
evolution...
Gilles
Fabio Blanco
Jiminy Cricket's Family Tree
Message 349 -
2003-07-31 at 18:43:54
MMmmm... I keep thinking Jiminy Cricket is a character from a book by Carlo Collodi. A book adapted by some animators in a Disney studio, but not a Disney invention...
fabio
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From: Goofy313g at aol.com
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: Jiminy Cricket's Family Tree
Thanks a lot, Mateusz, for these informations.
The tree of JIminy Cricket is great, even if it doesn't seem to be based on facts, is really nice.
If we take a look at Jiminy's ancestor's clothes, we can guess that he is of Slavic origins. As these countries are somehow suffering of poverty, maybe we can understand why Jiminy is poor in his first appearance (in the beginning of "Pinocchio", before he begins an official conscience).
About Jiminy's relatives...
I know at least four of them:
- Wibur the grasshopper from the cartoon "Goofy ad Wilbur" : it's not stated in that cartoon that wilbur is a relative of Jiminy, but in the tv show " walt disney presents: on vacation with micky mouse and friends", which features this short, Jiminy is told that Goofy is on holiday with his nephew Wilbur...
- Charlie Cricket & son,
- Junior
these three characters are from rich bellacerra's hoozoo pages
http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/jiminy.html
Rich, could you enlight us on these characters?
Gilles
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----- Original Message -----
From: Goofy313g at aol.com
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2003 10:47 AM
Subject: Jiminy Cricket's Family Tree
Thanks a lot, Mateusz, for these informations.
The tree of JIminy Cricket is great, even if it doesn't seem to be based on facts, is really nice.
If we take a look at Jiminy's ancestor's clothes, we can guess that he is of Slavic origins. As these countries are somehow suffering of poverty, maybe we can understand why Jiminy is poor in his first appearance (in the beginning of "Pinocchio", before he begins an official conscience).
About Jiminy's relatives...
I know at least four of them:
- Wibur the grasshopper from the cartoon "Goofy ad Wilbur" : it's not stated in that cartoon that wilbur is a relative of Jiminy, but in the tv show " walt disney presents: on vacation with micky mouse and friends", which features this short, Jiminy is told that Goofy is on holiday with his nephew Wilbur...
- Charlie Cricket & son,
- Junior
these three characters are from rich bellacerra's hoozoo pages
http://users.cwnet.com/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/jiminy.html
Rich, could you enlight us on these characters?
Gilles
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Rich Bellacera
Jiminy Cricket's Family Tree
Message 350 -
2003-07-31 at 19:39:38
Fabio Blanco said:
> MMmmm... I keep thinking Jiminy Cricket is a character from a
> book by Carlo Collodi. A book adapted by some animators in a
> Disney studio, but not a Disney invention...
Actually, in the classic Collodi story, the cricket is called
either "Mr. Cricket" or the "Talking Cricket" and he is killed
by Pinocchio. Jiminy Cricket, while based on the same character
is specific to the "Disney" version of the story and thus a
Disney character. I don't know anything about licensing fees
and such that Disney may need to pay to the Collodi family or
it's benefactors, like it does for the Milne and Burroughs families
for such adaptations as Pooh and Tarzan, but in the case of Disney
Family Tress it probably doesn't matter anyhow. The character of
Jiminy Cricket, mostly through comics, but also through Disney
films, has moved far beyond his roots in Pinocchio.
Like Figaro, a character actually created by Disney, the cat is
now living with Minnie and has had a few of his very own cartoons
as well. In fact both Figaro and Cleo are now considered part of
Minnie's supporting cast (though people obviously still recall they
began as Gepetto's pets).
Jiminy went on to become the spokesbug for many of Disney's health
films, especially those shown on the Mickey Mouse Club. He also
narrated the first half of the film FUN AND FANCY FREE (where Figaro
can also be seen).
Jiminy has appeared in many comics over the years as well. He seems
to exist in the same world as Bucky Bug and Bootle Beetle.
Hence, Jiminy Cricket is fully integrated into the Disney universe.
Oh, and Gilles, as for his cousins Charlie Cricket and Charlie's son,
Junior Cricket, all I recall at this time is they appeared, I believe,
in some old WDC&S issues. If I can, I will attempt to find specific
issues. I also have the book with the Jiminy Cricket family tree,
but it only uses English.
-Rich Bellacera
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> MMmmm... I keep thinking Jiminy Cricket is a character from a
> book by Carlo Collodi. A book adapted by some animators in a
> Disney studio, but not a Disney invention...
Actually, in the classic Collodi story, the cricket is called
either "Mr. Cricket" or the "Talking Cricket" and he is killed
by Pinocchio. Jiminy Cricket, while based on the same character
is specific to the "Disney" version of the story and thus a
Disney character. I don't know anything about licensing fees
and such that Disney may need to pay to the Collodi family or
it's benefactors, like it does for the Milne and Burroughs families
for such adaptations as Pooh and Tarzan, but in the case of Disney
Family Tress it probably doesn't matter anyhow. The character of
Jiminy Cricket, mostly through comics, but also through Disney
films, has moved far beyond his roots in Pinocchio.
