MARCO:
Stop trying. There doesn't seem to BE a "D.U.C.K." in "The Duck Who Never
Was" splash panel. There was a time when I only put that dedication in
covers that were based on a Barks story or one of my own stories... but then
I realized that that would drive people nuts looking for it when it wasn't
there. But as to why it wasn't in "The Duck Who Never Was" splash panel -- I
dunno. Perhaps I hid it so well that I failed to ink it. It was s'posed to
be there, and I spent long minutes searching for it myself when it was
published. But don't make yerself crazy! T'ain't thar'!
DWIGHT:
I wouldn't bother trying to communicate with the "David Johnson" kid. He
apparently isn't reading this Digest or these messages, he's simply firing
messages off at Disney forums trying to garner replies. I notice that
getting personal replies seems to be his only mission, and now it has turned
from a request into a demand with threats. Rather annoying. I tried directly
sending him a message similar to yours, but the e-mail address in his
messages is invalid. Pretty odd way to get replies, eh? Well, thank gosh we
have so few kids like this sending clutter into our forum.
ALL:
Here's an odd bit of info I stumbled across last week. We all know who
Western Publishing is, right? The American mega-publisher (sorta like
Egmont) who has held the American license since 1934 for ALL Disney paper
toys such as coloring books, puzzle books, jigsaw puzzles, games, etc., etc.
... as well as COMIC BOOKS until the American comic book market became so
unprofitable that they relinquished that license and opened the way for
wonderful Gladstone to glom it some years later. Anyway, Western is the
creator (via their employee Carl Barks) of Duckburg, $crooge McDuck,
Gladstone Gander, etc.)
Anyway, I just found that in 1955 when Disneyland opened, Western Publishing
OWNED 14% of the whole shebang. They were one of the three main original
investors. I wonder what became of that share? Disney surely had an option
to buy it out, and probably did so long ago... but if Western retained a 14%
share of the Disney theme parks, I wonder why they still publish anything.
They could just shut down their whole company and let the money pour in the
door.
Author
Topic: 199610
(312 messages)
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #226
Message 181 -
1996-10-16 at 19:07:22
Harald Havas
Donald's middle
Message 182 -
1996-10-16 at 20:37:43
DONALD'S MIDDLE NAME
According to a guy who writes about Disney-stuff in a local network,
Donald's middle name is "Fauntleroy".
I very much doubted this info, but he cites a short called "Donald
gets drafted" as source. There, on an official paper the name is
shown. Now, is this true? And if it is, is it "canon"?
Generally the shorts seem to be slightly off the comics: like in the
name of HDL's mother: Della in the comics, Dumbella in the shorts...
Donald F. Duck? Doesn't really have a ring to it...
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
According to a guy who writes about Disney-stuff in a local network,
Donald's middle name is "Fauntleroy".
I very much doubted this info, but he cites a short called "Donald
gets drafted" as source. There, on an official paper the name is
shown. Now, is this true? And if it is, is it "canon"?
Generally the shorts seem to be slightly off the comics: like in the
name of HDL's mother: Della in the comics, Dumbella in the shorts...
Donald F. Duck? Doesn't really have a ring to it...
--- (Harald Havas) (Email removed)
Deckerd
Disney comics Digest V96 #226
Message 183 -
1996-10-16 at 21:09:03
On Oct 16, 12:07pm, Don Rosa wrote:
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #226
> DWIGHT:
> I wouldn't bother trying to communicate with the "David
> Johnson" kid. He apparently isn't reading this Digest or
> these messages, he's simply firing messages off at Disney
> forums trying to garner replies. I notice that getting
> personal replies seems to be his only mission, and now it
> has turned from a request into a demand with threats.
> Rather annoying.
Well, I sorta got the idea from one of his postings that
he's a fourth grader, and it sounded like getting replies
is some sort of class project. I've heard of classes that
do that kind of thing, with little contests to see who gets
the most e-mail responses from strangers pestered into
replying or from the countries furthest away.
