Somebody know if one of the Disney comics from Gemstone will be dedicated to current italian comics? Are not my favorites and these new editions are a bit expensive.
I have no problem with people like Scarpa, but I am not a fan of the current italian style...
thanks,
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Author
Topic: 200307
(351 messages)
Fabio Blanco
GEMSTONES italian comics?
Message 151 -
2003-07-12 at 07:01:37
Don Rosa
DCML Digest Issue 15
Message 152 -
2003-07-12 at 10:05:20
> From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
>>>>If Don Rosa is so da**ed important over there why have they seen less
Don
Rosa stories in print than in Denmark and in Norway?
First, you criticize the Swedish editors because they don't print my long
stories that have never been broken into chapters by the central division of
Egmont which supplies the material, stories that Sweden *can't* print
because they do not publish the supplemental extra issues which can contain
such long stories like Denmark and Norway do.
>>>>>Anyway IMO NAFS(K) should try to do something with the insane situation
in
the Swedish used comics market.
Next you criticize my friends at NAFS(k) because... what?... they don't
seize control of the Swedish government and impose some sort of cultural
dictatorship on the entire nation?
>>>>May I suggest that you go to Sacandinavia next time you bring your wife
Ann
with you to Europe. At least here people can speak English and
pursesnatchers are much fewer than in Napoli.
Next, you move on, and, for no apparent reason, you insult Naples in
particular and Italy in general (as opposed to a single reporter who might
have been at fault or merely not quoted with perfect accuracy).
>>>>Well, I am sure that serious readers as AC Sivebfk, Thomas Lauritsen and
Sxren Krarup Olesen much rather would prefer to see a classic like "Cash
Flow" that has NOT YET seen print in Denmark and Sweden.
Next, for no apparent reason, you insult anyone who prefers the work of Walt
Kelly to a hack like me; Walt Kelly, one of history's greatest cartoonists,
far more accomplished, well-known and respected than even Carl Barks. And
you put this same criticism into the innocent mouths of three other people.
Sigvald... have you ever considered the idea of the LURK mode?
>>>>If Don Rosa is so da**ed important over there why have they seen less
Don
Rosa stories in print than in Denmark and in Norway?
First, you criticize the Swedish editors because they don't print my long
stories that have never been broken into chapters by the central division of
Egmont which supplies the material, stories that Sweden *can't* print
because they do not publish the supplemental extra issues which can contain
such long stories like Denmark and Norway do.
>>>>>Anyway IMO NAFS(K) should try to do something with the insane situation
in
the Swedish used comics market.
Next you criticize my friends at NAFS(k) because... what?... they don't
seize control of the Swedish government and impose some sort of cultural
dictatorship on the entire nation?
>>>>May I suggest that you go to Sacandinavia next time you bring your wife
Ann
with you to Europe. At least here people can speak English and
pursesnatchers are much fewer than in Napoli.
Next, you move on, and, for no apparent reason, you insult Naples in
particular and Italy in general (as opposed to a single reporter who might
have been at fault or merely not quoted with perfect accuracy).
>>>>Well, I am sure that serious readers as AC Sivebfk, Thomas Lauritsen and
Sxren Krarup Olesen much rather would prefer to see a classic like "Cash
Flow" that has NOT YET seen print in Denmark and Sweden.
Next, for no apparent reason, you insult anyone who prefers the work of Walt
Kelly to a hack like me; Walt Kelly, one of history's greatest cartoonists,
far more accomplished, well-known and respected than even Carl Barks. And
you put this same criticism into the innocent mouths of three other people.
Sigvald... have you ever considered the idea of the LURK mode?
Olaf Solstrand
Walt Kelly surprise in #28
Message 153 -
2003-07-12 at 12:24:30
JOAKIM GUNNARSON:
> Readers of the scandinavian weekly can expext
> a truly rare gem in #28. (Out now!)
> A 1948 Giveaway Walt Kelly story that I believe
> never has been reprinted anywhere before.
>
SIGVALD GR?SFJELD JR.:
> Well, I am sure that serious readers as AC Siveb?k, Thomas Lauritsen and
> S?ren Krarup Olesen much rather would prefer to see a classic like "Cash
> Flow" that has NOT YET seen print in Denmark and Sweden.
>
First: Please be more specific. Since this is you, I ASSUME you're talking
about "Cash Flow" by Don Rosa... That's not the only story by that name, you
know. But it seems obvious to me that you are talking about AR 106 "Cash
Flow" here (not about D 96446 "Cash Flow"), because you
a) call it a classic - well, in my opinion it's not, at least not yet, a
classic. Still, it's older than D 96446, and as D 96446 is a one-pager, I
doubt too many would call it a classic. At least yet.
b) say it's not published in Sweden and Denmark, which D 96446 is.
c) are Sigvald.
