At 1:34 AM 10/4/96 -0400, Don Rosa wrote:
>For the Americans who won't ever see this story: I was asked to do something
>about pollution, and I carried that a step further and made it a story
>against clearcutting forestlands by business concerns.
(description snipped)
(sad sigh) Sounds like an absolutely lovely story. A true shame that us
benighted 'Merkins will never get a chance to read it. Does any
English-language version exist?
-MMM-
Author
Topic: 199610
(312 messages)
M. Mitchell Marmel
War of the Wendingo...
Message 61 -
1996-10-04 at 20:02:57
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V96 #217
Message 62 -
1996-10-04 at 21:58:50
JONATHAN:
> >(Of course, they have enough sense *not*
> >to spell Carl Barks' name as "Mparx" (they spell it" Mparks", probably to
> >avoid confusing Barks with another Carl whose name *is* spelled with a xi=
> in
> >Greek!
> >
>
> Actually, that one is Karl, not Carl, but I get what you mean.
Well, there's only one kind "K" letter in the Greek Alphabet, and my favorite
Carl/Karl spells his name with a C. (Sort of reminds me of that Monty Python
sketch about this guy who could pronounce "C" but not "K".)
> WDC 600.
Got it! Thanks! I had been trying to find it among my copies of Uncle Scrooge.
By comparing the Greek edition of the Duck family tree with the Gladstone one,
it appears that either the Greeks have added a it to it, or that Gladstone has
chopped a bit off: at the right of the family tree, in the Greek edition,
there is a rectangle showing "family friends", namely Daisy, April, May,
June, and Gyro Gearloose. As the art appears to be by Don, I suspect that the
family tree was "censored" by Gladstone.
The names of the various Ducks have suffered the expected changes in
translation: some names were left intact, others were translated, while
others were changed completely. The strangest of these last changes is with
Molly Mallard, whose name was changed to "Pissa Katrami", which literally
means "Tar Pitch"!!!
Finally, I can now confirm that the text accompanying the family tree is a
translation of Don's text published in WDC&S 600.
> >Around this time we should look for the origins of the basic idea of the
> >square egg. If one considers that Barks was born in 1900, the idea must
> >already date from the beginning of this century!
>
> If that's what the article said, it was a year off.
That's what it said. Perhaps, having heard that Barks was born in the
beginning of this Century, they erroneously interpretted this to mean 1900,
instead of 1901.
DON:
> Jeepers, you're right! That WAS harsh! And what about those poor frogs in
After the shock of the dioxin, the acid was easier to swallow.
> the drainpipes? I'm still not sure what you meant about what he did to the
> Peeweegahs, unless you refer simply to the clearing and polluting of the
> north woods.
Although the villain did not attack the Peeweegahs, he did attack their
proxies, the animals, and therefore, in a sense, the Peeweegahs themselves.
(Would he have stopped short of attacking human beings, if it came to that? I
don't think so.) After watching this, I immediately thought of what is
supposed to have happened to native Americans in real life, who I understand
were deliberately infected with deadly diseases so that white people might
take over their land. Using dioxin (whose deadly effects were seen in India a
few years back) is not too different from using deadly germs.
BTW, the villain's Italian name was "Devasto Deforestis", which is very
appropriate, even in English! I wonder what his English name was.
--
Kriton(e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"The Malus is pure evil. Given enough energy it will not only destroy him,
but everything else... Cheer up!"
-----
> >(Of course, they have enough sense *not*
> >to spell Carl Barks' name as "Mparx" (they spell it" Mparks", probably to
> >avoid confusing Barks with another Carl whose name *is* spelled with a xi=
> in
> >Greek!
> >
>
> Actually, that one is Karl, not Carl, but I get what you mean.
Well, there's only one kind "K" letter in the Greek Alphabet, and my favorite
Carl/Karl spells his name with a C. (Sort of reminds me of that Monty Python
sketch about this guy who could pronounce "C" but not "K".)
> WDC 600.
Got it! Thanks! I had been trying to find it among my copies of Uncle Scrooge.
By comparing the Greek edition of the Duck family tree with the Gladstone one,
it appears that either the Greeks have added a it to it, or that Gladstone has
chopped a bit off: at the right of the family tree, in the Greek edition,
there is a rectangle showing "family friends", namely Daisy, April, May,
June, and Gyro Gearloose. As the art appears to be by Don, I suspect that the
family tree was "censored" by Gladstone.
The names of the various Ducks have suffered the expected changes in
translation: some names were left intact, others were translated, while
others were changed completely. The strangest of these last changes is with
Molly Mallard, whose name was changed to "Pissa Katrami", which literally
means "Tar Pitch"!!!
Finally, I can now confirm that the text accompanying the family tree is a
translation of Don's text published in WDC&S 600.
> >Around this time we should look for the origins of the basic idea of the
> >square egg. If one considers that Barks was born in 1900, the idea must
> >already date from the beginning of this century!
>
> If that's what the article said, it was a year off.
That's what it said. Perhaps, having heard that Barks was born in the
beginning of this Century, they erroneously interpretted this to mean 1900,
instead of 1901.
DON:
> Jeepers, you're right! That WAS harsh! And what about those poor frogs in
After the shock of the dioxin, the acid was easier to swallow.
> the drainpipes? I'm still not sure what you meant about what he did to the
> Peeweegahs, unless you refer simply to the clearing and polluting of the
> north woods.
Although the villain did not attack the Peeweegahs, he did attack their
proxies, the animals, and therefore, in a sense, the Peeweegahs themselves.