> Well, thank gosh we have so few kids like this sending
> clutter into our forum.
>
I don't know...in a way, it's too bad we don't. Widdle kids
really are the traditional audience for Disney comics, not
grey-haired old veterans like us, and it's too bad more of
the young'uns aren't interested. If some sincerely interested
kids came our way, I'm all for welcoming them, if they can
put with discussions of classic stories they haven't read
or foreign editions in countries they never heard of. That's
why I was polite and patient with our little friend just now --
in the hope he might be inveigled into buying Gladstones with
his allowance money. If I said something like, "Look, squirt,
does your mother know you're using her computer?!", he might
not be receptive.
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #226
> DWIGHT:
> I wouldn't bother trying to communicate with the "David
> Johnson" kid. He apparently isn't reading this Digest or
> these messages, he's simply firing messages off at Disney
> forums trying to garner replies. I notice that getting
> personal replies seems to be his only mission, and now it
> has turned from a request into a demand with threats.
> Rather annoying.
Well, I sorta got the idea from one of his postings that
he's a fourth grader, and it sounded like getting replies
is some sort of class project. I've heard of classes that
do that kind of thing, with little contests to see who gets
the most e-mail responses from strangers pestered into
replying or from the countries furthest away.
> Well, thank gosh we have so few kids like this sending
> clutter into our forum.
>
I don't know...in a way, it's too bad we don't. Widdle kids
really are the traditional audience for Disney comics, not
grey-haired old veterans like us, and it's too bad more of
the young'uns aren't interested. If some sincerely interested
kids came our way, I'm all for welcoming them, if they can
put with discussions of classic stories they haven't read
or foreign editions in countries they never heard of. That's
why I was polite and patient with our little friend just now --
in the hope he might be inveigled into buying Gladstones with
his allowance money. If I said something like, "Look, squirt,
does your mother know you're using her computer?!", he might
not be receptive.
--Dwight Decker
Markoff
U$ 301 and WDC&S 606
Message 184 -
1996-10-17 at 01:53:49
GLADSTONE:
I just read US 301 and WDC&S 606, so it's time for the usual rants to pour out.
"The Moving Money Bin" was a very good Egmont story. Was the script by David
Gerstein? I also enjoyed "Mind Over Mustard." The credits were wrong,
though. The story resembles Vic Lockman and the art is by Phil De Lara. "The
Moving Money Bin" is coded wrong. (What is the real code?) Of course I liked
"Statuesque Spendthrifts," but I've seen it before.
"Winging It" was a great Van Horn story. The second chapter of "The Phantom
Blot" was better than the first, and I'm quite surprised Disney let certain
parts of it see print. It was harmed, though, by size reduction. "Travelling
Truants" was a classic Barks 10-pager, and "Fit to be Pied" was a neat
example of early Rosa. (Wow--we've reached the point when we can actually
distinguish periods!) OTOH, "Milktime Melodies," IMHO, is one of Barks'
weaker Gyro stories, and "A Goofy Look At Love" isn't as good as some other
"look" stories. The Murry gag was okay, if nothing else it let us see
SOMETHING of Murry's MM. Concluding the issue was "The Universal Solvent,"
which was great like all Rosa stories. I didn't care much for the mechanical
lettering--will Todd Klein be working for Gladstone again? (BTW, the codes
of "TUS" and "WI" seem to be each printed on the other story.)
One concern I have is the lack of "lesser-known-characters" stories in this
title. Except for the Chip'n'Dale gag, everything was either Ducks, Mickey,
or Goofy, and even M and G were given short shrift! I also dislike the fact
that "The Phantom Blot" serial overlaps with both "The Universal Solvent"
and "The Once and Future Duck." IMHO, WDC&S should be like this in content:
A WVH ten-pager
15 or so pages of characters like Lil Bad Wolf, Chip'n'Dale, Bucky Bug, etc.