Now when that is said, on to my comment.
I ASSUME that you have spoken to Anders Christian Siveb?k, Thomas Pryds
Lauritsen and S?ren Krarup Olesen about this, since you are so sure?
Well, if that's the view of you serious readers, let me report the case from
the point of view of one unserious reader - me (as the individual I am, I
can't talk for anyone but myself).
First: Let me say, I think it's FABULOUS by Egmont to reprint this. Walt
Kelly is loved by many, and as this story NEVER has been reprinted ANYWHERE
before, since it was GIVEN AWAY to customers by an ice cream parlor in
_1948_, the reprint value is HIGH in my heart!
Second: The Scandinavian weekly is reprinting a Don Rosa story NEXT WEEK.
Why would they print Don Rosa stories in two issues in a row?
Third: In my opinion, "Cash Flow" is not a classic. Well, and certainly not
compaired to a Kelly story.
Fourth: You use as an argument that "Cash Flow" has not been printed in
Sweden or Denmark. Well, neither has this Kelly story. It hasn't been
published ANYWHERE outside the US of A - and there only in an ice cream
shop, 55 years ago. It hasn't been published in Norway before either, you
know.
Fifth: Many Norwegians would probably find use of "Cash Flow" here strange,
as that story was printed not too many years ago. But maybe in a few years?
Well, but don't listen to me. As you already have stated: I, Joakim
Gunnarson, Don Rosa and others liking the work of Kelly are unserious
readers - in contradiction to serious readers like you, Anders Christian,
Thomas and S?ren, who would prefer it if Walt Kelly stories were not printed
at all, but left out to leave room for classic - like ten year old Don Rosa
stories.
Best,
Olaf the Blue
unserious reader
PS - to your other mails, Sigvald: Donald Duck magazines containing Don Rosa
stories are extra expensive used in Norway too - and I understand it. People
is willing to do anything to get them - so other people sell them to the
highest price possible. The reason is simple: THERE ARE PEOPLE WILLING TO
PAY THESE PRICES That's the rules of buying and selling. When people want
something, SELL IT EXPENSIVE
> Readers of the scandinavian weekly can expext
> a truly rare gem in #28. (Out now!)
> A 1948 Giveaway Walt Kelly story that I believe
> never has been reprinted anywhere before.
>
SIGVALD GR?SFJELD JR.:
> Well, I am sure that serious readers as AC Siveb?k, Thomas Lauritsen and
> S?ren Krarup Olesen much rather would prefer to see a classic like "Cash
> Flow" that has NOT YET seen print in Denmark and Sweden.
>
First: Please be more specific. Since this is you, I ASSUME you're talking
about "Cash Flow" by Don Rosa... That's not the only story by that name, you
know. But it seems obvious to me that you are talking about AR 106 "Cash
Flow" here (not about D 96446 "Cash Flow"), because you
a) call it a classic - well, in my opinion it's not, at least not yet, a
classic. Still, it's older than D 96446, and as D 96446 is a one-pager, I
doubt too many would call it a classic. At least yet.
b) say it's not published in Sweden and Denmark, which D 96446 is.
c) are Sigvald.
Now when that is said, on to my comment.
I ASSUME that you have spoken to Anders Christian Siveb?k, Thomas Pryds
Lauritsen and S?ren Krarup Olesen about this, since you are so sure?
Well, if that's the view of you serious readers, let me report the case from
the point of view of one unserious reader - me (as the individual I am, I
can't talk for anyone but myself).
First: Let me say, I think it's FABULOUS by Egmont to reprint this. Walt
Kelly is loved by many, and as this story NEVER has been reprinted ANYWHERE
before, since it was GIVEN AWAY to customers by an ice cream parlor in
_1948_, the reprint value is HIGH in my heart!
Second: The Scandinavian weekly is reprinting a Don Rosa story NEXT WEEK.
Why would they print Don Rosa stories in two issues in a row?
Third: In my opinion, "Cash Flow" is not a classic. Well, and certainly not
compaired to a Kelly story.
Fourth: You use as an argument that "Cash Flow" has not been printed in
Sweden or Denmark. Well, neither has this Kelly story. It hasn't been
published ANYWHERE outside the US of A - and there only in an ice cream
shop, 55 years ago. It hasn't been published in Norway before either, you
know.
Fifth: Many Norwegians would probably find use of "Cash Flow" here strange,
as that story was printed not too many years ago. But maybe in a few years?
Well, but don't listen to me. As you already have stated: I, Joakim
Gunnarson, Don Rosa and others liking the work of Kelly are unserious
readers - in contradiction to serious readers like you, Anders Christian,
Thomas and S?ren, who would prefer it if Walt Kelly stories were not printed
at all, but left out to leave room for classic - like ten year old Don Rosa
stories.
