Hi all!
Happy 4th of July for all Americans here! As you will see it has been a
happy day here in Stavanger too!
Earlier this summer our local brewery, Tou, was closed down. However some
people here thinks that every city with the slightest respect for itself
should have:
1) a cathedral
2) a club playing in the fotball (=soccer) top division
3) a local brewed beer
so they started a new brewer "Lervig Aktiebryggeri AS" and today their brew
reached the market for the very first time and is so to say born on the 4th
of July! I have now tasted it and can confirm that it's great!
But to make this slightly on-topic - are there many stories in where there
are shown or mentioned the use of alcohol? I can think of Don Rosa's "The
Sharpie of the Culebra Cut" in where Teddy's Cognac is mentioned, but are
there more? Haven't we seen scenes from pubs where the Beagle Boys or others
are drinking beer?
And have there ever been made any stories in where there have been drawn
lines between the McDucks and Scotch Whisky?
Sigvald
Author
Topic: 200307
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Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Born on the 4th of July (about alcohol in Disney-stories)
Message 46 -
2003-07-04 at 21:21:43
Gary Leach
DCML Digest, Vol 5, Issue 4
Message 47 -
2003-07-05 at 00:36:32
All:
Concerning recent reports of WDCS 634 not showing up along with US 319
in the American southeast - these books were shipped out from the
printer to that region's distribution centers on different trucks, and
the truck carrying WDCS 634 broke down en route, forcing a delay in
distribution.
Derek:
"Terror of the Beagle Boys" was reproduced by scanning Gladstone album
pages and then reprocessing them to produce new color files, many of
which were lost due to the fluctuating state of archiving back in the
early 1990s.
The "travel" book is Donald Duck Adventures 1, the first volume of the
first series in Gemstone's "Take-Along Comic" project. The stories are
"The Deep" featuring Donald, "Panicking Pachyderms" featuring Mickey,
and "Time of Reckoning" featuring Scrooge. The first has Donald and the
boys tussling with a lagoon monster on one of Uncle Scrooge's oil rigs,
the second involves Mickey with an elephant given to him as a present
from a grateful mideastern potentate, and the third sends Scrooge into
the future to deal with what has been wrought by his investments in
hi-tech in the present.
Gary
Concerning recent reports of WDCS 634 not showing up along with US 319
in the American southeast - these books were shipped out from the
printer to that region's distribution centers on different trucks, and
the truck carrying WDCS 634 broke down en route, forcing a delay in
distribution.
Derek:
"Terror of the Beagle Boys" was reproduced by scanning Gladstone album
pages and then reprocessing them to produce new color files, many of
which were lost due to the fluctuating state of archiving back in the
early 1990s.
The "travel" book is Donald Duck Adventures 1, the first volume of the
first series in Gemstone's "Take-Along Comic" project. The stories are
"The Deep" featuring Donald, "Panicking Pachyderms" featuring Mickey,
and "Time of Reckoning" featuring Scrooge. The first has Donald and the
boys tussling with a lagoon monster on one of Uncle Scrooge's oil rigs,
the second involves Mickey with an elephant given to him as a present
from a grateful mideastern potentate, and the third sends Scrooge into
the future to deal with what has been wrought by his investments in
hi-tech in the present.
Gary
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Vic Lockman
Message 48 -
2003-07-05 at 11:14:14
LARS JENSEN to NILS KLARTEKST, 04-07-2003:
> And Vic Lockman is still alive, too, by the way. I hope he'll show up
> in the Gemstone books at some point.
Can Vic Lockman be contacted for identifying the scripts that were drawn
by Carl Barks? If I remember well, some these scripts were said to have
been made by Lockman. Maybe he can give us more information and details?
That would be very interesting.
--- Dani?l
> And Vic Lockman is still alive, too, by the way. I hope he'll show up
> in the Gemstone books at some point.
Can Vic Lockman be contacted for identifying the scripts that were drawn
by Carl Barks? If I remember well, some these scripts were said to have
been made by Lockman. Maybe he can give us more information and details?
That would be very interesting.
--- Dani?l
Olivier
Floyd Gottfredson audio interview!!
Message 49 -
2003-07-05 at 11:34:13
Hi!
Timo:
>>>> Floyd Gottfredson Interviewed by Arn Saba in The Comics Journal web
site:
>>>> http://www.tcj.com/listen/listen.html
Wonderful!
