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DON
>For the Americans who won't ever see this story: I was asked to do something
>about pollution, and I carried that a step further and made it a story
>against clearcutting forestlands by business concerns. Maybe I got carried
>away since the preservation of the world's forests is just about my BIGGEST
interest. Most of the money I make doing sketches for fans at conventions
>goes to the Nature Conservancy to buy up woodland and protect it from greedy
developers and lumber companies.

Funny. Did you know that Floyd Gottfredson won second prize in a
cartoon-contest sponsored by the "American Tree Association" his
school asked him to join - in 1928?!? The drawing featured the bad
effects cutting down trees would have on the environment and people
(1928!) I have the cartoon (it's in the Donaldist publication about
Gottfredson), maybe you'd care for a copy?

JOACHIM
>I agree to this! - That's what this ML is for (I suppose). Aber manchmal
>juckt es einem eben in den Fingern, den Anderen ein klein wenig auf den Arm
>zu nehmen (SORRY - I didn't find a suitable English phrase for this.
>Perhaps Harald could help.)

Er.. let's see, English idoms that would fit... "Sometimes I am
itching to/get the urge to pull somebodys leg" Or something like
this...

>I looked up in the book "Die Ducks-Psychogram einer Sippe". On page 46
>there is a panel taken from German Micky Maus #51/1964, p. 10. There LVD
>stated that he is born in Vienna.

Yeah! Wow! Now we know! All that remains is to find out the code on
that story, then the original, and where this information comes from -
is it "canon" or did Eriak Fuchs naturalize him to our country...?

MARCO
>What is the European Community for, if France has them, Greece has them and
>Italy doesn't!

Har, har... WE have them too! The egg-squarer has been a "Gimmick" in
the German comic-magazine "Yps" more than once! That's where _I_ got
it - *smirk*! "Yps" follows the "Pif"-publication of France, maybe
there is an equivalent in Italy too? Sometimes you get these things
(the egg-squarer, not the comics) in design-shops too - but made of
metal and far more expensive...
Ma, e possibile che trovo una copia del fumetto per voi... volete?
(BTW-Inside information for Italian list-members: you'd never guess
what I'm translating for an Austrain publisher..... "Zagor" - per
mille tamburi!)

"Gustav Gans - ja, der kann's! Doch unser Schwein ist auch nicht
klein!" Tick, Trick und Track Duck
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)

Hi!

HARALD HAVAS:
> PS: I also passed the GP-stand, where three men [...]
Huh?! Was it featuring Disney stuff? I don't get it! Why is GP on a
German comic-convention?

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney

BENT PEDERSEN

Responding to
> DAVID GERSTEIN:
> > The Egmont story you read is called "Phantom Bob Returns" and was
> > drawn by Esteban, although I don't know who wrote it.
>
> Following a popular thread of the latest digest, perhaps this story should
> be marked [plot: Stephen King] in the database. :)

The author of "Phantom Bob Returns" is Kurt Behnke. What Stephen King
plot did he swipe (the dirty rat!). Not that it would upset me, mind
you--the best writers all generally do a brisk business fencing stolen
goods.

> While reading through Byron's list of characters-non-grata (I /used/ to be
> a fan of Byron)

Geez, what a tough mailing list! Kill off a few measly, well-loved
characters and the crowd turns on ya! Why, next thing you know, there'll
be a lynch mob hot on my heels.

Good thing the Egmont building has a security system that would cause
Uncle Scrooge to turn greenback green in envy! But if all else fails,
let's see you try to extradite me from Botofogo! Nyah!

Byron (Fugitive-From-Mob-Justice) Erickson

Hi again! A few quick comments on the last week or so of Digests...

MARCO BARLOTTI:

Yes, there was briefly a RESCUE RANGERS comic from either Disney or
Marvel (I forget who had the rights at the time) during the first run of the
cartoon show. My friends Tom and Mary Bierbaum (who also wrote the Legion of
Super-Heroes for DC at the time, a lot better than most of the current people
if I may editorialize) wrote at least one story for the book.

DWIGHT DECKER:

On moving translated stories to different countries, I'm glad to see
that most countries are keeping the Disney characters in their native
America. That was always a weak point of the TINTIN translations for me; the
English versions not only rendered their language as English, but placed the
Belgian lead characters IN England. Since Tintin visited a number of real (as
well as fictional) countries, it's been noted that sometimes things didn't
gel. A language translation is understandable and inevitable (like the
obsessive pickpocket in SECRET OF THE UNICORN who filed his stolen wallets
alphabetically... yet Thomson and Thompson found theirs BEFORE the "E's",
reflecting their original names of Dupond and Dupont), but in THE BLACK
ISLAND Tintin had to cross the ocean to get to Scotland...explained rather
unconvincingly by his having vacationed abroad at the beginning of the story.

No, there's no such word as "meese," at least not as the plural of
"moose." (As you know but many of the Europeans may not, there WAS a certain
Edwin Meese who used to be Attorney General during the Reagan presidency, but
the less said about him, the better.) And surely the story could have been
rewritten to feature different animals whose plurals were more
accurate--Donald mistaking "dogs" for "hogs," for instance.