Best,
Olaf the Blue
unserious reader
PS - to your other mails, Sigvald: Donald Duck magazines containing Don Rosa
stories are extra expensive used in Norway too - and I understand it. People
is willing to do anything to get them - so other people sell them to the
highest price possible. The reason is simple: THERE ARE PEOPLE WILLING TO
PAY THESE PRICES That's the rules of buying and selling. When people want
something, SELL IT EXPENSIVE
Mike Devery
Dogs: boom beagle?
Message 154 -
2003-07-12 at 13:50:30
Hi all,
speaking of dogs, does Boom Beagle, a character associated with the
Beagle Boys, wear a top with the number "64" on it?
Mike.
speaking of dogs, does Boom Beagle, a character associated with the
Beagle Boys, wear a top with the number "64" on it?
Mike.
Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
Walt Kelly surprise in #28
Message 155 -
2003-07-12 at 14:06:56
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. wrote:
> <Joakim.Gunnarsson at egmont.se> wrote:
>>Readers of the scandinavian weekly can expext
>>a truly rare gem in #28. (Out now!)
>>A 1948 Giveaway Walt Kelly story that I believe
>>never has been reprinted anywhere before.
>
> Well, I am sure that serious readers as AC Siveb?k, Thomas Lauritsen and
> S?ren Krarup Olesen much rather would prefer to see a classic like "Cash
> Flow" that has NOT YET seen print in Denmark and Sweden.
I'm not sure what makes you think of me as a "serious reader," but
please don't try to express my opinions publically, especially when you
haven't discussed them with me.
I *would* like to see AR 106 "Cash Flow" printed in Denmark, yes, but
that doesn't mean that I am not also very happy to see this Walt Kelly
four-pager in print -- especially now, when I'm told that it hasn't been
published anywhere in the world, except in a now very rare(?) American
issue. From a personal point of view, I have already read and own AR 106
in English, so this story is not new to me, whereas the Walt Kelly story is.
Having said that, my guess is that Egmont will publish AR 106 "Cash
Flow" at some point. Next week they will be printing another one of Don
Rosa's earlier stories, D 90147 "On Stolen Time" for the second time,
and they have done so with other Don Rosa stories lately. So when the
times comes for AR 106, it will just be a reprint in Norway and a first
print in Denmark.
Any why D 90147 next week and not AR 106? I don't know, but possible
reasons are that in Scandinavia (in this case i.e. Norway), D 90147
(1991) was originally published before AR 106 (1992) and that AR 106 has
the double amount of pages as does D 90147 so perhaps it wouldn't fit
into next week's issue. But these are only my guesses, of course.
Thomas
> <Joakim.Gunnarsson at egmont.se> wrote:
>>Readers of the scandinavian weekly can expext
>>a truly rare gem in #28. (Out now!)
>>A 1948 Giveaway Walt Kelly story that I believe
>>never has been reprinted anywhere before.
>
> Well, I am sure that serious readers as AC Siveb?k, Thomas Lauritsen and
> S?ren Krarup Olesen much rather would prefer to see a classic like "Cash
> Flow" that has NOT YET seen print in Denmark and Sweden.
I'm not sure what makes you think of me as a "serious reader," but
please don't try to express my opinions publically, especially when you
haven't discussed them with me.
I *would* like to see AR 106 "Cash Flow" printed in Denmark, yes, but
that doesn't mean that I am not also very happy to see this Walt Kelly
four-pager in print -- especially now, when I'm told that it hasn't been
published anywhere in the world, except in a now very rare(?) American
issue. From a personal point of view, I have already read and own AR 106
in English, so this story is not new to me, whereas the Walt Kelly story is.
Having said that, my guess is that Egmont will publish AR 106 "Cash
Flow" at some point. Next week they will be printing another one of Don
Rosa's earlier stories, D 90147 "On Stolen Time" for the second time,
and they have done so with other Don Rosa stories lately. So when the
times comes for AR 106, it will just be a reprint in Norway and a first
print in Denmark.
Any why D 90147 next week and not AR 106? I don't know, but possible
reasons are that in Scandinavia (in this case i.e. Norway), D 90147
(1991) was originally published before AR 106 (1992) and that AR 106 has
the double amount of pages as does D 90147 so perhaps it wouldn't fit
into next week's issue. But these are only my guesses, of course.
Thomas
Daniel Van Eijmeren
A Little Something Special / A journey to Duckburg
Message 156 -
2003-07-12 at 14:30:03
SIGVALD GROSFJELD to ANTHVVUONO, 12-07-2003:
> But just relax - "A Little Something Special" is a typichal
> fictional anniversary story - according to the Barks chronology
> Flintheart Glomgold and Magica de Spell didn't apear in Duckburg
> until later.
