Hiiiiii!
Thank you, Rob, for the scans (don't worry, other DCMailians... I'll show
that as soon as possible in my site!!!)
I think the tree by Strobl is not a real family tree. It just shows the
members of the family who are ALIVE , and each branch symbolises a different
familyname: the branch with Scrooge is the McDucks, the one with Donald and
HDL is the Ducks (Humperdink's side), the one with 2-gun is the Ducks
(Humperdink's first brother's side), the one with Daisy is the Ducks
(Humperdinks' third brother's side), the one with Gyro is the Gearlooses (I
won't say
that it is the same than Donald's one)... so Blackduck must be a Gander.
The branch with a "?" means, to me, the following thing: one of Humperdink's
brother made a travel and never came back, so they dunno if he is alive, and
if he had children. He has been lost in a lost valley, with his wife, his
son and his son's girlfriend, and his son had the cave Duck... then, they
all died, probably eaten by a dinosaur, except the egg...
About Gyro, I have ever thought to put him in the Duck Family (he looks a
lot like Gretchen Grebe, doesn't he?), but I was hesitating, because I don't
want to invent too much facts ( as when I put Pluckahontas, who is (c)me ,
in my tree...), so I haven't done so.
Now, the picture will take more place (when will it stop???)
I will soon add those characters: Gyro Gearloose, (Li'l Helper?), Newton,
Fulton, and Ratchet Gearloose Gyro's Mother (in a game in a Picsou
Magasine)...
I will also add Ciril McDuck, another Scrooge's brother, seen i the Italian
family tree
I think that Grandpa from "No Hunting" is Cornelius Coot
I have a question: is Titus McDuck, also from my Italian tree, said to be
Scrooge's grandpa in the Tony Strobl's story, or could he be his grandpa?
In this case, I could make him Dingus' father, and make Potcrack being his
brother...
Author
Topic: 200105
(361 messages)
Gilles MAURICE
The Ducks' Family Tree
Message 286 -
2001-05-24 at 17:25:24
Sue And Gary Leach
DCML digest, Vol 1 #543 - 12 msgs
Message 287 -
2001-05-24 at 20:59:32
Michael Naiman wrote:
IF Gemstone/Diamond/Geppi and Disney do come to an agreement,
AND given the new agreement between Marvel and Diamond to distribute
trade paperbacks to bookstores...is it any stretch of the imagination
that we might see even more reprints/repackaging of our Barks/Rosa
favorites in tradepaperback form in a bookstore in your community?
I'd have to say that this is, in fact, a mighty huge stretch. Putting Disney
comics material into trade paperback form would involve an entirely new set
of licensing negotiations with Disney. Also, trade paperbacks are a much
larger market space, and the license would have to accommodate other
licensed participants who, even though they don't handle comics material as
such, would see Diamond's entry as, at the very least, intrusive. Disney
pays very close attention to this sort of thing these days, which is another
reason negotiations now seem to take forever.
I'm not trying to dampen anyone's enthusiasm, but it's been a monumental
struggle as it is for Diamond to get a comics license. I just think we might
want to let 'em nail that down before we start raising our expectations.
Gary
IF Gemstone/Diamond/Geppi and Disney do come to an agreement,
AND given the new agreement between Marvel and Diamond to distribute
trade paperbacks to bookstores...is it any stretch of the imagination
that we might see even more reprints/repackaging of our Barks/Rosa
favorites in tradepaperback form in a bookstore in your community?
I'd have to say that this is, in fact, a mighty huge stretch. Putting Disney
comics material into trade paperback form would involve an entirely new set
of licensing negotiations with Disney. Also, trade paperbacks are a much
larger market space, and the license would have to accommodate other
licensed participants who, even though they don't handle comics material as
such, would see Diamond's entry as, at the very least, intrusive. Disney
pays very close attention to this sort of thing these days, which is another
reason negotiations now seem to take forever.
I'm not trying to dampen anyone's enthusiasm, but it's been a monumental
struggle as it is for Diamond to get a comics license. I just think we might
want to let 'em nail that down before we start raising our expectations.
Gary
M. Mitchell Marmel
KR298.00 = US$32.00 was: Don Rosa Interview
Message 288 -
2001-05-24 at 21:12:40
At 11:22 AM -0700 5/23/01, F. A. Elliott wrote:
>As for the Norwegian "Pertwillaby" book, I really
>would like to own a copy, but, again, I really can't
>afford to spend $298.00 for it. I cringed when I heard
>someone on the, since having the book, threw out his
>old photocopies. I would've gladly paid for them.
