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Alipio D'Oliveira Coelho
At 10:53 03/10/96 +0100, you wrote:

>Date: Wed, 2 Oct 1996 23:38:10 -0400 (EDT)
>From: markoff <(Email removed)>
>To: (Email removed)
>Subject: Countries not in database
>
>The Disney Comics Database has no indexes for the following countries:
>Norway, France, Italy, Brazil, and Greece, and the indexes for Finland and
>Germany are filled with gaps. Will that be fixed next time? (Hello, ...
Alipio, ...?)

MARKOFF:
Hello! I am still here, but with a lot of troubles in my family, so
I am actually only lurking... (My mother-in-law was submited to coronary
artery surgery with lots of complications!). As soon as possible, I will
send data for Arthur Homepage and get contact with Hugo - from Argentina -
to help us with DC published there. It is more easy speak Spanish than
English to me. So, guys, take it easy, but be sure that soon or late I will
send news from here... before Xmas!

DON:
I can send you DC from Brazil with your stories. The problem is that
they don't give credits to the artists, they only print the code. But, if
you want, I can send at each DC published the codes from the stories and you
chose the comics. Anyone who want Brazilian DC,just e-mail me!
Bye! Alipio
Don Rosa
MIKKO:
While you're trying to find a "Guardians" poster for Michael, see if you can
find ME one, too. That's a souvenir I failed to get in Finland.

ALL:
I haven't been asked about this, but it occurs to me that my fellow
"computer geeks" out there might find this interesting. It was a major
development for me recently when Byron Erickson finally got on-line so that
I could communicate with him over the Internet. It's not that I didn't send
him a FAX whenever I needed to, but Internet communication seems much
easier, is free and is also safer and more private than office FAXes. But as
of these last few weeks, I have, for the first time, sent Byron my latest
script (for the 50th Anniversary Uncle $crooge editions) in story-board form
completely over the Internet. (The truth is that it was done by my local
computer-guru, Dan Shane.) FAXing something like that would cost me about
$30 and deliver bad copies... FEDEXing scripts cost even more and took 2-3
days to get there... now the transmission of copies of these hand-made
simulated comic-book pages is perfect, instantaneous and free! Another giant
step in computer-comic history for me! Byron will also send me his finished
transcriptions of my scripts by Internet, so that I can glance at them to
see if there are any misunderstandings of my intents or something. And this
is all happening right along the corners of this Mailing List... it may be
out of your sight, but the Internet is now a VERY integral part of
everything Byron and I do now.
(But NO, I don't plan to ever DRAW on a computer! That would be like
substituting a nutrient pill for a rib-eye steak. Ecch.)
And by the way, Byron seemed to be pleased with this 50th Anniversary story.
It's 28 pages and is titled "A Little Something SPECIAL". I started drawing
it today. And that's all I'll say about it until you see it next summer.
Dan Shane
HARALD:

I don't care to hear about astrology mixed in with Disney character
descriptions. TV GUIDE here in America lost all its credibility when it
introduced an astrology forecast column. Too many people put stock in this
pseudo-science, and any treatment of it as remotely valuable or real makes
the situation worse. Its roots are in divination and false religion,
neither of which belong in a discussion of family comics, in my opinion.

I'm not a "born-again" fundamentalist Christian, and I don't have any
problem reading about Magica's pranks and potions -- they're strictly
make-believe. But, any mini-treatises on the influence of heavenly bodies
on the characters in general don't seem to add any value to a study of
their personalities.
SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 96-10-11 09:54:26 Marco wrote:

<< So should I suppose that when Becattini doesn't give information then
there
is none at all available? Oh boy, that will spare you a lot of questions
from my side... >>

Alberto did a lot of research. And contacted alot of fans and Disney
historians for info. (Including me, I identified a lot of Sangor Shop
artists and supplied Don Christensen's list of credits which Alberto pulled
into specific strips- a hard job - I've tried the non-Disney material). The
Becattini index is a wonderful work, and a must for all Disney historians.

Steven Rowe
I spotted some errors (mainly stuff accidently left out of WDC&S, what other
errors?
TWAdair
Just read the recent review of Chinese comicbooks, and was reminded of an
excellent series being published here in the U.S. by Bantam Doubleday Dell,
under their Anchor imprint. They are titled ______ Speaks_, (Zen Speaks,
Sun Tzu Speaks) and are comicstrip adaptations of Asian philosophy. The
latest, _Confucious Speaks_, was just released last month, and like the
previous volumes, contains the chinese text in the margins, explanatory
essays, and a dictionary in the back. Highly recommended.

To tie this into the digest, what is the state of Disney comics in Japan?