BYRON ERICKSON:

GREAT list of displaced Disney characters! All right if I crib from it
and post a similar announcement on the DC boards, explaining that Doomsday
and Bane destroyed each other in an epic battle that also killed the new
incarnations of Dr. Fate and Green Lantern, Jimmy Olsen's mother, Pantha,
Lobo, and innumerable other characters I'd be very happy to get rid of? I
don't see how it could have killed off Chip 'n' Dale only as Rescue Rangers,
though...unless you mean to indicate that they survived but their companions
(Monterey Jack, Gadget et al) as well their villains (Dr. Nimnul, Fatcat and
the rest) are now history...

And I confess I also have a soft spot for old Ludwig, too. He's also
appeared on the Disney cartoon series BONKERS!, as a semi-regular scientist
who sometimes helps the main character (a cartoon star turned cop) solve his
crimes and technical difficulties. The premise is very similar to WHO FRAMED
ROGER RABBIT? in that it features a "toon" working with a human detective,
though in actual fact all the characters on this series are animated. The
studio seemed to be searching for a premise that would work with an
originally rather nondescript character, and then changed Bonkers' partner
halfway through, from a middle-aged detective named "Lucky" Pickel to an
attractive blonde policewoman named Miranda Wright . (The latter name is a
pun on a complex American point of police procedure that I should probably
explain to our European members. Back in the 1960's a man named Ernesto
Miranda was convicted of rape. He appealed the conviction to the United
States Supreme Court, a body whose powers are the envy of courts in other
countries, and that court reversed his conviction on the grounds that the
police hadn't informed him of his rights under the United States Constitution
(the right to remain silent, to the presence of an attorney, several others).
Since then American police have had to inform all arrested suspects of those
rights (as seen on the TV shows America exports)...known as "Miranda rights"
after the 1966 case.)

DON ROSA:

A 50th-anniversary Uncle $crooge story? I'm racking my brains, but
everything turns out either to be something you've already done (like his
life story) or absurdly maudlin (Donald and the boys decide to throw a
surprise birthday party for Scrooge, and try to figure out what to give the
richest man in the world). Actually, the party idea might not be a bad one,
if they try to invite not only the family (no, I wouldn't mind seeing Ludwig,
and I'd LIKE to see Mickey and Minnie make it) but old friends like
Glittering Goldie and Wanda Waddle. I would NOT like to see a Marv
Wolfman/Marvel-style plot with all the villains getting together to rob
Scrooge, but some of them might actually be interesting if they behaved
themselves at the party. (The Beagle Boys? Probably not, but maybe Magica or
even Flintheart.)
And the comment in the latest Digest about European reprints of "Return
to Plain Awful" reminds me...wouldn't that be another case where the punch
line, though one of your best, relies on a pun (the double meaning of
"square") that might not translate into other languages?

MARCO BARLOTTI:

<<(The plot: in order to inherit an unknown amount of money, $crooge must
spend 5,000 US$ in five days; he asks Donald to do this for him, but Donald
doesn't succeed because he suddenly turns as lucky as Gladstone Gander; he
will learn -at the end of the story- from a fortune-teller that those were
the "only" five lucky days in his life...)>>

Then the fortune-teller was wrong, not too surprisingly. They may be few
and far between, but Donald's had many more than five lucky days in his life,
even if we limit ourselves to Barks stories: "The Mummy's Ring," "The Gilded
Man," and especially "Luck of the North" all provide examples.

BENT PEDERSEN:

<<While reading through Byron's list of characters-non-grata (I /used/ to be
a fan of Byron), I started thinking about Little Toot, looked him up on the
web-pages and... Disney has lost the rights to use him! Why, and to who(m)?>>

I do know that Little Toot was created by a Disney animator named Hardie
Gramatky (sp.?) who also turned the story into a successful children's book,
so maybe he somehow got back the rights when he renewed the copyright after
28 years. That seems unlikely in the light of Disney's careful control of
rights (they still own Lambert the Sheepish Lion and Goliath II, both created
by another Disney animator, Bill Peet, who be came an even more successful
children's book writer/artist), but not impossible. I do know that a few
recent characters like Roger Rabbit were jointly owned with producer Steven
Spielberg (who also co-owns several recent Warner Bros. TV characters
including the Tiny Toons, the Animaniacs, and Pinky and the Brain) making it
difficult to use Roger with, say, Donald and Scrooge.

Rich Morrissey

MARCO:
> I'll give you a week time to send me (privately, why bother the others on
> the list) these codes. After a week I'll send my index to Harry, ready or not.

You might as well take 3 more weeks, because from next week to the
end of the month, I'll be on holiday/vacation, and I won't be able to
read my mailbox.

--Harry.

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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #219
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Per:
I hope someone explained to J.M.Willaimson how to "unsubscribe"; or at
least how to read the instructions.

DON:
I was intersted in hearing of your donations to the Nature Consevancy.
Most of my free time this year has gone to the Sierra Club (I'm chair of
the local group this year). The NC certainly puts the money where it's
needed (buying wildlands).

Disney did have a Chip N Dale Rescue Rangers comic and stories have also
appeared in Disney Adventures.

Heman Melville and F.Scott Fitzgerald also "helped" write some US Mickey
Mouse stories (re-written by Charles Beaumont and William F. Nolan).
Say! DON ROSA: I bet it might have been Beaumont who wrote that
Twilight Zone teleplay that mentions the Junior Woodchucks!
STEVEN ROWE