That's 298 Norwegian kroner, or $32.00 US, if I read the site correctly...
-MMM-
>As for the Norwegian "Pertwillaby" book, I really
>would like to own a copy, but, again, I really can't
>afford to spend $298.00 for it. I cringed when I heard
>someone on the, since having the book, threw out his
>old photocopies. I would've gladly paid for them.
That's 298 Norwegian kroner, or $32.00 US, if I read the site correctly...
-MMM-
Francesco Spreafico
Curious panels in Cibola
Message 289 -
2001-05-24 at 22:36:06
Hello!
The Seven Cities of Cibola have always been one of my favs, but there is
a point that I've always found quite... strange! I thought it was
becasue I was reading a translation, but today I finally read the
original one, and the strange feeling remain.
At page 9 of the story, the last three panels:
First panel: We se a vase falling apart from a nephew's hands. It's
filled with jewels, but, in the panel Scrooge doesn't seem impressed
(actually his face there doesn't even seem Barksian);
Second panel: all the ducks gather around the jewels ad Donald states
they're jewels;
Third panel: Scrooge jumps over the jewels greedily.
What I've always found strange in this is that Scrooge doesn't "jump"
right away! It's really odd! I understand that maybe he doesn't jump in
the first panel, because of contemporaneity... but there is no reason
for him not to get all exited in the second panel... it's odd indeed.
May be there some explaination for this strange behaviour?
--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo
The Seven Cities of Cibola have always been one of my favs, but there is
a point that I've always found quite... strange! I thought it was
becasue I was reading a translation, but today I finally read the
original one, and the strange feeling remain.
At page 9 of the story, the last three panels:
First panel: We se a vase falling apart from a nephew's hands. It's
filled with jewels, but, in the panel Scrooge doesn't seem impressed
(actually his face there doesn't even seem Barksian);
Second panel: all the ducks gather around the jewels ad Donald states
they're jewels;
Third panel: Scrooge jumps over the jewels greedily.
What I've always found strange in this is that Scrooge doesn't "jump"
right away! It's really odd! I understand that maybe he doesn't jump in
the first panel, because of contemporaneity... but there is no reason
for him not to get all exited in the second panel... it's odd indeed.
May be there some explaination for this strange behaviour?
--
Sprea
http://digilander.iol.it/sgrizzo
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Rich Morrissery (1954-2001)
Message 290 -
2001-05-25 at 15:34:36
My condolences to Rich Morrissery's family and friends.
I will miss his contributions on the mailing list.
--- Daniel
I will miss his contributions on the mailing list.
--- Daniel
Nils Lid Hjort
Re Pertwillaby Papers & Captain Kentucky hc books
Message 291 -
2001-05-25 at 15:43:47
I'm skimming through the last weeks of DCML digests,
and discover
<<As for the Norwegian "Pertwillaby" book, I really
would like to own a copy, but, again, I really can't
afford to spend $298.00 for it. I cringed when I heard
someone on the, since having the book, threw out his
old photocopies. I would've gladly paid for them.>>
in F.A. Elliott's (otherwise) enlightening message.
Yes, $298 per book is a sum worthy of a good amount
of cringing on anyone's salary. However, the price
per book is Norwegian Kroner 298, or about USD 30.
Check
www.gazette.no/donrosa/index.htm
Apparently, there will be a story on the publication
of these "world editions" in the internet magazine
"Suite 101", where their comics editor is in touch
with me (qua editor of the two books & host for Don R
during the launch week in Oslo some two months ago).
I'll give more information about this later.
There will also be a story about the publication
of these books in the Norwegian comics journal/forum
"Tegn", which has gone netty (and is ceasing to exist
in cellulose form, right?): www.tegn.no . I understand
there will be an interview with Christopher Hjort at the
Gazette firm about the process leading to the publication
of the two world-wide Don Rosa books in the city of Oslo,
Norway. Christopher Hjort is otherwise very slightly
world famous in the appropriate fan segments thanks to
http://www.rocknrollresearchpress.com/jeffsbook.html .
Nils Lid Hjort
and discover
<<As for the Norwegian "Pertwillaby" book, I really
would like to own a copy, but, again, I really can't
afford to spend $298.00 for it. I cringed when I heard
someone on the, since having the book, threw out his
old photocopies. I would've gladly paid for them.>>
in F.A. Elliott's (otherwise) enlightening message.
Yes, $298 per book is a sum worthy of a good amount
of cringing on anyone's salary. However, the price
per book is Norwegian Kroner 298, or about USD 30.
