Hi! :-)
I just came to think of that at the time of the release of U$ 285 (Lo$ 1)
I found both a copy with the Gladstone-logo (the regular one), but also
one that had the Marvels-logo where the Gladstone had been (!). I found
this really odd at the time, since I had no idea that Disney had something
whatever to do with Marvels. And now I find it odd because I've only seen
Marvels Disney-comics as being own titles (I've seen Pocahontas-comics by
Marvels as well as Beauty & the Beast). And never after that day I've seen
a "regular" Disney-comic with that Marvels-labell on it.
Is there anyone who can explain this? Why did Marvels have own copies of
U$ 285?
See ya!
---
Greetings from J a k o b
Author
Topic: 199610
(312 messages)
Jakob Söderbaum
U$ 285 also by Marvels??!
Message 16 -
1996-10-02 at 02:39:56
Gerstein
Various things
Message 17 -
1996-10-02 at 03:32:59
Hi, gang! Back from Europe so it's time to reply to some of the last two
weeks' comments and questions -- and ask a few myself!
ROBERT:
"Other supporting characters from Mickey's strip I'd love to see
again include Captain Churchmouse, Captain Doberman, and especially Eega
Beeva. Maybe a story where Mickey goes to visit Eega in his underground
society?"
Funny you should mention Eega. As it happens, I'm just using him
in the story I'm writing right now! Captain Doberman will appear in my
next one, but only briefly; Captain Churchmouse will definitely be a major
character in a story I'm planning for next year, 'slong as Egmont likes the
idea.
There's already a Brazilian story where Mickey travels to Eega's
world. It's weird and suitably Bill-Walshian. Unfortunately, I only ever
saw it in some European comic long before I was keeping track of codes, and
it's not one that I actually own... >sigh<
BENT:
The Egmont story you read is called "Phantom Bob Returns" and was
drawn by Esteban, although I don't know who wrote it. I do have an English
version in the British weekly, which I then had access to.
I would go NUTS to get that Indonesian Gladstone Gander comic with
my Egg Collector story in it. In fact, I'd like to get a subscription to
the Singapore Mickey Mouse (English) weekly, and to that Gladstone Gander
from Indonesia. How to do it?
MARCO:
"Good Grief" was, I think, popularized by Charlie Brown, but did
exist before him. In the 1930s and earlier, it was more typically "Great
Grief" (c. f. a number of earlier Gottfredson stories). The 1936 "Oscar
the Ostrich" does include "Good Grief" in Gladstone's version, but this
actually replaces an Italian "Sapristi!" which Disney asked be removed.
When Donald emerges from the King Sturgeon in "Land of the Pygmy
Indians," I seem to recall him saying, "Well, well, all in a day's work!"
MIKE:
I usually see the Barks Bear Book for about $30-$40.
KRITON:
"Personally, I prefer to keep [comics] at home, so that I may dive
in them like a porpoise, throw them in the air, and let them hit me on the
head."
As well as the Scrooge reference, you remind me of how around the
time I was 14 years old, I had a friend of mine bury me up to the neck in
Gladstones for a gag photo. Hard to believe I once treated comics that
way!
DWIGHT:
Van Horn's Bat story had the eccentric artist Roger Lotsagall
showing exterminator Donald that "I've got bats in my belfry" -- which was
true in both senses of the phrase!
JONATHAN:
I read the Rockerduck story "Poolside Party" in a later Whitman
that reprinted US 93. I borrowed that later Whitman from a friend who's
since lost it... I only found out which issue it had appeared in by
consulting the index at the back of Celestial Arts' "US: His Life and
Times" collection (no relation to the LO$, by the way -- I mean the 1987
edition of collected Barks stories).
The 1987 "Life and Times" index, by the way, doesn't give complete
indexes for the issues it covers. One-pagers and Gyro stories aren't
included.
"Poolside Party" is a battle between Scrooge and Rockerduck with
Rockerduck spending wildly on a huge society party and Scrooge,
tight-fisted as usual, unable to properly fight back. The concept could
have made a better story, and the art wasn't red-hot.
JAN:
There was a Super Big Bad Wolf not once, but twice, after consuming
wayward Super Goobers. "Tah-dah, and GRR," he said after transforming the
first time, and "Tah-dah with teeth in it" the second time. I'll see if I
can find the relevant comics.
RICH:
Professor Wonderful, actually Prof. Julius Sumner Miller, did the
science segments on the old 1950s Mickey Mouse Club. As a kid, I grew to
dislike the segments because when they were shown on the Club during 1980s
reruns, they took up the time that would normally have contained a cartoon
-- usually an early Mickey episode! Talk about sacrilege. Imagine missing
a chance to see Mickey tweak animals' limbs to make music, in favor of
actually LEARNING something. ;-)
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #214
******************************************
weeks' comments and questions -- and ask a few myself!
ROBERT:
"Other supporting characters from Mickey's strip I'd love to see
again include Captain Churchmouse, Captain Doberman, and especially Eega
Beeva. Maybe a story where Mickey goes to visit Eega in his underground
society?"
Funny you should mention Eega. As it happens, I'm just using him
in the story I'm writing right now! Captain Doberman will appear in my
next one, but only briefly; Captain Churchmouse will definitely be a major
character in a story I'm planning for next year, 'slong as Egmont likes the
idea.
There's already a Brazilian story where Mickey travels to Eega's
world. It's weird and suitably Bill-Walshian. Unfortunately, I only ever
saw it in some European comic long before I was keeping track of codes, and
it's not one that I actually own... >sigh<
BENT:
The Egmont story you read is called "Phantom Bob Returns" and was
drawn by Esteban, although I don't know who wrote it. I do have an English
version in the British weekly, which I then had access to.
I would go NUTS to get that Indonesian Gladstone Gander comic with
my Egg Collector story in it. In fact, I'd like to get a subscription to
the Singapore Mickey Mouse (English) weekly, and to that Gladstone Gander
from Indonesia. How to do it?
MARCO:
"Good Grief" was, I think, popularized by Charlie Brown, but did
exist before him. In the 1930s and earlier, it was more typically "Great
Grief" (c. f. a number of earlier Gottfredson stories). The 1936 "Oscar
the Ostrich" does include "Good Grief" in Gladstone's version, but this
actually replaces an Italian "Sapristi!" which Disney asked be removed.
When Donald emerges from the King Sturgeon in "Land of the Pygmy
Indians," I seem to recall him saying, "Well, well, all in a day's work!"