(Would he have stopped short of attacking human beings, if it came to that? I
don't think so.) After watching this, I immediately thought of what is
supposed to have happened to native Americans in real life, who I understand
were deliberately infected with deadly diseases so that white people might
take over their land. Using dioxin (whose deadly effects were seen in India a
few years back) is not too different from using deadly germs.
BTW, the villain's Italian name was "Devasto Deforestis", which is very
appropriate, even in English! I wonder what his English name was.
--
Kriton(e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"The Malus is pure evil. Given enough energy it will not only destroy him,
but everything else... Cheer up!"
-----
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #216
Message 63 -
1996-10-04 at 22:10:39
JONATHAN:
>GARY:
>While surfing just now, I noticed that the advertisement for "Pennywise"
>comics now says "Penny Pincher" comics. What happened?
I semi-goofed. Both names have been kicked around as the title for the
99-cent books, and the graphic on the web that says "Pennywise" is a
product of the period when that was the leading contender. My mistake was
using "Pennywise" as the heading for and in the descriptive text, since
"Penny Pincher" has now come to the fore.
KRITON
>1989-RETURN TO PLAIN AWFUL
>The artist Don Rosa creates the now famous sequel to the classic Barks story
>titled *Return*to*Plain*Awful* (Komix #35).
Just out of curiosity, when was Komix #35 published? And did it feature a
cover by Don Rosa? Gladstone's DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES #12, where "Return to
Plain Awful" first appeared, is dated May, 1989.
Gary
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>GARY:
>While surfing just now, I noticed that the advertisement for "Pennywise"
>comics now says "Penny Pincher" comics. What happened?
I semi-goofed. Both names have been kicked around as the title for the
99-cent books, and the graphic on the web that says "Pennywise" is a
product of the period when that was the leading contender. My mistake was
using "Pennywise" as the heading for and in the descriptive text, since
"Penny Pincher" has now come to the fore.
KRITON
>1989-RETURN TO PLAIN AWFUL
>The artist Don Rosa creates the now famous sequel to the classic Barks story
>titled *Return*to*Plain*Awful* (Komix #35).
Just out of curiosity, when was Komix #35 published? And did it feature a
cover by Don Rosa? Gladstone's DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES #12, where "Return to
Plain Awful" first appeared, is dated May, 1989.
Gary
----------------------------------------------------------
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To send e-mail to your favorite Gladstone title(s):
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Byron Erickson
Furious Backpeddling
Message 64 -
1996-10-04 at 22:13:03
DON ROSA
> "A Calisota Yankee in King Arthur's Court" and "The Once and Future Duck"
> are my two alternate titles for one story -- I usually have two or three
> titles for each story since I enjoy making up neat titles and I usually
> can't decide on one. "Stranded in Time" was Byron's title for that same
> story since my titles only made sense to people familiar with (English)
> titles of Mark Twain's or T.H.White's books.
Huh? The Egmont English title for the story is "The Once and Future
Duck"! Where did anyone get the idea that it's "Stranded in Time"?
> But........ if Fethry has ceased to exist, WHY did you people
> force me to include him on the Duck Family Tree!?!?!?!? That Tree is being
> reprinted all over the world, posters are being made of it, it will be used
> for who knows how long... and you had me put a non-existant character in it!
> Whassadeal?
Um... uh... don't you remember? You expressed an interest in adding some
needless and irritating detail to the family tree, so we decided that an
otherwise blank spot could be used to show Donald's imaginary friend.
It's true! Really! I swear! I'd never make up something as silly as
that!
HARALD HAVAS
> R.I.P. LUDVIG & CO.
> Sorry to hear that (in some cases) - but: do the ITALIANS know about
> this? I mean the last time I saw Fethry was THIS summer in "Lustiges
> Taschenbuch" # 222 in two AWFUL one-pagers coded I-2076 and I-2072.
> He's also part of the ALL DISNEY cast (MM and DD) of the fantasy
> story in the selfsame issue (I-2081)... So? Do they all just cease to
> exist in (D-coded) Egmont-Universe, and a time-capsule-energy-
> shield-dimensional-rift protected them in Italy? This wouldn't make
> much sense, as they'd still appear in the Egmont-reprints of the Italian material - hm?
Um... uh... the implosion was a *recent* event and the Italians are
still using up a large inventory of older stories???
> But - if this is the final note on this characters, I'd still want, no,
> DEMAND to know if Ludvig was Austrian! We'd have to write accurate
> information on his tomb!
Gee, I always though ol' Ludwig was *Swiss*!
DWIGHT DECKER (from a Digest I'm too lazy too look up and quote)
*Nothing* I write on this list is official Egmont policy. Or did ya
think this company got so big by letting lunatics make decisions???
> "A Calisota Yankee in King Arthur's Court" and "The Once and Future Duck"
> are my two alternate titles for one story -- I usually have two or three
> titles for each story since I enjoy making up neat titles and I usually
> can't decide on one. "Stranded in Time" was Byron's title for that same
> story since my titles only made sense to people familiar with (English)
> titles of Mark Twain's or T.H.White's books.
Huh? The Egmont English title for the story is "The Once and Future
Duck"! Where did anyone get the idea that it's "Stranded in Time"?
> But........ if Fethry has ceased to exist, WHY did you people
> force me to include him on the Duck Family Tree!?!?!?!? That Tree is being
> reprinted all over the world, posters are being made of it, it will be used
> for who knows how long... and you had me put a non-existant character in it!
