On Oct 25, 8:26am, Don Rosa wrote:
> That reminds me, Byron, my last idea to you was to be paid by
> ounce-of-ink rather than page; now I think a better idea is to be
paid by
> the panel on the scale of 1/8th the normal page rate per panel. Hm?
>
I've got an even better idea. Piece work. Work out a scale so
you're paid a set amount for each needless and irritating detail
(with a bonus for each "D.U.C.K." Byron can't find). It's win-win --
you get rich, we fans get all the lusciously detailed Rosa art we
love so much.
Dwight (always helpful) Decker
Author
Topic: 199610
(312 messages)
Deckerd
Disney comics Digest V96 #234
Message 271 -
1996-10-25 at 18:42:06
Marco Barlotti
Daniel's Barks Encyclopaedia
Message 272 -
1996-10-25 at 20:13:27
Now, now, all ye listen to this.
How can WE (the LIST!) let one of us (Daniel) incidentally say that he has
been "busy making a <Barks Encyclopaedia> which should contain every name
and place mentioned in a Barks-story" and let him go like this?
Shouldn't we ask him to
(1) if possible, send a copy of this Encyclopaedia (uncomplete as it may be)
to Harry/Per for the database.
(2) in any case, privately send this stuff to those of us (I am one!) who
are interested.
??????????????????????
I think we should. So I'm asking him.
Daniel, pleeeeeease, be a good guy and send us whatever you have done. From
your ACME research, it seems such a good work it does NOT deserve to be lost.
Thanx,
Marco
How can WE (the LIST!) let one of us (Daniel) incidentally say that he has
been "busy making a <Barks Encyclopaedia> which should contain every name
and place mentioned in a Barks-story" and let him go like this?
Shouldn't we ask him to
(1) if possible, send a copy of this Encyclopaedia (uncomplete as it may be)
to Harry/Per for the database.
(2) in any case, privately send this stuff to those of us (I am one!) who
are interested.
??????????????????????
I think we should. So I'm asking him.
Daniel, pleeeeeease, be a good guy and send us whatever you have done. From
your ACME research, it seems such a good work it does NOT deserve to be lost.
Thanx,
Marco
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #234
Message 273 -
1996-10-25 at 21:51:04
BYRON:
Good to see you back. You've really given Augie something to run with!
HARALD, re Asterix:
>So, if "The Secret Weapon" contained the story of a woman "taking over" the
>Gaul borrow, and showed (very sexy) female Roman troops - that's the one.
And so it is. The "Secret Weapon" of the title are the female Roman troops.
Interesting process, translations.
Gary
------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
------------------------------------------------
Good to see you back. You've really given Augie something to run with!
HARALD, re Asterix:
>So, if "The Secret Weapon" contained the story of a woman "taking over" the
>Gaul borrow, and showed (very sexy) female Roman troops - that's the one.
And so it is. The "Secret Weapon" of the title are the female Roman troops.
Interesting process, translations.
Gary
------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
------------------------------------------------
Markoff
Fredrik's Olé issues & The Moving Money Bin
Message 274 -
1996-10-26 at 17:49:00
FREDRIK:
Could you post a list of the (complete) contents of your "Ol=E9! Disney"
issues on the list?
ARTHUR:
And how about that with your one es issue? ("Es" is the internet abbr. for
Spain.)
DAVID,GARY:
I knew the code for "The Moving Money Bin" was wrong because I tried
entering it in the database and it led to a different story instead. (Or is
the db wrong?)
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #235
******************************************
Could you post a list of the (complete) contents of your "Ol=E9! Disney"
issues on the list?
ARTHUR:
And how about that with your one es issue? ("Es" is the internet abbr. for
Spain.)
DAVID,GARY:
I knew the code for "The Moving Money Bin" was wrong because I tried
entering it in the database and it led to a different story instead. (Or is
the db wrong?)
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #235
******************************************
Markoff
Disney comics Digest V96 #235
Message 275 -
1996-10-26 at 18:57:14
DON (AND RICH):
>What about this "Wanda Waddle"? Was somebody gonna tell me who she is?
That's exactly what I want to know! Come to think of it, the name sounds
familiar. Is that a character from the "S-coded" stories?
OTA:
>Can someone tell me in which Barks story the Ducks and Gyro Gearloose go
>to another planet (or an asteroid) that is completely underdevelopped...
>and after Gyro creates one of his inventions, every inhabitant of that
>planet becomes an inventor? The result is, some hours after, the planet
>advances 1000 years...
>I read that story as a child and i'm trying to find it. Eventually I
>have that story somewhere in my collection, but I am curious to find it.
>I have many of the american Disney comics (Gold key) and some Gladstone
>paperbacks and also a lot of brazilian translations but I need a clue...
>at least the title of that story!!
>Please, if someone knows, tell me!!!
That's "Gyro Gearloose and Gus Goose on the Dream Planet." The Gladstone
reprints of the story are DD 267 and CBL of Gyro in Color 2. BTW, the Ducks
weren't in it, just Gyro and Gus.
--Jonathan Markoff
>What about this "Wanda Waddle"? Was somebody gonna tell me who she is?
That's exactly what I want to know! Come to think of it, the name sounds
familiar. Is that a character from the "S-coded" stories?
OTA:
>Can someone tell me in which Barks story the Ducks and Gyro Gearloose go
>to another planet (or an asteroid) that is completely underdevelopped...
>and after Gyro creates one of his inventions, every inhabitant of that
>planet becomes an inventor? The result is, some hours after, the planet
>advances 1000 years...
>I read that story as a child and i'm trying to find it. Eventually I
>have that story somewhere in my collection, but I am curious to find it.
>I have many of the american Disney comics (Gold key) and some Gladstone
>paperbacks and also a lot of brazilian translations but I need a clue...
>at least the title of that story!!
>Please, if someone knows, tell me!!!
That's "Gyro Gearloose and Gus Goose on the Dream Planet." The Gladstone
reprints of the story are DD 267 and CBL of Gyro in Color 2. BTW, the Ducks
weren't in it, just Gyro and Gus.
