You can easily help do your part by simply avoiding
any French owned
business in your local neighbourhood.
For example, if there is a French owned restaurant, or
cafe, or bakery
(all easily identifiable) simply don't give it your
custom. Never.
This approach will be particulalry devastating to
French owned
businesses outside of France where they cannot rely
upon a lot of
French nationals for patronage. Don't give them your
money. Starve
these people of business revenue, and they will soon
be out of
business. They will have no income. Help make the
French pay for their
arrogant behaviour against the US, UK, Spain,
Australia, and other
nations of the Western Coalition.
It doesn't matter where you are in the world, you can
easily avoid
using French owned businesses. Not just food outlets
and restaurants,
but any business that you know is French owned.
Help destroy French lives, the French deserve this
lesson, a lesson
they will have to live with and remember forever.
Help put French people out of business.
Mornave --- Gary Leach <bangfish at comcast.net> wrote: >
Harry:
>
> > 1. Gladstone needed a separate OK from Disney to
> print albums under a
> > different title.
> > Just like they at first weren't allowed to print
> "Uncle Scrooge"
> > albums (they got a separate licence for that later
> on).
>
> Once Gladstone had a license to print Disney comics
> and albums (again),
> that was all that was required. No separate license
> for Uncle Scrooge
> was necessary. Album title changes were due to the
> U.S. Postal Service
> and their changeable regulations.
>
> > 2. Albums with Grandma Duck and Daisy Duck stories
> only would not sell
> > as well as Donald or Scrooge (or even Gyro).
>
> That, I'm afraid, is one of the main reasons that
> those stories did not
> make it into color albums. Originally the Gladstone
> plan was to do
> everything, but by the time we got around to the
> Daisy and Grandma
> material we were no longer in a tenable position to
> publish what we
> knew would not sell as well as what we had been
> publishing.
>
> > Correct: I read in an interview that Geppi has no
> plans to print
> > "graphic novels" at all.
>
> What this refers to - if we're talking about the
> same interview - is
> the 8 1/2" by 11" album format, which has never
> managed to be terribly
> popular in the U.S. The smaller, 5" by 7 1/2" (or
> thereabouts) trade
> paperback format, though, is very popular, and that
> is what we are
> going into with our 128-page "Take-Along Comics"
> line. The first issue
> ships later this month, and will feature "pocket
> book" style Donald,
> Mickey, and Uncle Scrooge stories that have not been
> published before
> in North America.
>
> The somewhat larger, 6 5/8" by 10 3/16" (or
> thereabouts) trade
> paperback format is also a possibility for a revived
> CBLiC series,
> though, as I might have mentioned here before, no
> formal plans have
> been made as yet.
>
> Gary
>
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Alan Boe
Help destroy all French lives (was DCML Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1
Message 16 -
2003-07-02 at 02:44:18
Alecto
Help destroy all French lives
Message 17 -
2003-07-02 at 03:45:02
> Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 00:44:18 +0100 (BST)
> From: Alan Boe<roland3067 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Help destroy all French lives (was Re: DCML Digest, Vol 5,
> Issue 1
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Message-ID: <20030701234418.21677.qmail at web14512.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> You can easily help do your part by simply avoiding
> any French owned
> business in your local neighbourhood.
<snip>
A Quiz just for you Alan, name the Tony Strobl story that this quote comes from
-
"Go jump in the lake"
Anthony
> From: Alan Boe<roland3067 at yahoo.co.uk>
> Subject: Help destroy all French lives (was Re: DCML Digest, Vol 5,
> Issue 1
> To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
> Message-ID: <20030701234418.21677.qmail at web14512.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> You can easily help do your part by simply avoiding
> any French owned
> business in your local neighbourhood.
<snip>
A Quiz just for you Alan, name the Tony Strobl story that this quote comes from
-
"Go jump in the lake"
Anthony
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Lurking period over!
Message 18 -
2003-07-02 at 03:58:15
Hi all!
Hi have decided to end my lurking-period. The reasons are:
a)
It didn't looked good when I "delurked" from time to time. Some serious
persons even joked with it and said that I gave the word "lurking" a new
meaning.
b)
I now feel ready to address DCML in a polite way that won't start any
unnecessary flame wars here.
Greetings:
Sigvald
Hi have decided to end my lurking-period. The reasons are:
a)
It didn't looked good when I "delurked" from time to time. Some serious
persons even joked with it and said that I gave the word "lurking" a new
meaning.
b)
I now feel ready to address DCML in a polite way that won't start any
unnecessary flame wars here.