> Whassadeal?
Um... uh... don't you remember? You expressed an interest in adding some
needless and irritating detail to the family tree, so we decided that an
otherwise blank spot could be used to show Donald's imaginary friend.
It's true! Really! I swear! I'd never make up something as silly as
that!
HARALD HAVAS
> R.I.P. LUDVIG & CO.
> Sorry to hear that (in some cases) - but: do the ITALIANS know about
> this? I mean the last time I saw Fethry was THIS summer in "Lustiges
> Taschenbuch" # 222 in two AWFUL one-pagers coded I-2076 and I-2072.
> He's also part of the ALL DISNEY cast (MM and DD) of the fantasy
> story in the selfsame issue (I-2081)... So? Do they all just cease to
> exist in (D-coded) Egmont-Universe, and a time-capsule-energy-
> shield-dimensional-rift protected them in Italy? This wouldn't make
> much sense, as they'd still appear in the Egmont-reprints of the Italian material - hm?
Um... uh... the implosion was a *recent* event and the Italians are
still using up a large inventory of older stories???
> But - if this is the final note on this characters, I'd still want, no,
> DEMAND to know if Ludvig was Austrian! We'd have to write accurate
> information on his tomb!
Gee, I always though ol' Ludwig was *Swiss*!
DWIGHT DECKER (from a Digest I'm too lazy too look up and quote)
*Nothing* I write on this list is official Egmont policy. Or did ya
think this company got so big by letting lunatics make decisions???
Arthur De Wolf
AW: Disney comics Digest V96 #217
Message 65 -
1996-10-04 at 23:59:59
Hi!
Is my letter all torn up again? <sigh> I wish I knew what it was!
HARALD HAVAS:
> The answer is out there: Aliens mutilated your keyboard!
Well, I am a 'believer' and I don't exclude that possibility!
KRITON KYRIMIS:
> I wonder what his English name was.
His name is "Ravage DeFlora"!
MARCO BARLOTTI:
> You may keep us out of EURO (the monetary unit) but you should never
> dare keep us out of SQUARE EGGS!
Haha! Maybe Disney Italy will use the same premium in Italy, if you're lucky!
It's interesting to see how European publishers are cooperating like this!
You remember the "That's Donald" beak, with the bleu cord, that was given with
Topolino a while ago? Well, that was also a coproduction between Disney Italy
and DHP in France! They both developed the thing and offered it as premiums with
Topolino and Picsou!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Is my letter all torn up again? <sigh> I wish I knew what it was!
HARALD HAVAS:
> The answer is out there: Aliens mutilated your keyboard!
Well, I am a 'believer' and I don't exclude that possibility!
KRITON KYRIMIS:
> I wonder what his English name was.
His name is "Ravage DeFlora"!
MARCO BARLOTTI:
> You may keep us out of EURO (the monetary unit) but you should never
> dare keep us out of SQUARE EGGS!
Haha! Maybe Disney Italy will use the same premium in Italy, if you're lucky!
It's interesting to see how European publishers are cooperating like this!
You remember the "That's Donald" beak, with the bleu cord, that was given with
Topolino a while ago? Well, that was also a coproduction between Disney Italy
and DHP in France! They both developed the thing and offered it as premiums with
Topolino and Picsou!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Fabrizio
Disney comics Digest V96 #217
Message 66 -
1996-10-05 at 00:10:27
Don Rosa / Harald:
> the last time I saw Fethry was THIS summer in "Lustiges
> Taschenbuch" # 222 in two AWFUL one-pagers coded I-2076 and I-2072.
> He's also part of the ALL DISNEY cast (MM and DD) of the fantasy
> story in the selfsame issue (I-2081)...
Long live Fethry !
He IS still alive in Italy; and kicking too !!
He appears quite often here; surely more often than Gladstone (the duck,
not the publisher), Grandma or other "minor" characters that you would
not doubt they are still alive. No wonder they forced you to put him in
your family tree, Don; he is so popular !
The two one-pagers Harald mentioned are part of the poor "Fethry's
vacation" series; by now, they quitted publishing those stories.
The other story (I-2081) is a (poor too!) "Disney parody" based on
J.R.R. Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings". Are you going to credit Tolkien as
a Disney writer ? I agree 100% with Marco: there would be no point in
that, as we have hundreds of "Parodies"; we even have a Disney monthly
reprinting them.
All:
I would be very interested in having the original script of "War of the
Wendigo" too; so, don't delay, put it on the web, on this list, or at
list in my personal e-mail box !
Fabrizio
> the last time I saw Fethry was THIS summer in "Lustiges
> Taschenbuch" # 222 in two AWFUL one-pagers coded I-2076 and I-2072.
> He's also part of the ALL DISNEY cast (MM and DD) of the fantasy
> story in the selfsame issue (I-2081)...
Long live Fethry !
He IS still alive in Italy; and kicking too !!
He appears quite often here; surely more often than Gladstone (the duck,
not the publisher), Grandma or other "minor" characters that you would
not doubt they are still alive. No wonder they forced you to put him in
your family tree, Don; he is so popular !
The two one-pagers Harald mentioned are part of the poor "Fethry's
vacation" series; by now, they quitted publishing those stories.
The other story (I-2081) is a (poor too!) "Disney parody" based on
J.R.R. Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings". Are you going to credit Tolkien as
a Disney writer ? I agree 100% with Marco: there would be no point in
that, as we have hundreds of "Parodies"; we even have a Disney monthly
reprinting them.