--Jonathan Markoff
Shaun M. Knowler
Ota's long-lost story
Message 276 -
1996-10-27 at 01:29:46
OTA:
The only Barks story I can think of that you're discribing is called "Gyro
Gearloose and Gus Goose on the Dream Planet". The story is about a planet
that lies beyond Pluto that lazy Gus dreams about. Gyro takes him there in
a spacecraft, and upon arrival, Gyro sets off a chain-reaction of
technological advances, until Gus' dream planet becomes a nightmare. My
copy of the story is in DD #267 from Gladstone's first run.
-$haun
The only Barks story I can think of that you're discribing is called "Gyro
Gearloose and Gus Goose on the Dream Planet". The story is about a planet
that lies beyond Pluto that lazy Gus dreams about. Gyro takes him there in
a spacecraft, and upon arrival, Gyro sets off a chain-reaction of
technological advances, until Gus' dream planet becomes a nightmare. My
copy of the story is in DD #267 from Gladstone's first run.
-$haun
RMorris306
Recent Disney Digests
Message 277 -
1996-10-27 at 03:00:00
Hi! A lot of interesting stuff since I last posted...
WANDA WADDLE:
I confess I'm not the expert on Duck trivia a lot of people are (though
I know Superman and Batman trivia...at least pre-Crisis Superman and Batman
trivia..inside out) so I couldn't cite chapter and verse of her first
appearance. I remember her most clearly from another fan publication: Jack
Chalker's UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY OF $CROOGE McDUCK. Much as Don Rosa would do
later, he went over Scrooge's life in chronological order, relating that
Scrooge mentioned Wanda as a duck he used to go rowing with shortly after he
moved to Duckburg. (Not unlike Brigitta, and for all I know she may not have
been a Barks character either, hence rendering her irrelevant to Don's
research.)
R.I.P.
I still doubt the list was official policy, which is just as well...I'm
basically convinced there are only bad stories, not bad characters (though
Kyle Rayner and Venom, at DC and Marvel respectively, really strain my
hypothesis). A part of me, like the rest of us, would like to add other
characters to the list. April, May and June were suggested, but I couldn't
imagine that he'd want to add Barks characters to the list...until I realized
it already included a Barks character, since $crooge's butler (not only a
Barks character, but one dating back to "Christmas on Bear Mountain") was on
it.
But my more rational self realizes there's still a lot of potential in
other characters on the list. Emil Eagle in particular I'd like to see Don
Rosa take a crack at. He'd fit perfectly into the niche occupied by one of my
favorite characters from his "Pertwillaby Papers" series of the '70's,
Professor Viktor Smyte. So far Don has used Gyro Gearloose in his role, but
Smyte had a particularly nasty streak that Gyro (and most other Disney
characters in that vein, like Ludwig von Drake or Dr. Einmug) don't. Unless
Don would rather bring back Dr. Ecks and Dubbilex (if DC doesn't sue for the
latter)...?
SPEAKING OF DC/TIME WARNER TRADEMARKS...
Since intellectual property happens to be one of my areas of expertise
(one of a very few in my largely negligible legal career), my own considered
opinion is that Warner Bros. couldn't successfully defend a trademark on
"Acme." Defense (as opposed to registration) of a trademark requires priority
and/or exclusivity, and Warner has neither. As has been pointed out, they
*did* successfully trademark "Daily Planet" for the name of Clark Kent's
newspaper, and prevented real papers from using it (with the exception, fully
authorized, of one in Metropolis, Illinois). But, for that very reason, DC
introduced that name in the third year of Superman's run, replacing the
original name used by Siegel and Shuster--"The Daily Star," a name that, like
"Acme," was and still is used by numerous real companies.
555 NUMBERS:
This subject came up in CAPA-alpha not too long ago. It's become a
literal cliche in the United States--so much so that in the Arnold
Schwarznegger movie THE LAST ACTION HERO, which dealt with a movie character
coming to life (so I'm told...I didn't see the movie. Not many people did--it
was a notorious flop--but it sounds like the same basic concept as Woody
Allen's THE PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO, which I *did* see), the fictional
character was surprised to encounter phone numbers *not* beginning with 555.
Yet, as was also noted, the companies are running out of numbers all the
time, so even some of those numbers will soon be in use.
Which is what led to the problem in the first place, I'd think. There
was a time when people would simply make up numbers if they needed them, or
use their own. Rex Stout often gave Nero Wolfe's telephone number...*after*
checking with New York Telephone to make sure the number wasn't in use. And
so it wasn't when Stout wrote that book...but the books remained in print for
years, and I daresay people who later got those numbers weren't that happy to
get calls for Nero Wolfe. Even using one's own number or that of a friend
(like Al Taliaferro, or Charles Schulz, who once used the number of Alan
Mendelssohn, producer of the Peanuts cartoons, in his strip) has unforseen
pitfalls. A local writer named Robert Cormier once used his number in a
young-adult novel called I AM THE CHEESE, which proved to be much more
successful than anticipated and, at least a few months ago, was still in
print. At least he understands when he gets calls for "Amy" (the character in
the book the number belonged to), but his native Leominster, like my
Framingham, was then in the 617 area code. Eight years ago, NYNEX had to
introduce a new area code for our area, 508, so I don't envy whoever (in the
Back Bay area of Boston...as a NYNEX employee, I know these exchanges) gets
his old 537 number with his original area code!
For that matter, the types who call numbers in books aren't always the
type to remember area codes...meaning an existing number in a book or comic
strip affects not only its real owner, but over 50 other potential owners of
that number in other areas. All in all, I envy those people who get 555
numbers even less...they'll be bombarded with calls whenever a certain TV
show is rerun, no doubt!
DONALD'S SUPPORTING CAST:
An interesting index of the characters created by various people, with
the vast majority going to Barks and Taliaferro, though a few semi-regulars
by other hands (Scarpa's Brigitta, possibly Van Horn's Uncle Rumpus) might
also qualify. Someone said here that Taliaferro wasn't much of a Barks fan
(or maybe he just resented all the attention Barks got?): possibly borne out
by the fact that, while Barks used Taliaferro's characters all the time (even
Bolivar the dog...who I seem to recall became "Bornworthy" after the South
Americans thought the original name demeaned their hero), Taliaferro didn't
use Barks's much. Someone documented that, though he brought Scrooge into his
cast (though not till the early '60's), he never did use Gyro (preferring
Ludwig when he needed such a type), nor, to my knowledge, any of the Barks
villains.