MIKE:
I usually see the Barks Bear Book for about $30-$40.
KRITON:
"Personally, I prefer to keep [comics] at home, so that I may dive
in them like a porpoise, throw them in the air, and let them hit me on the
head."
As well as the Scrooge reference, you remind me of how around the
time I was 14 years old, I had a friend of mine bury me up to the neck in
Gladstones for a gag photo. Hard to believe I once treated comics that
way!
DWIGHT:
Van Horn's Bat story had the eccentric artist Roger Lotsagall
showing exterminator Donald that "I've got bats in my belfry" -- which was
true in both senses of the phrase!
JONATHAN:
I read the Rockerduck story "Poolside Party" in a later Whitman
that reprinted US 93. I borrowed that later Whitman from a friend who's
since lost it... I only found out which issue it had appeared in by
consulting the index at the back of Celestial Arts' "US: His Life and
Times" collection (no relation to the LO$, by the way -- I mean the 1987
edition of collected Barks stories).
The 1987 "Life and Times" index, by the way, doesn't give complete
indexes for the issues it covers. One-pagers and Gyro stories aren't
included.
"Poolside Party" is a battle between Scrooge and Rockerduck with
Rockerduck spending wildly on a huge society party and Scrooge,
tight-fisted as usual, unable to properly fight back. The concept could
have made a better story, and the art wasn't red-hot.
JAN:
There was a Super Big Bad Wolf not once, but twice, after consuming
wayward Super Goobers. "Tah-dah, and GRR," he said after transforming the
first time, and "Tah-dah with teeth in it" the second time. I'll see if I
can find the relevant comics.
RICH:
Professor Wonderful, actually Prof. Julius Sumner Miller, did the
science segments on the old 1950s Mickey Mouse Club. As a kid, I grew to
dislike the segments because when they were shown on the Club during 1980s
reruns, they took up the time that would normally have contained a cartoon
-- usually an early Mickey episode! Talk about sacrilege. Imagine missing
a chance to see Mickey tweak animals' limbs to make music, in favor of
actually LEARNING something. ;-)
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
(Email removed)
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #214
******************************************
Markoff
Digest V96 #213--Pieter, Bats
Message 18 -
1996-10-02 at 03:34:55
PIETER:
>More than 1 year after our publication of the Duck Family Tree
>we still get letters every week (!) from readers who point out that "this
>week's Donald Duck-story contains family-information that does not match the
>family-tree-descriptions."
Of course, if the magazine had *credits*, they would realize it's different
authors, ergo different ideas.
>Making these kinds of maps, family trees or whatever, means that writers and
>drawers loose there freedom somehow. The worst scenario you can think of
>is, that within a couple of months, you have to provide all the
>Disney-artists worldwide a catalog of the furniture in Donald's house, with
>examples of the cuckoo-clock on Donald's wall or the carpet-colors on the
>floor. This may sound fun and interesting, but it means some sort of "global
>equalization" of Duck-comics. Everything may be on it's place, from Daisy's
>dress to Donald's kitchen-table... but will those comics be fun and
>interesting?
>
>I'd rather read the old Barks-comics, where everything is different each new
>story and alterations in furniture, houses and moneybins are simply made to
>suit the story.
>
>Any other editors who share this opinion?
I'm not an editor, just a wannabe author, but I say right on! I like
"continuity" in Duck stories, but it has to stop somewhere!
CHRISTER, DWIGHT:
The bats-in-the-belfry story you're discussing is "It's Bats, Man!" from DD
Adventures (Disney) 6. Story by John Lustig, art by William Van Horn. In it,
Donald is a master pest controller and is hired by a loony modern-art
sculptor to drive the bats away from his house's belfry. The cover of DDAD 6
was based on the belfry scene.
ANYONE:
This is getting off-topic, but could you give me some advice on computer
problems? What happened is, starting a month or so ago, I had so much mail
in my mailbox that it had to "compact mailboxes" whenever I shut it. Last
night, I got a warning that the "contents of the 'in' mailbox may be
damaged." Today, EVERYTHING in the "in" mailbox from April to September
dissappeared! I think it's retrievable, though. Has anyone had this problem
before?
HUGO DIAZ, FRANK STAJANO, ARTHUR DE WOLF:
I realize I've gotten trading deals pending with each of you, but don't
worry! I've printed out, or can just remember, what I need to know.
HUGO:
¨Puedes dar a Arthur informaci¢n (en ingl?s, por favor!) sobre los comics
Disney en Argentina? Su p gina para Argentina a
http://home.pi.net/~wolfman/disney/southern_america/argentina.html
es *muy* incompleto.
--Jonathan Markoff
>More than 1 year after our publication of the Duck Family Tree
>we still get letters every week (!) from readers who point out that "this
>week's Donald Duck-story contains family-information that does not match the
>family-tree-descriptions."
Of course, if the magazine had *credits*, they would realize it's different
authors, ergo different ideas.
>Making these kinds of maps, family trees or whatever, means that writers and
>drawers loose there freedom somehow. The worst scenario you can think of
>is, that within a couple of months, you have to provide all the
>Disney-artists worldwide a catalog of the furniture in Donald's house, with
>examples of the cuckoo-clock on Donald's wall or the carpet-colors on the
>floor. This may sound fun and interesting, but it means some sort of "global
>equalization" of Duck-comics. Everything may be on it's place, from Daisy's
>dress to Donald's kitchen-table... but will those comics be fun and
>interesting?
>
>I'd rather read the old Barks-comics, where everything is different each new
>story and alterations in furniture, houses and moneybins are simply made to
>suit the story.
>
>Any other editors who share this opinion?
I'm not an editor, just a wannabe author, but I say right on! I like
"continuity" in Duck stories, but it has to stop somewhere!
CHRISTER, DWIGHT:
The bats-in-the-belfry story you're discussing is "It's Bats, Man!" from DD
Adventures (Disney) 6. Story by John Lustig, art by William Van Horn. In it,
Donald is a master pest controller and is hired by a loony modern-art
sculptor to drive the bats away from his house's belfry. The cover of DDAD 6
was based on the belfry scene.
ANYONE:
This is getting off-topic, but could you give me some advice on computer
problems? What happened is, starting a month or so ago, I had so much mail
in my mailbox that it had to "compact mailboxes" whenever I shut it. Last
night, I got a warning that the "contents of the 'in' mailbox may be
damaged." Today, EVERYTHING in the "in" mailbox from April to September
dissappeared! I think it's retrievable, though. Has anyone had this problem
before?