In that case, every Rosa-story with Magica would be "fictional".
Magica was created in the 1960s.
In Don Rosa's universe, Flintheart and Magica have met Scrooge long
before the 1960s. And Flintheart even appears in the Lo$. This would
make the Lo$ "fictional", too.
I don't understand why you mention the "Barks chronology" to make
Rosa's "A Little Something Special" a typical fictional anniversary
story, while that "Barks chronology" would not count for other Rosa
stories which are also fictional according to that same reasoning.
Maybe you just meant that *you* find "A Little Something Special"
a fictional story?
SIGVALD GROSFJELD, 12-07-2003:
> Once I got some scans of a nice article "A journey to Duckburg" about
> the top-meeting between CB and DR in 1998:
You mentioned the same URL twice. I think these are the URLs you meant
instead:
http://duckman.pettho.com/drinfo/page1.html
http://duckman.pettho.com/drinfo/page2.html
> Can anyone here please tell me in what magazine and in ehat issue
> that article saw print?
My comics archive is still a mess after having moved last year, so I
can't check. I believe this was an article in one of the last Gladstone
comics, somewhere in 1998 or 1999.
--- Dani?l
PS. Sigvald, I find your other emails insulting. So, I want to recommend
you: please don't make the same mistakes over again.
> But just relax - "A Little Something Special" is a typichal
> fictional anniversary story - according to the Barks chronology
> Flintheart Glomgold and Magica de Spell didn't apear in Duckburg
> until later.
In that case, every Rosa-story with Magica would be "fictional".
Magica was created in the 1960s.
In Don Rosa's universe, Flintheart and Magica have met Scrooge long
before the 1960s. And Flintheart even appears in the Lo$. This would
make the Lo$ "fictional", too.
I don't understand why you mention the "Barks chronology" to make
Rosa's "A Little Something Special" a typical fictional anniversary
story, while that "Barks chronology" would not count for other Rosa
stories which are also fictional according to that same reasoning.
Maybe you just meant that *you* find "A Little Something Special"
a fictional story?
SIGVALD GROSFJELD, 12-07-2003:
> Once I got some scans of a nice article "A journey to Duckburg" about
> the top-meeting between CB and DR in 1998:
You mentioned the same URL twice. I think these are the URLs you meant
instead:
http://duckman.pettho.com/drinfo/page1.html
http://duckman.pettho.com/drinfo/page2.html
> Can anyone here please tell me in what magazine and in ehat issue
> that article saw print?
My comics archive is still a mess after having moved last year, so I
can't check. I believe this was an article in one of the last Gladstone
comics, somewhere in 1998 or 1999.
--- Dani?l
PS. Sigvald, I find your other emails insulting. So, I want to recommend
you: please don't make the same mistakes over again.
Anders Christian Sivebæk
DCML Digest, Vol 5, Issue 15
Message 157 -
2003-07-12 at 16:27:42
Hi all
Sigvald: Insane Swedes
Now that's crossing the line, but I almost see what you mean.
> Our social democrat neighbours showing their true capitalist identity?
I guess so - but really, it's just a showing of how the rules of supply and
demand work.
I'm sure if you had a comicshop and you knew you could sell these comics for
5 times
as much as the usual ones, then you would - I would... But also: I would
give discounts to
persons who buy a lot of comics, who show that they are fans. The owner of
Seriegrossisten
in Stockholm, a shop that was recommended to me by friends on the swedish
ankism-list took
750 kroner for a stack of comics that we both counted up to 945. It included
the Live of Scrooge
in swedish - 600 kroner - one could say I got it for 400. It sells at some
shops for 1000 up there...
Now that's realy supply and demand - for Pete's sake the book is only 7
years old...
I got you, Sigvald a copy of it, at the price of a new one at a comic shop i
Copenhagen...
But yes, Don sells - look to the finns, whenever there is a Rosa-story in
Aku Ankka, as far as I
can see the price would go up a few markka, and now euroes. They now they
will sell the whole
bunch anyway, cause we insane completists will buy it nomatter what - eh?
> If Don Rosa is so da**ed important over there why have they seen less Don
> Rosa stories in print than in Denmark and in Norway?
They have adifferent publishing policy - many percent of the issues of KA go
to subscribers,
it can even be seen on the back of the comic where there's room for name and
adress.
That means they don't have to sell as much on the stands - thus they don't
have extra issues
so often, like we have in DK and Norway with Rosa or Barks-stories.
This has shown good for me, as I have found friendly swap-mates because of
this.
Anyone still needing Columbus, King Scrooge or The Duck who never was? Oops
sorry, this is not the place... :-)
> Anyway IMO NAFS(K) should try to do something with the insane situation in
> the Swedish used comics market.