Quack!
Rich Morrissey
WANDA WADDLE:
I confess I'm not the expert on Duck trivia a lot of people are (though
I know Superman and Batman trivia...at least pre-Crisis Superman and Batman
trivia..inside out) so I couldn't cite chapter and verse of her first
appearance. I remember her most clearly from another fan publication: Jack
Chalker's UNAUTHORIZED BIOGRAPHY OF $CROOGE McDUCK. Much as Don Rosa would do
later, he went over Scrooge's life in chronological order, relating that
Scrooge mentioned Wanda as a duck he used to go rowing with shortly after he
moved to Duckburg. (Not unlike Brigitta, and for all I know she may not have
been a Barks character either, hence rendering her irrelevant to Don's
research.)
R.I.P.
I still doubt the list was official policy, which is just as well...I'm
basically convinced there are only bad stories, not bad characters (though
Kyle Rayner and Venom, at DC and Marvel respectively, really strain my
hypothesis). A part of me, like the rest of us, would like to add other
characters to the list. April, May and June were suggested, but I couldn't
imagine that he'd want to add Barks characters to the list...until I realized
it already included a Barks character, since $crooge's butler (not only a
Barks character, but one dating back to "Christmas on Bear Mountain") was on
it.
But my more rational self realizes there's still a lot of potential in
other characters on the list. Emil Eagle in particular I'd like to see Don
Rosa take a crack at. He'd fit perfectly into the niche occupied by one of my
favorite characters from his "Pertwillaby Papers" series of the '70's,
Professor Viktor Smyte. So far Don has used Gyro Gearloose in his role, but
Smyte had a particularly nasty streak that Gyro (and most other Disney
characters in that vein, like Ludwig von Drake or Dr. Einmug) don't. Unless
Don would rather bring back Dr. Ecks and Dubbilex (if DC doesn't sue for the
latter)...?
SPEAKING OF DC/TIME WARNER TRADEMARKS...
Since intellectual property happens to be one of my areas of expertise
(one of a very few in my largely negligible legal career), my own considered
opinion is that Warner Bros. couldn't successfully defend a trademark on
"Acme." Defense (as opposed to registration) of a trademark requires priority
and/or exclusivity, and Warner has neither. As has been pointed out, they
*did* successfully trademark "Daily Planet" for the name of Clark Kent's
newspaper, and prevented real papers from using it (with the exception, fully
authorized, of one in Metropolis, Illinois). But, for that very reason, DC
introduced that name in the third year of Superman's run, replacing the
original name used by Siegel and Shuster--"The Daily Star," a name that, like
"Acme," was and still is used by numerous real companies.
555 NUMBERS:
This subject came up in CAPA-alpha not too long ago. It's become a
literal cliche in the United States--so much so that in the Arnold
Schwarznegger movie THE LAST ACTION HERO, which dealt with a movie character
coming to life (so I'm told...I didn't see the movie. Not many people did--it
was a notorious flop--but it sounds like the same basic concept as Woody
Allen's THE PURPLE ROSE OF CAIRO, which I *did* see), the fictional
character was surprised to encounter phone numbers *not* beginning with 555.
Yet, as was also noted, the companies are running out of numbers all the
time, so even some of those numbers will soon be in use.
Which is what led to the problem in the first place, I'd think. There
was a time when people would simply make up numbers if they needed them, or
use their own. Rex Stout often gave Nero Wolfe's telephone number...*after*
checking with New York Telephone to make sure the number wasn't in use. And
so it wasn't when Stout wrote that book...but the books remained in print for
years, and I daresay people who later got those numbers weren't that happy to
get calls for Nero Wolfe. Even using one's own number or that of a friend
(like Al Taliaferro, or Charles Schulz, who once used the number of Alan
Mendelssohn, producer of the Peanuts cartoons, in his strip) has unforseen
pitfalls. A local writer named Robert Cormier once used his number in a
young-adult novel called I AM THE CHEESE, which proved to be much more
successful than anticipated and, at least a few months ago, was still in
print. At least he understands when he gets calls for "Amy" (the character in
the book the number belonged to), but his native Leominster, like my
Framingham, was then in the 617 area code. Eight years ago, NYNEX had to
introduce a new area code for our area, 508, so I don't envy whoever (in the
Back Bay area of Boston...as a NYNEX employee, I know these exchanges) gets
his old 537 number with his original area code!
For that matter, the types who call numbers in books aren't always the
type to remember area codes...meaning an existing number in a book or comic
strip affects not only its real owner, but over 50 other potential owners of
that number in other areas. All in all, I envy those people who get 555
numbers even less...they'll be bombarded with calls whenever a certain TV
show is rerun, no doubt!
DONALD'S SUPPORTING CAST:
An interesting index of the characters created by various people, with
the vast majority going to Barks and Taliaferro, though a few semi-regulars
by other hands (Scarpa's Brigitta, possibly Van Horn's Uncle Rumpus) might
also qualify. Someone said here that Taliaferro wasn't much of a Barks fan
(or maybe he just resented all the attention Barks got?): possibly borne out
by the fact that, while Barks used Taliaferro's characters all the time (even
Bolivar the dog...who I seem to recall became "Bornworthy" after the South
Americans thought the original name demeaned their hero), Taliaferro didn't
use Barks's much. Someone documented that, though he brought Scrooge into his
cast (though not till the early '60's), he never did use Gyro (preferring
Ludwig when he needed such a type), nor, to my knowledge, any of the Barks
villains.
Quack!
Rich Morrissey
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Gladstone Comics for January 1997
Message 278 -
1996-10-27 at 03:19:27
The on-line Smash Magazine (http://smash.mgz.com) has uploaded the releases
upcoming for January. Here is the text from that site for Gladstone's
Comics. Please note that there's TWO Don Rosa stories complete in one issue
this month! About friggin' time! Thanks, Gladstone, for printing Matter
of Some Gravity all in one issue. I will not hesitant spending $7 for that
issue. And with a Rosa cover... ::drool::
-Augie
P.S. All typos (and there are a few) are Smash Magazine's!
