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> From: <DGE at ECN.egmont.com>
> PICSOU no longer prints (much) new French material, that's true, due
> to the "conversion to Barks and Rosa".

They never published much new French material. Only 2 or 3 gags at most,
beginning in the late 80s. They had never published any original new story
before Rosa, only gags.

Now they have switched to another format: publication of a long Rosa story
now an then.

There were three series of gags published in Picsou : Launchpad McQuack,
Fethry Duck and Uncle Scrooge gags (in chronological order).
I also saw some scripts of a Gladstone series which was not published - it's
too bad because the gags were EXCELLENT.

Before that, there was virtually no creation, except one Goofy Marin gag,
and a few Dufranne games comics.

***
Recently, with "Michel Souris", Hachette started to print new stories in
Mickey-Parade for the first time ever. (Before that, there were only a few
game page comics that appeared in Mickey Parade, which barely look like
comics).

But they also cut the production in "P'tit Loup" to only one page, replacing
it with good but non-Disney comics. In "Winnie" and "Bambi" the production
is still the same, and of course the "Journal de Mickey" which publishes
most of the new French stories.

They also have added a few new original comics in Super Picsou G?ant for the
first time ever (if we except some early Marin gag pages published in the
late 70s).

From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
>>>>>>>>a cartoon I watched the other day.
It's called Donald's diary, and showed how
Donald was hung and then met Daisy.

Oh, so? Nudge, nudge, say no more, say no more.

Op 15-05-2001 12:02 schreef dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se
<dcml-request at stp.ling.uu.se>:

> (...) whistlers mother - whoever painted that painting?

See <http://www.aaronartprints.com/whistler.html>

Or, quoting chief of police Bulle Bas: "You're under arrest, Bommel! What's
your name?"

:)

I am being told that I have made a very straneg sentence there.
In the cartoon I talked about Daisy made a trap, and Donald steps in
it, and discovers her then, when he's hanging, upside down - lifts his
hat and says hello. I recall somewhat the same scene being in Marco
Rota's story of a Life in an eggshell.
I have no idea what coherences my sentence may have... any of them
wasn't intended.

Yours
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk

(Sat May 12 20:42:29 2001):

Henri Kunne:
>There's such a thing as an average, and a very large majority considers
>the Dutch average lots higher than the Danish average - and has done so
>for years.
>
>Please give at least one example (with Dutch issue number) of a "very
>good" Danish story. I cannot think of one; the highest rate I ever gave
>one, is 'reasonable'.
>
>

What kind of story is "very good" - a combination of
very good artwork having a very good script I guess?

I'm sure there must have been at least stories "very good"
Danish stories in Dutch weeklies. Since it's hard to say
what You are considering "very good" here's fifteen
examples: Please, see these recent stories below:

DD1998-03: D 95148 Stuntman van het jaar (10 pages, Vicar)
DD1998-14: D 92199 Ballenspel met bijgeloof (10 pages, Branca)
DD1998-17: D 94238 Het schrikbeeld (10 pages, Branca)
DD1998-18: D 93511 De Dagobert-duplicator (10 pages, Branca)
DD1998-28: D 92085 De laatste trend (10 pages, Branca)
DD1998-53: D 95062 Oud (zeer) en nieuw (12 pages, Vicar)
DD1999-17: D 97258 DD als plaatjes-praatjesmaker (12 pages, Vicar)
DD2000-02: D 97148 De bange waaghals (12 pages, Vicar)
DD2000-05: D 97462 Gelukkig zit het soms tegen (12 pages, Vicar)
DD2000-06: D 98043 Tureluurs van een tutu (12 pages, Vicar)
DD2000-19: D 90290 GY (untitled) (1 page, Torres)
DD2000-28: D 97375 Geen bezwaar tegen gevaar (12 pages, Vicar)
DD2000-32: D 8288 DD als meestermonteur (8 pages, Vicar)
DD2000-35: D 95010 Het geval van de plastic piramides (12 pages, Vicar)
DD2000-42: D 4657 DD als babysitter (8 pages, Cerdan)
...
And one more from Dutch "Donald Duck Extra", really exellent one:

DE1995-06: D 92325 DD In Frankrijk (12 pages, Vicar)