I don't think they can - one librarian I talked to for a while did agree
with an old
comic-shop-owner I met earlier that it might be the collectors who bring the
prices up -
as they overbid eachother - the collectors they most mentioned were the ones
from
Seriefr?mjandet - any of you here?
BTW I hope my american friends here are enjoying the duck comics back in the
states.
I saw some on the stands, but as I already have an agreement on the first
US-issues
with the Dutchmam I didn't buy. I think I'll buy the next ones from Fantask,
the oldest
comic shop in Copenhagen, and most possibly one of the best too :-)
So I wont bring any of you to drewl when i tell you about this summer in our
danish weekly -
but it sure has been fine. Every summer the pagecount is enlarged to 96
(from 64) making
room for extra long, extra great stories.
Issue 27 was the first of these. It had The Menehune Mystery by Barks, this
story was printed
in a goldbook that I don't have, so I was delighteds to see this. (I decided
to finally collect these
goldbooks now, they have Barks classics all over them.) Also in issue 27
second part of a new
series (Mythic island or something like that?) starring Mickey and Goofy,
whereas the first part
starred the ducks. I'm looking forward to see next part - in issue 30.
Issue 28 has the unabridged version of a fine Marco Rota-story - it's been
published two times
before but then cut. (BTW I know this from the swedish edition - the danish
one forgets to tell...
and I start to wonder if I'm the only one who cares about such info??) the
extra pages also
contains a very old comic with Goofy, drawn by Wilfred Haughton - last time
I saw anything like
it was at David Gerstein's - did you have a finger here, Gerstein, my
friend?
Issue 29 - Let me exclamate: Hooray! The reason isn't the republication of
Don's On Stolen time,
no, finally they print Don's old drawings (from Gary Leach's story) Fiscal
fitness (AR 118).
These two pages can just make the day of a Rosa-completist like me. Now I
only need to get my
hands on the swedish edition, as Sigvald promissed to buy the norwegian one
for me (remember a
copy for yourself, friend). I hope the author and artist get this
publication, but if not I'll be glad to see to it.
That's all from me for now - Happy Quacking and all that
Yours delurking
AC
Sigvald: Insane Swedes
Now that's crossing the line, but I almost see what you mean.
> Our social democrat neighbours showing their true capitalist identity?
I guess so - but really, it's just a showing of how the rules of supply and
demand work.
I'm sure if you had a comicshop and you knew you could sell these comics for
5 times
as much as the usual ones, then you would - I would... But also: I would
give discounts to
persons who buy a lot of comics, who show that they are fans. The owner of
Seriegrossisten
in Stockholm, a shop that was recommended to me by friends on the swedish
ankism-list took
750 kroner for a stack of comics that we both counted up to 945. It included
the Live of Scrooge
in swedish - 600 kroner - one could say I got it for 400. It sells at some
shops for 1000 up there...
Now that's realy supply and demand - for Pete's sake the book is only 7
years old...
I got you, Sigvald a copy of it, at the price of a new one at a comic shop i
Copenhagen...
But yes, Don sells - look to the finns, whenever there is a Rosa-story in
Aku Ankka, as far as I
can see the price would go up a few markka, and now euroes. They now they
will sell the whole
bunch anyway, cause we insane completists will buy it nomatter what - eh?
> If Don Rosa is so da**ed important over there why have they seen less Don
> Rosa stories in print than in Denmark and in Norway?
They have adifferent publishing policy - many percent of the issues of KA go
to subscribers,
it can even be seen on the back of the comic where there's room for name and
adress.
That means they don't have to sell as much on the stands - thus they don't
have extra issues
so often, like we have in DK and Norway with Rosa or Barks-stories.
This has shown good for me, as I have found friendly swap-mates because of
this.
Anyone still needing Columbus, King Scrooge or The Duck who never was? Oops
sorry, this is not the place... :-)
> Anyway IMO NAFS(K) should try to do something with the insane situation in
> the Swedish used comics market.
I don't think they can - one librarian I talked to for a while did agree
with an old
comic-shop-owner I met earlier that it might be the collectors who bring the
prices up -
as they overbid eachother - the collectors they most mentioned were the ones
from
Seriefr?mjandet - any of you here?
BTW I hope my american friends here are enjoying the duck comics back in the
states.
I saw some on the stands, but as I already have an agreement on the first
US-issues
with the Dutchmam I didn't buy. I think I'll buy the next ones from Fantask,
the oldest
comic shop in Copenhagen, and most possibly one of the best too :-)
So I wont bring any of you to drewl when i tell you about this summer in our
danish weekly -
but it sure has been fine. Every summer the pagecount is enlarged to 96
(from 64) making
room for extra long, extra great stories.