- - - - -
THE PENNY PINCHER #1
by Carl Barks
Release Date: January 13
A three-issue monthly mini-series featuring some of Donald Duck's most
memorable clashes with his next-door nemesis, Neighbor Jones. THE PENNY
PINCHER #1 contains "The Purloined Putty" from WDC&S #48. This
much-requested classic, written and drawn by Carl Barks, which has not seen
print in comic form for a number of years, pits the two protagonists against
one another in a dispute over who rightfully owns a container of ten-cent
putty. The issue is rounded-out by the two pages from "Good Deeds" (WDC&S
#34) that featured the first appearance of Neighbor Jones.
WALT DISNEY'S COMICS #610
by Various
Release Date: January 27
Featured this issue: "Treasures Untold" -- William Van Horn's latest Donald
Duck 10-pager recounts Donald's travails in dealing with a mysterious trunk
that is given to him by an equally mysterious stranger. "A Matter of Some
Gravity" -- Magica De Spell uses one of the most powerful forces in nature
against Scrooge and Donald in her latest attempt to acquire Scrooge's
legendary number one dime. This 16-page adventure by Don Rosa is presented
complete in this issue. "THE MAIL PILOT" -- Part One of the latest classic
Mickey Mouse adventure by Floyd Gottfredson. This epic tale, which ran for
four months in 1933, pits Mickey against his old nemeses Peg Leg Pete and
Eli Squinch when the plucky Mouse investigates a mysterious series of
mid-air plane disappearances.
The above, combined with other features and articles, is wrapped with a new
cover by Don Rosa depicting a scene from his story.
DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES #43
by Don Rosa
Release Date: January 13
"The Lost Charts of Columbus," Don Rosa's latest offering. In this story,
Donald's overly lucky cousin, Gladstone Gander, causes trouble (what else?)
when he hooks the fabled Golden Helmet while deep sea fishing (Barks
aficionados know that the helmet grants its possessor title to the whole of
North America). This leads to a free for all as heroes and villains alike
vie for control of the newly unleashed power of the potent artifact.
UNCLE SCROOGE #303
by Various
Release Date: January 13
Features "Rocks to Riche," from WDC&S #241, by Carl Barks, in which Donald
believes he has ruined Uncle Scrooge's collection of precious gems in his
new rock polisher and undertakes to prospect a new set. Also appearing in
this issue is "The Case of the Gold Bars," by Tom Strobl, which pits Gyro
Gearloose against the Beagle Boys, and the "Pilfering Millionaire," by the
popular European artist Vicar, in which Scrooge enlists Donald's assistance
in hosting a function for wealthy dignitaries, but winds up with one guest
who is more than he bargained for.
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES #45
by Various
Release Date: January 13
Contains "The Secret of the Duckburg Triangle," a feature-length story that
was produced by the Disney Studios to run in their own line of comic books,
but was never published -- until now. Follow Scrooge, Donald, Heuy, Dewey
and Louie as they face the terrible Beagle Boys as well as a sea serpent
while in search of an ancient sunken treasure vessel that is lost in the
depths of the legendary Ducksburg Triangle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
(Email removed)
http://www.nic.com/~augie/two/two.htm
upcoming for January. Here is the text from that site for Gladstone's
Comics. Please note that there's TWO Don Rosa stories complete in one issue
this month! About friggin' time! Thanks, Gladstone, for printing Matter
of Some Gravity all in one issue. I will not hesitant spending $7 for that
issue. And with a Rosa cover... ::drool::
-Augie
P.S. All typos (and there are a few) are Smash Magazine's!
- - - - -
THE PENNY PINCHER #1
by Carl Barks
Release Date: January 13
A three-issue monthly mini-series featuring some of Donald Duck's most
memorable clashes with his next-door nemesis, Neighbor Jones. THE PENNY
PINCHER #1 contains "The Purloined Putty" from WDC&S #48. This
much-requested classic, written and drawn by Carl Barks, which has not seen
print in comic form for a number of years, pits the two protagonists against
one another in a dispute over who rightfully owns a container of ten-cent
putty. The issue is rounded-out by the two pages from "Good Deeds" (WDC&S
#34) that featured the first appearance of Neighbor Jones.
WALT DISNEY'S COMICS #610
by Various
Release Date: January 27
Featured this issue: "Treasures Untold" -- William Van Horn's latest Donald
Duck 10-pager recounts Donald's travails in dealing with a mysterious trunk
that is given to him by an equally mysterious stranger. "A Matter of Some
Gravity" -- Magica De Spell uses one of the most powerful forces in nature
against Scrooge and Donald in her latest attempt to acquire Scrooge's
legendary number one dime. This 16-page adventure by Don Rosa is presented
complete in this issue. "THE MAIL PILOT" -- Part One of the latest classic
Mickey Mouse adventure by Floyd Gottfredson. This epic tale, which ran for
four months in 1933, pits Mickey against his old nemeses Peg Leg Pete and
Eli Squinch when the plucky Mouse investigates a mysterious series of
mid-air plane disappearances.
The above, combined with other features and articles, is wrapped with a new
cover by Don Rosa depicting a scene from his story.
DONALD DUCK ADVENTURES #43
by Don Rosa
Release Date: January 13
"The Lost Charts of Columbus," Don Rosa's latest offering. In this story,
Donald's overly lucky cousin, Gladstone Gander, causes trouble (what else?)
when he hooks the fabled Golden Helmet while deep sea fishing (Barks
aficionados know that the helmet grants its possessor title to the whole of
North America). This leads to a free for all as heroes and villains alike
vie for control of the newly unleashed power of the potent artifact.
UNCLE SCROOGE #303
by Various
Release Date: January 13
Features "Rocks to Riche," from WDC&S #241, by Carl Barks, in which Donald
believes he has ruined Uncle Scrooge's collection of precious gems in his
new rock polisher and undertakes to prospect a new set. Also appearing in
this issue is "The Case of the Gold Bars," by Tom Strobl, which pits Gyro
Gearloose against the Beagle Boys, and the "Pilfering Millionaire," by the
popular European artist Vicar, in which Scrooge enlists Donald's assistance
in hosting a function for wealthy dignitaries, but winds up with one guest
who is more than he bargained for.
