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Christer Hanssen
DANIEL:
>I also thought that the CBL was a complete collection when I bought it
>about 6 years ago, but very soon it became clear that it certainly isn't.
>
>Let's say that the CBL prints about 99 percent of Barks' original art,
>just to give an idea.

So, there isn't anything in the US Adventure albums of Barks work that's not
in the CBL?
Shaun M. Knowler
I've also noticed that Disney rarely used ACME brand products, but I
noticed they used items from the AJAX company in the cartoon shorts.
Mickey, Donald, and Goofy set up their "Ghostbusting" company under the
AJAX name in "The Lonesome Ghosts", if I remember accuratly.

-$haun
Marco Barlotti
DON - HARALD:
> I know that Disney was
>unhappy with the "Marvel/Image" style of the first Italian edition and that
>they had the second issue done in a slightly more "Disney" style, and it
>sounds like they wouldn't allow that #1 to be used anywhere else.

I have issues number 0/1, 0/2 and 0/3 of PK, the original Italian edition of
that SuperDuck stuff. I can't spot the difference in style, so I'd like some
of our Italian friends to comment about it.
As a general personal comment on the series: IMHO, altohough it is NOT
otrageously horrible, you should not rush and buy it either. By the way, I
have seen announcements of issue #1 (at last!) so it looks like they are
planning to publish it on a regular (monthly? bi-monthly?) basis.

DAVID asked:
> Do you mean Br'er Fox was made female in old translations of the
>original BOOKS about Br'er Rabbit, or in translations of Disney COMICS
>about Br'er Rabbit?
>
I can't tell about books. I am SURE about "Uncle Remus" Disney Comics back
in the 50's and (?) 60's (are there any more recent ones?)

That's it, as far as it concerns ANSWERS. Bye,
Marco

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End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #233
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Marco Barlotti
It might be worthwile to report about a special Disney issue of the Italian
comics magazine "Comica art".
The magazine is not usually sold at every newsstand, but they are doing it
for this special Disney issue. 94 pages, excellent paper, all 4-colours, a
reasonable price (about 4 Euro), and among other stuff: a good (not
excellent) reprint of Gottfredson's Mickey-against-Wolf story (ST from 8th
January to 18th June 1933); a complete reprint of Bill Wright's "Mickey
Mouse and the Rajah's Treasure" from issue 231 of FC (June 1949)(I guess
you'll never any more see it in the U, S and A, since it's full of guns,
bondage and violence); and even better a 4-page essay by Luca Boschi about
Disney Super-Heroes from Super Snooper to PK via the complete story of Super
Goof and others like Morcego Vermelho and Borboleta Purpurea (please DO NOT,
I repeat DO NOT ask me to translate this since it is TOO LONG and too full
of interesting facts).
Be warned that it's all in Italian!
Should anyone want a copy, I might trade one for any reprint (in English!)
of the Bombastium story OR any long story by Don Rosa. Those interested
should contact me privately, of course.

Marco

(by the way: 1 Euro = 1.25 US$ - more or less.)
Augie De Blieck Jr.
DWIGHT:

Thanks for the clarifications about the 555 phone numbers. Now for the
latest problem: Front page story in the local paper here today announces
that as of May 1997, my state (New Jersey) is getting two additional area
codes, and I'm in the location where one of the new ones will be. After 21
years of life in the 201 area code, that will be changing. It feels weird.

ALL:

Just to stay on-topic: For the second or third month in a row, TWO of the
Uncle $crooge albums came out on the same week. Ouch, my budget... Isn't
there anyway we can go back to one every other week or so?

Donald Duck #300 and Uncle $crooge Adventures #42 also came out this week.
And I realize that I haven't read a single one of the Duck books I've
bought in the last two months. My, school is busy this year. I am looking
forward to reading the Andold Wild Duck story in DD soon, though.

