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From: "Hutcherson, Jeff" <Jeff.Hutcherson at disney.com>
>Subject: Clarabelle Cow and Goofy
>I work with the Disney company and am doing research on
>Goofy and Clarabelle. Specifically, I am looking for
>the name of one of the comic books from the late sixties
>that show Goofy and Clarabelle having romantic interest
>in one another.

Poor Horace. :(

Hello Jeff,

I don't have access to my comics at the moment, but many of the examples of
Goofy & Clarabelle being romantically inclined are from the SUPER GOOF
series and from the WALT DISNEY COMICS DIGEST series, usually drawn/written
by Paul Murry. One of my favorites is from WALT DISNEY SHOWCASE #8 called
"Goofy's Big Day." I think I like that story because it seems to mark a
decline in Goofy's interest in Clarabelle as later comics had a revival of
Horace and a return to their traditional pairing. I'm sure there were more
published stories in Italian, Danish and Portuguese, but I have not seen
those.

Jeff, why does WDTV Animation insist on perpetuating the relationship
between Goofy & Clarabelle? I know in some ways Clarabelle can easily be
painted to be a "goofy-ish" character also, but Clarabelle is Horace's
long-time fianc?. Sure they've never married, officially, but their
relationship is nearly as old as Mickey and Minnie's and definitely older
than Donald & Daisy's. To the best of my knowledge, most Disney fans of
Comics and Animation disapproved of Goofy's and Clarabelle's relationship,
preferring that she remains with Horace.

What is WDTVA's official profile for Horace concerning Clarabelle?

Traditionally Goofy has been the perpetual bachelor, but has, on occassion,
been romantically attached to Clarabelle, but the late great Floyd
Gottfredson actually created a girlfriend for Goofy named "Glory-Bee." Not
only is Glory-Bee in Goofy's same species (she's a dog), but she's pretty,
even if somewhat of an airhead. Personally, I'd like to see much more of
Mr. Gottfredson's legacy brought to the small screen. We've seen Chief
O'Hara and the Phantom Blot animated, at long last, in the MouseWorks and
House of Mouse formats, so why not bring other great characters created or
heavily used by Gottfredson into the cartoons such as Colonel Doberman,
Professors Ecks, Doublex & Triplex, Mickey's buddy Butch, Eega Beeva &
Pflip, Shamrock Bones, Captain Churchmouse, Detective Casey, Tanglefoot the
horse, Cousin Bertie Cow, Doctor Einmug, Eli Squinch, Ellsworth, Mickey's
nephews Morty & Ferdie Fieldmouse, Goofy's smart nephew Gilbert, Uncle
Mortimer, Percy & Patricia Pigg, Sylvester Shyster, and so many others?

Or even some of the Paul Murry characters like Dangerous Dan McBoo & Idjit,
Minnie's nieces Millie & Melody, Emil Eagle, and others?

For more information about some of these characters check out:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/hzlist.html

I really dread a continuance of the Clarabelle/Goofy relationship, though,
if that is as deep as WDTVA desires to go with the characters, I guess I
will live with it. I'm just glad we are getting something, anything in the
United States, that continues the tradition of Disney Comics & Animated
shorts right now.

Thank you,

Rich Bellacera
xephyr at jps.net

Disney Comics & Animation Message Board
House of Mouse/Mickey's MouseWorks
http://members3.boardhost.com/DisneyComics/

Don Rosa

>So my name sounds to them like "Sir Pinky".
What a laff riot :-)
I find that quite amusing (I myself think I have been saying your name the
right way for most of the time I have known about you, and I know it's
your name). Reminds me of that cartoon series with Pinky and the Brain...
It had quite a catchy themesong which will now haunt me for the rest of
the day :-)...

> Or is there something funny about the word "margarine" in
>Europe that is not translatable here? Is it like the "Sir Pinky" deal?
First, thanks to Stefan who enlightened this subject to us.
Don it is not supposed to be funny, not in my head at least. It is used as
the most dull place to work, for Donald. Imagine packing margarine all day
- saying this in all due respect to people here who might actually do so.
But it does sound as vary boring job, almost as boring as the one I has
myself last year.
So it's just an expression.

Do we know any other factories in Duckburg apart from the margarine
factory? In an easter story i once saw one which must have been Eggmont in
the original LOL!
I take it the Fluks store was in Don's Indonesia-story?

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist

> I take it the Fluks store was in Don's Indonesia-story?

Yes, and it still is. In all translations I've seen, so far. (I'm collecting
them, you know. 8-)

--Harry.

Don Rosa wrote:

> to European ears, where it is a tradition for cartoonists to use
> one-name pseudonyms, "Don Rosa" sounds quite phony and is
> sometimes written by fans as "Donrosa". They take "Don" to be the
> Spanish or Italian antiquated term of respect, and "Rosa" means
> "pink" in many languages. So my name sounds to them like "Sir
> Pinky".

I agree that for us Europeans "Don Rosa" sounds like famous
theatre or opera characters like "Don Giovanni" or "Don Carlos",
but this doesn't explain at all why someone (European or not)
would write your name as one word (no-one would write
"Doncarlos" either). When I read Iron Man as a child I got
acquainted with the artist called Don Heck. Nowadays Don DeLillo
is an American writer, who is well known in Europe, too. So what's
so special about the first name "Don"?.

By the way, have you heard about the Portuguese singer Dona
Rosa? She sings the "Fado", typical Portuguese songs full of
melancholy. But it's getting way too off-topic now... :-)

-Hans-

[I'm going to break the rule once again that mails on DCML should be about
Disney comics...]

Chuck:

> Chuck Munson
> Fairfax VA 22030 USA (The US Postal Service also
> requests that we use no punctuation in our addresses-
> no periods, commas, etc.-because it will help them
> supposedly move the mail faster - RIGHT!)

I can't speak for the USA mail service, but I am currently working on a
computer program for the Dutch mail service. It automatically interprets
hand-written addresses on envelopes. In our program, periods and commas are
no problem; they are small enough to eliminate. But slashes (/),
underlining, and all other kinds of extra stuff *can* be a problem in
automatic recognition. And if the computer program cannot recognise the
address, it has to be done by hand. This may indeed slow down delivery.
RIGHT!

--Harry.

At 11:38 09.05.01 +0200, Marco Barlotti wrote:
>page 33 is missing (you see nothing instead)
Hmm? "Lost in the Andes" has only got 32 pages.
Halsten

HALSTEN + DANIËL + HARRY:

> > Or did the Scandanivian countries have different gods at that time,
> > meaning that the Norse gods really are gods from only the ancient
> > culture of Norway?

We've always had and still have the very same god(s) in Scandinavia. The
old ones had names like Thor, Odin, Freja etc. and they were all
equivalent to ancient Roman and Greek gods in the sense that they each
had their own "working area"; ruling, transportation, love, you name
it. Only the recent god (he who goes by many names and doesn't like
competitors) seems to be able to take care of everything.

I feel tempted to make a comparison between mythological gods and comic
characters: None of them do actually exist, you won't meet them on the
street for example. They physically look slightly different from normal
people although they have more or less the same characteristics. They
live in a city/place we are unable to visit. They are immortal.

The observant reader may of course object to this, since our ducks and
mice don't "rule" (and "play" with) the human beings as such, still we
have this mailing list, don't we, where we discuss legends, sagas,
rumours and myths. Perhaps this little mailing list is one example of a
modern electronic church (or rather a temple) where people meet for
debates because they have one thing in common.

Just a wild thought... :-)

Søren