30 or so pages of MM (such as a complete FG story or CF/PM 24-page serial)
Here's some MM stories I'd like to see:
Gottfredson:
"Death Valley" (Maybe in 1998 for MM's 70th anniversary, or perhaps in 2000,
70 years
after its first printing?)
Any story with with Eega Beeva in it
Fallberg and/or Murry:
"Riding the Rails" (WDC 173-175)
"Return of the Phantom Blot" (WDC 284-287)
Gerstein:
"Digging Up Trouble"
"The Egg Collector"
"The Cavern in the Shifting Sands"
I just read US 301 and WDC&S 606, so it's time for the usual rants to pour out.
"The Moving Money Bin" was a very good Egmont story. Was the script by David
Gerstein? I also enjoyed "Mind Over Mustard." The credits were wrong,
though. The story resembles Vic Lockman and the art is by Phil De Lara. "The
Moving Money Bin" is coded wrong. (What is the real code?) Of course I liked
"Statuesque Spendthrifts," but I've seen it before.
"Winging It" was a great Van Horn story. The second chapter of "The Phantom
Blot" was better than the first, and I'm quite surprised Disney let certain
parts of it see print. It was harmed, though, by size reduction. "Travelling
Truants" was a classic Barks 10-pager, and "Fit to be Pied" was a neat
example of early Rosa. (Wow--we've reached the point when we can actually
distinguish periods!) OTOH, "Milktime Melodies," IMHO, is one of Barks'
weaker Gyro stories, and "A Goofy Look At Love" isn't as good as some other
"look" stories. The Murry gag was okay, if nothing else it let us see
SOMETHING of Murry's MM. Concluding the issue was "The Universal Solvent,"
which was great like all Rosa stories. I didn't care much for the mechanical
lettering--will Todd Klein be working for Gladstone again? (BTW, the codes
of "TUS" and "WI" seem to be each printed on the other story.)
One concern I have is the lack of "lesser-known-characters" stories in this
title. Except for the Chip'n'Dale gag, everything was either Ducks, Mickey,
or Goofy, and even M and G were given short shrift! I also dislike the fact
that "The Phantom Blot" serial overlaps with both "The Universal Solvent"
and "The Once and Future Duck." IMHO, WDC&S should be like this in content:
A WVH ten-pager
15 or so pages of characters like Lil Bad Wolf, Chip'n'Dale, Bucky Bug, etc.
30 or so pages of MM (such as a complete FG story or CF/PM 24-page serial)
Here's some MM stories I'd like to see:
Gottfredson:
"Death Valley" (Maybe in 1998 for MM's 70th anniversary, or perhaps in 2000,
70 years
after its first printing?)
Any story with with Eega Beeva in it
Fallberg and/or Murry:
"Riding the Rails" (WDC 173-175)
"Return of the Phantom Blot" (WDC 284-287)
Gerstein:
"Digging Up Trouble"
"The Egg Collector"
"The Cavern in the Shifting Sands"
Shaun M. Knowler
U$A albums
Message 185 -
1996-10-17 at 03:31:25
GARY LEACH:
48 pages? 3 issues worth? Great guns! Will that effect the price? It's
already steep enough for us Canadian collectors! ($12.50...Ouch, eh?)
-Shaun
48 pages? 3 issues worth? Great guns! Will that effect the price? It's
already steep enough for us Canadian collectors! ($12.50...Ouch, eh?)
-Shaun
Marco Barlotti
The empire of evil
Message 186 -
1996-10-17 at 12:42:09
JACOB:
>
>It looks like I will have to admit that I'm one of those uneducated guys
>that doesn't know much, if any, Italian.
>
I am quite good at Italian, but my English is so poor that I can't afford a
translation, just a short paraphrase. Did you have to look on your
dictionary for this last word? I did too :-)
>Is there a chance that somebody would translate the "empire of evil" article
>
So here is a (not necessarily faithful) SUMMARY of the essay on Walt Disney
Italy from the Italian fanzine "Glamazonia". The original text can be found at
<http://www.comune.modena.it/glamazonia/articoli/misfatti.htm>
and, please, remember that whatever follows is an adaptation from
"Glamazonia" and is not my personal opinion (although I DO agree on some of
the ideas expressed in the first part).