-Augie
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OTA
Hi all

Can someone tell me in which Barks story the Ducks and Gyro Gearloose go
to another planet (or an asteroid) that is completely underdevelopped...
and after Gyro creates one of his inventions, every inhabitant of that
planet becomes an inventor? The result is, some hours after, the planet
advances 1000 years...
I read that story as a child and i'm trying to find it. Eventually I
have that story somewhere in my collection, but I am curious to find it.
I have many of the american Disney comics (Gold key) and some Gladstone
paperbacks and also a lot of brazilian translations but I need a clue...
at least the title of that story!!
Please, if someone knows, tell me!!!

Otacilio d'Assuncao (Ota) -- Brazil
Byron Erickson
Not from me, though! No sir--I've learned *my* lesson.

Instead I'll respond to a couple of people who've mentioned they'd like
to see Brigitta MacBridge in Don Rosa's Scrooge birthday (er...
anniversary) story. I don't think Don will mind if I reveal that she
does *not* appear in his story.

Brigitta will, however, appear in a story to be published in connection
with Scrooge's birthday next year. One written by me and drawn by
Giorgio Cavazzano. (And boy, am I thrilled that he agreed to draw it! We
had a fun time discussing the plot in Paris last Tuesday.)

This story is a co-production between EPS and Disney Italy, so it will
appear in our pocket books next summer and in Topolino I'm-not-sure when
(the Italians talked about actually publishing it on Scrooge's birthday
in December--however strange that might sound!).

I plotted the story last August (long before Don started work on his),
so if there are any similarities, he copied me!

No, really, these are two very different stories. Don has come up with a
corker of an epic adventure that's fraught with significance and is
thrilling and funny and jam-packed with surprises (litterally, as he had
to fit it into 28 pages). The story I'm doing with Cavazzano, on the
other hand, is a quiet little tale, and we get 50 pages to play with
(I'll bet Don is really jealous about that!).

I should have my head examined for agreeing to write it (like I don't
have anything else to do), but the chance of working with Cavazzano is
too good to pass up. Now if I can only get Don to read it and make
comments when the script is finished...
Deckerd
Donald Duck #300 has appeared. It includes the
story "Disco Ducks," which has been discussed on
this list a time or two. I don't want to sound
like I'm whining or anything, but I regret to
report that there is a minor omission in the
credits...

--Dwight Decker
Arthur De Wolf
Hi!

BYRON "I wanna keep all the long stories to myself" ERICKSON:
> The story I'm doing with Cavazzano, on the other hand, is a quiet
> little tale, and we get 50 pages to play with.
I don't get it! Why do you always tell Don to keep his stories under 28 or 24
pages, while his long stories are always packed with thrilling adventures and
dozens of great jokes, while on the other hand you make a story of 50 pages,
which is a quiet little tale? Why don't you ever give Don 50 pages to play with?
He's one of the best Disney comic artists around at the moment, and you force
him to shorten his stories, while Egmont also makes stories like those Mickey
Mystery stories of almost 100 pages long, that are fun but still not nearly as
good as Rosa's ones!
I know that Rosa's stories appear in the weekly comics and that the long
Mickey stories are printed in the pocketbooks, but can't you spread 56-page
Rosa-stories over several weeklies?
In a while, when Don is retired and he's only making Junior Woodchuck-
scripts, you'll which that you had given him more pages to play with! ;-)

Hereby I start my campaign which I will call "Give Rosa More Pages" and
I ask everyone on this mailing list to join me. We will all go outside on the
streets to ask people for their signatures and when we have enough signatures
we offer them to Egmont to show them how many people agree with the fact that
Don deserves more pages! ;-)

I have two more questions:

1. I was wondering if all of Barks' Junior Woodchucks scripts have been
or will be printed in one of the "in Color" albums! I xeroxed those scripts
from Daniel's CBL once, but it would be much easier to have them all in one
album!
2. I was also wondering about Gladstone's license! Has that been renewed
in the meantime? I've heard about a millionaire who wanted to get the license
of publishing Disney comics in the States! Can anyone tell me more about that?