Thanks a lot, Timo!
And thanks to the Comics Journal if they happen to read the list!
I've donwloaded the files and will listen to them when I have enought time
to do so without fear of being interrupted.
Have a nice week-end!
Olivier
Timo:
>>>> Floyd Gottfredson Interviewed by Arn Saba in The Comics Journal web
site:
>>>> http://www.tcj.com/listen/listen.html
Wonderful!
Thanks a lot, Timo!
And thanks to the Comics Journal if they happen to read the list!
I've donwloaded the files and will listen to them when I have enought time
to do so without fear of being interrupted.
Have a nice week-end!
Olivier
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Br'er Rabbit's nephews?
Message 50 -
2003-07-05 at 16:12:23
Rich,
>I recently learned that Molly Cottontail has two nieces named Annie &
>Fannie, and that Br'er Rabbit has two nephews. I could find no sources for
>the nephews. Does anyone know their names?
The nephews are found in Sunday strip continuity ZB 46-01-27, "De
Famine" (published by Gladstone in WDC 516). They don't have names there. I
don't instantly recall having seen them in any later story, but my memory is
nowhere today.
Maybe they rarely reappeared because their mere relationship to the
hero is a little awkward: when his first name already means "brother",
"Uncle Brer Rabbit" is a mouthful of marbles. :-)
David
>I recently learned that Molly Cottontail has two nieces named Annie &
>Fannie, and that Br'er Rabbit has two nephews. I could find no sources for
>the nephews. Does anyone know their names?
The nephews are found in Sunday strip continuity ZB 46-01-27, "De
Famine" (published by Gladstone in WDC 516). They don't have names there. I
don't instantly recall having seen them in any later story, but my memory is
nowhere today.
Maybe they rarely reappeared because their mere relationship to the
hero is a little awkward: when his first name already means "brother",
"Uncle Brer Rabbit" is a mouthful of marbles. :-)
David
Germund Silvegren
Norwegian Taliaferro books
Message 51 -
2003-07-05 at 20:03:35
A few years ago there was a rumour going round that a few strips in
the Norwegian reprint books with Al Taliaferro's Donald dailies were
published in the wrong volumes. This was supposedly due to the
indicated copyright dates, since a few of the earliest January strips
often were labelled by the previous copyright year. Does anybody know
if there is any truth in this and if so, which strips are
malpublished?
/Germund
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the Norwegian reprint books with Al Taliaferro's Donald dailies were
published in the wrong volumes. This was supposedly due to the
indicated copyright dates, since a few of the earliest January strips
often were labelled by the previous copyright year. Does anybody know
if there is any truth in this and if so, which strips are
malpublished?
/Germund
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Claudio Eckert
(non-)Alcohol
Message 52 -
2003-07-05 at 20:21:49
Olaf Solstrand wrote:
>And, even though this is not alcohol-related, I must mention that one of my
>favorite comics EVER is the one where Scrooge is opening a tobacco
>plantage,
>and have Donald and Fethry doing research for him by picking up cigarette
>ends all over Duckburg to find out what brands are popular. And then, a
>maharaja (or was he a prince?) picks up Donald and rents him to be a
>hitman.
This reminds me of the story I TL 920-A. Iin the German translation Donald
and Fethry have to search for spit off chewing gums, though.
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>And, even though this is not alcohol-related, I must mention that one of my
>favorite comics EVER is the one where Scrooge is opening a tobacco
>plantage,
>and have Donald and Fethry doing research for him by picking up cigarette
>ends all over Duckburg to find out what brands are popular. And then, a
>maharaja (or was he a prince?) picks up Donald and rents him to be a
>hitman.
This reminds me of the story I TL 920-A. Iin the German translation Donald
and Fethry have to search for spit off chewing gums, though.
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About alcohol in Disney-stories
Message 53 -
2003-07-05 at 22:00:15
On Fri, 4 Jul 2003 Olaf Solstrand wrote:
> One I remember specially is one where Scrooge and Rockerduck compete on
> having the biggest collection of rare wine bottles. One of the things
> happening in this story is that Rockerduck gets fooled into trying to bribe
> a man with a barrel of beer. Turns out this man really HATES beer, so
> Rockerduck gets thrown right out of his castle IN the barrel, still full of
> beer.