All:
I would be very interested in having the original script of "War of the
Wendigo" too; so, don't delay, put it on the web, on this list, or at
list in my personal e-mail box !
Fabrizio
Kriton Kyrimis
Tracking the Golden Helmet
Message 67 -
1996-10-05 at 00:11:58
[This is a translation of the Greek article accompanying "The Golden
Helmet" in issue #100 of "Comics". It owes more than a little to Geoffrey
Blum's article in Gladstone Album #13 / Donald Duck Adventures Album #20,
which I used as a reference to get the various names right. No credits
are given for this article.]
==============================================================================
TRACKING THE GOLDEN HELMET
Today, more than ever before, we have become cut off from from the past. Old
habits are seen with suspicion, hidden in museums, and we go forward towards a
"better" future. Thus, the past becomes a foreign land to us, and whoever
returns there will find nothing but scattered pieces of a history so lost in
oblivion, that it will loom completely unreal.
Karl Barks wrote and drew *the*Golden*Helmet* in 1953, influenced by Kipling's
and Stevenson's adventure novels. His story, however, is more than a simple
adventure. Each of its details shows a conflict between present and past,
indicating that there is something that has been lost forever, something
precious that has not survived till our time. Barks' love or sea adventures
and his bitter lack of trust towards lawyers because of his divorce in 1951,
come to complete the nostalgic quest diffused in Donald's expressions in
_the_Golden_Helmet_.
The cause, however, was different: When Barks discovered one day in his files
an article by Frances Spatz in _American_Weekly_ titled "How The Norsemen Got
Here First", he read for the first time about a Viking monument that had been
discovered by chance in Minnesota by a farmer called Olaf Ohman! This was
already enough for the great Story Teller! The missing link for which he had
been looking had at last been found...
Next, Barks will put, through Donald, the question: From what are we trying to
escape, if not from a miserable present? Beginning, therefore, his story in
Duckburg's Archeological Museum, he will present ancient life as forgotten
exhibits. None of the visitors examines the Viking ship, the sword, or the
shield placed carelessly on the wall. Even the sign on the relic describes the
ancient ship in an almost insulting manner... On the other hand, everybody
wants to see the tatting collection and the butterflies, objects that are
purely decorative, diminishing any greatness in the human past.
Pushing himself beyond the limits of everyday life, heroic Donald will manage,
as the story evolves, to discover inner reserves of strength. Thus, he is
forced to rely exclusively in his own strength, to orient himself with the aid
of the stars, and to travel to the dangerous sea of far away Labrador.
Meanwhile, however, a frantic race to discover the helmet-grail links Donald
and Azure Blue in the face of Olaf the conqueror: Both the hero and the
villain end up losing everything connecting them with the rest of the world;
ship, compass, and life boat, and they end up travelling in a wooden boat as
had Olaf the Blue had done centuries before! It is not a coincidence that the
warship escorting Azure Blue has the number 313 on it, the number that is the
official distinguishing mark of Donald on his license plates! Carl Barks is
brilliant again, by having the two protagonists of the story converge both
mentally and intellectually, as well as geographically!
When the helmet starts to change hands, Donald will need to take only a small
step to lift it over his head and declare himself king of the New World, in
Azure Blue's place.
Does this mean that the spirit of ancient adventure fades when examined under
the distorting prism of the modern age? If this is indeed so, then past and
future become one: Modern conquerors simply use lawyers instead of swords.
Something like this would have been an easy conclusion, but not for Barks. His
thirst for adventure, and the heroic ideals which he already shares with
Donald from the beginning of the story, save the heroic duck from Duckburg in
the end. The story ends with Donald returning wiser to the familiar Museum. He
now knows, like Barks himself, that it is he who is the only romantic guardian
of the glorious heroic past. As for suddenly having an intense desire to see
the embroidered lamp shades [in the Greek text it's couch cushions] himself,
this is nothing but the safety valve that Barks himself leaves to the reader.
Every one of us must decide alone which road to follow: Return to the past, or
conquer the future? Donald chose to walk this road from its start.
--
Kriton(e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"The Malus is pure evil. Given enough energy it will not only destroy him,
but everything else... Cheer up!"
-----
Helmet" in issue #100 of "Comics". It owes more than a little to Geoffrey
Blum's article in Gladstone Album #13 / Donald Duck Adventures Album #20,
which I used as a reference to get the various names right. No credits
are given for this article.]
==============================================================================
TRACKING THE GOLDEN HELMET
Today, more than ever before, we have become cut off from from the past. Old
habits are seen with suspicion, hidden in museums, and we go forward towards a
"better" future. Thus, the past becomes a foreign land to us, and whoever
returns there will find nothing but scattered pieces of a history so lost in
oblivion, that it will loom completely unreal.
Karl Barks wrote and drew *the*Golden*Helmet* in 1953, influenced by Kipling's
and Stevenson's adventure novels. His story, however, is more than a simple
adventure. Each of its details shows a conflict between present and past,
indicating that there is something that has been lost forever, something
precious that has not survived till our time. Barks' love or sea adventures
and his bitter lack of trust towards lawyers because of his divorce in 1951,
come to complete the nostalgic quest diffused in Donald's expressions in
_the_Golden_Helmet_.
The cause, however, was different: When Barks discovered one day in his files
an article by Frances Spatz in _American_Weekly_ titled "How The Norsemen Got
Here First", he read for the first time about a Viking monument that had been
discovered by chance in Minnesota by a farmer called Olaf Ohman! This was
already enough for the great Story Teller! The missing link for which he had
been looking had at last been found...