Like Figaro, a character actually created by Disney, the cat is
now living with Minnie and has had a few of his very own cartoons
as well. In fact both Figaro and Cleo are now considered part of
Minnie's supporting cast (though people obviously still recall they
began as Gepetto's pets).
Jiminy went on to become the spokesbug for many of Disney's health
films, especially those shown on the Mickey Mouse Club. He also
narrated the first half of the film FUN AND FANCY FREE (where Figaro
can also be seen).
Jiminy has appeared in many comics over the years as well. He seems
to exist in the same world as Bucky Bug and Bootle Beetle.
Hence, Jiminy Cricket is fully integrated into the Disney universe.
Oh, and Gilles, as for his cousins Charlie Cricket and Charlie's son,
Junior Cricket, all I recall at this time is they appeared, I believe,
in some old WDC&S issues. If I can, I will attempt to find specific
issues. I also have the book with the Jiminy Cricket family tree,
but it only uses English.
-Rich Bellacera
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Rich Bellacera
Jiminy Cricket's Family Tree
Message 351 -
2003-07-31 at 19:39:39
Fabio Blanco said:
> MMmmm... I keep thinking Jiminy Cricket is a character from a
> book by Carlo Collodi. A book adapted by some animators in a
> Disney studio, but not a Disney invention...
Actually, in the classic Collodi story, the cricket is called
either "Mr. Cricket" or the "Talking Cricket" and he is killed
by Pinocchio. Jiminy Cricket, while based on the same character
is specific to the "Disney" version of the story and thus a
Disney character. I don't know anything about licensing fees
and such that Disney may need to pay to the Collodi family or
it's benefactors, like it does for the Milne and Burroughs families
for such adaptations as Pooh and Tarzan, but in the case of Disney
Family Tress it probably doesn't matter anyhow. The character of
Jiminy Cricket, mostly through comics, but also through Disney
films, has moved far beyond his roots in Pinocchio.
Like Figaro, a character actually created by Disney, the cat is
now living with Minnie and has had a few of his very own cartoons
as well. In fact both Figaro and Cleo are now considered part of
Minnie's supporting cast (though people obviously still recall they
began as Gepetto's pets).
Jiminy went on to become the spokesbug for many of Disney's health
films, especially those shown on the Mickey Mouse Club. He also
narrated the first half of the film FUN AND FANCY FREE (where Figaro
can also be seen).
Jiminy has appeared in many comics over the years as well. He seems
to exist in the same world as Bucky Bug and Bootle Beetle.
Hence, Jiminy Cricket is fully integrated into the Disney universe.
Oh, and Gilles, as for his cousins Charlie Cricket and Charlie's son,
Junior Cricket, all I recall at this time is they appeared, I believe,
in some old WDC&S issues. If I can, I will attempt to find specific
issues. I also have the book with the Jiminy Cricket family tree,
but it only uses English.
-Rich Bellacera
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> MMmmm... I keep thinking Jiminy Cricket is a character from a
> book by Carlo Collodi. A book adapted by some animators in a
> Disney studio, but not a Disney invention...
Actually, in the classic Collodi story, the cricket is called
either "Mr. Cricket" or the "Talking Cricket" and he is killed
by Pinocchio. Jiminy Cricket, while based on the same character
is specific to the "Disney" version of the story and thus a
Disney character. I don't know anything about licensing fees
and such that Disney may need to pay to the Collodi family or
it's benefactors, like it does for the Milne and Burroughs families
for such adaptations as Pooh and Tarzan, but in the case of Disney
Family Tress it probably doesn't matter anyhow. The character of
Jiminy Cricket, mostly through comics, but also through Disney
films, has moved far beyond his roots in Pinocchio.
Like Figaro, a character actually created by Disney, the cat is
now living with Minnie and has had a few of his very own cartoons
as well. In fact both Figaro and Cleo are now considered part of
Minnie's supporting cast (though people obviously still recall they
began as Gepetto's pets).
Jiminy went on to become the spokesbug for many of Disney's health
films, especially those shown on the Mickey Mouse Club. He also
narrated the first half of the film FUN AND FANCY FREE (where Figaro
can also be seen).
Jiminy has appeared in many comics over the years as well. He seems
to exist in the same world as Bucky Bug and Bootle Beetle.
Hence, Jiminy Cricket is fully integrated into the Disney universe.
Oh, and Gilles, as for his cousins Charlie Cricket and Charlie's son,
Junior Cricket, all I recall at this time is they appeared, I believe,
in some old WDC&S issues. If I can, I will attempt to find specific
issues. I also have the book with the Jiminy Cricket family tree,
but it only uses English.
-Rich Bellacera
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