HUGO DIAZ, FRANK STAJANO, ARTHUR DE WOLF:
I realize I've gotten trading deals pending with each of you, but don't
worry! I've printed out, or can just remember, what I need to know.
HUGO:
¨Puedes dar a Arthur informaci¢n (en ingl?s, por favor!) sobre los comics
Disney en Argentina? Su p gina para Argentina a
http://home.pi.net/~wolfman/disney/southern_america/argentina.html
es *muy* incompleto.
--Jonathan Markoff
Arthur De Wolf
Several useless comments
Message 19 -
1996-10-02 at 14:54:49
Hi!
Who's "Gremlin Gus"? Is he an actual Disney character? I saw two stories
featuring him in latest Greek "Komix", coded WDC&S#39 and #41. Can someone
tell me more about those stories?
This months Greek "Komix" is great, by the way. It's the 100th issues and
it's celebrating that by printing some very great stuff! This issue starts with
printing Don's Life of Scrooge, for instance, accompanied by a large article.
The same issue also contains Don's family tree, accompanied by an even larger
article. There're also two more articles about Carl Barks. Damn ... I wish I
could read them. Kriton Kyrimis, can you tell me if there are any interesting
facts in those articles? Or are they only about things we already new?
What's with that article about square eggs, for instance? There's a picture
showing a chicken put into a machine to make it square. Where's that from?
HARALD HAVAS:
> "Phantomias" #1 - a new German monthly comic-book by Ehapa/Egmont.
Well, I think the comic looks just beautiful! The colors, the paper, the cover,
the artwork, the layouts ... everything is so perfect! I don't know if I should
like the new Donald-character, but at least it's something different then the
boring Egmont-stories we usually get to read. I think the story was actually
exciting and a thrill to read!
MIKE POHJOLA:
> I think there is at least one published version of the map
> of Duckburg.
Oh ... there must be more! What about the one which was divided in nine parts
and was spread over nine different issues when Disney still published the
American comics in August of 1992? That one was drawn by Joe Pearson and
Larry Mayer.
JONATHAN MARKOFF:
> ¨Puedes dar a Arthur informaci¢n (en ingl?s, por favor!) sobre los comics
> Disney en Argentina? Su p gina para Argentina a
Whoa ... I think I can read Spanish: "Can you help Arthur with information (in
English, please) about the Disney comics in Argentina? His page about Argentina is
on ...". Thanks for asking. That'd be great! I hope you can help me, Hugo!
> es *muy* incompleto.
Yeah ... it is very incomplete, concerning the countries outside of Europe. But ...
I've still been working on my website a lot. After many requests, I finally scanned
about 60 different comics from all over the world recently, and I'm now editing
those pictures to put on my website.
DAVID GERSTEIN:
> In fact, I'd like to get a subscription to the Singapore Mickey Mouse
> (English) weekly, and to that Gladstone Gander from Indonesia. How to do it?
I can give you the address of the publisher, if you want! It's:
Eastern Publishing Ltd.
8 Lorong Bakar Batu #07-12
Singapore 348743
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
Who's "Gremlin Gus"? Is he an actual Disney character? I saw two stories
featuring him in latest Greek "Komix", coded WDC&S#39 and #41. Can someone
tell me more about those stories?
This months Greek "Komix" is great, by the way. It's the 100th issues and
it's celebrating that by printing some very great stuff! This issue starts with
printing Don's Life of Scrooge, for instance, accompanied by a large article.
The same issue also contains Don's family tree, accompanied by an even larger
article. There're also two more articles about Carl Barks. Damn ... I wish I
could read them. Kriton Kyrimis, can you tell me if there are any interesting
facts in those articles? Or are they only about things we already new?
What's with that article about square eggs, for instance? There's a picture
showing a chicken put into a machine to make it square. Where's that from?
HARALD HAVAS:
> "Phantomias" #1 - a new German monthly comic-book by Ehapa/Egmont.
Well, I think the comic looks just beautiful! The colors, the paper, the cover,
the artwork, the layouts ... everything is so perfect! I don't know if I should
like the new Donald-character, but at least it's something different then the
boring Egmont-stories we usually get to read. I think the story was actually
exciting and a thrill to read!
MIKE POHJOLA:
> I think there is at least one published version of the map
> of Duckburg.
Oh ... there must be more! What about the one which was divided in nine parts
and was spread over nine different issues when Disney still published the
American comics in August of 1992? That one was drawn by Joe Pearson and
Larry Mayer.
JONATHAN MARKOFF:
> ¨Puedes dar a Arthur informaci¢n (en ingl?s, por favor!) sobre los comics
> Disney en Argentina? Su p gina para Argentina a
Whoa ... I think I can read Spanish: "Can you help Arthur with information (in
English, please) about the Disney comics in Argentina? His page about Argentina is
on ...". Thanks for asking. That'd be great! I hope you can help me, Hugo!
> es *muy* incompleto.
Yeah ... it is very incomplete, concerning the countries outside of Europe. But ...
I've still been working on my website a lot. After many requests, I finally scanned
about 60 different comics from all over the world recently, and I'm now editing
those pictures to put on my website.
DAVID GERSTEIN:
> In fact, I'd like to get a subscription to the Singapore Mickey Mouse
> (English) weekly, and to that Gladstone Gander from Indonesia. How to do it?
I can give you the address of the publisher, if you want! It's:
Eastern Publishing Ltd.
8 Lorong Bakar Batu #07-12
Singapore 348743
Bye!
Arthur de Wolf -- Roosendaal, the Netherlands
email: (Email removed)
homepage: www.pi.net/~wolfman/disney
BBranvold
Rosa Art Display
Message 20 -
1996-10-02 at 18:04:06
This past weekend I attended a display of Don Rosa art at the San Francisco
Museum of Cartoon Art.
Fri: I met Michael Naiman and his wife Susan at the airport and then we had
Don (Rosa) walk by us in the airport. A local comic dealer, Scott McAdam
picked all of us up at the airport with his pick-up. Michael and his wife
rode in front and I rode in the box of the pick-up with the "world famous"
artist- Don Rosa!
We checked into our hotel and walked over to the museum. We were cordially
met and they showed us the "Rosa Room". Egmont had loaned the museum
chapters 1 and 12 of the "Life and Times", as well as 9 covers. It was
really nice to see full page art of the stories in order. Even Don said he
had never seen it this way.