UNCLE SCROOGE ADVENTURES #45
by Various
Release Date: January 13
Contains "The Secret of the Duckburg Triangle," a feature-length story that
was produced by the Disney Studios to run in their own line of comic books,
but was never published -- until now. Follow Scrooge, Donald, Heuy, Dewey
and Louie as they face the terrible Beagle Boys as well as a sea serpent
while in search of an ancient sunken treasure vessel that is lost in the
depths of the legendary Ducksburg Triangle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
(Email removed)
http://www.nic.com/~augie/two/two.htm
Byron Erickson
It ain't rocket science, folks!
Message 279 -
1996-10-27 at 15:12:33
VILLE SAARI
> Are these 50 pages in three row layout? If so, then according to my
> page count rule, it corresponds to 31 pages in four row layout - just
> 10% more than Don's 28.
Yes, in three row (tier) layout, or a 6-panels-per-page grid. Don works
with an 8-panel-per-page grid. A straight mathematical calculation shows
50 6-panel pages nets 300 panels, while 28 8-panel pages nets 224.
Which as you pointed out, means absolutely nothing. But not just because
we need to use more double and quadruple (and sextuple) panels in the
digest format, and not even because publishing the 6-panel stories at
the smaller size means each single panel can comfortably contain less
than a "full-sized" panel. The main difference is that another kind of
storytelling is required, one that has absolutely nothing to do with
numbers.
It seems to me that what's *on* the page is more important than how many
pages there are. Unless, of course, someone here thinks "Pirate Gold" is
Barks' best story just because it's 64 pages long. Personally, I think
his genius is proved by the fact that he made so many of those 4-page
Gyro stories so memorable.
DON ROSA
> That reminds me, Byron, my last idea to you was to be paid by
> ounce-of-ink rather than page; now I think a better idea is to be paid > by the panel on the scale of 1/8th the normal page rate per panel. Hm?
Hey, I was willing to go for the "ink rate", only I thought "by the
ounce" was ridiculous, considering your work. How much do you want per
*gallon*?
> ARTHUR:
> As Byron can tell you
But only if he engaged in pointless fan debates.
JACOB SPARRE ANDERSEN
> The new Italian "Super Duck" series seems to appear both in Norway and
> Germany. - Why not in Denmark?!? (or has I just missed something very
> important on the newsstands?)
Super Duck (or "Paperinik") is being TESTED in Germany and Norway only.
If it's a smash success, I'm sure it will also be published in Denmark.
The same goes for the Italian Woodchuck magazine.
And for all who wondered, we started testing with the second zero issue
instead of the first for the simple reason that the first zero issue is
not approved by Disney's European Creative Center in Paris. Which is why
there were a lot of changes made in the concept between 0/1 and 0/2.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #236
******************************************
> Are these 50 pages in three row layout? If so, then according to my
> page count rule, it corresponds to 31 pages in four row layout - just
> 10% more than Don's 28.
Yes, in three row (tier) layout, or a 6-panels-per-page grid. Don works
with an 8-panel-per-page grid. A straight mathematical calculation shows
50 6-panel pages nets 300 panels, while 28 8-panel pages nets 224.
Which as you pointed out, means absolutely nothing. But not just because
we need to use more double and quadruple (and sextuple) panels in the
digest format, and not even because publishing the 6-panel stories at
the smaller size means each single panel can comfortably contain less
than a "full-sized" panel. The main difference is that another kind of
storytelling is required, one that has absolutely nothing to do with
numbers.
It seems to me that what's *on* the page is more important than how many
pages there are. Unless, of course, someone here thinks "Pirate Gold" is
Barks' best story just because it's 64 pages long. Personally, I think
his genius is proved by the fact that he made so many of those 4-page
Gyro stories so memorable.
DON ROSA
> That reminds me, Byron, my last idea to you was to be paid by
> ounce-of-ink rather than page; now I think a better idea is to be paid > by the panel on the scale of 1/8th the normal page rate per panel. Hm?
Hey, I was willing to go for the "ink rate", only I thought "by the
ounce" was ridiculous, considering your work. How much do you want per
*gallon*?
> ARTHUR:
> As Byron can tell you
But only if he engaged in pointless fan debates.
JACOB SPARRE ANDERSEN
> The new Italian "Super Duck" series seems to appear both in Norway and
> Germany. - Why not in Denmark?!? (or has I just missed something very
> important on the newsstands?)
Super Duck (or "Paperinik") is being TESTED in Germany and Norway only.
If it's a smash success, I'm sure it will also be published in Denmark.
The same goes for the Italian Woodchuck magazine.
And for all who wondered, we started testing with the second zero issue
instead of the first for the simple reason that the first zero issue is
not approved by Disney's European Creative Center in Paris. Which is why
there were a lot of changes made in the concept between 0/1 and 0/2.
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #236
******************************************
Vsaari
Disney comics Digest V96 #233
Message 280 -
1996-10-28 at 05:29:54
Ota <(Email removed)> writes:
> Can someone tell me in which Barks story the Ducks and Gyro Gearloose go
> to another planet (or an asteroid) that is completely underdevelopped...
> and after Gyro creates one of his inventions, every inhabitant of that
> planet becomes an inventor? The result is, some hours after, the planet
> advances 1000 years...
It's "Gyro Gearloose and Gus Goose on the dream planet".
Check the code W OS 1025-05 in the database.
--
Ville Saari EMail: (Email removed)
Tallbergin puistotie 7 B 21 Phone: +358 9 682 2226
00200 Helsinki
FINLAND /dev/null: write failed, file system is full
> Can someone tell me in which Barks story the Ducks and Gyro Gearloose go
> to another planet (or an asteroid) that is completely underdevelopped...
> and after Gyro creates one of his inventions, every inhabitant of that
> planet becomes an inventor? The result is, some hours after, the planet
> advances 1000 years...
It's "Gyro Gearloose and Gus Goose on the dream planet".
Check the code W OS 1025-05 in the database.
--
Ville Saari EMail: (Email removed)
Tallbergin puistotie 7 B 21 Phone: +358 9 682 2226
00200 Helsinki
FINLAND /dev/null: write failed, file system is full
Gerstein
Disney comics Digest (recent issues)
Message 281 -
1996-10-28 at 15:01:08
HARALD HAVAS:
"Speaking of Bolivar: Beside the fact that in German his name is
usual given as "Berni", didn't they ban the name "Bolivar" decades ago for
political reasons and renamed him "Bully"? Since when is "Bolivar" in use
again?"