Next, Barks will put, through Donald, the question: From what are we trying to
escape, if not from a miserable present? Beginning, therefore, his story in
Duckburg's Archeological Museum, he will present ancient life as forgotten
exhibits. None of the visitors examines the Viking ship, the sword, or the
shield placed carelessly on the wall. Even the sign on the relic describes the
ancient ship in an almost insulting manner... On the other hand, everybody
wants to see the tatting collection and the butterflies, objects that are
purely decorative, diminishing any greatness in the human past.
Pushing himself beyond the limits of everyday life, heroic Donald will manage,
as the story evolves, to discover inner reserves of strength. Thus, he is
forced to rely exclusively in his own strength, to orient himself with the aid
of the stars, and to travel to the dangerous sea of far away Labrador.
Meanwhile, however, a frantic race to discover the helmet-grail links Donald
and Azure Blue in the face of Olaf the conqueror: Both the hero and the
villain end up losing everything connecting them with the rest of the world;
ship, compass, and life boat, and they end up travelling in a wooden boat as
had Olaf the Blue had done centuries before! It is not a coincidence that the
warship escorting Azure Blue has the number 313 on it, the number that is the
official distinguishing mark of Donald on his license plates! Carl Barks is
brilliant again, by having the two protagonists of the story converge both
mentally and intellectually, as well as geographically!
When the helmet starts to change hands, Donald will need to take only a small
step to lift it over his head and declare himself king of the New World, in
Azure Blue's place.
Does this mean that the spirit of ancient adventure fades when examined under
the distorting prism of the modern age? If this is indeed so, then past and
future become one: Modern conquerors simply use lawyers instead of swords.
Something like this would have been an easy conclusion, but not for Barks. His
thirst for adventure, and the heroic ideals which he already shares with
Donald from the beginning of the story, save the heroic duck from Duckburg in
the end. The story ends with Donald returning wiser to the familiar Museum. He
now knows, like Barks himself, that it is he who is the only romantic guardian
of the glorious heroic past. As for suddenly having an intense desire to see
the embroidered lamp shades [in the Greek text it's couch cushions] himself,
this is nothing but the safety valve that Barks himself leaves to the reader.
Every one of us must decide alone which road to follow: Return to the past, or
conquer the future? Donald chose to walk this road from its start.
--
Kriton(e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"The Malus is pure evil. Given enough energy it will not only destroy him,
but everything else... Cheer up!"
-----
Pedersen, Bent
Digests #214-217
Message 68 -
1996-10-05 at 01:41:37
Hello all,
DAVID GERSTEIN:
> The Egmont story you read is called "Phantom Bob Returns" and was
> drawn by Esteban, although I don't know who wrote it.
Following a popular thread of the latest digest, perhaps this story should
be marked [plot: Stephen King] in the database. :)
> I would go NUTS to get that Indonesian Gladstone Gander comic with
> my Egg Collector story in it.
If you want photo copies of your story, just let me know. I'd be happy to
send them to you.
> In fact, I'd like to get a subscription to the Singapore
> Mickey Mouse (English) weekly, and to that Gladstone
> Gander from Indonesia. How to do it?
The address for Donal Bebek is:
Donal Bebek/AWD
Jl. Palmerah Selatan 22
Jkt. 10270
The exact name of the publisher is hard to find, but maybe it is PT
Gramedia (Majalah). The language is really really really hard to read, but
I hope this information is valid.
ALL:
While reading through Byron's list of characters-non-grata (I /used/ to be
a fan of Byron), I started thinking about Little Toot, looked him up on the
web-pages and... Disney has lost the rights to use him! Why, and to who(m)?
MARCO BARLOTTI:
> is "LITTLE GUM". Stories are written and drawn by Chierchini, often
> with a sort of "electronic" colouring. I don't dislike this sort of
> colouring, but I'm not very fond of it either. I wonder: do they
> keep this colouring in "foreign" reprints?
Yes, at least in Denmark (and I hate it).
Best regards
Bent Pedersen
DAVID GERSTEIN:
> The Egmont story you read is called "Phantom Bob Returns" and was
> drawn by Esteban, although I don't know who wrote it.
Following a popular thread of the latest digest, perhaps this story should
be marked [plot: Stephen King] in the database. :)
> I would go NUTS to get that Indonesian Gladstone Gander comic with
> my Egg Collector story in it.
If you want photo copies of your story, just let me know. I'd be happy to
send them to you.
> In fact, I'd like to get a subscription to the Singapore
> Mickey Mouse (English) weekly, and to that Gladstone
> Gander from Indonesia. How to do it?
The address for Donal Bebek is:
Donal Bebek/AWD
Jl. Palmerah Selatan 22
Jkt. 10270
The exact name of the publisher is hard to find, but maybe it is PT
Gramedia (Majalah). The language is really really really hard to read, but
I hope this information is valid.
ALL:
While reading through Byron's list of characters-non-grata (I /used/ to be
a fan of Byron), I started thinking about Little Toot, looked him up on the
web-pages and... Disney has lost the rights to use him! Why, and to who(m)?
MARCO BARLOTTI:
> is "LITTLE GUM". Stories are written and drawn by Chierchini, often
> with a sort of "electronic" colouring. I don't dislike this sort of
> colouring, but I'm not very fond of it either. I wonder: do they
> keep this colouring in "foreign" reprints?
Yes, at least in Denmark (and I hate it).