This one is Zio Paperone e il nabucodonosor da collezione, I TL 902-B
(drawn by Marco Rota). Was it actually mentioned in your version that they
were wine bottles? In the Finnish edition they are just juice bottles.
I was just about 9 years old when I read the story first time and I wasn't
fooled by the translation even back then. Wonder why the editors even
bothered to change it.
> I also remember seeing Scrooge drinking a drink in a bar (I _think_ I saw
> that one in Donald Pocket #2, but...) The drink had "Klondike" in its name,
> and was clearly a drink Scrooge had drinken a lot of in his youth. At least,
> it was way too strong for Donald. Scrooge on his hand drank it as if it was
> water.
This came up here some time ago. I made a scan of the situation:
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/roopejuo2.jpg
(Paperino e il ciclaliante sperimentale, I TL 371-A)
The Finnish name for the drink is Tulikiven katku or roughly The Smell of
Brimstone. The way the bartender mixes the drink is unforgetable.
> And, even though this is not alcohol-related, I must mention that one of my
> favorite comics EVER is the one where Scrooge is opening a tobacco plantage,
> and have Donald and Fethry doing research for him by picking up cigarette
> ends all over Duckburg to find out what brands are popular. And then, a
> maharaja (or was he a prince?) picks up Donald and rents him to be a hitman.
So they were cigarettes! In the Finnish version Scrooge has Donald and
Fethry collecting bubble gum papers. I knew there was something odd with
the papers they picked up. The story is actually from the same pocket book
as the wine bottle collection story. It is Zio Paperone e i "desperados"
di Paperopoli, I TL 920-A.
There are many more occasions of alcohol in the pocket books. Timo
Ronkainen made an article of alcohol and drugs in Disney comics for the
Finnish Disney-fanzine and I helped to collect their appereances from
pocket books. And it was not a small list. One of the greatest examples is
Il romanzo di un papero povero, I TL 586-A. There it is revealed that
Scrooge has smuggled opium in his youth. And on top of that he had cheated
his partner by drugging him with the very opium they were smuggling and
leaving him on a raft in the middle of the ocean. I don't think that sort
of story could be published or even made these days. But it sure was great
reading.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http://www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"AAUGH! It's a half-hour later than it was half an
hour ago! Run! Run!" -Calvin
> One I remember specially is one where Scrooge and Rockerduck compete on
> having the biggest collection of rare wine bottles. One of the things
> happening in this story is that Rockerduck gets fooled into trying to bribe
> a man with a barrel of beer. Turns out this man really HATES beer, so
> Rockerduck gets thrown right out of his castle IN the barrel, still full of
> beer.
This one is Zio Paperone e il nabucodonosor da collezione, I TL 902-B
(drawn by Marco Rota). Was it actually mentioned in your version that they
were wine bottles? In the Finnish edition they are just juice bottles.
I was just about 9 years old when I read the story first time and I wasn't
fooled by the translation even back then. Wonder why the editors even
bothered to change it.
> I also remember seeing Scrooge drinking a drink in a bar (I _think_ I saw
> that one in Donald Pocket #2, but...) The drink had "Klondike" in its name,
> and was clearly a drink Scrooge had drinken a lot of in his youth. At least,
> it was way too strong for Donald. Scrooge on his hand drank it as if it was
> water.
This came up here some time ago. I made a scan of the situation:
http://www.hut.fi/~pkannine/roopejuo2.jpg
(Paperino e il ciclaliante sperimentale, I TL 371-A)
The Finnish name for the drink is Tulikiven katku or roughly The Smell of
Brimstone. The way the bartender mixes the drink is unforgetable.
> And, even though this is not alcohol-related, I must mention that one of my
> favorite comics EVER is the one where Scrooge is opening a tobacco plantage,
> and have Donald and Fethry doing research for him by picking up cigarette
> ends all over Duckburg to find out what brands are popular. And then, a
> maharaja (or was he a prince?) picks up Donald and rents him to be a hitman.
So they were cigarettes! In the Finnish version Scrooge has Donald and
Fethry collecting bubble gum papers. I knew there was something odd with
the papers they picked up. The story is actually from the same pocket book
as the wine bottle collection story. It is Zio Paperone e i "desperados"
di Paperopoli, I TL 920-A.