Actually, the name usually used instead of Bolivar was "Bernie"
(short for "Bornworthy"), not Bully.
At Egmont, the character's official name is still
Bornworthy/Bernie. Why that German comic (which I saw) calls him Bolivar
is anyone's guess, particularly as it doesn't make sense with past German
comics!
At Disney-Burbank, the character is now officially back to Bolivar
(since 1992, when a decision was made), and had that name in 1992's DDAD
32-33 and last spring's DDA 38 (among others).
I prefer the name Bolivar.
RICH MORRISSEY:
Nothing's wrong (vis-a-vis DC) with using Profs. Ecks and Doublex,
except that I think Egmont has a rule that Mickey-universe characters can't
appear in a Donald story.
Actually, no one really needs to "bring them back" -- Disney Comics
did a continuity wherein the two had accidentally turned themselves into
Siamese twins via a fouled-up experiment, and the King Features daily strip
used them several times from 1990-94.
The two (along with their brother Triplex) are actually in the
Mickey story I'm finishing right now, as well as perhaps in other Egmont
stories.
Another Taliaferro character used by Barks is Bolivar's pup
Behemoth. Barks used him in one or two panels of the WDC&S 111 (love
letter) story, identified by name and drawn perfectly, but never again.
"Track 'em down, Behe! This case is strictly desperate!"
GARY LEACH:
Egmont published Don's "Lost Charts of Columbus" with an original
cover by Don. Do you guys have that cover? (Maybe you do, and it's
illustrated in PREVIEWS, but I haven't seen that yet this week.)
Egmont must have given Gladstone the wrong writer credit for "The
Moving Money Bin," for Jim Kenner died ten years ago, while "Bin" has a
1990s D-code. Which means that --
BYRON [you there, Byron?] should be able to correct the erroneous
Egmont credit for us. (I guess you have recent Gladstones lying around the
office somewhere?)
AUGIE DE BLIECK:
Actually, Sylvester Shyster is Pete's partner in "The Mail Pilot,"
rather than Eli Squinch (who hadn't yet debuted in 1933). I particularly
like Shyster, that hammy wannabe Victorian villain.
I talked to Pat Block last week, who mentioned that he'd drawn the
cover for the S-coded "Duckburg Triangle" story in USA #45.
Good to hear that "The Purloined Putty" is scheduled for a reprint
(in PENNY PINCHER #1). Really one of the best Jones stories, and never
reprinted in a comic book before. This is the kind of Barks story I'd much
rather see than the umpteenth reprint of, say, "Land Beneath the Ground"
(great, of course, but rather tired after so many reprints).
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)
"Speaking of Bolivar: Beside the fact that in German his name is
usual given as "Berni", didn't they ban the name "Bolivar" decades ago for
political reasons and renamed him "Bully"? Since when is "Bolivar" in use
again?"
Actually, the name usually used instead of Bolivar was "Bernie"
(short for "Bornworthy"), not Bully.
At Egmont, the character's official name is still
Bornworthy/Bernie. Why that German comic (which I saw) calls him Bolivar
is anyone's guess, particularly as it doesn't make sense with past German
comics!
At Disney-Burbank, the character is now officially back to Bolivar
(since 1992, when a decision was made), and had that name in 1992's DDAD
32-33 and last spring's DDA 38 (among others).
I prefer the name Bolivar.
RICH MORRISSEY:
Nothing's wrong (vis-a-vis DC) with using Profs. Ecks and Doublex,
except that I think Egmont has a rule that Mickey-universe characters can't
appear in a Donald story.
Actually, no one really needs to "bring them back" -- Disney Comics
did a continuity wherein the two had accidentally turned themselves into
Siamese twins via a fouled-up experiment, and the King Features daily strip
used them several times from 1990-94.
The two (along with their brother Triplex) are actually in the
Mickey story I'm finishing right now, as well as perhaps in other Egmont
stories.
Another Taliaferro character used by Barks is Bolivar's pup
Behemoth. Barks used him in one or two panels of the WDC&S 111 (love
letter) story, identified by name and drawn perfectly, but never again.
"Track 'em down, Behe! This case is strictly desperate!"
GARY LEACH:
Egmont published Don's "Lost Charts of Columbus" with an original
cover by Don. Do you guys have that cover? (Maybe you do, and it's
illustrated in PREVIEWS, but I haven't seen that yet this week.)
Egmont must have given Gladstone the wrong writer credit for "The
Moving Money Bin," for Jim Kenner died ten years ago, while "Bin" has a
1990s D-code. Which means that --
BYRON [you there, Byron?] should be able to correct the erroneous
Egmont credit for us. (I guess you have recent Gladstones lying around the
office somewhere?)
AUGIE DE BLIECK:
Actually, Sylvester Shyster is Pete's partner in "The Mail Pilot,"
rather than Eli Squinch (who hadn't yet debuted in 1933). I particularly
like Shyster, that hammy wannabe Victorian villain.
I talked to Pat Block last week, who mentioned that he'd drawn the
cover for the S-coded "Duckburg Triangle" story in USA #45.
Good to hear that "The Purloined Putty" is scheduled for a reprint
(in PENNY PINCHER #1). Really one of the best Jones stories, and never
reprinted in a comic book before. This is the kind of Barks story I'd much
rather see than the umpteenth reprint of, say, "Land Beneath the Ground"
(great, of course, but rather tired after so many reprints).
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)
Kriton Kyrimis
Penny Pincher comics
Message 282 -
1996-10-28 at 15:48:43
Augie De Blieck Jr. wrote:
> THE PENNY PINCHER #1
>
> by Carl Barks
> Release Date: January 13
According to Gladstone's home page, shipping has been rescheduled for February.
GLADSTONE:
Have you started accepting subscriptions for Penny Pincher comics?
Given international mail delays, and the bad things that can happen to mail
(like getting lost/thrown away) sent in December because of the holiday rush,
November might be a good time for us foreign subscribers to start sending
our $$$. January may be cutting it too close.
> THE PENNY PINCHER #1
>
> by Carl Barks
> Release Date: January 13
According to Gladstone's home page, shipping has been rescheduled for February.
GLADSTONE:
Have you started accepting subscriptions for Penny Pincher comics?
Given international mail delays, and the bad things that can happen to mail
(like getting lost/thrown away) sent in December because of the holiday rush,
November might be a good time for us foreign subscribers to start sending
our $$$. January may be cutting it too close.