Greetings:
Sigvald
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Bad timed campaign
Message 19 -
2003-07-02 at 04:15:31
Alan Boe <roland3067 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> You can easily help do your part by simply
> avoiding any French owned business in your
> local neighbourhood... Help make the
> French pay for their arrogant behaviour
> against the US, UK, Spain, Australia, and
> other nations of the Western Coalition...
First: this is really off-topic!
Second: you are forgetting that he French were not alone. The Germans, the
Russians, the Belgians and the Swedes was supporing them strongly.
Third: this is bad timing - this issue was hot in April, not now!
Finally: even though I don't see this posting being appropriate for DCML, I
hope that it explains why I mentioned this topic when Don Rosa's relations
to Picsou were debated in April.
PS! This is *no attempt* of defending my actions at that time - it was still
*wrong* of me to come up with those speculations around DRs relations with
Picosou. I am still very sorry about that careless goof of mine.
Regards
Sigvald
> You can easily help do your part by simply
> avoiding any French owned business in your
> local neighbourhood... Help make the
> French pay for their arrogant behaviour
> against the US, UK, Spain, Australia, and
> other nations of the Western Coalition...
First: this is really off-topic!
Second: you are forgetting that he French were not alone. The Germans, the
Russians, the Belgians and the Swedes was supporing them strongly.
Third: this is bad timing - this issue was hot in April, not now!
Finally: even though I don't see this posting being appropriate for DCML, I
hope that it explains why I mentioned this topic when Don Rosa's relations
to Picsou were debated in April.
PS! This is *no attempt* of defending my actions at that time - it was still
*wrong* of me to come up with those speculations around DRs relations with
Picosou. I am still very sorry about that careless goof of mine.
Regards
Sigvald
Fabio Blanco
Help destroy all French lives
Message 20 -
2003-07-02 at 04:39:53
Yeah! I suscribed to Picsou in January and received nothing yet!!
Seriously talking, this man really know about "arrogant" people...
peace and love
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Seriously talking, this man really know about "arrogant" people...
peace and love
FABIO
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
ZeldasTriforce
Some Observations After Buying US 319
Message 21 -
2003-07-02 at 07:09:51
Hi everyone! I've visited the DCML for a long time and I finally decided to
subscribe.
Well, today I went to my local comics shop. I had only been there a few
times, so I didn't know if they had Disney comics or not. But lo, what do my eyes
see upon entering the shop, but an advertisement on the door saying Disney
comics are back. I took that as an encouraging sign. When I asked about Disney
comics, the man showed me to a back-issue area(which had a lot of 80's/90's
Gladstone for cheap that I'll have to buy later). No, I told him, I meant the new
Disney comics, he pointed to a wall, and there was a lone copy of US 319. For
the first time in 6 years, I had purchased a new Disney comic. Yay!
But alas, this story is not all joy and light. I talked to the man working at
the shop about Disney comics and how they were being percieved, what their
future chances were. He basically said that the comics were too expensive for
kids to buy, that only a few adults were purchasing them. That they(Gemstone)
were in danger of pricing themselves out of the market. He blamed
Disney(thinking that perhaps they were the reason behind the high prices. He hoped that the
prices would come down soon. At any rate, he talked them up to me, saying
they'd be coming in every month, so that shop at least plans on continuing to sell
Disney comics.
Now I'm a Disney comic diehard, but from a practical perspective, even though
I've enjoyed US 319, I can't truthfully say that it's worth the $7. I just
hope Gemstone hasn't had any wild expectations for US/WDC, because from what I
can tell, only the dedicated fans(adults) will buy these comics. Hopefully t
hings will turn around in September when the two $3 comics are released. Because
I just can't see US/WDC doing anything except sell to the fairly small
audience of adult Disney comics fans who were going to buy the comics anyway
regardless of the price. I don't see these titles gaining many new fans at all.
And to Don Rosa/John Lustig: Great work! I loved "The Dutchman's Secret" and
"Family of Fore."
subscribe.
Well, today I went to my local comics shop. I had only been there a few
times, so I didn't know if they had Disney comics or not. But lo, what do my eyes
see upon entering the shop, but an advertisement on the door saying Disney
comics are back. I took that as an encouraging sign. When I asked about Disney
comics, the man showed me to a back-issue area(which had a lot of 80's/90's
Gladstone for cheap that I'll have to buy later). No, I told him, I meant the new
Disney comics, he pointed to a wall, and there was a lone copy of US 319. For
the first time in 6 years, I had purchased a new Disney comic. Yay!