After about an hour at the museum, the five of us went sight-seeing in San
Francisco. We went to the Wharf area and checked out some book stores.
That evening we went to the edge of China Town and ate. We were met by Eric
Chung (mailing list member) and friend Steve Ng, as well as other friends of
Michael's.
Sat: Don and I got up early and walked 8 blocks to a Kinko copy center.
After breakfast,. we were picked up by Joe Field, an award winning comic
shop owner.
He had a Don Rosa in-store signing from 11-2. From 3-5 Don was signing at
the art museum. Michael, (wife) Susan, Eric, Steve, Scott,Don and I, all
went and had a quick meal before the 6:30-8:30 reception at the museum. At
the 6:30 reception
many "friends" of the museum mingled, observed,asked questions, and bid on
art in a silent auction. Two members of our "group" purchased art. Don's
donation went for more than I could afford-$425, to a fellow we didn't know.
When the museum "kicked" us out at 9:00, we all went out for coffee and
dessert.
It was a great weekend to see Don and meet new and old friends, and to get an
opportunity to see some of Don's art on display. The display runs through
Jan.
Sun: We all flew home. P.S. I took some pictures, if any are interested
when I get them developed.......Barry
Museum of Cartoon Art.
Fri: I met Michael Naiman and his wife Susan at the airport and then we had
Don (Rosa) walk by us in the airport. A local comic dealer, Scott McAdam
picked all of us up at the airport with his pick-up. Michael and his wife
rode in front and I rode in the box of the pick-up with the "world famous"
artist- Don Rosa!
We checked into our hotel and walked over to the museum. We were cordially
met and they showed us the "Rosa Room". Egmont had loaned the museum
chapters 1 and 12 of the "Life and Times", as well as 9 covers. It was
really nice to see full page art of the stories in order. Even Don said he
had never seen it this way.
After about an hour at the museum, the five of us went sight-seeing in San
Francisco. We went to the Wharf area and checked out some book stores.
That evening we went to the edge of China Town and ate. We were met by Eric
Chung (mailing list member) and friend Steve Ng, as well as other friends of
Michael's.
Sat: Don and I got up early and walked 8 blocks to a Kinko copy center.
After breakfast,. we were picked up by Joe Field, an award winning comic
shop owner.
He had a Don Rosa in-store signing from 11-2. From 3-5 Don was signing at
the art museum. Michael, (wife) Susan, Eric, Steve, Scott,Don and I, all
went and had a quick meal before the 6:30-8:30 reception at the museum. At
the 6:30 reception
many "friends" of the museum mingled, observed,asked questions, and bid on
art in a silent auction. Two members of our "group" purchased art. Don's
donation went for more than I could afford-$425, to a fellow we didn't know.
When the museum "kicked" us out at 9:00, we all went out for coffee and
dessert.
It was a great weekend to see Don and meet new and old friends, and to get an
opportunity to see some of Don's art on display. The display runs through
Jan.
Sun: We all flew home. P.S. I took some pictures, if any are interested
when I get them developed.......Barry
Markoff
Digest V96 #214--Don, Jakob, Hugo
Message 21 -
1996-10-02 at 18:49:40
DON (AND OTHERS):
**SPOILER** FOR "THE FIREBUG" IN OS 108
T T-shape building didn't burn down. The crook tried but the Ducks caught
him before he could do damage. BTW, the ending (drawn by someone not CB)
shows that the whole story was a dream, even though that wasn't CB's
original idea. CB did it himself in another story, the money stairs up Mount
Demontooth.
**END OF SPOILER**
JAKOB:
Gladstone's mid-1993 to late-1995 issues were published by Gladstone, but
certain copies were distributed by Gladstone and others by Marvel. The
Marvel stamp appears on ceratin copies of ALL issues from that period.
I've answered your Duck Family Tree question in private e-mail.
HUGO:
Mi mensaje previosa fue impreso danado. Atento otra vez sin acentos y ~'s.
?Puedes dar a Arthur informacion (en ingles, por favor!) sobre los comics
Disney en Argentina? Su pagina para Argentina esta a
http://home.pi.net/~wolfman/disney/southern_america/argentina.html
y es *muy* incompleto.
--Jonathan Markoff
**SPOILER** FOR "THE FIREBUG" IN OS 108
T T-shape building didn't burn down. The crook tried but the Ducks caught
him before he could do damage. BTW, the ending (drawn by someone not CB)
shows that the whole story was a dream, even though that wasn't CB's
original idea. CB did it himself in another story, the money stairs up Mount
Demontooth.
**END OF SPOILER**
JAKOB:
Gladstone's mid-1993 to late-1995 issues were published by Gladstone, but
certain copies were distributed by Gladstone and others by Marvel. The
Marvel stamp appears on ceratin copies of ALL issues from that period.
I've answered your Duck Family Tree question in private e-mail.
HUGO:
Mi mensaje previosa fue impreso danado. Atento otra vez sin acentos y ~'s.
?Puedes dar a Arthur informacion (en ingles, por favor!) sobre los comics
Disney en Argentina? Su pagina para Argentina esta a
http://home.pi.net/~wolfman/disney/southern_america/argentina.html
y es *muy* incompleto.
--Jonathan Markoff
Kriton Kyrimis
T-shaped building
Message 22 -
1996-10-02 at 19:47:12
Someone said, in a digest that for some reason I never received:
> > Thanks for the landmarks. Didn't that T-shaped building burn down?
No, it didn't. This is the building where the ducks managed to catch the
firebug. Whoever wrote the above comment probably confused the T-shaped
building with the square, round, and hollow buildings in the refineries, which
the firebug did burn. (I confess I had made the same mistake before looking
up the story.)
--
Kriton(e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"The chances of success were virtually impossible. With you to assist, the
chances may be reduced to *almost* virtually impossible."
-----
> > Thanks for the landmarks. Didn't that T-shaped building burn down?
No, it didn't. This is the building where the ducks managed to catch the
firebug. Whoever wrote the above comment probably confused the T-shaped
building with the square, round, and hollow buildings in the refineries, which
the firebug did burn. (I confess I had made the same mistake before looking
up the story.)
--
Kriton(e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"The chances of success were virtually impossible. With you to assist, the
chances may be reduced to *almost* virtually impossible."