Arthur De Wolf
Diskspace for rent? ;-)
Message 283 -
1996-10-28 at 19:07:40
Hi!
OTA:
> that will be a biiig databank for comics, animation and tv shows.
Wow! That sounds interesting, but also a lot of work! I can say that I have
scanned some Disney comics from various countries last week. I have a
website on www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney which is also some kind of 'database'
with information on foreign Disney comics. I have now about 60 to 70
scanned covers on that website, ranging from very small to quite large
pictures. The problem with me is that I don't have enough space to put
my website on! I have only 2 megabytes and those are almost full! If I
had more, I could also scan all my comics, or at least one of each title
of each country! The scanned covers are mainly in the Europe-section and
there are some in Asia also.
I'm also planning to make a section on my website, dedicated
to odd or special covers, like a Dutch Barks-cover that has never been
printed anywhere else before, or Dutch covers with Ducks that are
smoking, stuff like that! I already scanned Don's beautiful cover of
the Ten Avatars and put that in the Norwegian section, for those who are
interested! People have been talking about that Spanish Ole Disney magazine.
I got one from Fredrik and everyone can look at it in the Spain-section.
They might not be of the best quality, but thats because I am limited to
disk-space, but I have better pictures here, if you'd want them!
I recently renewed the entire interface of my website and I am
curious to know if people like it or not. Please write me in private email
about any difficulties, problems or suggestions you have concerning my
new website.
BYRON ERICKSON:
> But only if he engaged in pointless fan debates.
I'm sorry, I was just joking!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
OTA:
> that will be a biiig databank for comics, animation and tv shows.
Wow! That sounds interesting, but also a lot of work! I can say that I have
scanned some Disney comics from various countries last week. I have a
website on www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney which is also some kind of 'database'
with information on foreign Disney comics. I have now about 60 to 70
scanned covers on that website, ranging from very small to quite large
pictures. The problem with me is that I don't have enough space to put
my website on! I have only 2 megabytes and those are almost full! If I
had more, I could also scan all my comics, or at least one of each title
of each country! The scanned covers are mainly in the Europe-section and
there are some in Asia also.
I'm also planning to make a section on my website, dedicated
to odd or special covers, like a Dutch Barks-cover that has never been
printed anywhere else before, or Dutch covers with Ducks that are
smoking, stuff like that! I already scanned Don's beautiful cover of
the Ten Avatars and put that in the Norwegian section, for those who are
interested! People have been talking about that Spanish Ole Disney magazine.
I got one from Fredrik and everyone can look at it in the Spain-section.
They might not be of the best quality, but thats because I am limited to
disk-space, but I have better pictures here, if you'd want them!
I recently renewed the entire interface of my website and I am
curious to know if people like it or not. Please write me in private email
about any difficulties, problems or suggestions you have concerning my
new website.
BYRON ERICKSON:
> But only if he engaged in pointless fan debates.
I'm sorry, I was just joking!
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
OTA
Disney comics Digest V96 #236 - OTA'S LONG-LOST STORY/THE OTA FOUNDATION
Message 284 -
1996-10-28 at 20:47:55
OTA'S LONG-LOST STORY AND OTA FOUNDATION
to: markoff and Shaun
re: OTA'S LONG-LOST STORY
Thank you folks for telling me that the title of the story I was
looking for is "Gyro Gearloose and Gus Goose in the Dream Planet".
Now I remember the ducks weren't in that story... so that's why I
didn't find it on the ducks titles!!! Looking on the wrong path!!!
Please if someone tells me a clue for the 70's Western Reprints,
maybe it would be easier for me to find it... I haven't all the
Gladstone comics but have a reasonable pack of Gold Key comics!
to: all
subject: THE OTA FOUNDATION
I'm starting to construct The Ota Foundation, a virtual entity
supported by myself and some friendly service providers that
will be a biiig databank for comics, animation and tv shows.
Mostly composed of links to interesting pages with such data,
(and I would be glad to receive links suggestions from anyone),
the Ota Foundation will also have a big collection of downloadable
comics cover miniatures and images. I'm scanning all my
50.000 comics collection and it will take a lot of time. But the
results will be similar to the stuff that can be found on those
pages:
http://www.kanopus.com.br/~mad/galcapa.htm
http://www.kanopus.com.br/~mad/galcus50.htm
Those are some of the cover links in the
Brazilian Mad Magazine Home-Page mantained by me (I'm
the Editor of Brazilian Mad). The MAD Cover Gallery will feature
ALL the U.S. Editions and Brazilian 1st and 2nd series. Some new
pages with almost 50 miniatures on it were created but not uploaded
yet.
The plans are to extend the cover craze to all comics available,
including the Disney Comics. I plan to put at least one cover
for each title published. Of course that's a big task and I can't
do it alone. The standard will be a regular html with 15 cover
miniatures in it, and the most significant ones will also be
linked and available in larger formats, sometimes with additional
text with info.
Barks material is on the priority list, so I'm starting to scan
covers and more covers. Please tell me if and where such scans are
available elsewhere on the Net, so I'l save precious time.
Please DON'T send me by e-mail any scans or images... I have a
problem with large mails. In case you have something already scanned,
just tell me by e- mail what is it and the file size... we'll think
about a less painful way to trade such files, like FTP.
Mail only comments to (Email removed) - please avoid large attachments!
I haven't much money to spend on that project, but I have lots of
disk space available on several accounts... due to some arrangments
I've been doing with some brazilian service providers in exchange
for animated gifs I'm creating presently.
The Ota Foundation if for all comics lovers! Feel free to join
our member ranks! By now, all mails should be sent to my personal
account (Email removed) and later i'll find an exclusive niche for
them. I'm still at the very start of all this!!!
Ota
P.S. Legal info about the above stuff would be also welcome...
Does anyone think I would have problems putting such material
on the Net?
to: markoff and Shaun
re: OTA'S LONG-LOST STORY
Thank you folks for telling me that the title of the story I was
looking for is "Gyro Gearloose and Gus Goose in the Dream Planet".
Now I remember the ducks weren't in that story... so that's why I
didn't find it on the ducks titles!!! Looking on the wrong path!!!
