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Joseph Farrell
These are all good points,but another reason for Walt
Kelly's fading profile may be the topicality of so
much of his work. While Barks' Duck stories are
timeless and appeal to a worldwide audience, much of
Kelly's output seems pointless outside of its time and
place. Very funny material like his "Jack Acid Society
Black Book" would probably just puzzle readers ---
particularly non-Americans of several decades later
--- who have no knowledge of the groups and
individuals that are being satirized. Obviously, this
is not a problem with Barks.

Joe Farrell

In a message dated 7/13/2003 10:49:08 AM Eastern
Daylight Time,
cord at wiljes.de writes:

> IMO Kelly can and should be recognized as one of the
giants of the field.
> But today he is no longer popular with the general
public.
>
of course,
here in the USA when you are dead your popularity
plumets...(with a handful
of exceptions in the perfoming arts - the usa audience
only likes modern
things)
and Kelly has been dead for several decades - and he
didnt do tons of
liscencing work to keep his characthers alive....
this still doesnt dimish his enormous
popularity then, and the
still there fanbase he has

> But then how could he? The Fantagraphics edition is
out of print and
> foreign editions of his works are scarce probably
because his humor is difficult to
> translate. Only very few of his strips have been
printed here in Germany.
>
even worse: the Simon and Shuster books are all out
of print --
(and some of the Fantagraphics books may still be
in print)
the Fantagraphics were just small potatoes in
terms of sales and more
importantly distribution through book stores. Its
possible that the number
of S&S books available used is all the market can bear
....thus making it
unlikely for new reprints of those books

on the other hand, his record album is back in
print and available -
through Amazon and the other usual outlets

Hey Don Rosa, can we expect a musical CD from you???

steven rowe

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Stefan Persson
>From: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
>Reply-To: "Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr." <sigvald at duckburg.dk>
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Insane Swedes
>Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 4:17:23 +0100

>If Don Rosa is so da**ed important over there why have they seen less Don
>Rosa stories in print than in Denmark and in Norway?

Notice that the new weekly contains a previously unpublished Rosa story: the
2-pager AR 118.

>Anyway IMO NAFS(K) should try to do something with the insane situation in
>the Swedish used comics market.

So what do you think that NAFS(k) should try to do? Print more used comics?

Stefan

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Fabio Blanco
I really admire your sense of the pathologic.
get fun

FABIO

> Hi all!
>
> As I told you yesterday, I am going into lurk-modus again. This time I
will
> try even harder to avoid un-lurking in the lurk-modus period. This time I
> will stay in lurk-modus until I am back from my trip to Denmark - that
means
> Saturday August 2nd. Besides my respect for Don Rosa and his very clear
hint
> about go lurking again, I also do this in order to talk to my Danish
friends
> about the apparent communication-problems between me and many DCMLers
> recently.
>
> Have a nice summer!
>
> Sigvald
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>
Gary Leach
Harry, Larry, and anyone else interested:

Seems the "censorship" in Gemstone's version of "Majarajah Donald" is
even more subtle than I suspected. I gave one hint, that it's in the
dialogue, and here's another: nothing's been added or deleted.

Gary
Arie Fachrisal
> From: "Cord Wiljes" <cord at wiljes.de>
> To this readers' list not only Germans but many international visitors
> (expecially from the U.S.) contributed, so I suppose it can be called
> international (with the exception of Asia).

What Cord said is true. Most American comic books artists arent well known
here in Asia, with the exception of the superheroes comic book
artists/writers.

Speaking of Walt Kelly and others, i have read Walt Kelly's name more in
other comic-related magazine but have never even once see Barks, Rosa names
in the mags, with the exception of a specific old Hero Illustrated magazine
that interviewed Don Rosa and maybe Comic Book Marketplace (never had the
chance to read CBM).

I only have the chance to read Wizard magazine here. And in this so-called
"Guide to comics", i've never read anything about Barks, Rosa or even Disney
comics in general, not even mentioning of their names. With the return of
Disney comics in USA, i was hoping their recent issues will spare a
spotlight about it but ...

Anyway, here's a new Barks quiz:
"Havent we taken enough guff from this tough?"
(I practically laugh out loud when i read this sentence first time in the
story)

Keep On Quacking,
Arie Fachrisal (not from Singapore) and a guy named Joe from Singapore
Kriton Kyrimis
DANIEL:

>>I'm sure you've had dinner at some relative who would not be convinced
>>that you had eaten enough if you'd only had one helping!
>
> No. This was not the case.

I wasn't referring to the particular dinner you had with your American friend,
but to having dinner at one's relatives in general. I remember, e.g., having
dinner at my grandmother's: after being stuffed with all sorts of food, she
would then proclaim: "I know you like blue cheese, so I got half a kilo for
you", probably expecting me to eat it all, before she served dessert!