Issue 27 was the first of these. It had The Menehune Mystery by Barks, this
story was printed
in a goldbook that I don't have, so I was delighteds to see this. (I decided
to finally collect these
goldbooks now, they have Barks classics all over them.) Also in issue 27
second part of a new
series (Mythic island or something like that?) starring Mickey and Goofy,
whereas the first part
starred the ducks. I'm looking forward to see next part - in issue 30.
Issue 28 has the unabridged version of a fine Marco Rota-story - it's been
published two times
before but then cut. (BTW I know this from the swedish edition - the danish
one forgets to tell...
and I start to wonder if I'm the only one who cares about such info??) the
extra pages also
contains a very old comic with Goofy, drawn by Wilfred Haughton - last time
I saw anything like
it was at David Gerstein's - did you have a finger here, Gerstein, my
friend?
Issue 29 - Let me exclamate: Hooray! The reason isn't the republication of
Don's On Stolen time,
no, finally they print Don's old drawings (from Gary Leach's story) Fiscal
fitness (AR 118).
These two pages can just make the day of a Rosa-completist like me. Now I
only need to get my
hands on the swedish edition, as Sigvald promissed to buy the norwegian one
for me (remember a
copy for yourself, friend). I hope the author and artist get this
publication, but if not I'll be glad to see to it.
That's all from me for now - Happy Quacking and all that
Yours delurking
AC
KUR
Blackheart Beagle's Age
Message 158 -
2003-07-12 at 16:55:57
> Assuming that Blackheart's sons are 18 in 1880 (born in 1862) and that
they
> was born while Blackheart himself was 18 then he was born in 1844 - being
> 108 in 1952. But just relax - "A Little Something Special" is a typichal
> fictional anniversary story - according to the Barks chronology Flintheart
> Glomgold and Magica de Spell didn't apear in Duckburg until later.
>
Did "The Beagle Boys V.S. The Money Bin" is Fictional to?
(Blackheart aperd in it to)
And hou sed he have kids wen he was 18? He coud have theam wen he was 17 or
16.
Yours
Maciek
they
> was born while Blackheart himself was 18 then he was born in 1844 - being
> 108 in 1952. But just relax - "A Little Something Special" is a typichal
> fictional anniversary story - according to the Barks chronology Flintheart
> Glomgold and Magica de Spell didn't apear in Duckburg until later.
>
Did "The Beagle Boys V.S. The Money Bin" is Fictional to?
(Blackheart aperd in it to)
And hou sed he have kids wen he was 18? He coud have theam wen he was 17 or
16.
Yours
Maciek
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
A Little Something Special / A journey to Duckburg
Message 159 -
2003-07-12 at 17:38:41
Daniel van Eijmeren wrote:
> And Flintheart even appears in the Lo$. This
> would make the Lo$ "fictional", too.
No, if you had bothered to check Don's comments to that particular chapter
you would have known that there is *no* contradiction to Barks there. To
make it fit with Barks $crooge doesn't learn Flintheart's name by then.
Sigvald
> And Flintheart even appears in the Lo$. This
> would make the Lo$ "fictional", too.
No, if you had bothered to check Don's comments to that particular chapter
you would have known that there is *no* contradiction to Barks there. To
make it fit with Barks $crooge doesn't learn Flintheart's name by then.
Sigvald
Daniel Van Eijmeren
A Little Something "Fictional"
Message 160 -
2003-07-12 at 17:45:23
SIGVALD GROSFJELD to me, 12-07-2003:
>> And Flintheart even appears in the Lo$. This would make the Lo$
>> "fictional", too.
> No, if you had bothered to check Don's comments to that particular
> chapter
Sigvald, I don't like this tone.
> you would have known that there is *no* contradiction to Barks there.
> To make it fit with Barks $crooge doesn't learn Flintheart's name by
> then.
I was NOT referring to *any* contradiction between Rosa and Barks.
Instead, I was referring to the contradiction in YOUR information.
--- Dani?l
>> And Flintheart even appears in the Lo$. This would make the Lo$
>> "fictional", too.
> No, if you had bothered to check Don's comments to that particular
> chapter
Sigvald, I don't like this tone.
> you would have known that there is *no* contradiction to Barks there.
> To make it fit with Barks $crooge doesn't learn Flintheart's name by
> then.
I was NOT referring to *any* contradiction between Rosa and Barks.
Instead, I was referring to the contradiction in YOUR information.
--- Dani?l
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Blackheart Beagle's Age
Message 161 -
2003-07-12 at 18:14:24
Maciek <ggk at wp.pl> wrote:
> Is "The Beagle Boys V.S. The Money Bin"
> Fictional to? (Blackheart aperd in it)
Probably not, at least it doesn't contradict Barks' chronology.
> And hou sed he have kids wen he was 18?
> He coud have theam wen he was 17 or 16.
