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Michael Naiman
A little shameless self promotion for the mag I work for:

Comic Book Marketplace...issue #40 (Oct)..after slogging through 40+ pages
of the Neal Adams spotlight portion of the magazine there is a two-page
breath of fresh air entitled "Barks & Taliaferro, the dream team of the
DONALD DUCK DAILIES" by yours truly (but not without the invaluable help of
David Gerstein who doggedly pursued an un-named person to provide me with
the Donald strip)

Issue #41 (Nov) has a knockout article by D. Gerstein entitled "CAT 'O FINE
TALES" a wonderful look at Felix with never before seen reproductions in
the color section.

Issue #42 (Dec) will have an article entitled "HEN'S TEETH & DUCK FEATHERS"
looking at my survey (thanks for those who participated) of those pesky
hard to find, and sometimes obscure duck books. This article does NOT look
at the mo$t valuable...just hard to find. Mag should hit the stands
mid-November.

Those wishing back issues, please contact me.
David Johnson
Hey did anyone see the Disney's 25 annivercy last night.
I did it was greaght. Send me over 100 messages or pay the price.
David Johnson
Hey guys at disney I really enjoyed watching your 25 annivercy on tv last
night. By the way did you know that I want to be an animator. I need
some advice from you. Please send me messages of what I should do to
become an animator.
Harald Havas
MICHAEL
Well, I dont know about the US, but... doing a hard cover for albums
raises the production prize about *gasp* ONE Dollar around here...
All of which doesnt stop publishers to ask for about 10 $ more for the
HC-books...

ARTHUR
>Jippes told me that he hasn't drawn any Barks-Junior Woodchuck-stories.
>And he won't make any more either. He told me that he is working for a German
>publisher now, and they only want him to make stories featuring Donald as the
>main character, so that excludes the JW-scripts. Another disappointment of
>that day! Jippes told me that he had just finished a story with Donald
>and he told me what it was about, but I forgot!

Are you SURE?!? I mean, about the GERMAN publisher?! As far as I
know, Ehapa-Germany is the only Disney-Comics-producer in Germany,
and they do nothing but reprints. I mean, I never heard of a book
with original art by Ehapa - has anybody else? The only thing that
comes to mind is the "Minnie-Magazin" that has been published by a
small Austrian company before the rights returned to Ehapa.
So the question remains: do they produce comics? And from Jippes
even? The only other explanation I have is that it could be an
advertisement gig - producing short stories for Nestle as freebies
for some products of theirs. Who can investigate this?

DAVID
>Br'er Fox has a Sis Fox to serve as his love interest? Wonder how
>often this character has appeared (I've never seen her, myself).

Well, me neither. In the character card she's shown with a yellow hat
with two feathers, a green dress (old-fashioned), a yellow necklace,
a red handbag and (one?) blue glove. All this and lipstick too. Her
name's given as "Fraulein Fuchs" (Erika? ;-)

Speaking of this - maybe there IS use for my reading and posting of
the CC (character cards) here after all? Besides obvious nonsense
("What would XY do with a million Taler?") they seem to give accurate
and interesting facts. For example, I forgot that Daisy as heroine
("Super-Daisy"? Still no answer as to her English name) uses
runners/skids(?) on her shoes in order to glide/skate through the
streets (unlikely but inventive). The card reminded me of that fact.

OTOH I received only negative (two - and one neutral) responses as to
if I should continue posting these informations (incl.
zodiac-signs). So, speak up, good people!

Duck and cover

Harald

--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
M. Mitchell Marmel
At 1:17 AM 10/13/96 -0400, (Email removed) wrote:

>Apparently, Acclaim has acquired the
>modern Disney license (tv, movie characters), and will be printing
>(reprinting?) stories from Europe.

Ooo!

>This is all rumor, though it came from a reliable source. Considering that
>Marvel has killed their licensed properties division (Barbie, Ren and Stimpy,
>Disney), and that Acclaim is signing major talent to its books, it seems
>believable to me. However, Marvel did publish the Hunchback adaptation, so
>it remains to be seen.

And AaKoT, which was shabbily done...

>Also, it seems that these titles will be distributed to newstands as well,
>which will be a welcome change.

Indeed!

>If anyone has any genres or types of stories they would like to see published
>as comics, let me know, and I'll forward the ideas to Rachel Pollack for
>inclusion in the handbook.