There are many more occasions of alcohol in the pocket books. Timo
Ronkainen made an article of alcohol and drugs in Disney comics for the
Finnish Disney-fanzine and I helped to collect their appereances from
pocket books. And it was not a small list. One of the greatest examples is
Il romanzo di un papero povero, I TL 586-A. There it is revealed that
Scrooge has smuggled opium in his youth. And on top of that he had cheated
his partner by drugging him with the very opium they were smuggling and
leaving him on a raft in the middle of the ocean. I don't think that sort
of story could be published or even made these days. But it sure was great
reading.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http://www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"AAUGH! It's a half-hour later than it was half an
hour ago! Run! Run!" -Calvin
Francesco Spreafico
Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge
Message 54 -
2003-07-05 at 22:36:31
Today WDC&S was waiting for me at my local Comic Store, while Uncle Scrooge
was not. They told me it hadn't shipped yet, and that it hopefully will next
week.
Mind you, I'm in Italy, but we generally get US comics on Friday, the same
week they're for sale in the US on Thursday or Wednesday. Do I have to start
worry or can this be normal and I can relax and wait for next week? :-)
BTW I noticed on the Mile High Comics site the blurb for Uncle Scrooge 320:
UNCLE SCROOGE #320
by Various
This issue features a new cover by William Van Horn illustrating his story,
"Fools of the Trade," which leads the book. Also in this issue is a Gyro
Gearloose story by Carl Barks, as well as Scrooge McDuck adventure stories
by Carl Fallberg and Romano Scarpa, and Geoffrey Blum and Daniel Branca!
SC, 7x10, 64pg, FC $6.95
Can anybody tell us about what Scarpa's story it will be? Scarpa back in the
US, it's a little event!
Francesco
http://www.dimensionedelta.net
was not. They told me it hadn't shipped yet, and that it hopefully will next
week.
Mind you, I'm in Italy, but we generally get US comics on Friday, the same
week they're for sale in the US on Thursday or Wednesday. Do I have to start
worry or can this be normal and I can relax and wait for next week? :-)
BTW I noticed on the Mile High Comics site the blurb for Uncle Scrooge 320:
UNCLE SCROOGE #320
by Various
This issue features a new cover by William Van Horn illustrating his story,
"Fools of the Trade," which leads the book. Also in this issue is a Gyro
Gearloose story by Carl Barks, as well as Scrooge McDuck adventure stories
by Carl Fallberg and Romano Scarpa, and Geoffrey Blum and Daniel Branca!
SC, 7x10, 64pg, FC $6.95
Can anybody tell us about what Scarpa's story it will be? Scarpa back in the
US, it's a little event!
Francesco
http://www.dimensionedelta.net
Lars Jensen
Floyd Gottfredson audio interview!!
Message 55 -
2003-07-05 at 23:19:52
Olivier wrote:
>>>>> Floyd Gottfredson Interviewed by Arn Saba in The Comics Journal
>>>>> web site:
>>>>> http://www.tcj.com/listen/listen.html
>
> I've donwloaded the files and will listen to them when I have enought
> time
You recorded them?! How?! I can only get the files as streaming audio.
And I agree: This is great!
Lars
>>>>> Floyd Gottfredson Interviewed by Arn Saba in The Comics Journal
>>>>> web site:
>>>>> http://www.tcj.com/listen/listen.html
>
> I've donwloaded the files and will listen to them when I have enought
> time
You recorded them?! How?! I can only get the files as streaming audio.
And I agree: This is great!
Lars
Francesco Spreafico
Floyd Gottfredson audio interview!!
Message 56 -
2003-07-05 at 23:36:12
Lars Jensen wrote:
> You recorded them?! How?! I can only get the files as streaming audio.
Just right-click them and choose save, it works!
> And I agree: This is great!
Yes, thanks from me too!
--
Francesco
http://www.dimensionedelta.net
> You recorded them?! How?! I can only get the files as streaming audio.
Just right-click them and choose save, it works!
> And I agree: This is great!
Yes, thanks from me too!
--
Francesco
http://www.dimensionedelta.net
Arthur De Wolf
Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge
Message 57 -
2003-07-06 at 00:52:46
Francesco wrote:
> They told me it hadn't shipped yet, and that it hopefully will next
> week. Mind you, I'm in Italy, but we generally get US comics on Friday.