But alas, this story is not all joy and light. I talked to the man working at
the shop about Disney comics and how they were being percieved, what their
future chances were. He basically said that the comics were too expensive for
kids to buy, that only a few adults were purchasing them. That they(Gemstone)
were in danger of pricing themselves out of the market. He blamed
Disney(thinking that perhaps they were the reason behind the high prices. He hoped that the
prices would come down soon. At any rate, he talked them up to me, saying
they'd be coming in every month, so that shop at least plans on continuing to sell
Disney comics.
Now I'm a Disney comic diehard, but from a practical perspective, even though
I've enjoyed US 319, I can't truthfully say that it's worth the $7. I just
hope Gemstone hasn't had any wild expectations for US/WDC, because from what I
can tell, only the dedicated fans(adults) will buy these comics. Hopefully t
hings will turn around in September when the two $3 comics are released. Because
I just can't see US/WDC doing anything except sell to the fairly small
audience of adult Disney comics fans who were going to buy the comics anyway
regardless of the price. I don't see these titles gaining many new fans at all.
And to Don Rosa/John Lustig: Great work! I loved "The Dutchman's Secret" and
"Family of Fore."
Lgiver
"Back to the Klondike" -- 2 pages missing from linked version
Message 22 -
2003-07-02 at 10:22:38
KUR posted a link to Gladstone's Album #4 reprint of
"Back to the Klondike", with 30 pages. Harry Flux
replied that it was published with 32 pages, and that
2 pages must have been skipped when scanned. That is
exactly right; I compared the on-line version to
Gladstone's second album reprint, and indeed they are
identical pages 1 thru 23; pages 24 and 25 of the 32-page
version are missing from the linked website version.
Otherwise, they are identical. Page 24 shows Goldie
releasing her boxes of mosquitoes which attack Donald and
Scrooge, and page 25 shows HDL disarming Goldie.
These 2 pages were part of the original 27-page
published version---nothing was censored from this part.
------Larry Giver.
"Back to the Klondike", with 30 pages. Harry Flux
replied that it was published with 32 pages, and that
2 pages must have been skipped when scanned. That is
exactly right; I compared the on-line version to
Gladstone's second album reprint, and indeed they are
identical pages 1 thru 23; pages 24 and 25 of the 32-page
version are missing from the linked website version.
Otherwise, they are identical. Page 24 shows Goldie
releasing her boxes of mosquitoes which attack Donald and
Scrooge, and page 25 shows HDL disarming Goldie.
These 2 pages were part of the original 27-page
published version---nothing was censored from this part.
------Larry Giver.
Rodney-selfhelpbikeco
WDCS 634
Message 23 -
2003-07-02 at 15:59:52
If your local area was like my local area and copies of WDCS 634 were not available last week, they should be today.
My local shop tells me that they did not ship from the Columbus warehouse on time for unknown reasons.
My local shop tells me that they did not ship from the Columbus warehouse on time for unknown reasons.
Didier Ghez
Story of Editorial Abril in Argentina
Message 24 -
2003-07-02 at 17:46:53
Hi,
I am preparing an article about the Disney publications that Abril released in Argentina in the '40s and I was wondering if anyone on this list had access to the article published in 1980 by Guillermo Saccomanno and Carlos Trillo about "Abril in Argentina" (in the book Historia de la Historieta Argentina, Ediciones Record).
Thanks a million in advance for your help.
Didier
I am preparing an article about the Disney publications that Abril released in Argentina in the '40s and I was wondering if anyone on this list had access to the article published in 1980 by Guillermo Saccomanno and Carlos Trillo about "Abril in Argentina" (in the book Historia de la Historieta Argentina, Ediciones Record).
Thanks a million in advance for your help.
Didier
Lars Jensen
Eega Beeva (was: Moby Duck, Mad Madam Mim and others)
Message 25 -
2003-07-02 at 20:32:12
Stefan Persson wrote:
> In the Italian stories [Eega Beeva] is usually considered an alien, as
> opposed to Gottfredson's stories, where Eega is a man from the future.
> Does anyone know why the Italians changed that?
I can make a guess, but that's pretty much it. Maybe one of our Italian
members knows why?
Lars
> In the Italian stories [Eega Beeva] is usually considered an alien, as
> opposed to Gottfredson's stories, where Eega is a man from the future.