KRITON KYRIMIS
>> ...I don't know
>> if Greek comics carry advertising
> In case anyone's interested in this sort of thing, "Comics" does have a
> couple of ads per issue.
Yeah, but Komix is the only Greek Disney comic that has advertisements. All the
others (Almanako, Minni, Mickey Mystery, Mickey Mouse, Charoumenes Istories,
Donald, Megalo Klasika and Megalo Mickey) have no ads at ALL! AND they are all
printed on perfect glossy paper! Isn't that amazing?

Bye!

Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Harald Havas
DON
I never heard that claim. And in all the written work I know $rooge
is credited to Barks, the Beagle Boys, Gladstone... but never HDL.
They seem to be Taliaferro's, as are: Donald's car (including the
famous number), Donald's dog Bolivar, Grandma Duck, the first HDL
as boy-scouts-stories etc.
Speaking about Bolivar: in a recent "Micky Maus" he appeared, and
Donald called him by that name. Beside the fact that in German his
name is usual given as "Berni", didn't they ban the name "Bolivar"
decades ago for political reasons and renamed him "Bully"? Since
when is "Bolivar" in use again?

MY LAST POSTING
...was cluttered with typos. What I, of course, wanted to say was,
that it was claimed "Mother GOOSE" was LVD's grandmom.

GARY
>Right now, I'm just glad to hear about new Asterix! Thanks for passing
>along the info on XXX (last one I read was "Asterix and the Secret Weapon,"
>which by your remarks I presume was XXIX?).

Hmmm... the last one was called "The Rose and the Sword" in the
French original ("La rose et le glaive") and "Asterix und Maestria" in German.
So, if "The Secret Weapon" contained the story of a woman "taking over" the
Gaul borrow, and showed (very sexy) female Roman troops - that's the one.

SUPER-DUCK
The German book "Phantomias" was numbered "#1" and contained #2 of
the original Italian series - why ever.
BTW: can some of our Italian members send me a #1 of PK? I'd be very
interested in seeing this - mail me and we can discuss details
(address, $money$...)
Furthermore: another odd thing about this series is, that there is no
mentioning of Egmont or Ehapa on the cover (which usually is _always_
there) but says "Walt Disney Company" instead...?

LAST NOT LEAST
New "card"-infos: This week, Super-Goof and Gus Goose.
Nothing new or interesting on S-G, his first German app. is 1967.
Gus Goose is said to be Pisces ("carp" as they add in paranthesis!)
His parents are named (Wilhelmine Erpel and Gangolf Gans in German)
and his FGA is 1952.

Tha-tha-that's all folks!

Harald
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
Ville Saari
Byron Erickson wrote:

> and we get 50 pages to play with (I'll bet Don is really jealous about
> that!).

Are these 50 pages in three row layout? If so, then according to my page
count rule, it corresponds to 31 pages in four row layout - just 10% more
than Don's 28.

My page count comparison rule goes: one three row page equals to 5/8 four
row pages. It's based on the average number of panels per page. I once
counted panels of about 1000 pages of Disney comics of both formats from
Finnish weekly and pocketbooks and the conclusion was that there was 1.6
times more panels per page on four row pages than on three row pages.

Of course this rule doesn't work for stories which are converted from one
format to another. For those the ratio is simply 3/4, because the original
rows are usually intact. At least when the conversion is from four to
three rows - I don't remember having seen any story converted from three
to four rows, because those seem be usually just published in the original
three row layout also on four row publications. Just magnified to fill the
larger page size.

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Ole R. Nielsen
DANIEL (and everybody else):
My address is now officially @aabc.dk, and the old one has been
abandoned altogether. For a couple of weeks _both_ of them bounced
because of some silly mistake with timeouts, but it seems to work
OK now. I'm still trying to catch up with the digests though...

ANY ITALIAN:
I'm working on the Italian index ported across from MAC and it
seems to be full of typos: Some names are consistently spelled
differently every other line. Nino Russo is ther correct name?
There's also a Claudia/Claudio person... or two?
More questions when I've got a real message prepared.