This is Disney comics in where moral is very important. So my guess is that
people won't have children before they are married. AFAIK to be married
people must be 18, at least in the western world.
Sigvald
> Is "The Beagle Boys V.S. The Money Bin"
> Fictional to? (Blackheart aperd in it)
Probably not, at least it doesn't contradict Barks' chronology.
> And hou sed he have kids wen he was 18?
> He coud have theam wen he was 17 or 16.
This is Disney comics in where moral is very important. So my guess is that
people won't have children before they are married. AFAIK to be married
people must be 18, at least in the western world.
Sigvald
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Cash Flow
Message 162 -
2003-07-12 at 18:22:43
Hi all!
As my recent comments concerning the Walt Kelly Surprise vs Don Rosa's "Cash
Flow" has caused some unwanted turbulence I will here give a friendly
explanation for my reaction so that this doesn't cause further turbulence:
When I recently saw that Don Rosa's "On Stolen Time" was to be republished
as "Sommer-lesning" I immediately decided to address DCML in order to
friendly ask our friends at Egmont like David Gerstein, why they seem to
keep ignoring the fact that Don Rosa's "Cash Flow" has not yet seen print in
Denmark (and Sweden). However before I came that long I saw the notion about
the Walt Kelly surprise and decided to put my comment into that thread
instead of making a whole new thread. It was *not* meant as any kind of
critics against Walt Kelly's name or reputation.
I didn't speak to our Danish friends before I wrote my statement, but both
AC and Thomas have previously told me that the really want to see Cash Flow
in Denmark. Both AC and Thomas (even though he didn't tell you in his recent
comment) have got the Norwegian version from me ? and so have some other
members of DDF(R).
To Olaf: How could I know that less known writers/artists like Jesper Lund
Madsen and Pedro Alferez Canos have "stolen" Don Rosa's "Cash Flow" title.
Could this be the reason Don Rosa's "Cash Flow" has not yet been printed in
Denmark?
Sigvald
As my recent comments concerning the Walt Kelly Surprise vs Don Rosa's "Cash
Flow" has caused some unwanted turbulence I will here give a friendly
explanation for my reaction so that this doesn't cause further turbulence:
When I recently saw that Don Rosa's "On Stolen Time" was to be republished
as "Sommer-lesning" I immediately decided to address DCML in order to
friendly ask our friends at Egmont like David Gerstein, why they seem to
keep ignoring the fact that Don Rosa's "Cash Flow" has not yet seen print in
Denmark (and Sweden). However before I came that long I saw the notion about
the Walt Kelly surprise and decided to put my comment into that thread
instead of making a whole new thread. It was *not* meant as any kind of
critics against Walt Kelly's name or reputation.
I didn't speak to our Danish friends before I wrote my statement, but both
AC and Thomas have previously told me that the really want to see Cash Flow
in Denmark. Both AC and Thomas (even though he didn't tell you in his recent
comment) have got the Norwegian version from me ? and so have some other
members of DDF(R).
To Olaf: How could I know that less known writers/artists like Jesper Lund
Madsen and Pedro Alferez Canos have "stolen" Don Rosa's "Cash Flow" title.
Could this be the reason Don Rosa's "Cash Flow" has not yet been printed in
Denmark?
Sigvald
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
DCML Digest, Vol 5, Issue 15
Message 163 -
2003-07-12 at 18:37:18
Anders Christian Siveb?k wrote:
> Sigvald: Insane Swedes
> Now that's crossing the line, but I almost see
> what you mean.
It was you that introduced that expresion to DCML, AC... I din't mean any
harm with it, and neither did you. Any way my apologis to all Swedes here
for us using that expression.
> but really, it's just a showing of how the
> rules of supply and demand work.
Well at L?v?s there is still the same price wheter ther is Don Rosa in a
magazine or not.
> I'm sure if you had a comicshop and you knew
> you could sell these comics for 5 times
> as much as the usual ones, then you would...
Well I actually see that as gread, but then I am not a Swedish social
democrat either...
> The owner of Seriegrossisten in Stockholm, a
> shop that was recommended to me by friends on
> the swedish ankism-list took 750 kroner for a
> stack of comics that we both counted up to 945.
Just as in L?v?s, remember...
> Every summer the pagecount is enlarged to 96
> (from 64) making room for extra long, extra
> great stories.
However so far *not* Don Rosa's "Cash Flow"...
> Issue 29 - Let me exclamate: Hooray! The reason
> isn't the republication of Don's On Stolen time,
> no, finally they print Don's old drawings (from
> Gary Leach's story) Fiscal fitness (AR 118).
Great news! But why do they announce "On Stolen Time" in issue 28 in stead
of this story that has previously not seen print in Scandinavia? Hard core
fans like me, Geir J. Netland and others find that much more interesting
than seeing "On Stolen Time" once more.