If you find none of them being "very good" - then I
really don't know. In that case maybe You could provide
us some examples about "very good" Dutch stories? :)

It's a sad thing that our weeklies are so limited.
Lot's of material produced in Holland is never seen in
elsewhere - and lot's of Danish production is never seen
in Holland.
E.g. Egmont's mouse stories in Dutch weeklies: there has
not been many long stories in Dutch weekly Donald Duck:

DD1994-01-04: D 90030 MM De verdwenen trein (16 pages, Ferioli)
DD1997-34-36: D 89262 MM Ballerina's en geboefte (15 pages, Ferioli)

Read them carefully - Those stories are worth seeing!
Some of Ferioli's other Mickey stories have been seen in
other Disney comic series in Holland, but in the last decade
in Egmont weeklies there was published over 50 multi-part
Mickey -stories drawn by Ferioli. Can you imagine of that?
It really had some "special kind of continuity" you can't
find from weeklies filled with short fillers.

- Simo

BTW - If someone wants to see the other publications for
those stories mentioned above then see them from INDUCKS:

http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+95148
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+92199
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+94238
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+93511
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+92085
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+95062
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+97258
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+97148
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+97462
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+98043
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+90290
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+97375
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+8288
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+95010
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+4657

Extra:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+92325

Ferioli:
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+90030
http://stp.ling.uu.se/cgi-bin/starback/dcml/story?D+89262

I wanted to speak about the future in Duckburg, which has been treated a few
time ago...
I want to create a new section in my site about the future.

In H94108, Donald goes at Gyro's, but Gyro isn't there. Donald sees a
machine where is written "Time Travel". So he goes in it, and the machine
makes him go 20 years later.
Donaldville (the french word for Duckburg) has become a very futuristic
town, and is now called G?oville (Gyroville, or Gearlooseburg...).
He is catched by the police, because he hasn't got his "Gyro-passport",
neither his "Gyro-creditcard"...
It makes me think about Barks' WGGOS 1184, where Gyro has made Duckburg more
modern.
At the police office, he is searching a lawyer on a computer, and choose the
"Duck, Duck & Duck firm", just seeing the name.
He didn't think that those were his nephews, Huey, Dewey and Louie Duck who
will come. They are shown as tall as gyro, serious and they say that they're
married.They also say that Daisy and Gladstone have married twenty years ago
because Donald had disappeared (because he went to the future...)
Gladstone and Daisy are also shown much older.
Donald is disgusted, and he finally goes in the machine and back to his
present...
And Gyro tells him : "ha! I see that you have had a trip in the VIRTUAL
future of my new SIMULATOR machine !"
So everything was in fact like a dream...

Then, there exists a drawing By Don Rosa were we can see Huey, Dewey and
Louie who are older, Donald and Daisy who are much older, and finally
married (the ring!...), and Scrooge's tombsone.

I have heard about an episode of Ducktales in which Webby marries Bubba in
the future.

I have a story, B870024, in PM 192, in which Donald and Daisy marry, at a
church (we recognise Barks' Notre-Duck!), and then they have sixtuplets ( I
dunno if you say it that way, it means six children at the same time) THey
are at least three boys and two girls. At the end, we see Donald and Daisy
much older, and their children, teenagers.
Atthe end, it is said to be a dream, but I don't think so. I think I have
read at lest one time that the drawer had been beholden to do so.
This story makes me think about the cartoon "Donald's Diary" (about Daisy's
mother, in my tree, I will use the picture of her shown when she comes at
Donald's for lunch, not as Whistlers' mother, that I consider as a joke. I
will use the picture of her father when he is on the sofa and shows his
dancers of paper ).

In a cartoon, I don't remember which, we can see Donald and Mr Bee much
older, and we see that Mr Bee is married. Donald is poor.

In an episode of Mouseworks, Mickey is shown with a beard, much older, in
Pluto's thinking bubble.

In another cartoon, Huey, Dewey and Louie are shown teenagers and driving
Donald's car (strange: it isn't the 313)

Gilles MAURICE

Thanks a lot Timo for the link to the site displaying
the Duck versions of famous paintings!
And (in case she reads this) all my thanks to Renate
for putting them online!

Olivier