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RICH BELLACERA to me, 18-07-2003

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Hello all,

Thank you for your nice welcome and I am very
impressed that an answer came so quickly, from two
people! I only came across it by one of those
coincidences that seem to happen. I had taped "Citizen
Cane" when it was on TV because it was on too late to
watch. I then watched the tape soon after reading "His
Majesty McDuck" (or it may have been the other way
around) when the story first came out, and noting the
similarities, had the tape to replay to confirm them.

I have since learned that that movie was a favourite
(among others) of Don Rosa's, and as you point out the
introduction to LoS No. 12, he made it pretty obvious.
Still, I thought that the refererence to the Cane
archives might be hard to spot - well done.

Thanks too for clearing up my question about the
sending of the emails as either individuals or
digests.

Mark

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Gilles, the Van Horn tree came as an "extra" in the deluxe edition of
"Donald Duck: 50 Years of Happy Frustration" (along with other "extras",
like a seial number edition, a eer from Carl Barks, and a letter from
Clarence "Ducky" Nash and one from Jack Hannah).

Oh, and something that might interest you also, is from the book called
"The Life of Donald Duck" copyright 1941 by Walt Disney Productions it
talks about the ancestry of Donald and his "forgotten" ancestor the
great Tet en Ka'duck, a one time Sultan of all the Ducks in Egypt. and
they have a picture of him, too.

Daniel, sorry about the the "scrubbed" e-mails, but I think I fixed them
now. The later e-mails seemed to post fine.

Rich Bellacera

Hi all

Dani?l:
>
>> (only joking - I'd enjoy actually meeting the dutch editors -
>> I actually have heard that they are great duckfans, maybe just
>> not that big Rosa-fans. )
I repeat that - i would like to meet them so we could clear up this
long-time misunderstandment, as it probably is.
>
>
>Don Rosa's stories are frequently published in The Netherlands.
>The editors seem to desire to publish all stories.
>They are the main stories of many montly Donald Duck Extra.
>They are reprinted in *albums*, which rarely happens to artists
>other than Carl Barks.
>So, what MORE is needed to be equivalent to a "big Rosa-fan"?
I'm being to hard on them - but I just see the different monthlies in
Europe, like Zio Paperone, Donald Duck Sonderheft and Komix -
and compare them to DD Extra - There's nothing much wrong with
the extra, when you look at it as itself (heck, ours is even worse!)
- and the mayoirty of the dutch readers are in that situation.

But when one can compare it looks strange to see a nice magazine -
but with covers made by another atist, or maybe just traced by
another artist. The story inside is printed in one part - but the version
that is meant for publishing in several issues is printed.
Those two things are the only things I see wrong with the printing of Rosa
in the extra - it's not much, but it's there.
But all that doesn't mean that the editors can't be big Rosa-fans -
I wouldn't know, I have no contact with them.
>
>The Dutch editors have also used improper versions of Barks's
>stories (like missing panels, or even pages).
Does this make the whole thing better, if I may so ask?
Rosa is, maybe to say the most perhaps the heir - an apprentice who
didn't meet the "wizard" untill 1998. -
Barks is, in the yes of many the big master - and they treat the versions
of his stories with the same care? Is it impossible to find the original
prints,
so they could reconstruct what deisappered under resume-boxes or
put in again the pages that are gone? The italian publishers does this -
so why can't the dutch.

>They sometimes change Barks's words in the translations.
Well - translators often do that.
Actually i'd like to know about the dutch tradition of translating!
I've heard about Erika Fuchs and Peter Daibenzeiher (Germany), Per Westrin
and Stefan Di?s (Sweden), Sonja Rindom and Niels S?ndergaard (Denmark)
and i don't remember more names right now. These people have had different
traditions of translating - either faithful to the original, or maybe more
independant
How are the dutch translators?

>They have used/re-used odd colouring for Barks's art.
Well, I wouldn't accept that happily -
>
>They redraw Barks's covers.
>Maybe this means they're not much of a Barks fan, either?
I again can't know about that before I meat them.
But it sure doesn't make the case better that they treat the stories of
the master
in the same way as they do with "The new Duckmaster" (That's the name of
a homepage)

But you dutch people have told me before they have this tradition of
redrawng
covers and other things - Only the first couple of albums with
barks-stories had Barks-
covers in Netherland, then it was stopped - Why is that? I'd like to hear
the reason for this
I don't believe that they don't find the many covers that Barks and others
have made
not good enough?
>
>Here on DCML, the Dutch editors seem to have a bad reputation when
>it comes to Don Rosa. This has been going on for years, as long as
>I can remember. Do they really deserve that bad reputation, given
>the efforts I've just mentioned? Or are there other reasons?
There sure isn't anything more in my criticism than the fact that
*I* think they could put a little more effort into some of these things.
Some of the other dutch Rosa-readers I've mailed with think the same...

But having said all this I do have an almost complete Rosa-collection in
dutch,
why that's why I know about the publications. I'm only missing the newest
extras
and albums.

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist

December 17, last year, I was looking for details about a Greek printing
of Pluto Saves the Ship. Kriton was able to give me this info below.

> THOMAS:
>>In my collection I have "found" a greek reprint of Pluto Saves the Ship
>>in B5 format.
>>This seems not to be indexed in Inducks, however, so I wondered where
>>exactly this issue comes from.

Kriton Kyrimis wrote:
> I believe it was given as a gift to subscribers of Komix. This is why
> there was no price on it; you could only get it for free, along with
> your subscription.

Unfortunately, noone seemed to know which issue of KOMIX it came with,
though, and the issue is not indexed in INDUCKS, either. Therefore, if
someone knows, I'd appreciate it much if they'd share the info with me.

Scans of the first pages can be found here:
http://server.cout.dk/gr_pluto_001.jpg
http://server.cout.dk/gr_pluto_002.jpg
http://server.cout.dk/gr_pluto_003.jpg

Thanks in advance,
Thomas

Barks's art-only "see the sun 10c" cover (DD 71) shows a rather
dangerous scene, of the category "don't try this at home". Donald
gets burned by the sun's rays as they pass through a telescope.
(http://www.seriesam.com/barks/dc_dd071_sm.jpg)

The main focus of the cover seems to be rear end humour. Donald's
rear end is burned by the sun. But wouldn't the same thing happen
if you pay 10 cents to put your EYES behind the telescope's lens,
to have a detailed look at the sun? Looking into the sun *without*
a telescope already damages the eyes, and will result in blindness.
(A sun-protected telescope won't burn the eyes or the rear end, but
then the cover's joke wouldn't work.)

Was this danger still unknown in the early 1960s? Is that likely?

In other instances, the editors asked Barks to change drawings
because they showed scenes that kids might imitate. This seems
such a drawing to me. Did the editor let this one slip through?
Or was there a general lack of knowlegde about the sun's danger
at that time?

--- Dani?l

I have never seen a issue numbered #2, but that of course does not mean it does not exist. I do have an original issue of #1 which apparently takes the count of existing copies too at least three!
Best...Dennis

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Hi all! :)

I thought you might be interested in the sales stats for WDC 634 and US 319
for June. Though apparently these are really the stats for orders made by comic
book stores, but it's surely safe to assume that most of those copies were
sold.

193. Uncle Scrooge 319 (8,215)
217. Walt Disney's Comics And Stories 634 (4,718)
<A HREF="http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=105988">

http://www.newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=105988</A>

All in all, not too bad considering the price they were being sold for.

Derek Smith