Best regards
Bent Pedersen
Pedersen, Bent
Database program
Message 69 -
1996-10-05 at 01:50:19
Hello all,
As some of you may know, I am writing a small program to browse the
database. The first version is now ready for download, and the second
version is ready within a week. The address is
http://home4.inet.tele.dk/bp/bent.html - follow the database link from
there.
If you want to be notified when the program is updated, please e-mail me.
Comments and suggestions are welcome, but please keep such things in
e-mail...
Best regards
Bent Pedersen
As some of you may know, I am writing a small program to browse the
database. The first version is now ready for download, and the second
version is ready within a week. The address is
http://home4.inet.tele.dk/bp/bent.html - follow the database link from
there.
If you want to be notified when the program is updated, please e-mail me.
Comments and suggestions are welcome, but please keep such things in
e-mail...
Best regards
Bent Pedersen
Joachim Butz
Rosa in SF in b/w
Message 70 -
1996-10-05 at 02:47:07
MICHAEL wrote:
>Hey Bruce, what an excuse for ANOTHER reprint..."Don
>Rosa's LO$ in B&W" It worked once before!!
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes!!!!!!
That's what I am waiting for since I first saw a copy of b/w Rosa art. b/w
and in original size - that would be GREAT!
>Hey Bruce, what an excuse for ANOTHER reprint..."Don
>Rosa's LO$ in B&W" It worked once before!!
Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes!!!!!!
That's what I am waiting for since I first saw a copy of b/w Rosa art. b/w
and in original size - that would be GREAT!
Jan Lund Thomsen
Translated puns: "Bats in the Belfry"
Message 71 -
1996-10-05 at 04:32:05
DWIGHT:
>Incidentally, to get this back to Disney stuf'...I just
>got a copy of a Danish comic (a supplement to the Anders
>And of a few weeks back) that has a cover that's a blatantly
>obvious illustration of the Americanism "bats in the belfry,"
>but the title/caption was something else because (I assume)
>the expression doesn't exist in Danish. (I don't have the
>comic in front of me and I'm doing this from memory, so I
>don't want to make too many assumptions and sweeping
>statements.)
Issue 33, right? With the Van Horn cover? Speaking as a Dane who didn't buy the
Danish edition as his parent brought the Norwegian edition back from Norway I
can't really decide which version was the best.
The danish edition is titled "Rotter paa loftet" (Rats in the attic) which is a
jolly good title as it is the danish version of "Bats in the belfry" *and*
having rats mentioned in the title of a pest-exterminator story is a nice
touch. Only one thing wrong with it: there isn't a single rat in the entire
story. :)
On the other hand, the Norwegian version is called "Flagrende Fare". At first
glance, and considdering a load of bats on the cover this sorta translates as
Flying Danger (Flagrende => flapping(as in flapping of wings), Fare => Danger).
However the title has a new meaning when you consider that "flagrende" sounds a
bit like "flaggermus" - which happens to be Norwegian for "bats".
--- Jan
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C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
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>Incidentally, to get this back to Disney stuf'...I just
>got a copy of a Danish comic (a supplement to the Anders
>And of a few weeks back) that has a cover that's a blatantly
>obvious illustration of the Americanism "bats in the belfry,"
>but the title/caption was something else because (I assume)
>the expression doesn't exist in Danish. (I don't have the
>comic in front of me and I'm doing this from memory, so I
>don't want to make too many assumptions and sweeping
>statements.)
Issue 33, right? With the Van Horn cover? Speaking as a Dane who didn't buy the
Danish edition as his parent brought the Norwegian edition back from Norway I
can't really decide which version was the best.
The danish edition is titled "Rotter paa loftet" (Rats in the attic) which is a
jolly good title as it is the danish version of "Bats in the belfry" *and*
having rats mentioned in the title of a pest-exterminator story is a nice
touch. Only one thing wrong with it: there isn't a single rat in the entire
story. :)
On the other hand, the Norwegian version is called "Flagrende Fare". At first
glance, and considdering a load of bats on the cover this sorta translates as
Flying Danger (Flagrende => flapping(as in flapping of wings), Fare => Danger).
However the title has a new meaning when you consider that "flagrende" sounds a
bit like "flaggermus" - which happens to be Norwegian for "bats".
--- Jan
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Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
--------------------------------- FTP: ftp://www.pip.dknet.dk/pub/pip781/ ---
Jan Lund Thomsen
Disney comics Digest V96 #209
Message 72 -
1996-10-05 at 04:32:09
JACOB:
> "Hjælp fra Japan" [I 2088], 31 pages in Jumbobog 183.
> Gyro, Little Helper, DD, DA, HDL (and JW), US, Grandma Duck, Gus Goose,
> Super Duck.
I don't buy the Jumbo's but I do thumb through them (when I'm not busy selling
comics to customers. :)) I did notice the above story as it introduced Gyro's
Japanese cousin and his nephew. Unfortunately, their names elude me for the
moment.
ANDERS:
>> There also was a Super-Chip and a Super-Dale once. They accidentally got
>> some of Goofy's peanuts and used their newfound super-powers to get even with
>> some denizen of the forest. Anyone remember this story?
>
>Yeah, sure. That's from WDC 397 (AA 74-49), right?
Whatever you say, master! Back then I only read the comics and didn't care
about details such as artits, issues numbers, and story codes. :)
SVEN-OLIVER (and the rest of you, for that matter):
>Hi, OLE! (Sorry to all the others, but I couldn't reach Ole
>under his private email address
>
> (Email removed)
As I speak to Ole on a semi-daily basis I am able to shed some light on this:
The correctional ... eh! ... *Educational* facility that feeds Ole his link to
the real world has been undergoing electronic surgery as their hostname is
being changed. As a result he can send emails to others, but not the other way
around. You might be able to contact him on (Email removed) which is
(supposedly) the new hostname.