More Rescue Rangers, more Tale Spin! (grin)

-MMM-
Fumetti
Sorry to say that (even if we creators really do love the so-called "Disney"
characters) the guy who wrote that article
(http://www.comune.modena.it/glamazonia/articoli/misfatti.htm) is well
informed. He could be someone working inside the "empire of evil"...
But, as we say from time to time, there is a BIG difference among the
characters (created during the years by wonderful professionals) and the
firm (which is even a multinational one!)... Sigh!
Gianfranco Goria, cartoonist and comics divulger: (Email removed)
president of Anonima Fumetti - Italian cartoonists society: (Email removed)
http://www.alpcom.it/fumetti/
Deckerd
On Oct 15, 12:06pm, David Johnson wrote:
> Subject: letter
> Hey guys at disney I really enjoyed watching your 25 annivercy on tv
last
> night.

Uhm...I think there are some things you need to know about
the Disney comics mailing list.

1. The ML is mainly a gathering of fans and some professionals
who talk about Disney comic books. It is not an official
operation of the Disney organization. I doubt if Disney even
knows about the ML on any official level, though individual
employees might be lurking here.

2. The professionals who post here are mainly writers and
artists for the comic books, which in turn are mainly published
by licensed but independent companies, not by Disney itself. As
far as I know, no one here speaks for the Disney organization.

3. Most of the emphasis here is on the comic books featuring
the classic characters (Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, etc.). "Modern"
Disney (that is, Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin,
Pocahontas, Hunchback...) doesn't get discussed much, and even
then usually only as far as their comic-book appearances are
concerned.

> By the way did you know that I want to be an animator. I need
> some advice from you. Please send me messages of what I should
> do to become an animator.
>
I'm not an animator, so all I can do is pass along what I've
heard here and there. I guess the important thing is to learn
how to draw. I saw in an article where one animation studio
manager said he was looking for people who can draw -- they can
be taught how to use computers, but they have to know how to
draw in the first place. That includes learning how things
are shaped, how they move in space, how light and shadow affect
the appearance of moving three-dimensional shapes, perspective.
Also: study animated cartoons. Tape them and take a look at them
one frame at a time. Get a feel for limitations as well as
possibilities. See how the professional animators who make their
living at it are solving their problems. Study books, both on how
to draw and on animated cartoons in particular. In fact there's
a new book out by (I think) the animator Milt Gray that specifically
addresses the requirements of becoming an animated cartoonist.
If you don't find it in the art/cartooning section of your local
big bookstore (like Borders or Barnes & Noble), there will be
other books you might find helpful. But for the moment, the first
thing and the simplest advice I can give is learn how to draw. And
draw, draw, draw, draw.

--Dwight Decker
Dan Shane
DWIGHT:

I refer to the mix of astrology and a discussion of Disney comics as
unsuitable from my point of view, since Harald was asking for personal
opinions about how we felt on the subject. If he hadn't made the request,
I certainly wouldn't have bothered to mention it.

As I said, I don't confuse "magic" as presented in the media with false
religious practices that are in wide use, so Magica's antics are okay by
me. But we have presidents of large countries consulting the stars to
discern how to govern, and I find it distasteful to even consider the
giving the subject any pretense of credibility, but that's jsut me and
fellow Jehovah's Witnesses. I'm not going to force anyone else to
subscribe to that.
Markoff
I'm just back from a rather forced one-day vacation (translation: a mission
of taking a standardized pre-college test), and now I can answer some
burning questions in recent digests:

DWIGHT:
I remember Harry's datbase used to list the Dutch title of "The Last Voyage
of Ringtail Van Dukke" as "Het Geld van Deckselsen Duck." I don't know
Dutch, but that means "The Money of Deckselsen Duck," right?

DAVID:
>Esteban's first name is not Bartholomew, and what's worse, I'm
>responsible for that mistake. I copied some credits inaccurately once and
>referred to a story as having been drawn by "Bartholomew Esteban" when it
>was written by Bob Bartholomew, and drawn by Esteban (whose first name is
>as yet unknown to me). I think this was in a letter I sent to an early
>Gladstone. Oh, the shame of it! (pulls bag over head)

I saw this in a letter in Donald Duck Adventures 27 where you were saying
that "Bartholomew Esteban" was the artist of an uncredited gag in DDA 24.

My reason for agreeing that Esteban was the artist of "On the Ball" and
"Cousin Bruce McDuck" was it looked like "Golden Oldies" in USA 23 which
Gladstone said was drawn by him. OTOH, "The Secret of the Stone" in US 271
which Disney said was Santanach looks nothing like "OtB" and "CBM."
Actually, it just said "Santanach," not "Tino Santanach," so are there two
artists with that last name?

TALIAFERRO:
I know he's not a member of this list, but I have this suggestion to
Gladstone: why not just print "landmarks" that are especially important
among his work, rather than every single thing he ever did?