-----
Per Starback
Harry's Rosa-index
Message 23 -
1996-10-02 at 20:27:23
Jakob wrote:
> I've looked at your Rosa index (or rather database) now. Since I couldn't
> access the FTP-sites this time either, I only looked at the "regular"
> page.
The ftp server is up and running right now, but forget about ftp, as
you have general WWW access. Just direct your web browser to the
Disney comics pages, select "creators", then "Don Rosa", and then
"[index]" (or, alternatively, you could go via the "database" link
instead).
And Michael wrote:
> How many Dutch scripted stories has Don drawn?
> Is there a separate index on this?
That is easily seen on the Don Rosa index mentioned above.
Sometimes I wonder how many (few?) of the subscribers here who
actually use the WWW pages. There are of course *large* areas missing
from them, but still I see questions here now and then that would be
easily answered by a quick check there.
> I've looked at your Rosa index (or rather database) now. Since I couldn't
> access the FTP-sites this time either, I only looked at the "regular"
> page.
The ftp server is up and running right now, but forget about ftp, as
you have general WWW access. Just direct your web browser to the
Disney comics pages, select "creators", then "Don Rosa", and then
"[index]" (or, alternatively, you could go via the "database" link
instead).
And Michael wrote:
> How many Dutch scripted stories has Don drawn?
> Is there a separate index on this?
That is easily seen on the Don Rosa index mentioned above.
Sometimes I wonder how many (few?) of the subscribers here who
actually use the WWW pages. There are of course *large* areas missing
from them, but still I see questions here now and then that would be
easily answered by a quick check there.
Deckerd
Digest V96 #213--Pieter, Bats
Message 24 -
1996-10-02 at 21:13:27
On Oct 1, 8:34pm, markoff wrote:
>DWIGHT:
> The bats-in-the-belfry story you're discussing is "It's Bats, Man!"
from DD
> Adventures (Disney) 6. Story by John Lustig, art by William Van Horn.
In it,
> Donald is a master pest controller and is hired by a loony modern-art
> sculptor to drive the bats away from his house's belfry. The cover of
DDAD 6
> was based on the belfry scene.
>
Hmm...I guess I kinda forgot about the Disney Comics appearance
of that story. Reading it in Danish, I could tell it had to have
been written in English to begin with, with an eye to a visualization
of a common English expression. The equivalent Danish expression
is "rats on the roof" (more or less), so you get this exchange:
LOUIE: Is there something wrong?
SCULPTOR: Isn't it obvious? I have rats on the roof! _Flying_ rats!
So-called bats!
Somebody really worked hard to squeeze the joke in...and the
translator was just lucky that Danish had an expression ("rats on
the roof") so close to "bats in the belfry." That "so-called bats"
bit refers to the Danish word for bat, "flagermus," similar to German
"fledermaus," which makes the rodent connection a bit more obvious
than it is in a straight English translation.
It makes sense that the story would have first appeared in the US.
English-speaking writers for Egmont are told to steer clear of
English-derived wordplay.
Incidentally, this and another van Horn story appeared in a special
supplement to Anders And, the Danish Donald Duck weekly comic
(no. 33 - 15 August 1996), and van Horn also did the lead story in
the main comic. There's a blurb on the contents page: "Do You Know
William van Horn?" It basically says that now that you (the reader)
have been told he drew these stories, "you will always be able to
know him when you see (his work) again." Granted that he has a
distinctive style, it's one way of providing indirect credits.
--Dwight Decker
>DWIGHT:
> The bats-in-the-belfry story you're discussing is "It's Bats, Man!"
from DD
> Adventures (Disney) 6. Story by John Lustig, art by William Van Horn.
In it,
> Donald is a master pest controller and is hired by a loony modern-art
> sculptor to drive the bats away from his house's belfry. The cover of
DDAD 6
> was based on the belfry scene.
>
Hmm...I guess I kinda forgot about the Disney Comics appearance
of that story. Reading it in Danish, I could tell it had to have
been written in English to begin with, with an eye to a visualization
of a common English expression. The equivalent Danish expression
is "rats on the roof" (more or less), so you get this exchange:
LOUIE: Is there something wrong?
SCULPTOR: Isn't it obvious? I have rats on the roof! _Flying_ rats!
So-called bats!
Somebody really worked hard to squeeze the joke in...and the
translator was just lucky that Danish had an expression ("rats on
the roof") so close to "bats in the belfry." That "so-called bats"
bit refers to the Danish word for bat, "flagermus," similar to German
"fledermaus," which makes the rodent connection a bit more obvious
than it is in a straight English translation.
It makes sense that the story would have first appeared in the US.
English-speaking writers for Egmont are told to steer clear of
English-derived wordplay.
Incidentally, this and another van Horn story appeared in a special
supplement to Anders And, the Danish Donald Duck weekly comic
(no. 33 - 15 August 1996), and van Horn also did the lead story in
the main comic. There's a blurb on the contents page: "Do You Know
William van Horn?" It basically says that now that you (the reader)
have been told he drew these stories, "you will always be able to
know him when you see (his work) again." Granted that he has a
distinctive style, it's one way of providing indirect credits.
--Dwight Decker
Gary Leach
Disney comics Digest V96 #214
Message 25 -
1996-10-02 at 21:57:19
The many missives from Jakob brought up a couple of things:
> > I wish I could tell you about The Duck Man video tape, but I haven't seen
> > it. However, I do know more about the tape cover than anyone else on the
> > planet!
>
>Because you made it?
More accurately, I tore it apart, rebuilt it, and added numerous
enhancements. It's the sort of thing an art director does, which is why
we're so universally despised by artists and designers.
>I just came to think of that at the time of the release of U$ 285 (Lo$ 1)
>I found both a copy with the Gladstone-logo (the regular one), but also
>one that had the Marvels-logo where the Gladstone had been (!). I found
>this really odd at the time, since I had no idea that Disney had something
>whatever to do with Marvels. And now I find it odd because I've only seen
>Marvels Disney-comics as being own titles (I've seen Pocahontas-comics by
>Marvels as well as Beauty & the Beast). And never after that day I've seen
>a "regular" Disney-comic with that Marvels-labell on it.
>
>Is there anyone who can explain this? Why did Marvels have own copies of
>U$ 285?