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
SANTIAGO to me, 10-07-2003:

> "Beat it, you clammy ragbag! What's the idea?"
> Which Barks story?

Can you give a small hint?

--- Dani?l
Daniel Van Eijmeren
In private, I've been asked the following question:

"I have an original copy of " Coo-Coo " and according to the
Bruce Hamilton website there is only 1 known copy in the world."

Does someone know where exactly this information by Bruce Hamilton
can be found? Or can someone quote the information? I couldn't find
it at http://www.brucehamilton.com.

What I would like to know is:

- Does the information mean that only one issue number exists?
(In other words, there's no "Coo-Coo No. 2"?)

- Does the information mean that there's only one copy of "Coo-Coo
No. 1", because ALL other copies of "Coo-Coo No. 1" got lost during
the years?

- Does the information mean both? (Only one issue number exists,
which also is the ONLY surviving copy, because ALL other copies
got lost during the years?)

I find the first meaning most likely, but I would like to know for
sure.

--- Dani?l
Stefan Persson
>From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
>To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
>Subject: Coo-Coo question (Barks)
>Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2003 13:35:15 +0200
>
>In private, I've been asked the following question:
>
>"I have an original copy of " Coo-Coo " and according to the
>Bruce Hamilton website there is only 1 known copy in the world."
>
>Does someone know where exactly this information by Bruce Hamilton
>can be found? Or can someone quote the information? I couldn't find
>it at http://www.brucehamilton.com.

I made a Google search:

http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Google-s%C3%B6kning&as_epq=Coo-Coo&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brucehamilton.com%2F

Google didn't find it either, meaning that it isn't there.

>What I would like to know is:
>
>- Does the information mean that only one issue number exists?
>(In other words, there's no "Coo-Coo No. 2"?)
>
>- Does the information mean that there's only one copy of "Coo-Coo
>No. 1", because ALL other copies of "Coo-Coo No. 1" got lost during
>the years?
>
>- Does the information mean both? (Only one issue number exists,
>which also is the ONLY surviving copy, because ALL other copies
>got lost during the years?)
>
>I find the first meaning most likely, but I would like to know for
>sure.

This guy's message means the second, but it is highly unlikely that this
actually is the case. It is likely that the person who asked you the
question has misunderstood something.

Stefan

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Kriton Kyrimis
> - Does the information mean both? (Only one issue number exists,
> which also is the ONLY surviving copy, because ALL other copies
> got lost during the years?)

This would actually appear to be the case. According to
http://www.brucehamilton.com/hamilton/coocoo.html:

"There never was a second issue, and the first must have been distributed in
an extremely small quantity, as there is only one copy known to exist today."

If what you have is not the facsimile to which the above page refers, you
probably have something very rare and valuable in your hands!

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Thomas Pryds Lauritsen
From: "Daniel van Eijmeren" <dve at kabelfoon.nl>
>> Does someone know where exactly this information by Bruce Hamilton
>> can be found? Or can someone quote the information? I couldn't find
>> it at http://www.brucehamilton.com.

Stefan Persson wrote:
> I made a Google search:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&num=10&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&btnG=Google-s%C3%B6kning&as_epq=Coo-Coo&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.brucehamilton.com%2F
>
> Google didn't find it either, meaning that it isn't there.

I'm not sure why your search failed, but this one does give a few results:

http://www.google.com/search?q=Coo-Coo+site%3Abrucehamilton.com

One of those is http://www.brucehamilton.com/hamilton/coocoo.html where
the following quote is taken from: "There never was a second issue, and
the first must have been distributed in an extremely small quantity, as
there is only one copy known to exist today."

Thomas
Arie Fachrisal
> From: "Olivier" <mouse-ducks at wanadoo.fr>
> >>>"Howdy, Bud! I'm from the South, myself -- south Burbank!"
>
> DDA 223, "Lost in the Andes".
> Surely one of Barks' best lines.
> Gum anyone?

Sure, i was here to kick @ss and chew bubble gum. and i was all out of
bubble gum.

Keep On Chewing,
Arie Fachrisal who wonders how a square bubble would look like in real life.
Goofy313g
Hi!
I updated my trees section :
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/index.html
but i still miss one
it has been published in "Die tollsten Geschichten von Donald Duck 137"
if anyone could provide a scan or at least informations about the author, the
appearing characters etc, that'd be great

here you can see a little pic of this tree on the cover of the magazine, but
it's too little to understand anything :
http://www.coverscans.com/view2.asp?image=1731

Gilles
H.W.Fluks
Gilles:

> Subject: Duck Family Tree (need help from dutch fellows)
> but i still miss one
> it has been published in "Die tollsten Geschichten von
> Donald Duck 137"

Maybe you better ask help from *German* DCML members. 8-)

--Harry.
Goofy313g
In my last message, I mean I need help from German members, of course
Gilles
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