HOW DO THEY CHOOSE THE SCRIPTS AT WALT DISNEY ITALY ?
There is a rumor that a lot of scripts were prepared, as a sort of supply,
when WD took the place of Mondadori as publisher of "Topolino", and that
they are using them now regardless of their poor standard. There is also a
different rumor that a lot of scripts by Guido Martina are still waiting to
be used... Anyway, how come scripts are sloppy, repetitive and not
respectful of the Disneyan characters ?
A recent poll revealed that three readers out of four are adults; then why
are the scripts getting more and more childish and the drawings more and
more doll-like ? A rumor says that only friends of friends are asked to work
on the scripts and drawings. Moreover: since WD is publishing a bi-monthly
called "TopoMistery" why are MM detective stories being no more produced ?
Why only two to three "SuperDuck" stories are produced yearly, while the
"SuperDuck" monthly is publishing pure garbage ?
AND HOW DO THEY CHOOSE THE EDITORS ?
How come editors of "Topolino" have no comics experience at all ?
AND HOW DO THEY MAKE CONTRACTS ?
WD asks people to work ONLY for WD, but does not commit itself into granting
them a minimum of work. Moreover they have changed the rules for
script-writers and artists: they no more get a percentage on reprints, only
on new stories (and this is obviously a loss for long-time writers and
artists). Not to mention the fact that WD does not give back to the artists
their original work [never heard about this before on this ML ? My comment]
so lots and lots of artwork are lost. What a pity that no author yet has
protested for this.
NEXT ISSUE: HOW WD GETS RID OF UNWELCOME ARTISTS
As I said, this is only a rough summary of an ANONYMOUS opinion (by a Mr.
Olrik, clearly a pseudonym).
Marco
>
>It looks like I will have to admit that I'm one of those uneducated guys
>that doesn't know much, if any, Italian.
>
I am quite good at Italian, but my English is so poor that I can't afford a
translation, just a short paraphrase. Did you have to look on your
dictionary for this last word? I did too :-)
>Is there a chance that somebody would translate the "empire of evil" article
>
So here is a (not necessarily faithful) SUMMARY of the essay on Walt Disney
Italy from the Italian fanzine "Glamazonia". The original text can be found at
<http://www.comune.modena.it/glamazonia/articoli/misfatti.htm>
and, please, remember that whatever follows is an adaptation from
"Glamazonia" and is not my personal opinion (although I DO agree on some of
the ideas expressed in the first part).
HOW DO THEY CHOOSE THE SCRIPTS AT WALT DISNEY ITALY ?
There is a rumor that a lot of scripts were prepared, as a sort of supply,
when WD took the place of Mondadori as publisher of "Topolino", and that
they are using them now regardless of their poor standard. There is also a
different rumor that a lot of scripts by Guido Martina are still waiting to
be used... Anyway, how come scripts are sloppy, repetitive and not
respectful of the Disneyan characters ?
A recent poll revealed that three readers out of four are adults; then why
are the scripts getting more and more childish and the drawings more and
more doll-like ? A rumor says that only friends of friends are asked to work
on the scripts and drawings. Moreover: since WD is publishing a bi-monthly
called "TopoMistery" why are MM detective stories being no more produced ?
Why only two to three "SuperDuck" stories are produced yearly, while the
"SuperDuck" monthly is publishing pure garbage ?
AND HOW DO THEY CHOOSE THE EDITORS ?
How come editors of "Topolino" have no comics experience at all ?
AND HOW DO THEY MAKE CONTRACTS ?