Check
www.gazette.no/donrosa/index.htm
Apparently, there will be a story on the publication
of these "world editions" in the internet magazine
"Suite 101", where their comics editor is in touch
with me (qua editor of the two books & host for Don R
during the launch week in Oslo some two months ago).
I'll give more information about this later.
There will also be a story about the publication
of these books in the Norwegian comics journal/forum
"Tegn", which has gone netty (and is ceasing to exist
in cellulose form, right?): www.tegn.no . I understand
there will be an interview with Christopher Hjort at the
Gazette firm about the process leading to the publication
of the two world-wide Don Rosa books in the city of Oslo,
Norway. Christopher Hjort is otherwise very slightly
world famous in the appropriate fan segments thanks to
http://www.rocknrollresearchpress.com/jeffsbook.html .
Nils Lid Hjort
Heike Und Sven
Money Bin Blueprints
Message 292 -
2001-05-25 at 16:09:29
Hi,
last Tuesday Don Rosa gave us some information on his new Money Bin story
and on the corresponding blueprints by Dan Shane and himself:
> I did not offer to do a version for Iceland since I've seen their editions
> and I knew how little care goes into their presentation -- my fervent hope
> is that they don't use the story in Iceland at all, or if they do, I pray
> they leave OUT the blueprints (the story is purposely designed such that a
> publisher can omit those pages if they wish).
> And I've been told that Germany will do just that. They were not interested
> in the blueprints.
It's a shame to hear that the German publisher will proceed that way. I would
have loved to see these blueprints and I am sure I am not the only one. It is
such a great project! I really cannot understand this decision.
Is there a chance to see these blueprints anyway? Maybe Dan Shane could upload
the original English version on his brilliant website. Unfortunately, I am not
able to understand any of the Scandinavian languages, in which the blueprints
will be published. No harm would be done with respect to sales numbers by such
an upload. On the contrary: Everybody would want to read the corresponding
story.
I keep my fingers crossed
Sven
last Tuesday Don Rosa gave us some information on his new Money Bin story
and on the corresponding blueprints by Dan Shane and himself:
> I did not offer to do a version for Iceland since I've seen their editions
> and I knew how little care goes into their presentation -- my fervent hope
> is that they don't use the story in Iceland at all, or if they do, I pray
> they leave OUT the blueprints (the story is purposely designed such that a
> publisher can omit those pages if they wish).
> And I've been told that Germany will do just that. They were not interested
> in the blueprints.
It's a shame to hear that the German publisher will proceed that way. I would
have loved to see these blueprints and I am sure I am not the only one. It is
such a great project! I really cannot understand this decision.
Is there a chance to see these blueprints anyway? Maybe Dan Shane could upload
the original English version on his brilliant website. Unfortunately, I am not
able to understand any of the Scandinavian languages, in which the blueprints
will be published. No harm would be done with respect to sales numbers by such
an upload. On the contrary: Everybody would want to read the corresponding
story.
I keep my fingers crossed
Sven
Norman
The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark
Message 293 -
2001-05-25 at 18:25:36
Hi!
In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark", on page
6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to his two running longhorns as "Michael
Muhmachers", in reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael Schumacher.
I just can´t think Don wrote this in the original version. Can anyone
tell me the english text of that panel?
Norman
In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark", on page
6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to his two running longhorns as "Michael
Muhmachers", in reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael Schumacher.
I just can´t think Don wrote this in the original version. Can anyone
tell me the english text of that panel?
Norman
Norman
The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark
Message 294 -
2001-05-25 at 18:25:47
Hi!
In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark", on page
6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to his two running longhorns as "Michael
Muhmachers", in reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael Schumacher.
I just can´t think Don wrote this in the original version. Can anyone
tell me the english text of that panel?
Norman
In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark", on page
6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to his two running longhorns as "Michael
Muhmachers", in reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael Schumacher.
I just can´t think Don wrote this in the original version. Can anyone
tell me the english text of that panel?
Norman
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
MIKY MAOUS
Message 295 -
2001-05-25 at 18:49:38
Fellow Quackeroos:
Here're the contents of last week's MIKY MAOUS:
MIKY MAOUS #1818, May 18, 2001
a) Mickey Mouse in: "Il condor dell' Illampu", from "Topolino" #249, 1960
(37
pages). Script: Ennio Missaglia; Art: Giovan Battista Carpi.
b) "Nocciola agente 'X-Spray'", from "Topolino" #2208, 1998 (16 pages).
Script: Alberto Savini; Art: Lorenzo Chiavini.
c) "Magico Pippo: L' invasione", from "Topolino" #2218, 1998 (12 pages).