Sorry I couldn't answer this before.
--- Jan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
--------------------------------- FTP: ftp://www.pip.dknet.dk/pub/pip781/ ---
> "Hjælp fra Japan" [I 2088], 31 pages in Jumbobog 183.
> Gyro, Little Helper, DD, DA, HDL (and JW), US, Grandma Duck, Gus Goose,
> Super Duck.
I don't buy the Jumbo's but I do thumb through them (when I'm not busy selling
comics to customers. :)) I did notice the above story as it introduced Gyro's
Japanese cousin and his nephew. Unfortunately, their names elude me for the
moment.
ANDERS:
>> There also was a Super-Chip and a Super-Dale once. They accidentally got
>> some of Goofy's peanuts and used their newfound super-powers to get even with
>> some denizen of the forest. Anyone remember this story?
>
>Yeah, sure. That's from WDC 397 (AA 74-49), right?
Whatever you say, master! Back then I only read the comics and didn't care
about details such as artits, issues numbers, and story codes. :)
SVEN-OLIVER (and the rest of you, for that matter):
>Hi, OLE! (Sorry to all the others, but I couldn't reach Ole
>under his private email address
>
> (Email removed)
As I speak to Ole on a semi-daily basis I am able to shed some light on this:
The correctional ... eh! ... *Educational* facility that feeds Ole his link to
the real world has been undergoing electronic surgery as their hostname is
being changed. As a result he can send emails to others, but not the other way
around. You might be able to contact him on (Email removed) which is
(supposedly) the new hostname.
Sorry I couldn't answer this before.
--- Jan
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jan Lund Thomsen (aka Qed/Triangle 3532) Lystrup, Denmark
C64/RPG/INWO/Warner Bros/Disney/Anthro/Comics-addict and all-around nice guy.
--- Email: (Email removed) ---- WWW: http://www.pip.dknet.dk/%7Epip781/ ---
--------------------------------- FTP: ftp://www.pip.dknet.dk/pub/pip781/ ---
Eric Chun
(No subject)
Message 73 -
1996-10-05 at 04:51:09
Don Rosa's incredible artwork for "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck"
is now on display at the Cartoon Art Museum in San Francisco! On Satur-
day (Sept. 28), there was a signing from 3:00-5:00pm and a reception
from 6:30-8:30pm (for patrons of the museum and guests of the artists).
For this grand occasion, Don flew in from Kentucky, Barry Branvold flew
in from North Dakota, and Michael and Susan Naiman flew in from San Di-
ego on Friday (and stayed 'til Sunday). Five Northern Californians
(Scott McAdam, Bill Howard, Steven Ng, Henry ?, and myself) also managed
to get there by automobile or BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit).
On Friday, we met for dinner at the R&G Lounge in picturesque Chinatown
in San Francisco. Barry gave everyone neat buttons with a photo of Don,
taken from a trading card. Someone also gave everyone European comic
books which aren't reprinted in the USA yet. Discussions ensued over
dinner about comic shops, comic books, and original art. It seems that
the perfect vacation (or holiday) would be to search for comic books at
comic shops that you've never been to. Never mind sightseeing --
there's no time for that! :)
After dinner, it was time for a stroll through the streets of San Fran-
cisco (through Chinatown, to be exact). The weather was clear and it
was a nice night for a stroll. Since it was past 9:30pm, most of the
stores were closed, and most of the San Franciscans had gone home.
However, souvenir stores, eager to give tourists a golden fleecing,
were still open. Michael commented with vigor, "Who buys this
stuff?!?" :)
Panhandlers abounded on the sidewalks. (After all, this is gold rush
country. There's bound to be panhandlers!) Barry slipped a motion-
less statue a dollar, after the motionless statue ran across the
street to meet him for the second time. (This was a guy pretending to
be a motionless statue.) It seemed that Don and Barry weren't used to
this peculiar environment. Life in the big city must be quite differ-
ent from life in the hills of Kentucky or the plains of North Dakota.
:)
It was time to call it a night. Bill and Henry went to their cars
nearby. Don, Barry, Michael, Susan, and Scott piled into Scott's
pickup truck and headed off into the night. Steven and I started the
long walk back to the parking structure where my car was parked. When
we finally reached the parking structure twenty minutes later, Scott's
pickup truck pulled up out of nowhere to drop off Don, Barry, Michael,
and Susan, who were en route to their hotel. That was a strange coin-
cidence -- we were all shocked to see each other! It must have seemed
like Steven and I were stalking them. :)
On Saturday, we all arrived at the Cartoon Art Museum at different
times. Don had a table set up to meet and greet the Scrooge McDuck
fans and cartoon art enthusiasts from 3:00-5:00pm. There were stacks
of "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck #1-4" (bound volumes), which
were selling well. Don was more than happy to autograph them and any-
thing else that you brought (like my stack of comics). A lot of peo-
ple knew who Don was, but couldn't remember Carl Banks .. uh, Karl
Marx .. uh, the other duck man! :)
Cover and page artwork from LO$ were arranged on three big walls and
two smaller walls in one of the exhibit rooms. The artwork was in
black and white, and didn't have any lettering on them. Since the
stories are translated into so many different languages, the letter-
ing is done separately. Photocopies of the comic books (with let-
tering) were available for borrowing. One of the walls proudly dis-
played eight covers! Barry and Michael were meticulously inspecting
every cover for hidden Mickey Mouse drawings. Referring to the im-
pressive artwork, Barry quipped, "Do you think this guy (Don) is any
good?" :)
Don drew a color sketch for the silent auction at the reception,
which lasted from 6:30-8:30pm. Pictured was Scrooge McDuck and Glit-
tering Goldie, set amid the blue skies and mountains of the Yukon,
complete with gold nuggets. This was the prize winner of the auc-
tion. Bidding for it was fast and furious, especially near the end.