WD asks people to work ONLY for WD, but does not commit itself into granting
them a minimum of work. Moreover they have changed the rules for
script-writers and artists: they no more get a percentage on reprints, only
on new stories (and this is obviously a loss for long-time writers and
artists). Not to mention the fact that WD does not give back to the artists
their original work [never heard about this before on this ML ? My comment]
so lots and lots of artwork are lost. What a pity that no author yet has
protested for this.
NEXT ISSUE: HOW WD GETS RID OF UNWELCOME ARTISTS
As I said, this is only a rough summary of an ANONYMOUS opinion (by a Mr.
Olrik, clearly a pseudonym).
Marco
Marco Barlotti
The sex of the fox
Message 187 -
1996-10-17 at 13:11:44
>>Br'er Fox has a Sis Fox to serve as his love interest? Wonder how
>>often this character has appeared (I've never seen her, myself).
>
In the Italian translations of Unle Remus' stories (which date back to the
50's, I haven't seen any later one), the two guys who pester Br'er Rabbit
are a MALE Bear and a FEMALE Fox.
Marco
>>often this character has appeared (I've never seen her, myself).
>
In the Italian translations of Unle Remus' stories (which date back to the
50's, I haven't seen any later one), the two guys who pester Br'er Rabbit
are a MALE Bear and a FEMALE Fox.
Marco
Markoff
Widdle kids
Message 188 -
1996-10-17 at 18:39:02
DWIGHT:
>I don't know...in a way, it's too bad we don't. Widdle kids
>really are the traditional audience for Disney comics, not
>grey-haired old veterans like us, and it's too bad more of
>the young'uns aren't interested. If some sincerely interested
>kids came our way, I'm all for welcoming them, if they can
>put with discussions of classic stories they haven't read
>or foreign editions in countries they never heard of.
I myself am 15 years and 11 months, so it's possible!
--Jonathan Markoff
>I don't know...in a way, it's too bad we don't. Widdle kids
>really are the traditional audience for Disney comics, not
>grey-haired old veterans like us, and it's too bad more of
>the young'uns aren't interested. If some sincerely interested
>kids came our way, I'm all for welcoming them, if they can
>put with discussions of classic stories they haven't read
>or foreign editions in countries they never heard of.
I myself am 15 years and 11 months, so it's possible!
--Jonathan Markoff
Per Starback
sending
Message 189 -
1996-10-17 at 18:51:51
Michael asked:
> What time of day (your time) is the Digest sent out?
No particular time. Why? It's sent out when a new message is sent
in which would make the digest too big, or when holding on to it any
longer would make the digest too old. Those checks are made each time
a new message arrives, and there's also an extra check at 6am my local
time. That's the only fixed time about this.
> What time of day (your time) is the Digest sent out?
No particular time. Why? It's sent out when a new message is sent
in which would make the digest too big, or when holding on to it any
longer would make the digest too old. Those checks are made each time
a new message arrives, and there's also an extra check at 6am my local
time. That's the only fixed time about this.
Christer Hanssen
Code
Message 190 -
1996-10-17 at 18:56:36
I said last day about new comics in Norway. Now I've checked the stories in
the Junior Woodchuck comics and they have a I.G.M. code. Does someone now
what it means? Is it an Italian one?
Christer Hanssen
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #227
******************************************
the Junior Woodchuck comics and they have a I.G.M. code. Does someone now
what it means? Is it an Italian one?
Christer Hanssen
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V96 Issue #227
******************************************
Deckerd
Widdle kids
Message 191 -
1996-10-17 at 19:41:07
On Oct 17, 11:39am, markoff wrote:
> Subject: Widdle kids
> I myself am 15 years and 11 months, so it's possible!
>
I think conventional wisdom would have it that you
should have grown too old for Disney comic books some
years ago. Of course, I formed my idea of conventional
wisdom when I was 15, which was several geologic
ages ago. I recall that I was getting pretty lonely
as a comic-book reader around my school when I was 14 or so.
These days, it sounds like getting kids to read at all,
anything at all, is the big challenge for parents and
teachers. In the old days, people grumped about kids
rotting their minds by reading comic books, and today
reading comic books would at least be reading something.