Script: Bruno Concina; Art: Paolo Campinoti.
''til next week,
Archontis
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Assistant Academic Dean & Associate Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki, GREECE
tel.: +30 31 398 228
Here're the contents of last week's MIKY MAOUS:
MIKY MAOUS #1818, May 18, 2001
a) Mickey Mouse in: "Il condor dell' Illampu", from "Topolino" #249, 1960
(37
pages). Script: Ennio Missaglia; Art: Giovan Battista Carpi.
b) "Nocciola agente 'X-Spray'", from "Topolino" #2208, 1998 (16 pages).
Script: Alberto Savini; Art: Lorenzo Chiavini.
c) "Magico Pippo: L' invasione", from "Topolino" #2218, 1998 (12 pages).
Script: Bruno Concina; Art: Paolo Campinoti.
''til next week,
Archontis
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Associate Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki, GREECE
tel.: +30 31 398 228
Apostolis Trikourakis
The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark
Message 296 -
2001-05-25 at 19:48:32
Hi all
Norman wrote:
> In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the
> Cutty Sark", on page 6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to >
his two running longhorns as "Michael Muhmachers", in
> reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael
Schumacher.
> I just can´t think Don wrote this in the >
original version. Can anyone tell me the english text
> of that panel?
Well, according to the Greek edition of the story,
which BTW came out in Komix #156 today, there is no
such a reference about Schumacher. The Greek text says
"You're faster than Texas' twisters, you little
longhorns".
Is it a reference that the German translator put
there? Is it a trick that Magica done to revenge
Scrooge? Don will probably know the answer :-)
Best Wishes
=====
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece
E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage
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Norman wrote:
> In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the
> Cutty Sark", on page 6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to >
his two running longhorns as "Michael Muhmachers", in
> reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael
Schumacher.
> I just can´t think Don wrote this in the >
original version. Can anyone tell me the english text
> of that panel?
Well, according to the Greek edition of the story,
which BTW came out in Komix #156 today, there is no
such a reference about Schumacher. The Greek text says
"You're faster than Texas' twisters, you little
longhorns".
Is it a reference that the German translator put
there? Is it a trick that Magica done to revenge
Scrooge? Don will probably know the answer :-)
Best Wishes
=====
Apostolis Trikourakis, Athens, Greece
E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage
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Gilles MAURICE
Col ; strobl's tree
Message 297 -
2001-05-25 at 19:57:17
at http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/strobltree.html , you can
find Tony Strobl's tree.
You'll have to wait for the cave duck !
I'm adding it in my tree, and I am creating the mouse tree at the same time.
I think everything will be ready in two weeks !!!
Gilles
find Tony Strobl's tree.
You'll have to wait for the cave duck !
I'm adding it in my tree, and I am creating the mouse tree at the same time.
I think everything will be ready in two weeks !!!
Gilles
Halvor Sandven
Beagle numbers
Message 298 -
2001-05-26 at 00:31:01
>===== Original Message From "Fluks, H.W." =====
>I think it's simple: two Beagle Boys carry the *same* number, and no-one
>ever noticed!
>(Hm... this would be a nice subject for a story... 8-)
>
>
I may be mistaken, but in the panel where the Beagle Boys start climbing into
the vents, it looks like two of the boys have the same number, namely 176-716,
but then again, maybe my eyes are not keen enough...
I really loved this story, and I used a long time studying the blueprints.
Many nice details. One of my favourite is when one of the B-boys discovers
Scrooge's worry-room, and believes that he plays with toy-cars.
I also liked the cover very much. I think this must be the first time in many
years that no ducks are featured on the cover, if you don't count the symbolic
drawing of Scrooge on the bin. This was a nice change from the usual covers.
Halvor
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>I think it's simple: two Beagle Boys carry the *same* number, and no-one
>ever noticed!
>(Hm... this would be a nice subject for a story... 8-)
>
>
I may be mistaken, but in the panel where the Beagle Boys start climbing into
the vents, it looks like two of the boys have the same number, namely 176-716,
but then again, maybe my eyes are not keen enough...
I really loved this story, and I used a long time studying the blueprints.
Many nice details. One of my favourite is when one of the B-boys discovers
Scrooge's worry-room, and believes that he plays with toy-cars.
I also liked the cover very much. I think this must be the first time in many
years that no ducks are featured on the cover, if you don't count the symbolic
drawing of Scrooge on the bin. This was a nice change from the usual covers.