Torsten Adair (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA
Michael Naiman
TWAdair writes:

>I would like to see, if possible, small asterices located next to the panels,
noting entries in Rosa's bibliography. Also, the family tree could serve as
endpapers, with a special section at the end containing the covers, the two
"extra" chapters which appeared after the series, and a "making of" essay
written by Don Rosa. Cover it in leather (or acceptable alternative) and
stamp it with the McDuck family crest. Add a signature plate, and sell it
for $50.

You forgot to encase it in mylar, number it serially,and place it in a
special leather bound case! At $11 a piece for the four album editions, how
can you possibly believe that they will put all of this extra effort and
time into a project and barely charge anything? TWAdair, please come back
to Kansas...you've been in Oz too long!

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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #223
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Shaun M. Knowler
GLADSTONE:

At the rate of 1 issue of Uncle $crooge per album (so far), how are you
planning to fit 71 issues (plus specials) into 56 albums?
What have you got planned for the April-July Rosa series in 1997?
Deckerd
As I've mentioned before, I have a subscription to
Anders And, the weekly Danish Donald Duck comic
book. The latest issue I've received is 41/96
(10 Oktober), and what intrigued me most about
it was the back cover ad for next week's issue.
They're printing "The Last Voyage of Ringtail
van Dukke," a Dutch-produced story I translated
and scripted for Gladstone a while back. Judging
from the ad, the next issue will be a double issue
with "Ringtail" appearing separately in a special
supplement, using the Daan Jippes cover that ran
on the Gladstone version. The Dutch title was
slightly different, as I recall -- something on
the order of "The Lost Treasure of..." but somebody
in Prescott apparently thought there had been a few too
many lost treasures lately and changed it to "The Last
Voyage of..." The Danish title is also "Last Voyage"
("Sidste Rejse" if you want to get specific), making
me wonder if my English version was translated into
Danish rather than going back to the Dutch original.
The risk of translating a translation is
getting that much further away from the original--
technical accuracy isn't so critical for Disney comics
of course, but there is some authentic sailing terminology
in that story I had to check out with a friend of mine
who trained as a volunteer sailor on a sailing ship
(the Star of India, for those of you who've wandered
the San Diego waterfront). I'll be curious to see how
the story came out, so I'm waiting for the next Anders
And to turn up in my mailbox with more anticipation than usual...

--Dwight Decker
Deckerd
On Oct 11, 8:17pm, Dan Shane wrote:
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #221
> HARALD:
>
> I don't care to hear about astrology mixed in with Disney character
> descriptions. (...) Its roots are in divination and false religion,
> neither of which belong in a discussion of family comics, in my
opinion.

I agree that astrology is utter nonsense -- hokum -- horsefeathers
-- banana oil -- buncombe -- bunk -- lies -- superstition -- etc.
but what's the problem with including it in a discussion of family
comics? The problem with astrology is that it's not real as a
description of how the universe operates, but it was a part of
human history for an awfully long time, and it persists today,
at its best, as a charming bit of antique folklore that has
enriched the culture with its symbols and such. I'm at a loss
to understand why you think it's going to corrupt families if
it's used in comics or discussed here on the ML.
>
> I'm not a "born-again" fundamentalist Christian, and I don't have any
> problem reading about Magica's pranks and potions -- they're strictly
> make-believe.

As I may have mentioned, I translated the "Money Ocean" story
for Disney Comics a few years ago, and waited eagerly to see
the response in the subsequent letter columns. Unfortunately,
the only letter to be published was one from a fundamentalist
complaining about witches in the story -- Magica, to be precise.
The reader seemed to think that even using witches as fantasy
characters in children's entertainment would set kids down the
path to Satanism or some such.

> But, any mini-treatises on the influence of heavenly bodies
> on the characters in general don't seem to add any value to a study
of
> their personalities.
>
Well, true. In Japan, there's a whole pseudo-science based on
the idea that people with different blood types have different
personalities, and fictional character descriptions always
include their blood types. To me, since I don't know how the
system works, this is a thorough waste, but obviously it's
significant to somebody. Same with astrology here, I suppose.
But again, I can't see where the "family" in the term "family
comics" enters into astrology being a problem.

--Dwight Decker
TWAdair
>You forgot to encase it in mylar, number it serially,and place it in a
>special leather bound case! At $11 a piece for the four album editions, how
>can you possibly believe that they will put all of this extra effort and
>time into a project and barely charge anything? TWAdair, please come back
>to Kansas...you've been in Oz too long!

Well, I just purchased the limited edition hardcover of Astro City for $50 (a
steal, and also highly recommended!), which had a signature plate. Also, DC
published the Sandman: Seasons of Mist hardcover in a beautiful embossed
leather edition and charged something like $25 - $30. If Gladstone does not
have the expertise, time, or desire, then the folks at Graphitti Design could
do it, as they have for numerous other publishers.