I gave some extra copies of some Gladstone comics to a
friend of mine at work for him to take home to his 12-year-
old, and the report I got back was that the kid read them
reluctantly, out of a sense of duty, because his father
wanted him to, and he'd really rather be fiddling with
something like a computer game with flashing lights and
lots of noise. (And the idea that he read a comic book
because his parent insisted is a far cry from what my
generation had to put up with from our parents...)
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Widdle kids
> I myself am 15 years and 11 months, so it's possible!
>
I think conventional wisdom would have it that you
should have grown too old for Disney comic books some
years ago. Of course, I formed my idea of conventional
wisdom when I was 15, which was several geologic
ages ago. I recall that I was getting pretty lonely
as a comic-book reader around my school when I was 14 or so.
These days, it sounds like getting kids to read at all,
anything at all, is the big challenge for parents and
teachers. In the old days, people grumped about kids
rotting their minds by reading comic books, and today
reading comic books would at least be reading something.
I gave some extra copies of some Gladstone comics to a
friend of mine at work for him to take home to his 12-year-
old, and the report I got back was that the kid read them
reluctantly, out of a sense of duty, because his father
wanted him to, and he'd really rather be fiddling with
something like a computer game with flashing lights and
lots of noise. (And the idea that he read a comic book
because his parent insisted is a far cry from what my
generation had to put up with from our parents...)
--Dwight Decker
Deckerd
Disney comics Digest V96 #224
Message 192 -
1996-10-17 at 21:21:44
On Oct 15, 4:43pm, Dan Shane wrote:
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #224
> As I said, I don't confuse "magic" as presented in the media with
false
> religious practices that are in wide use, so Magica's antics are okay
by
> me.
Well, it's all a matter of opinion. Myself, I stumble over the
idea of "false" religious practices, since every religion has
its own ideas of what's false and proper, and trying to make
one group happy is only going to get a lot of others mad.
> But we have presidents of large countries consulting the stars to
> discern how to govern, and I find it distasteful to even consider the
> giving the subject any pretense of credibility...
If you're referring to the Reagans...I recall being at a
skeptics' conference some years ago (and the obvious
parallel with the skeptics' dinner in Barks's Microduck
story was not lost on me at the time), where a magician spoke
on the subject of politicians and the occult. While there's
a long and strange history of politicians and fortunetellers,
the Reagans were a bit exceptional in that they had been
actors. In showbiz, where life is unpredictable and unstable,
where people find their lives and careers subject to forces
beyond their control, there's a natural tendency to look for
_something_ that promises answers. Show people as a class are
extremely superstitious, and Ron and Nancy just took that
along with them into politics. Politics is another field
where fortune is precarious and the temptation is strong
to look for something that promises answers, so politicians
consulting soothsayers and oracles has a _long_ history.
The magician giving this talk wound up by saying that as a
patriotic Canadian, he was not about to let his country take
secondplace to the States in the Superstitious Leaders
Sweepstakes, and he told of a Canadian prime minister
(Mackenzie King) who held seances while in office and
consulted with the spirits.
This is a bit off-topic, of course...but it reminds me of
a Mad Madam Mim gag I was thinking of submitting to Egmont.
Basically, Mim is cheated by a door-to-door salesman selling
a defective product, and she is so outraged that she casts
a spell wiping out all forms of sham and deception. She
goes a little too wide in her spellcasting, however, and
in the last panel we see that an astrologer's shop has
a sign reading CLOSED on the door, a sports arena has a
sign announcing that all professional wrestling matches
have been cancelled FOREVER, and over at the Museum of Modern
Art, the curator is running out the door screaming that
everything in the place has disappeared.
--Dwight Decker
> Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V96 #224
> As I said, I don't confuse "magic" as presented in the media with
false
> religious practices that are in wide use, so Magica's antics are okay
by
> me.
Well, it's all a matter of opinion. Myself, I stumble over the
idea of "false" religious practices, since every religion has
its own ideas of what's false and proper, and trying to make
one group happy is only going to get a lot of others mad.