Halvor
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Dan Shane
Money Bin Blueprints
Message 299 -
2001-05-26 at 14:44:29
Heike und Sven wrote:
> Is there a chance to see these blueprints anyway? Maybe Dan Shane could
upload
> the original English version on his brilliant website. Unfortunately, I am
not
> able to understand any of the Scandinavian languages, in which the
blueprints
> will be published. No harm would be done with respect to sales numbers by
such
> an upload. On the contrary: Everybody would want to read the corresponding
> story.
And I reply:
Well, I was going to wait until all the European issues were published and
on the stands for a bit before posting the blueprints to the Scrooge Page,
and I still might. However, since they've already been spread across 2
pages in the Norwegian newspaper, VG, it's hard to feel quite as reserved
about showing the drawings.
Look for them in a few weeks, along with some explanatory text. It's about
time I added *something* to that site, anyway.
--
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
> Is there a chance to see these blueprints anyway? Maybe Dan Shane could
upload
> the original English version on his brilliant website. Unfortunately, I am
not
> able to understand any of the Scandinavian languages, in which the
blueprints
> will be published. No harm would be done with respect to sales numbers by
such
> an upload. On the contrary: Everybody would want to read the corresponding
> story.
And I reply:
Well, I was going to wait until all the European issues were published and
on the stands for a bit before posting the blueprints to the Scrooge Page,
and I still might. However, since they've already been spread across 2
pages in the Norwegian newspaper, VG, it's hard to feel quite as reserved
about showing the drawings.
Look for them in a few weeks, along with some explanatory text. It's about
time I added *something* to that site, anyway.
--
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
Don Rosa
DCML digest, Vol 1 #545 - 9 msgs
Message 300 -
2001-05-26 at 14:46:55
> From: Norman <nlt at gmx.de>
> In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark", on page
> 6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to his two running longhorns as "Michael
> Muhmachers", in reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael Schumacher.
> I just can't think Don wrote this in the original version. Can anyone
> tell me the english text of that panel?
Well, I'll be a @#$#%&!!!! And this story is taking place in 1883! They
told me that they cut that crap out and that my references were being
translated very accurately! Now see, most all readers of that story will
naturally assume *I* wrote something that stupid. (Yes, "texas Twisters"
were what I had in my script.)
> From: Halvor Sandven <Halvor_Sandven at no.mailandnews.com>
> I may be mistaken, but in the panel where the Beagle Boys start climbing
into
> the vents, it looks like two of the boys have the same number, namely
176-716,
> but then again, maybe my eyes are not keen enough...
Nope, you're not mistaken! I just looked at my copies from the original
art. I can't blame that one on a @$#%& translator! These things happen
like magic -- you wouldn't believe how careful I was all through that story
keeping track of those Beagle numbers, making sure that each Beagle in each
situation and doing or going here or there was *always* the correctly
numbered Beagle... and also that you never clearly see the number on the
Beagle that gets into the Precious Gem Level of the Bin. And here I made a
goof... surely penciled in the correct number then didn't read it right
when I inked.
I'll see if I can get it changed in the next edition to come out. Let's
see... that will be... Germany! Ah, well, I guess I'd better stop when I'm
slightly ahead.
> In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark", on page
> 6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to his two running longhorns as "Michael
> Muhmachers", in reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael Schumacher.
> I just can't think Don wrote this in the original version. Can anyone
> tell me the english text of that panel?
Well, I'll be a @#$#%&!!!! And this story is taking place in 1883! They
told me that they cut that crap out and that my references were being
translated very accurately! Now see, most all readers of that story will
naturally assume *I* wrote something that stupid. (Yes, "texas Twisters"
were what I had in my script.)
> From: Halvor Sandven <Halvor_Sandven at no.mailandnews.com>
> I may be mistaken, but in the panel where the Beagle Boys start climbing
into
> the vents, it looks like two of the boys have the same number, namely
176-716,
> but then again, maybe my eyes are not keen enough...
Nope, you're not mistaken! I just looked at my copies from the original
art. I can't blame that one on a @$#%& translator! These things happen
like magic -- you wouldn't believe how careful I was all through that story
keeping track of those Beagle numbers, making sure that each Beagle in each
situation and doing or going here or there was *always* the correctly
numbered Beagle... and also that you never clearly see the number on the
Beagle that gets into the Precious Gem Level of the Bin. And here I made a
goof... surely penciled in the correct number then didn't read it right
when I inked.
I'll see if I can get it changed in the next edition to come out. Let's
see... that will be... Germany! Ah, well, I guess I'd better stop when I'm
slightly ahead.