> Does anyone know why the Italians changed that?
I can make a guess, but that's pretty much it. Maybe one of our Italian
members knows why?
Lars
Lars Jensen
Time machine
Message 26 -
2003-07-02 at 20:32:38
On May 25, mateusz lis wrote:
> In D 96116 (art by Marco Rota) in 6 panel, in Gyro's workshop, there
> is a small machine, which seems to be the one from DD Time Travel
> series. My question is: was this vehicle shrunk in any episode of this
> series? Or maybe it is a project?
I suspect it was a model. As far as I know, the time machine is still
under repair, after Oona crashed it in D 93505.
Lars
> In D 96116 (art by Marco Rota) in 6 panel, in Gyro's workshop, there
> is a small machine, which seems to be the one from DD Time Travel
> series. My question is: was this vehicle shrunk in any episode of this
> series? Or maybe it is a project?
I suspect it was a model. As far as I know, the time machine is still
under repair, after Oona crashed it in D 93505.
Lars
Lars Jensen
Disney comics in the Eastern block during the cold war
Message 27 -
2003-07-02 at 20:33:23
On May 24, mateusz lis wrote:
>> Were any the Polish comics
>> redrawn versions of other stories?
>
> I think that it was totally Polish work.
>
> Here is a scan:
> http://gildia.pl/teksty/janusz_pawlak/grafa/myszka
> I know, it's terrific...
Actually, I think it looks *great*! Totally different from any other
Mickey story I've ever seen and totally off-model ...but still great in
its own way.
Do you know who the creators of the illegal Polish Mickey comics were?
Does current Polish Disney material ever refer to the illegal stuff (in
articles and such), or is it ignored? Were the illegal stories
considered underground or were they officially approved by the state?
Were any characters created especially for these? And do the illegal
creators have any kind of connection to the current Disney comics in
Poland?
Lars
>> Were any the Polish comics
>> redrawn versions of other stories?
>
> I think that it was totally Polish work.
>
> Here is a scan:
> http://gildia.pl/teksty/janusz_pawlak/grafa/myszka
> I know, it's terrific...
Actually, I think it looks *great*! Totally different from any other
Mickey story I've ever seen and totally off-model ...but still great in
its own way.
Do you know who the creators of the illegal Polish Mickey comics were?
Does current Polish Disney material ever refer to the illegal stuff (in
articles and such), or is it ignored? Were the illegal stories
considered underground or were they officially approved by the state?
Were any characters created especially for these? And do the illegal
creators have any kind of connection to the current Disney comics in
Poland?
Lars
Lars Jensen
How it hapend ? (Moby Duck, Mad Madam Mim and others)
Message 28 -
2003-07-02 at 20:36:23
KUR/Maciek wrote:
> In storys wich was publish in Poland "Mad Madam Mim" is a good wich
> from Duckburg ho olweys help other people, enemy of the Beagle Boys.
> But as I read in the Internet and hear in other storys (theat wasent
> publishet in Poland, jest) she is a evil wich, a villant, she helps
> Magica De Spell, Beagle Boys, Hazel The Wich or some times Phantom
> Blot.
>
> I never cud understud How it hapend theat are two versions of Mim :
> Evil and good.
To which Stefan Persson answered:
> Well, the original version (i.e. as in the movie) is *only* evil.
Here's the deal:
In the feature "The Sword in the Stone", Madam Mim was a strongly
characterized opponent to good-guy Merlin -- and was clearly proud of
her evil witchiness. Her appearance being one of the high points of the
movie, it was decided to spin her into comics.
In comics, her personality became less focused. In American books, she
was shown to be either somewhat less evil (imprisoning Tinker Bell and
collaborating with the Phantom Blot, but not actively trying to kill
anybody as in the movie) or merely highly egotistical (magically forcing
unwilling guests to appear at her birthday party). In the Studio
production, meant for non-American use, she lived with Magica in a
run-down castle and once in awhile made plans for how to get Scrooge's
Dime from him -- and that was the extent of her "evilness" there.
As American production with Mim stopped, other countries took over. In
many stories, Madam Mim over the 80s and 90s gradually changed into a
nice old woman who, using a magic wand, would help children against
bullies. Not quite knowing how to handle her wand (which would
frequently break), she wouldn't be that effectice -- but at least she
would try to be helpful.