> But we have presidents of large countries consulting the stars to
> discern how to govern, and I find it distasteful to even consider the
> giving the subject any pretense of credibility...
If you're referring to the Reagans...I recall being at a
skeptics' conference some years ago (and the obvious
parallel with the skeptics' dinner in Barks's Microduck
story was not lost on me at the time), where a magician spoke
on the subject of politicians and the occult. While there's
a long and strange history of politicians and fortunetellers,
the Reagans were a bit exceptional in that they had been
actors. In showbiz, where life is unpredictable and unstable,
where people find their lives and careers subject to forces
beyond their control, there's a natural tendency to look for
_something_ that promises answers. Show people as a class are
extremely superstitious, and Ron and Nancy just took that
along with them into politics. Politics is another field
where fortune is precarious and the temptation is strong
to look for something that promises answers, so politicians
consulting soothsayers and oracles has a _long_ history.
The magician giving this talk wound up by saying that as a
patriotic Canadian, he was not about to let his country take
secondplace to the States in the Superstitious Leaders
Sweepstakes, and he told of a Canadian prime minister
(Mackenzie King) who held seances while in office and
consulted with the spirits.
This is a bit off-topic, of course...but it reminds me of
a Mad Madam Mim gag I was thinking of submitting to Egmont.
Basically, Mim is cheated by a door-to-door salesman selling
a defective product, and she is so outraged that she casts
a spell wiping out all forms of sham and deception. She
goes a little too wide in her spellcasting, however, and
in the last panel we see that an astrologer's shop has
a sign reading CLOSED on the door, a sports arena has a
sign announcing that all professional wrestling matches
have been cancelled FOREVER, and over at the Museum of Modern
Art, the curator is running out the door screaming that
everything in the place has disappeared.
--Dwight Decker
Fabrizio
PK & GM
Message 193 -
1996-10-17 at 22:00:05
Christer:
.. The first is about Super-Duck. This is one of those
> high-tech hypo action things and is called "The time-thief "(Tidstyven).[...]it looks Italian. Someone who reckons it?
Yes, it is Italian. It is a story published in the newest Italian Disney
comic, called "PK-Paperinik New Adventures". So far, only three issues
have been published; they feature hi-tech sci-fi stories and have a
particular computer-aided coloring.
The 1st story (written by A. Sisti, art by A. Lavoradori) was called
"Evroniani", the 2nd is by Sisti and C. Sciarrone and it was called "Il
vento del tempo" (The wind of time") and the 3rd ("Xadhoom !") is by
Sisti and P. Ackerman.
Of course the first and the last title cannot be translated, as they
mean nothing.
However, at least here, they do have a code ! They are marked I-PKNA-0,
I-PKNA-0/2 and I-PKNA-0/3.
>
> The second is a (ca.)128-pager of The Junior Woodchucks. This also seems to
> contain Italian stories, but I haven't checked it out yet.
It is Italian too. I guess it is part of the new J.W. Italian monthly
called "Giovani Marmotte" (="Junior Woodchucks").
I cannot help you much about this, because I never buy it. Anyway 21
issues have been already published.
Fabrizio.
.. The first is about Super-Duck. This is one of those
> high-tech hypo action things and is called "The time-thief "(Tidstyven).[...]it looks Italian. Someone who reckons it?
Yes, it is Italian. It is a story published in the newest Italian Disney
comic, called "PK-Paperinik New Adventures". So far, only three issues
have been published; they feature hi-tech sci-fi stories and have a
particular computer-aided coloring.
The 1st story (written by A. Sisti, art by A. Lavoradori) was called
"Evroniani", the 2nd is by Sisti and C. Sciarrone and it was called "Il
vento del tempo" (The wind of time") and the 3rd ("Xadhoom !") is by
Sisti and P. Ackerman.
Of course the first and the last title cannot be translated, as they
mean nothing.