The starting bid of $250 rose to $400+. It seems that it was worth
it's weight in gold. :)
Other items (from Edward Gorey, John Byrne, Lynn Johnston, etc.) were
also available in the silent auction. One person (Harry Wong) was
raising the bids on a number of items. He said he didn't know what
any of these items were -- he just wanted to bring something home.
(The next time there's an auction, don't tell him about it!) :)
After the reception ended, we went for a snack. Don got his ice
cream taken away, since he was allowing it to melt. 'Course he got
it back later. :)
Can't believe you read all of this!
See you later.
Eric
is now on display at the Cartoon Art Museum in San Francisco! On Satur-
day (Sept. 28), there was a signing from 3:00-5:00pm and a reception
from 6:30-8:30pm (for patrons of the museum and guests of the artists).
For this grand occasion, Don flew in from Kentucky, Barry Branvold flew
in from North Dakota, and Michael and Susan Naiman flew in from San Di-
ego on Friday (and stayed 'til Sunday). Five Northern Californians
(Scott McAdam, Bill Howard, Steven Ng, Henry ?, and myself) also managed
to get there by automobile or BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit).
On Friday, we met for dinner at the R&G Lounge in picturesque Chinatown
in San Francisco. Barry gave everyone neat buttons with a photo of Don,
taken from a trading card. Someone also gave everyone European comic
books which aren't reprinted in the USA yet. Discussions ensued over
dinner about comic shops, comic books, and original art. It seems that
the perfect vacation (or holiday) would be to search for comic books at
comic shops that you've never been to. Never mind sightseeing --
there's no time for that! :)
After dinner, it was time for a stroll through the streets of San Fran-
cisco (through Chinatown, to be exact). The weather was clear and it
was a nice night for a stroll. Since it was past 9:30pm, most of the
stores were closed, and most of the San Franciscans had gone home.
However, souvenir stores, eager to give tourists a golden fleecing,
were still open. Michael commented with vigor, "Who buys this
stuff?!?" :)
Panhandlers abounded on the sidewalks. (After all, this is gold rush
country. There's bound to be panhandlers!) Barry slipped a motion-
less statue a dollar, after the motionless statue ran across the
street to meet him for the second time. (This was a guy pretending to
be a motionless statue.) It seemed that Don and Barry weren't used to
this peculiar environment. Life in the big city must be quite differ-
ent from life in the hills of Kentucky or the plains of North Dakota.
:)
It was time to call it a night. Bill and Henry went to their cars
nearby. Don, Barry, Michael, Susan, and Scott piled into Scott's
pickup truck and headed off into the night. Steven and I started the
long walk back to the parking structure where my car was parked. When
we finally reached the parking structure twenty minutes later, Scott's
pickup truck pulled up out of nowhere to drop off Don, Barry, Michael,
and Susan, who were en route to their hotel. That was a strange coin-
cidence -- we were all shocked to see each other! It must have seemed
like Steven and I were stalking them. :)
On Saturday, we all arrived at the Cartoon Art Museum at different
times. Don had a table set up to meet and greet the Scrooge McDuck
fans and cartoon art enthusiasts from 3:00-5:00pm. There were stacks
of "The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck #1-4" (bound volumes), which
were selling well. Don was more than happy to autograph them and any-
thing else that you brought (like my stack of comics). A lot of peo-
ple knew who Don was, but couldn't remember Carl Banks .. uh, Karl
Marx .. uh, the other duck man! :)
Cover and page artwork from LO$ were arranged on three big walls and
two smaller walls in one of the exhibit rooms. The artwork was in
black and white, and didn't have any lettering on them. Since the
stories are translated into so many different languages, the letter-
ing is done separately. Photocopies of the comic books (with let-
tering) were available for borrowing. One of the walls proudly dis-
played eight covers! Barry and Michael were meticulously inspecting
every cover for hidden Mickey Mouse drawings. Referring to the im-
pressive artwork, Barry quipped, "Do you think this guy (Don) is any
good?" :)
Don drew a color sketch for the silent auction at the reception,
which lasted from 6:30-8:30pm. Pictured was Scrooge McDuck and Glit-
tering Goldie, set amid the blue skies and mountains of the Yukon,
complete with gold nuggets. This was the prize winner of the auc-
tion. Bidding for it was fast and furious, especially near the end.
The starting bid of $250 rose to $400+. It seems that it was worth
it's weight in gold. :)
Other items (from Edward Gorey, John Byrne, Lynn Johnston, etc.) were
also available in the silent auction. One person (Harry Wong) was
raising the bids on a number of items. He said he didn't know what
any of these items were -- he just wanted to bring something home.
(The next time there's an auction, don't tell him about it!) :)
After the reception ended, we went for a snack. Don got his ice
cream taken away, since he was allowing it to melt. 'Course he got
it back later. :)
Can't believe you read all of this!
See you later.
Eric
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