Given the professional response to the series (Eisner awards are voted by
professionals), as well as fan response, plus the Disneyana collectors, there
should be enough demand for this item.

I've been to Kansas, lived 23 years in Nebraska and Iowa, and frankly, I
prefer Oz.

Torsten Adair (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA
TWAdair
Today, I attended a special meeting of the Friends of Lulu New York chapter.
This meeting was a brainstorming session on how to help publishers produce
comics which are more interesting to women (and appeal to men as well).

During the lunch break, I spoke with an assistant editor, and he said that
Acclaim Comics (formerly Valiant Comics) was going to produce digest sized
comicbooks of licensed properties. Apparently, Acclaim has acquired the
modern Disney license (tv, movie characters), and will be printing
(reprinting?) stories from Europe.

This is all rumor, though it came from a reliable source. Considering that
Marvel has killed their licensed properties division (Barbie, Ren and Stimpy,
Disney), and that Acclaim is signing major talent to its books, it seems
believable to me. However, Marvel did publish the Hunchback adaptation, so
it remains to be seen.

Also, it seems that these titles will be distributed to newstands as well,
which will be a welcome change.

If anyone has any genres or types of stories they would like to see published
as comics, let me know, and I'll forward the ideas to Rachel Pollack for
inclusion in the handbook.

Torsten Adair (Email removed) Washington, DC, USA

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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #224
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Michael Naiman
TORSTEN:

Hmmm let's see now... we have Mega-Gianto-Humongous Publisher
Time-Warner...then we have Prescott, Arizona based Gladstone (who work
their ducktails off to get out what they do)...I just don't believe that
their pockets are quite deep enough to go out on a limb and produce this
extravaganza compilation with ALL the frills(re: extra stories, family
tree, embossing, etc). How many more times can one go to the well (and the
same buyers) for the product.
Yes, I believe that there will be a hard copy, but, if they are to add all
of your requested extras, this item will have to be a special order limited
edition...translation here...more $$$$$. When going hard-cover there must
be a minimum order (I suppose)...are there enough hard-core fans out there
to support this?? I would be happy with Don's extra text pieces (taken from
Dan Shane's Scrooge page) and a nice neat little hardcover.

Whatcha think Gladstone?
Michael Naiman
TORSTEN:
you mentioned a group that would be interested

> "... plus the Disneyana collectors,"

Have you ever been to a Disneyana Convention and seen their spending habits?
Try going to one of these NFFC get-togethers and you'll understand.
Jaki Ellenby
Hi all,

Just a short note to let you know that an English bookstore is "offering" for
sale the first ten issues of the Danish Anders And & Co. They are bound together
and the set sells for $1000. Since I do not know what they are worth, it seems
extremely expensive to me. But maybe I am wrong, so I just thought I would
inform you.

TO ALL RUNAWAY BRAIN COMICS ENTHUSIASTS

Joachim has contacted me by private e-mail to ask me if I could contact Ulrich
Schroeder to try and get copies of the fabulous original art of the story to
print it in Der Donaldist. I am happy to say that Ulrich accepted. So, you might
be able to have a close look at the genesis of that story soon. I am sure that
Joachim will let us know when that article will appear.

Duck long and prosper,

Didier
Marco Barlotti
Some four days in advance to the schedule, issue #85 of "Zio Paperone" is on
sale today. It carries the reprint of "Lemming with the locket" by Barks, a
short GG Milton-Jeepes story and a long story by Marco Rota, " In den
Faengen der Wikinger", as yet unpublished in Italy. No Rosa story this month
:-( but next month we are expecting "Treasury of Croesus"...

Lemming with the locket.

Are you surprised that I am questioning the translation?
In fact, the final gag had been changed from the first Italian editions
(around 1955) to issue #4 of the same "Zio Paperone"; now the original 1955
translation has been restored. In this first-and-last translation (the
middle one just didn't make sense) HDL refer to the name of the cheese U$
has given them (as a reward for finding the lemming) as "golden wheel". So I
have two questions:
(1) for those who have the original version: was it like this?
(2) for our friends up there in Northern Europe: does there exist really
such a cheese? (When I buy cheese, I am often offered a "Leerdammer" which I
suppose comes from Denmark (but I am not sure) and I always think of it as a
"Golden Wheel" because of its colour...).

Now the Rota story.
This is most probably

D 9434............THE VIKING VOYAGE................................44 pages
Story: Lars Bergstrom/Stefan Printz-Pahlson
Script: Tom Anderson
Art: Marco Rota

the first of a "time machine" series which was recently discussed on this
ML. I can't be 100% sure because they didn't put the code on it (or I was
too dumb to find it ;-)) but if I should make a bet it would be this one.
I wonder whether we ever shall be able to see the sequel, since "Zio
Paperone" has never published a Vicar story as yet.

Marco
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