However, at least here, they do have a code ! They are marked I-PKNA-0,
I-PKNA-0/2 and I-PKNA-0/3.
>
> The second is a (ca.)128-pager of The Junior Woodchucks. This also seems to
> contain Italian stories, but I haven't checked it out yet.
It is Italian too. I guess it is part of the new J.W. Italian monthly
called "Giovani Marmotte" (="Junior Woodchucks").
I cannot help you much about this, because I never buy it. Anyway 21
issues have been already published.
Fabrizio.
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V96 #227
Message 194 -
1996-10-18 at 00:18:53
DWIGHT:
The operative word in my complaint about the kid in question was not "kid"!
I get plenty of e-mail from kids that age, and I respond to every bit of it
the same as I reply to messages more obviously from adults. Thank gosh there
are kids reading these stories! I was one myself too many years ago! The
operative word was "clutter" -- messages being sent into a forum by someone
who apparently doesn't read the contents and has nothing to contribute other
than a demand for replies, be it from a kid or an adult; wouldn't you say
that was rather like "clutter"?
HARALD:
As I've said before, I view the comic book (Barks) Ducks and their Universe
as wholly different from anything that Disney ever did with that character
with the same general appearance. If the duck in the animated cartoons had a
middle-name of Fauntleroy, how do we know that was the actual character or
the middle-name of the role that Disney's Donald-Duck-the-actor was playing
in that one particular cartoon? There were lots of other old Donald cartoons
which showed him being or doing things we know aren't "true" in the comics
or even in the next Disney cartoon. And more recently we see that Donald
lived in Victorian England or in the England of Henry VIII. If nothing else,
that would at least indicate he's definitely British... but not in the comic
books.
Is the middle name of the comic book Donald Duck "Fauntleroy"? Maybe it is,
but not because that's what an old Disney cartoon-short said. Think of them
as two different Ducks or there's no end to the contradictions. Same with Al
Talliaferro's Donald, the "Ducktales" Donald, lord knows the "Quackpack"
Donald (and nephews!!!!)... all different Donalds.
The operative word in my complaint about the kid in question was not "kid"!
I get plenty of e-mail from kids that age, and I respond to every bit of it
the same as I reply to messages more obviously from adults. Thank gosh there
are kids reading these stories! I was one myself too many years ago! The
operative word was "clutter" -- messages being sent into a forum by someone
who apparently doesn't read the contents and has nothing to contribute other
than a demand for replies, be it from a kid or an adult; wouldn't you say
that was rather like "clutter"?
HARALD:
As I've said before, I view the comic book (Barks) Ducks and their Universe
as wholly different from anything that Disney ever did with that character
with the same general appearance. If the duck in the animated cartoons had a
middle-name of Fauntleroy, how do we know that was the actual character or
the middle-name of the role that Disney's Donald-Duck-the-actor was playing
in that one particular cartoon? There were lots of other old Donald cartoons
which showed him being or doing things we know aren't "true" in the comics
or even in the next Disney cartoon. And more recently we see that Donald
lived in Victorian England or in the England of Henry VIII. If nothing else,
that would at least indicate he's definitely British... but not in the comic
books.
Is the middle name of the comic book Donald Duck "Fauntleroy"? Maybe it is,
but not because that's what an old Disney cartoon-short said. Think of them
as two different Ducks or there's no end to the contradictions. Same with Al
Talliaferro's Donald, the "Ducktales" Donald, lord knows the "Quackpack"
Donald (and nephews!!!!)... all different Donalds.
Michael Naiman
Taliaferro question
Message 195 -
1996-10-18 at 04:51:06
In "Donald Duck and the Hidden Gold" (1951) Al Taliaferro was given artist
credit for the art work. Had his name ever appeared before or after in any
book that Western published...or was it the usual Disney procedure of not
giving credit where due?
credit for the art work. Had his name ever appeared before or after in any
book that Western published...or was it the usual Disney procedure of not
giving credit where due?