Please if someone tells me a clue for the 70's Western Reprints,
maybe it would be easier for me to find it... I haven't all the
Gladstone comics but have a reasonable pack of Gold Key comics!
to: all
subject: THE OTA FOUNDATION
I'm starting to construct The Ota Foundation, a virtual entity
supported by myself and some friendly service providers that
will be a biiig databank for comics, animation and tv shows.
Mostly composed of links to interesting pages with such data,
(and I would be glad to receive links suggestions from anyone),
the Ota Foundation will also have a big collection of downloadable
comics cover miniatures and images. I'm scanning all my
50.000 comics collection and it will take a lot of time. But the
results will be similar to the stuff that can be found on those
pages:
http://www.kanopus.com.br/~mad/galcapa.htm
http://www.kanopus.com.br/~mad/galcus50.htm
Those are some of the cover links in the
Brazilian Mad Magazine Home-Page mantained by me (I'm
the Editor of Brazilian Mad). The MAD Cover Gallery will feature
ALL the U.S. Editions and Brazilian 1st and 2nd series. Some new
pages with almost 50 miniatures on it were created but not uploaded
yet.
The plans are to extend the cover craze to all comics available,
including the Disney Comics. I plan to put at least one cover
for each title published. Of course that's a big task and I can't
do it alone. The standard will be a regular html with 15 cover
miniatures in it, and the most significant ones will also be
linked and available in larger formats, sometimes with additional
text with info.
Barks material is on the priority list, so I'm starting to scan
covers and more covers. Please tell me if and where such scans are
available elsewhere on the Net, so I'l save precious time.
Please DON'T send me by e-mail any scans or images... I have a
problem with large mails. In case you have something already scanned,
just tell me by e- mail what is it and the file size... we'll think
about a less painful way to trade such files, like FTP.
Mail only comments to (Email removed) - please avoid large attachments!
I haven't much money to spend on that project, but I have lots of
disk space available on several accounts... due to some arrangments
I've been doing with some brazilian service providers in exchange
for animated gifs I'm creating presently.
The Ota Foundation if for all comics lovers! Feel free to join
our member ranks! By now, all mails should be sent to my personal
account (Email removed) and later i'll find an exclusive niche for
them. I'm still at the very start of all this!!!
Ota
P.S. Legal info about the above stuff would be also welcome...
Does anyone think I would have problems putting such material
on the Net?
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #235
Message 285 -
1996-10-28 at 23:50:52
Here's something that could get interesting, at least from where I sit.
Jonathan Markoff wrote:
>DAVID,GARY:
>I knew the code for "The Moving Money Bin" was wrong because I tried
>entering it in the database and it led to a different story instead. (Or is
>the db wrong?)
The database Jonathan consulted might have a different code number for that
story that is still correct, simply not the one Gladstone has on record.
Such things happen on occasion. Such things will continue to happen on
occasion.
Gladstone has several internal databases of its own to maintain, so we're
pretty familiar with the challenges they present, and the headaches
contradictory data can inflict. One advantage we do have is that the data
in our databases only has to be internally consistent; it only has to tell
the not-quite-half-dozen of us here in Gladstone production what we need to
know, when we need to know, to keep us on our production schedule. So long
as a piece of information such as a code number gets us what we want out of
our databases (or any of our other records), it's largely immaterial to us
what that number does or does not conjure up anywhere else. Even if we wind
up going to Egmont with a code number that doesn't happen to bring up the
desired material in an Egmont database, we just force Byron to dig deeper,
he then chides us for putting him to the trouble, and we all move on.
Since their inception, code numbers have been strictly meant as a
publishers reference tool, for filing, accounting, and legal purposes, in
conjunction with other tracking referents such as the actual titles of
stories. That is why they are printed, that is why they should be accurate
as printed, but that is why publishers, who know that errors do occur, have
plenty of other ways to do the referencing if a printed code number comes a
cropper. Readers were never meant to assign them any importance whatsoever.
The bottom line is that no database can establish an error of this kind on
the part of Gladstone any more than Gladstone can establish an error of
this kind on the part of any database. Gladstone does not directly
participate in or review any Disney comics related databases currently
under development and/or available to the public, via this mailing list or
any other avenue, web sites included. Therefore, no such database can or
will reflect with any certainty the accuracy of any information that is
available to Gladstone at the time of the production of any Gladstone
Disney comics.
Gary
------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
------------------------------------------------
Jonathan Markoff wrote:
>DAVID,GARY:
>I knew the code for "The Moving Money Bin" was wrong because I tried
>entering it in the database and it led to a different story instead. (Or is
>the db wrong?)
The database Jonathan consulted might have a different code number for that
story that is still correct, simply not the one Gladstone has on record.
Such things happen on occasion. Such things will continue to happen on
occasion.
Gladstone has several internal databases of its own to maintain, so we're
pretty familiar with the challenges they present, and the headaches
contradictory data can inflict. One advantage we do have is that the data
in our databases only has to be internally consistent; it only has to tell
the not-quite-half-dozen of us here in Gladstone production what we need to
know, when we need to know, to keep us on our production schedule. So long
as a piece of information such as a code number gets us what we want out of
our databases (or any of our other records), it's largely immaterial to us
what that number does or does not conjure up anywhere else. Even if we wind
up going to Egmont with a code number that doesn't happen to bring up the
desired material in an Egmont database, we just force Byron to dig deeper,
he then chides us for putting him to the trouble, and we all move on.
Since their inception, code numbers have been strictly meant as a
publishers reference tool, for filing, accounting, and legal purposes, in
conjunction with other tracking referents such as the actual titles of
stories. That is why they are printed, that is why they should be accurate
as printed, but that is why publishers, who know that errors do occur, have
plenty of other ways to do the referencing if a printed code number comes a
cropper. Readers were never meant to assign them any importance whatsoever.
The bottom line is that no database can establish an error of this kind on
the part of Gladstone any more than Gladstone can establish an error of
this kind on the part of any database. Gladstone does not directly
participate in or review any Disney comics related databases currently
under development and/or available to the public, via this mailing list or
any other avenue, web sites included. Therefore, no such database can or
will reflect with any certainty the accuracy of any information that is
available to Gladstone at the time of the production of any Gladstone
Disney comics.
Gary
------------------------------------------------
Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
------------------------------------------------