This is one I love to tell again and again (no kidding!). When Gladstone
reacquired the US Disney comics license for the "regular" characters, we
cut a deal with Marvel for newsstand distribution. In this, Marvel bought
the lion's share of the print runs of Gladstone comics and passed them
through their distribution channels to reach the returnable newsstand
market. This provided Gladstone with a buffer against the often ruinous
return rate for comics in that market, though we were required to change
the Gladstone logo on the covers to the box that stated "Disney Comics
distributed by Marvel." We in fact ran two versions of the covers, one with
the Marvel box, and one with the Gladstone logo, those copies going to the
distributors handling the nonreturnable direct market. Aside from that one
change on the covers (the UPC code boxes changed between direct market and
newsstand editions as well, but they always do), all copies were otherwise
identical.
This arrangement was for a specified period, and after that Marvel was not
interested in renewing it. (As I said, returnables can be ruinous!) We've
since had to take the returnable hit ourselves, which is a major reason for
many of the economies we've had to make, including the much reviled
newsprint (a decision neither we nor Disney likes, but even Disney agrees
that, to keep most of the comics on the US newsstand, we really have no
choice). Walt Disney's Comics and Stories was converted into a
direct-market-only book partly to get away from the returnables, but that
move drastically lowered the print run, which significantly increased the
per-copy print costs even before factoring in the increased page count,
enhanced production values, higher quality paper, and those snazzy
squarebound covers.
Anyway, when Marvel dropped the newsstand distribution of Gladstone's
"regular" comics, we dropped the Marvel box on the covers of the newsstand
editions. Meanwhile, Marvel had secured its own comics license from Disney,
for the so-called "modern" characters like Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast,
Pocahontas, Gargoyles, Rescue Rangers, Roger Rabbit, and the like. (At this
point I don't know into what category that new series with teenaged Huey,
Dewey and Louie falls, but my own impression is it's not worth worrying
about.) From what I've been able to tell, Marvel hasn't enjoyed that
arrangement very much, either.
Gary
----------------------------------------------------------
Check out Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
To send e-mail to your favorite Gladstone title(s):
Donald Duck: (Email removed)
Uncle Scrooge: (Email removed)
Donald Duck Adventures: (Email removed)
Uncle Scrooge Adventures: (Email removed)
Walt Disney's Comics and Stories: (Email removed)
Uncle Scrooge Adventures albums: (Email removed)
----------------------------------------------------------
> > I wish I could tell you about The Duck Man video tape, but I haven't seen
> > it. However, I do know more about the tape cover than anyone else on the
> > planet!
>
>Because you made it?
More accurately, I tore it apart, rebuilt it, and added numerous
enhancements. It's the sort of thing an art director does, which is why
we're so universally despised by artists and designers.
>I just came to think of that at the time of the release of U$ 285 (Lo$ 1)
>I found both a copy with the Gladstone-logo (the regular one), but also
>one that had the Marvels-logo where the Gladstone had been (!). I found
>this really odd at the time, since I had no idea that Disney had something
>whatever to do with Marvels. And now I find it odd because I've only seen
>Marvels Disney-comics as being own titles (I've seen Pocahontas-comics by
>Marvels as well as Beauty & the Beast). And never after that day I've seen
>a "regular" Disney-comic with that Marvels-labell on it.
>
>Is there anyone who can explain this? Why did Marvels have own copies of
>U$ 285?
This is one I love to tell again and again (no kidding!). When Gladstone
reacquired the US Disney comics license for the "regular" characters, we
cut a deal with Marvel for newsstand distribution. In this, Marvel bought
the lion's share of the print runs of Gladstone comics and passed them
through their distribution channels to reach the returnable newsstand
market. This provided Gladstone with a buffer against the often ruinous
return rate for comics in that market, though we were required to change
the Gladstone logo on the covers to the box that stated "Disney Comics
distributed by Marvel." We in fact ran two versions of the covers, one with
the Marvel box, and one with the Gladstone logo, those copies going to the
distributors handling the nonreturnable direct market. Aside from that one
change on the covers (the UPC code boxes changed between direct market and
newsstand editions as well, but they always do), all copies were otherwise
identical.
This arrangement was for a specified period, and after that Marvel was not
interested in renewing it. (As I said, returnables can be ruinous!) We've
since had to take the returnable hit ourselves, which is a major reason for
many of the economies we've had to make, including the much reviled
newsprint (a decision neither we nor Disney likes, but even Disney agrees
that, to keep most of the comics on the US newsstand, we really have no
choice). Walt Disney's Comics and Stories was converted into a
direct-market-only book partly to get away from the returnables, but that
move drastically lowered the print run, which significantly increased the
per-copy print costs even before factoring in the increased page count,
enhanced production values, higher quality paper, and those snazzy
squarebound covers.
Anyway, when Marvel dropped the newsstand distribution of Gladstone's
"regular" comics, we dropped the Marvel box on the covers of the newsstand
editions. Meanwhile, Marvel had secured its own comics license from Disney,
for the so-called "modern" characters like Aladdin, Beauty and the Beast,
Pocahontas, Gargoyles, Rescue Rangers, Roger Rabbit, and the like. (At this
point I don't know into what category that new series with teenaged Huey,
Dewey and Louie falls, but my own impression is it's not worth worrying
about.) From what I've been able to tell, Marvel hasn't enjoyed that
arrangement very much, either.
Gary
----------------------------------------------------------
Check out Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
To send e-mail to your favorite Gladstone title(s):
Donald Duck: (Email removed)
Uncle Scrooge: (Email removed)
Donald Duck Adventures: (Email removed)
Uncle Scrooge Adventures: (Email removed)
Walt Disney's Comics and Stories: (Email removed)
Uncle Scrooge Adventures albums: (Email removed)
----------------------------------------------------------
Wilmer Rivers
Crisis on Infinite Duckburgs
Message 26 -
1996-10-02 at 22:41:36
Byron Erickson gives us a list of lots of characters, starting with
Ludwig von Drake, who will henceforth no longer exist in the Disney
universe (at least insofar as Egmont is concerned, I suppose; other
publishers are not obligated to recognize these characters' demise?).
Is this for real? No more Morty and Ferdie, et al.? What about
Daisy's nieces, Goofy's nephew, Grandma Duck's mice from Cinderella,
and all the other members of the extended "families"? Where will
it end? Will Pete go back to being "Bad", or even "Black", and will
his leg fall back off?
This is scary. Will the "unnecessary" characters be banished to a
pocket universe, so that they can be brought back from time to time in
order to renew their copyright, or what?
And what will happen to the fourth nephew?
Wilmer Rivers
Ludwig von Drake, who will henceforth no longer exist in the Disney
universe (at least insofar as Egmont is concerned, I suppose; other
publishers are not obligated to recognize these characters' demise?).