--Ole <(Email removed)>

P.S. Is the original file of the index still available, I only
got the ascii version, and may be able to do a better port.
Pieter Van Cleef
Daniel wrote:

>>Why does Jippes always work for another country than Holland? This is
something I wonder for a long time. Doesn't Holland have enough work for
him to do, don't they pay enough or is the work they supply not
'challenging' enough? Things began to get very interesting when Jippes
started working on
Barks' Junior Woodchuck scripts, but then after (I think) about ten
stories he stops with it. Why? <<

Offcourse I can 't tell what goes on in Jippes' mind, but the fact is that
Jippes works on different projects every now and then. You can't expect that
one of the most talented men in the business (both comics and animation)
works several years on the same thing (although I hope he'll draw more
comics). And the fact is: making comics isn't very profitable. He worked
during the seventies en early eighties as an art-director for the Dutch
Weekly, so maybe this kind of work isn't very "challenging" anymore.

Every now and then he makes some covers or a Donald Duck-story, but that's
mostly because he likes to do it or has the time to do it. So to speak an
"in-between-jobs"-occupation.

Jippes is now working on featurecartoons for the videomarket (like the
Aladdin-sequels) , because Jippes thinks working for the
"cinema-featurecartoons" isn't very interesting anymore .
Future-animationprojects aren't very promising and there goes a rumour that
Disney probably will not be making a full length-animated movie EVERY year:
"Hunchback of Notre Dame" didn't do very well in the USA... (compared to the
Lion King for instance).

Arthur wrote:
> Jippes told me that he had just finished a story with Donald and he
> told me what it was about, but I forgot!

Dani?l wrote:
>Was it "Officer for a Day", another story which Barks scripted after
retiring?

Maybe it was. The most recent "Barks-scripted" comic bij Jippes to be
published (in the Dutch Weekly no.11-1997) is "Officer for a day".

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Don Rosa
VILLE:
I was aware, of course, that the Egmont digests have more pages to work with
than the comics I do, and I also had done some mental calculations to tell
myself that those 3-tier 6-panel pages would equal a certain amount of
4-teir 8-panel pages so I wouldn't feel badly. Also, those cramped digest
pages don't offer any chance of scenes that are "sweeping in their
magnitude" like a comic-book half-pager or occasional full-pager. Besides
that, I can't work in the digests unless I learn to draw like Georgio
Cavazzano, which you'll agree would take me years and several hand and brain
operations.
But, since you seem to have made a very scientific analysis of these
page-count ratios, how does one of my pages figure into your formulae? I
almost always have 9 or 10 panels per page, and sometimes 11 or 12. I just
can't fit all my overblown plans or grandiose ideas into the customary 7 or
8! That reminds me, Byron, my last idea to you was to be paid by
ounce-of-ink rather than page; now I think a better idea is to be paid by
the panel on the scale of 1/8th the normal page rate per panel. Hm?

ARTHUR:
As Byron can tell you, the number of pages I am given is not up to him, but
up to the various publishing branches who have decided that they want my
stories in the weekly where stories are to be shorter than the monthly, and
where they want no stories that don't fit the pattern of 1-part 10-16
pagers, or two-part 7-pages-per-parters. At that, they already allow me
3-part 8-pages-per-parters and a few 1-part 28-page specials per year. So
I'm already getting extra pages. I wouldn't mind doing 50 pagers sometimes,
but I look on the bright side -- doing longer stories would spread my
paychecks even further apart, maybe 5-6 months! I'd get paid only twice per
year! My money barely last between paychecks now! Why would
you...(sob)...wanna do that to me (sob)...?

What about this "Wanda Waddle"? Was somebody gonna tell me who she is?
Jacob Sparre Andersen
The new Italian "Super Duck" series seems to appear both in Norway and
Germany. - Why not in Denmark?!? (or has I just missed something very
important on the newsstands?)

Does somebody know? (maybe somebody inside Egmont/Serieforlaget?)

Greetings,

Jacob
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