I'm in the Netherlands and I got the new WDC&S two days ago on Thursday and
the new Uncle Scrooge the week before already, on 26 June.
Kind regards,
Arthur
> They told me it hadn't shipped yet, and that it hopefully will next
> week. Mind you, I'm in Italy, but we generally get US comics on Friday.
I'm in the Netherlands and I got the new WDC&S two days ago on Thursday and
the new Uncle Scrooge the week before already, on 26 June.
Kind regards,
Arthur
Arthur De Wolf
Distribution delimnas
Message 58 -
2003-07-06 at 01:04:12
On 27 June Rodney Bowcock wrote:
> Gladstone was selling 6,000-7,000 copies of WDCS and US
> during their last print run.
I wonder how many of those were shipped outside the USA. Does anyone know?
Kind regards,
Arthur
> Gladstone was selling 6,000-7,000 copies of WDCS and US
> during their last print run.
I wonder how many of those were shipped outside the USA. Does anyone know?
Kind regards,
Arthur
Olaf Solstrand
Gemstone's Uncle Scrooge
Message 59 -
2003-07-06 at 08:53:54
> Can anybody tell us about what Scarpa's story it will be? Scarpa back in
the
> US, it's a little event!
>
According to Gemstone F.A.C.T.S. #1:
'"The Big Break-In" is written by Carl Fallberg and drawn by fan favorite
Romano Scarpa. This story features another encounter between Scrooge and
the Beagles. This storyline was originally produced for the Disney studios
in the 1980's. Yet it has not seen print in the U.S. until now.'
According to INDUCKS:
This 15-pages story has story code S 77048. It was printed in Italy in
Almanacco Topolino #296 and Paperino Mese #110 under the title "Zio Paperone
e le suole da scasso". This story was also printed in Scandinavia and
Finland less than a year ago, in weeklies #46-2002 (Donald Duck & Co., Kalle
Anka & C:o, Anders And & Co., Aku Ankka).
And I disagree, Francesco - Scarpa back in the US is not a little event,
it's a GREAT event!
_____________________
Olaf the Blue
Yvan Eht Nioj!
the
> US, it's a little event!
>
According to Gemstone F.A.C.T.S. #1:
'"The Big Break-In" is written by Carl Fallberg and drawn by fan favorite
Romano Scarpa. This story features another encounter between Scrooge and
the Beagles. This storyline was originally produced for the Disney studios
in the 1980's. Yet it has not seen print in the U.S. until now.'
According to INDUCKS:
This 15-pages story has story code S 77048. It was printed in Italy in
Almanacco Topolino #296 and Paperino Mese #110 under the title "Zio Paperone
e le suole da scasso". This story was also printed in Scandinavia and
Finland less than a year ago, in weeklies #46-2002 (Donald Duck & Co., Kalle
Anka & C:o, Anders And & Co., Aku Ankka).
And I disagree, Francesco - Scarpa back in the US is not a little event,
it's a GREAT event!
_____________________
Olaf the Blue
Yvan Eht Nioj!
Olivier
Floyd Gottfredson audio interview!!
Message 60 -
2003-07-06 at 13:25:43
Hi everyone!
Lars regarding the Gottfredson interview:
>>>> You recorded them?! How?! I can only get the files as streaming audio.
Instead of clicking on the link to play the file, just right-click on it
(or whatever it is on Mac) and "Save target as".
The first one (roughly 16 minutes) is 3.66 Mb, the second part (45 minutes)
is 9.47 Mb; once converted to wav files for burning, they're 40.3 Mb & 104
Mb respectively.
You can convert mp3 to wav using NeoAudio (http://www.neonapster.com/), for
instance, and lots of other softwares.
Have a nice day!
Olivier
Lars regarding the Gottfredson interview:
>>>> You recorded them?! How?! I can only get the files as streaming audio.
Instead of clicking on the link to play the file, just right-click on it
(or whatever it is on Mac) and "Save target as".
The first one (roughly 16 minutes) is 3.66 Mb, the second part (45 minutes)
is 9.47 Mb; once converted to wav files for burning, they're 40.3 Mb & 104
Mb respectively.
You can convert mp3 to wav using NeoAudio (http://www.neonapster.com/), for
instance, and lots of other softwares.
Have a nice day!
Olivier