Is this for real? No more Morty and Ferdie, et al.? What about
Daisy's nieces, Goofy's nephew, Grandma Duck's mice from Cinderella,
and all the other members of the extended "families"? Where will
it end? Will Pete go back to being "Bad", or even "Black", and will
his leg fall back off?
This is scary. Will the "unnecessary" characters be banished to a
pocket universe, so that they can be brought back from time to time in
order to renew their copyright, or what?
And what will happen to the fourth nephew?
Wilmer Rivers
Harry Fluks
Our ("Harry's") Rosa-index
Message 27 -
1996-10-02 at 23:04:55
Jakob:
> I've looked at your Rosa index (or rather database) now. Since I couldn't
> access the FTP-sites this time either, I only looked at the "regular"
> page.
If I understand correctly from Per, the ftp file has the same contents as (one of) the
web page(s). The only difference is that the ftp file is plain ASCII.
I hadn't included all special Rosa work yet (covers for foreign magazines,
special drawings, etc.) because I didn't know about them. The things you
sent me will be included in the next version. If I'm missing anything else,
please let me know. I want to keep our Rosa index as complete as possible.
Per said:
> The ftp server is up and running right now, but forget about ftp, as
> you have general WWW access.
In this case, yes. But there are a lot of ftp files that have no corresponding
web page. And there is a *third* way of getting indexes: ask me by private e-mail.
If anyone has a specific question, like Michael:
> How many Dutch scripted stories has Don drawn?
I can send an index in private mail answering the question. So don't hesitate
to ask! (I have plans to make a web page with a form you can fill in, so you
can define the layout of the index you want. But this form is
"still under construction", as Arthur would call it.)
Per also wrote:
> Sometimes I wonder how many (few?) of the subscribers here who
> actually use the WWW pages.
I'm curious, too. I myself, for instance, am *not* a regular web surfer. I look at
Per's pages (and a few others) maybe once in two months.
--Harry.
(Email removed)
> I've looked at your Rosa index (or rather database) now. Since I couldn't
> access the FTP-sites this time either, I only looked at the "regular"
> page.
If I understand correctly from Per, the ftp file has the same contents as (one of) the
web page(s). The only difference is that the ftp file is plain ASCII.
I hadn't included all special Rosa work yet (covers for foreign magazines,
special drawings, etc.) because I didn't know about them. The things you
sent me will be included in the next version. If I'm missing anything else,
please let me know. I want to keep our Rosa index as complete as possible.
Per said:
> The ftp server is up and running right now, but forget about ftp, as
> you have general WWW access.
In this case, yes. But there are a lot of ftp files that have no corresponding
web page. And there is a *third* way of getting indexes: ask me by private e-mail.
If anyone has a specific question, like Michael:
> How many Dutch scripted stories has Don drawn?
I can send an index in private mail answering the question. So don't hesitate
to ask! (I have plans to make a web page with a form you can fill in, so you
can define the layout of the index you want. But this form is
"still under construction", as Arthur would call it.)
Per also wrote:
> Sometimes I wonder how many (few?) of the subscribers here who
> actually use the WWW pages.
I'm curious, too. I myself, for instance, am *not* a regular web surfer. I look at
Per's pages (and a few others) maybe once in two months.
--Harry.
(Email removed)
Byron Erickson
Ludwig Von Drake
Message 28 -
1996-10-02 at 23:08:55
I'm back from vacation and actually have gotten caught up on reading all
the Disney Digests that came in while I was gone. Gad, it seems these
things breed as soon as you turn your back on 'em!
There's probably a lot of silly comments I could make on what's been
written in my absence, but I thought it best to take some time to
address a rather serious subject that's been raised here, namely Ludwig
Von Drake.
I've already talked to Don Rosa about this, so he won't be using Ludwig
in his work in progress, but to avoid such questions in the future, I
figure the rest of you should know why.
You see, something terrible happened to poor old Ludwig.
You know him--always poking his inquisitive beak in all kinds of arcane
research projects. Well, one day he poked a little too far. Yes, he
defied arcanely written dire warnings, ancient curses, and Chinese
fortune cookies and went ahead with a long-planned project to see if he
could discover a reason for Cousin Fethry's existence.
Unfortunately, his conclusion was that there *is* no reason for Fethry
to exist. Upon hearing this, Fethry promptly proceeded to violently
implode. Now this event in and of itself would not have been cause for
any great alarm, but Ludwig was standing a little too close when he
delivered the news (if I recall, he was shining a flashlight through
Fethry's ears), and the physical aftershock of Fethry's implosion
thoroughly smashed, shattered, spindled, folded, and mutilated Ludwig.
The end result was a tiny blob of orange marmalade -- the sole remains
of a once great scientist and TV host.
The *psychic* aftershock of Fethry's implosion also led to many more
fatalities. Among them:
1) Morty and Ferdie
2) Moby Duck
3) The Beagle Brats
4) All the new characters created for DuckTales (with the sole exception
of Launchpad McQuack, who was thankfully stranded in 1,000,000 BC as a
result of his crashing one of Gyro's time machines).
5) The Phantom Blot imposter who has been running around for the last 30
years robbing banks, pinching Grandma Duck's purse, and otherwise
thoroughly besmriching the notorious name of his Great and Awesome
Blackness, the original Blot.
6) Any Beagle Boy who looks the slightest bit different from all the
rest of the gang.
7) Chip 'n' Dale as Rescue Rangers.
8) Emil Eagle
9) Scrooge's butler
10) Every super goober in existence.
11) Hordes of David Gerstein's favorite bit players.
Actually, this isn't even the final list of fatalities from the great
Fethry Implosion. Many more characters also shuffled off to Buffalo
(mainly because they too realized they had no reason to exist), but I
haven't the heart to continue listing them. However, I'm sure that the
rest of the readers of this Mailing List can add names to the death
count.
Come on, give it a shot. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of
Disney fans? Not the Shadow, that's for sure (he's still recovering from
the nervous breakdown he suffered after foolishly peering into the dark
recesses of a Donaldist's mind).
the Disney Digests that came in while I was gone. Gad, it seems these
things breed as soon as you turn your back on 'em!
There's probably a lot of silly comments I could make on what's been
written in my absence, but I thought it best to take some time to
address a rather serious subject that's been raised here, namely Ludwig
Von Drake.