MARCO:

**SPOILER**

In the last panel of "The Lemming With the Locket," HDL say "And it's GOLD
all the way through--COLOR, that is!"

**END OF SPOILER**

--Jonathan Markoff
Jacob Sparre Andersen
It looks like I will have to admit that I'm one of those uneducated guys
that doesn't know much, if any, Italian.

Is there a chance that somebody would translate the "empire of evil" article
<URL:http://www.comune.modena.it/glamazonia/articoli/misfatti.htm>? It sounds
like it is worth reading.

Greetings,

Jacob
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SRoweCanoe
Dave Gerstein wrote:
<< Sis Molly Rabbit derives from the original African-American legends
of Br'er Rabbit, tho' I don't know if she was named Molly anywhere until
the late 1940s Sunday strips. I seem to recall her being "Miss Meadows" in
the Joel Chandler Harris version.>>
While i never read the Harris original (I have driven past his house in
Georgia several times); I should point out that these are
Africian-American/Native American legends. Some of these stories have
Cherokee ancestors. It's been 2o years since I've read the source for this
observation, but I believe it was a anthropology text by a Mooney from the
turn of the century of myths and legends of the Cherokee. Let me point out
that Harris did live in or near Cherokee country. ((Just another
wacky triva staement))

Oh, I haven't had time to read it, yet ... but congrats on the Felix the Cat
book!!
It looks great, and everyone reading and lourking on this mailing list needs
to buy a copy, to see how Felix influenced Mickey Mouse.
Steven Rowe

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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #226
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Marco Barlotti
I did it! I could at last ANSWER a question! Oh boy I'm feeling great!
I found the story at once! Well, let me calm down and put the things straight.
On Mon, 14 Oct 1996 Harald Havas wrote:

>in German Micky Maus 49/1963 LVD states in a panel (p. 3) that he is
>born in Vienna
>But, you all being such experts, it might be possible to recognize
>the stories from _ONE_ panel:

Am I becoming an expert? Or was it sheer luck?
>
>- in the first one, a laughing VD states that "his christmas tree will
>be the moste tasteful one of all the town, without any doubt" -
>because "I'm a born Viennese"

The story is from Dell Giant Comics 53 (December 1961), art by Tony Strobl
and inks (as usual in those years, I guess) by Liggera. I couldn't find it
on "our" data base, though, so I can't tell the title. It's a very short story.
In my (Italian) version, LVD says: "my tree will be the most tasteful of all
the town, without any doubt - because I'm a genius!"

That "genius" stuff is usual in those early LVD stories, at least it is a
recurring argument in the Italian translation!
Now who's got that DGC 53?

(After all, I identified the story all right, but couldn't really answer the
basic question. So I guess I have a lot to go before becoming a "real"
expert...)

Marco
Christer Hanssen
Through the last weeks the norwegian publisher has released two new series
of Disney comics. The first is about Super-Duck. This is one of those
high-tech hypo action things and is called "The time-thief "(Tidstyven). The
last pages is an appendix (a glimps in Super DUcks secret archive)over Super
Ducks weapons and equipment and over some of the main persons, with history
etc. on them (really sci-fi). It hasn't got a story code, but it looks
Italian. Someone who reckons it?

The second is a (ca.)128-pager of The Junior Woodchucks. This also seems to
contain Italian stories, but I haven't checked it out yet. It looks like
Egmont now go heavy on with Italian stories.

~Christer
Deckerd
On Oct 15, 8:35pm, markoff wrote:
> Subject: Re: Recent digests

> DWIGHT:
> I remember Harry's datbase used to list the Dutch title of "The Last
Voyage
> of Ringtail Van Dukke" as "Het Geld van Deckselsen Duck." I don't
know
> Dutch, but that means "The Money of Deckselsen Duck," right?
>
Oops. Me and my porous memory. Yes, "Geld" means money ("het" is
"the" spelled sideways!). Anyway, "The Last Voyage of..." is
definitely a better title ("Ringtail van Dukke" was mine, but
the "Last Voyage" part came from somebody in Prescott).

--Dwijt van Dukker
Per Starback
Yes, it's Fauntleroy in "Donald gets drafted". You can find it in
print in the book sometimes called "Donald Duck Blue", that is the
blue book really just titled "Donald Duck" by Marcia Blitz.

How "canon" it is you have to decide for yourself, as usual.
But why wouldn't his full name be Donald Fauntleroy Duck? OK, so it
doesn't "have a ring to it" -- maybe that's why he doesn't use that
name himself.
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