Sigvald
> Sigvald: Insane Swedes
> Now that's crossing the line, but I almost see
> what you mean.
It was you that introduced that expresion to DCML, AC... I din't mean any
harm with it, and neither did you. Any way my apologis to all Swedes here
for us using that expression.
> but really, it's just a showing of how the
> rules of supply and demand work.
Well at L?v?s there is still the same price wheter ther is Don Rosa in a
magazine or not.
> I'm sure if you had a comicshop and you knew
> you could sell these comics for 5 times
> as much as the usual ones, then you would...
Well I actually see that as gread, but then I am not a Swedish social
democrat either...
> The owner of Seriegrossisten in Stockholm, a
> shop that was recommended to me by friends on
> the swedish ankism-list took 750 kroner for a
> stack of comics that we both counted up to 945.
Just as in L?v?s, remember...
> Every summer the pagecount is enlarged to 96
> (from 64) making room for extra long, extra
> great stories.
However so far *not* Don Rosa's "Cash Flow"...
> Issue 29 - Let me exclamate: Hooray! The reason
> isn't the republication of Don's On Stolen time,
> no, finally they print Don's old drawings (from
> Gary Leach's story) Fiscal fitness (AR 118).
Great news! But why do they announce "On Stolen Time" in issue 28 in stead
of this story that has previously not seen print in Scandinavia? Hard core
fans like me, Geir J. Netland and others find that much more interesting
than seeing "On Stolen Time" once more.
Sigvald
Anders Christian Sivebæk
DCML Digest, Vol 5, Issue 16
Message 164 -
2003-07-12 at 18:37:31
Hi all
I wasn't aware about the Walt Kelly story in the issue I found in the mail
today - I noticed though the old Goofy-strip. I like that kind of stuff that
haven't been published before - it's fun to see...
So as much i would like to see Cash Flow by Rosa printed here, i don't
dislike a story by Walt Kelly - the person who AFAIK created ...
So Sigvald - you're right I would like to see Cash Flow reprinted, and I'm
glad you see me as a serious reader, but many here are, not just we who have
met you live or in chats.
Just as you yourself tells people to be aware not to insult Barks- or
Rosa-fans here, don't insult fans of other
artists. - One of the reasons Disney comics are so loved might be that there
are such a great variety in them - something for every reader!
What is the difference btw between fiction and fiction? It seems we use the
terms differently at times.
A story by Barks that contains a "barksian fact" is much more non-fictional
than one about some fantasy-creature the ducks encounter... but heck - these
are all comics?!
Before I go away, I'd like to strongly recommend Donald Aults book "Carl
Barks Conversations" - I was reminded of many things while I read it, and
the last part, about the 10 bank notes and Carl being very ill made my so
sad... -
August 25, 2000 - RIP
AC
I wasn't aware about the Walt Kelly story in the issue I found in the mail
today - I noticed though the old Goofy-strip. I like that kind of stuff that
haven't been published before - it's fun to see...
So as much i would like to see Cash Flow by Rosa printed here, i don't
dislike a story by Walt Kelly - the person who AFAIK created ...
So Sigvald - you're right I would like to see Cash Flow reprinted, and I'm
glad you see me as a serious reader, but many here are, not just we who have
met you live or in chats.
Just as you yourself tells people to be aware not to insult Barks- or
Rosa-fans here, don't insult fans of other
artists. - One of the reasons Disney comics are so loved might be that there
are such a great variety in them - something for every reader!
What is the difference btw between fiction and fiction? It seems we use the
terms differently at times.
A story by Barks that contains a "barksian fact" is much more non-fictional
than one about some fantasy-creature the ducks encounter... but heck - these
are all comics?!
Before I go away, I'd like to strongly recommend Donald Aults book "Carl
Barks Conversations" - I was reminded of many things while I read it, and
the last part, about the 10 bank notes and Carl being very ill made my so
sad... -
August 25, 2000 - RIP
AC
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
A Little Something "Fictional"
Message 165 -
2003-07-12 at 18:40:52
Daniel van Eijmeren <dve at kabelfoon.nl> wrote:
> No, if you had bothered to check Don's comments
> to that particular chapter
>
> Sigvald, I don't like this tone.
OK, Sorry, my appology!!!
> I was NOT referring to *any* contradiction
> between Rosa and Barks. Instead, I was
> referring to the contradiction in YOUR
> information.
What contradiction???
Sigvald
> No, if you had bothered to check Don's comments
> to that particular chapter
>
> Sigvald, I don't like this tone.
OK, Sorry, my appology!!!
> I was NOT referring to *any* contradiction
> between Rosa and Barks. Instead, I was
> referring to the contradiction in YOUR
> information.
What contradiction???
Sigvald