I've already talked to Don Rosa about this, so he won't be using Ludwig
in his work in progress, but to avoid such questions in the future, I
figure the rest of you should know why.
You see, something terrible happened to poor old Ludwig.
You know him--always poking his inquisitive beak in all kinds of arcane
research projects. Well, one day he poked a little too far. Yes, he
defied arcanely written dire warnings, ancient curses, and Chinese
fortune cookies and went ahead with a long-planned project to see if he
could discover a reason for Cousin Fethry's existence.
Unfortunately, his conclusion was that there *is* no reason for Fethry
to exist. Upon hearing this, Fethry promptly proceeded to violently
implode. Now this event in and of itself would not have been cause for
any great alarm, but Ludwig was standing a little too close when he
delivered the news (if I recall, he was shining a flashlight through
Fethry's ears), and the physical aftershock of Fethry's implosion
thoroughly smashed, shattered, spindled, folded, and mutilated Ludwig.
The end result was a tiny blob of orange marmalade -- the sole remains
of a once great scientist and TV host.
The *psychic* aftershock of Fethry's implosion also led to many more
fatalities. Among them:
1) Morty and Ferdie
2) Moby Duck
3) The Beagle Brats
4) All the new characters created for DuckTales (with the sole exception
of Launchpad McQuack, who was thankfully stranded in 1,000,000 BC as a
result of his crashing one of Gyro's time machines).
5) The Phantom Blot imposter who has been running around for the last 30
years robbing banks, pinching Grandma Duck's purse, and otherwise
thoroughly besmriching the notorious name of his Great and Awesome
Blackness, the original Blot.
6) Any Beagle Boy who looks the slightest bit different from all the
rest of the gang.
7) Chip 'n' Dale as Rescue Rangers.
8) Emil Eagle
9) Scrooge's butler
10) Every super goober in existence.
11) Hordes of David Gerstein's favorite bit players.
Actually, this isn't even the final list of fatalities from the great
Fethry Implosion. Many more characters also shuffled off to Buffalo
(mainly because they too realized they had no reason to exist), but I
haven't the heart to continue listing them. However, I'm sure that the
rest of the readers of this Mailing List can add names to the death
count.
Come on, give it a shot. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of
Disney fans? Not the Shadow, that's for sure (he's still recovering from
the nervous breakdown he suffered after foolishly peering into the dark
recesses of a Donaldist's mind).
Harry Fluks
Jakob / Jonathan / Jakob
Message 29 -
1996-10-02 at 23:18:54
Jakob:
> Btw, I didn't see that 'golden-coat' *anywhere* but in that one
> Barks-panel.
Neither did I. I don't think anyone used that coat again in a story.
> Well, [Ludwig Von Drake] *is* $crooge's cousin! At least in the stories *I've* read
> with him...
Interesting. In the first Dutch LVD story, everyone calls him *Uncle*. Could it
be that the Swedish translators decided he was Scrooge's cousin? (What's
a cousin in Swedish? A farbrorson?)
>> ("The Pied Piper of Duckburg")
>> Just for the record: Barks only wrote (and penciled) the first 3 pages of this
>> story.
> Are those printed in the CBL?
Yep.
>> ("Treasure Under Glass")
>> There is no original Dutch issue. I said the Dutch reserved a code
> I want that story-code...
It's H 8967. (Or, in the "normalised" form I use in the database: H 89067.)
>> BTW: why don't you use the Don Rosa index to update your own index?
> Who says I need to update it from other sources than my subscriptions?
I'm only trying to avoid double work. There seem to be a lot of Rosa-indexes,
all developed independently from each other.
Jonathan:
> This is getting off-topic, but could you give me some advice on computer
> problems? What happened is, starting a month or so ago, I had so much mail
> in my mailbox that it had to "compact mailboxes" whenever I shut it.
Jakob:
> I converted the file INBOX.MTX
> into a .txt-file, and made a new INBOX.MTX. I hope this is of any help...
This is one way to solve it. Maybe your mail program also gives the possibility
to save mail messages to file(s). I think saving to file and deleting the messages
from the mail program is the best way to go (for instance once a week).
--Harry.
> Btw, I didn't see that 'golden-coat' *anywhere* but in that one
> Barks-panel.
Neither did I. I don't think anyone used that coat again in a story.
> Well, [Ludwig Von Drake] *is* $crooge's cousin! At least in the stories *I've* read
> with him...
Interesting. In the first Dutch LVD story, everyone calls him *Uncle*. Could it
be that the Swedish translators decided he was Scrooge's cousin? (What's
a cousin in Swedish? A farbrorson?)
>> ("The Pied Piper of Duckburg")
>> Just for the record: Barks only wrote (and penciled) the first 3 pages of this
>> story.
> Are those printed in the CBL?
Yep.
>> ("Treasure Under Glass")
>> There is no original Dutch issue. I said the Dutch reserved a code
> I want that story-code...
It's H 8967. (Or, in the "normalised" form I use in the database: H 89067.)
>> BTW: why don't you use the Don Rosa index to update your own index?
> Who says I need to update it from other sources than my subscriptions?
I'm only trying to avoid double work. There seem to be a lot of Rosa-indexes,
all developed independently from each other.
Jonathan:
> This is getting off-topic, but could you give me some advice on computer
> problems? What happened is, starting a month or so ago, I had so much mail
> in my mailbox that it had to "compact mailboxes" whenever I shut it.
Jakob:
> I converted the file INBOX.MTX
> into a .txt-file, and made a new INBOX.MTX. I hope this is of any help...
This is one way to solve it. Maybe your mail program also gives the possibility
to save mail messages to file(s). I think saving to file and deleting the messages
from the mail program is the best way to go (for instance once a week).
--Harry.
Harry Fluks
Bats
Message 30 -
1996-10-02 at 23:27:30
Dwight:
("It's Bats, Man!" from DD Adventures [Disney] 6)
> Somebody really worked hard to squeeze the joke in...and the
> translator was just lucky that Danish had an expression ("rats on
> the roof") so close to "bats in the belfry."
The Dutch language has no expression like that. The translation was literal,
so the joke was completely lost in the Dutch version.
--Harry.
("It's Bats, Man!" from DD Adventures [Disney] 6)
> Somebody really worked hard to squeeze the joke in...and the
> translator was just lucky that Danish had an expression ("rats on
> the roof") so close to "bats in the belfry."
The Dutch language has no expression like that. The translation was literal,
so the joke was completely lost in the Dutch version.
--Harry.