I find that boring. Having Mim turn into a copy of Hanna-Barbera's
Winsome Witch was in my opinion a bad development. A few years ago,
though, Mim sort-of returned to her roots. I haven't seen enough of
anybody else's material to form an opinion, but in my stories, at least,
Mimsy is extremely self-confident and egotistical with no qualms about
using her limitless (natural) magic for her own purposes. No, she's not
evil -- it's hard to make five-year-olds identify with somebody who
wants to kill Jiminy Cricket -- but she certainly isn't a goodie-goodie.
Lars
> In storys wich was publish in Poland "Mad Madam Mim" is a good wich
> from Duckburg ho olweys help other people, enemy of the Beagle Boys.
> But as I read in the Internet and hear in other storys (theat wasent
> publishet in Poland, jest) she is a evil wich, a villant, she helps
> Magica De Spell, Beagle Boys, Hazel The Wich or some times Phantom
> Blot.
>
> I never cud understud How it hapend theat are two versions of Mim :
> Evil and good.
To which Stefan Persson answered:
> Well, the original version (i.e. as in the movie) is *only* evil.
Here's the deal:
In the feature "The Sword in the Stone", Madam Mim was a strongly
characterized opponent to good-guy Merlin -- and was clearly proud of
her evil witchiness. Her appearance being one of the high points of the
movie, it was decided to spin her into comics.
In comics, her personality became less focused. In American books, she
was shown to be either somewhat less evil (imprisoning Tinker Bell and
collaborating with the Phantom Blot, but not actively trying to kill
anybody as in the movie) or merely highly egotistical (magically forcing
unwilling guests to appear at her birthday party). In the Studio
production, meant for non-American use, she lived with Magica in a
run-down castle and once in awhile made plans for how to get Scrooge's
Dime from him -- and that was the extent of her "evilness" there.
As American production with Mim stopped, other countries took over. In
many stories, Madam Mim over the 80s and 90s gradually changed into a
nice old woman who, using a magic wand, would help children against
bullies. Not quite knowing how to handle her wand (which would
frequently break), she wouldn't be that effectice -- but at least she
would try to be helpful.
I find that boring. Having Mim turn into a copy of Hanna-Barbera's
Winsome Witch was in my opinion a bad development. A few years ago,
though, Mim sort-of returned to her roots. I haven't seen enough of
anybody else's material to form an opinion, but in my stories, at least,
Mimsy is extremely self-confident and egotistical with no qualms about
using her limitless (natural) magic for her own purposes. No, she's not
evil -- it's hard to make five-year-olds identify with somebody who
wants to kill Jiminy Cricket -- but she certainly isn't a goodie-goodie.
Lars
Lars Jensen
Moby Duck, Mad Madam Mim and others
Message 29 -
2003-07-02 at 20:41:57
Rich Bellacera wrote:
> I miss [Percy and Patricia Pig(g)] [...] as
> familiar "supporting" characters. I like to see familiar
> faces popping up.
OK, if you're talking about Percy and Patricia walking by in the
background or appearing when Mickey's entire neighborhood throws a
party... Then yes, I'd like to see them, too. I don't think they should
be used as actual personalities, though. Part of their appeal (to me,
anyway) is that they can be used when one for whatever reason *doesn't*
want to use one of the major secondary characters.
Lars
> I miss [Percy and Patricia Pig(g)] [...] as
> familiar "supporting" characters. I like to see familiar
> faces popping up.
OK, if you're talking about Percy and Patricia walking by in the
background or appearing when Mickey's entire neighborhood throws a
party... Then yes, I'd like to see them, too. I don't think they should
be used as actual personalities, though. Part of their appeal (to me,
anyway) is that they can be used when one for whatever reason *doesn't*
want to use one of the major secondary characters.
Lars
Cord Wiljes
Off-topic mails
Message 30 -
2003-07-02 at 22:25:23
This is just a short reminder that off-topic discussions can be moved to
http://www.dcml-talk.org
If an existing discussion gets off-topic or if you want to discuss an
off-topic posting to the mailing list, a short notificiation to the
mailing list informing about the move to the off-topic forum would be
O.K., I believe.
What do you think? Please post answers to this mail here:
http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=154&t=154
Cord
http://www.dcml-talk.org
If an existing discussion gets off-topic or if you want to discuss an
off-topic posting to the mailing list, a short notificiation to the
mailing list informing about the move to the off-topic forum would be
O.K., I believe.
What do you think? Please post answers to this mail here:
http://www.dcml-talk.org/read.php?f=1&i=154&t=154
Cord