Hi
I just returned from Norway.
I hadn
t considered the Quack Street being a long street like Harry and Rob
write about. That is a very possible theory. Maybe the same street is
then Barks Boulevard in danish. Yes, the danish translator kind of made
the road up himself and used it 4 times or so. I find it a very nice
tribute to the one cartoonist the danish publisher owes everything.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Author
Topic: 200105
(361 messages)
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Re 543
Message 316 -
2001-05-28 at 13:09:16
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Cowboy Captain
Message 317 -
2001-05-28 at 13:39:34
NORMAN
>In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark", on
page
>6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to his two running longhorns as "Michael
>Muhmachers", in reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael
Schumacher.
>I just can´t think Don wrote this in the original version. Can
anyone
>tell me the english text of that panel?
The answer to this is already given. Of course Don wouldn't put such a
name there. That formula-1-driver wasn't even thought about back when
the story takes place. But it's a bit typical (If I'm to be mean,
especially from certain german stories). The fact that the MM is for
kids at a certain age, makes it so that such "funny" names are put in
the story. Sadly the same translation, and not one made more throughly
from the original is used in the albums, aimed at grown-ups.
This makes me wonder what the names of those two JW-leaders (supposed
to be Osborne and Taliaferro, and were so in US and Norway, at least)
actually were in the german version. I can conclude that they must have
been fun names.
I'm making a conclusion here that we have 3 kinds of translators
The one who is honest to the original, translating directly when it's
names of persons and places. (Norwegian one is a good example)
The one who makes his own references to history and names, not always
fitting into the time-shedule, but still being funny (The danish one is
a good example)
The one who makes most historical and namely references into fun names
for kids. Maybe he doesn't do so as much as earlier. (German one?) -
The JW jubilee, King Scrooge, and now the Cowboy Captain.
A question is: which one do you like best? I have a large possiblity to
compare the first with the second now. I don't have any of those I
mentioned as examples for the 3rd one...
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
>In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the Cutty Sark", on
page
>6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to his two running longhorns as "Michael
>Muhmachers", in reference to german Formula 1 pilot Michael
Schumacher.
>I just can´t think Don wrote this in the original version. Can
anyone
>tell me the english text of that panel?
The answer to this is already given. Of course Don wouldn't put such a
name there. That formula-1-driver wasn't even thought about back when
the story takes place. But it's a bit typical (If I'm to be mean,
especially from certain german stories). The fact that the MM is for
kids at a certain age, makes it so that such "funny" names are put in
the story. Sadly the same translation, and not one made more throughly
from the original is used in the albums, aimed at grown-ups.
This makes me wonder what the names of those two JW-leaders (supposed
to be Osborne and Taliaferro, and were so in US and Norway, at least)
actually were in the german version. I can conclude that they must have
been fun names.
I'm making a conclusion here that we have 3 kinds of translators
The one who is honest to the original, translating directly when it's
names of persons and places. (Norwegian one is a good example)
The one who makes his own references to history and names, not always
fitting into the time-shedule, but still being funny (The danish one is
a good example)
The one who makes most historical and namely references into fun names
for kids. Maybe he doesn't do so as much as earlier. (German one?) -
The JW jubilee, King Scrooge, and now the Cowboy Captain.
A question is: which one do you like best? I have a large possiblity to
compare the first with the second now. I don't have any of those I
mentioned as examples for the 3rd one...
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Anders Christian Sivebaek
VG
Message 318 -
2001-05-28 at 13:48:05
Dan
Did VG put the english version or the norwegian one of the blueprints
in the paper?
Aargh, maybe I have had a chance to buy that paper, as I've just been
there....
anyway I guess it's a norwegian sensation when the blueprints of the
bin are being shown.
The ducks are very popular there, as we know.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Did VG put the english version or the norwegian one of the blueprints
in the paper?
Aargh, maybe I have had a chance to buy that paper, as I've just been
there....
anyway I guess it's a norwegian sensation when the blueprints of the
bin are being shown.
The ducks are very popular there, as we know.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Luca Boschi
Fethry and Filo Filur
Message 319 -
2001-05-28 at 14:08:02
Hi, Olaf!
Very interesting your survey on "Filo Filur".
> So, the final question... Does "Filo Filur" exist in the Duckburg to believe
> in? (as explained earlier, the Duckburg *I* believe in contains neither
> Mickey or Fethry) My opinion is YES
It's the same for me, even if I never used him in any story I wrote. And,
obviously, Mickey DOES'N live in Duckburg. But... why not Fethry? In the
same, very long, olimpic story you quote, Fethry is involved, Sgrizzo too.
Brigitta McBridge and Filo, too. And in many, many stories by Scarpa,
Cavazzano and so on (one Vicar's too) Fethry is included.
I'd like to know your opinion about.
Ciao,
Luca
Very interesting your survey on "Filo Filur".
> So, the final question... Does "Filo Filur" exist in the Duckburg to believe
> in? (as explained earlier, the Duckburg *I* believe in contains neither
> Mickey or Fethry) My opinion is YES
It's the same for me, even if I never used him in any story I wrote. And,
obviously, Mickey DOES'N live in Duckburg. But... why not Fethry? In the
same, very long, olimpic story you quote, Fethry is involved, Sgrizzo too.
Brigitta McBridge and Filo, too. And in many, many stories by Scarpa,
Cavazzano and so on (one Vicar's too) Fethry is included.
I'd like to know your opinion about.
Ciao,
Luca
Don Rosa
DCML digest #548
Message 320 -
2001-05-28 at 16:20:26
> From: "Olaf Solstrand" <harryklein at hotmail.com>
> The story "last sled to Dawson" shows that the pickax was on the sled
with
> other memories from Scrooge's past. Yet, in Lo$ part 12, Donald finds the
> same pickax in the chest on Scrooge's store room! We KNOW that "Life of
> Scrooge part 12" (1947) happened long before "Last sled to Dawson"
(1954),
> so what's the explanation?
> One possible explanation is that this was two different pickaxes,
I know that would be hard to believe, but maybe that's the answer! TWO
different picks! It baffles science!!!
The pick you see in "Lo$" part 12 was in $crooge's steamer trunk, the one I
use as his "memory trunk" in the new "Lo$" chapters. He did not have that
trunk with him in the Yukon -- did you see it on his sled in "Last Sled to
Dawson" when he had *all* of his Klondike possessions with him? No -- he
must have left that big trunk somewhere else when he rushed to the Yukon --
you didn't see him carrying it when he hopped off the freighter from
Australia in chapter 8, eh? So, the pick he had used in Arizona and
Australia and Africa and other places that began with 'A' was the one in
the trunk. He regained his Yukon pick in "Last Sled to Dawson", so now he
probably has *two* picks in his memory trunk (which, as you'll see if I
manage to do these stories for as long as I hope I can, contains more items
than its physical dimensions allow, working on the same principle as the
information contained in the tiny Woodchuck Manual).
I don't dislike wrestling with friendly readers about the possibility of
errors in my continuity. It's actually FUN, for the same reason that my
attention to details is fun for me in the first place. And I sometimes
certainly do make whopper goofs, like that one that someone just spotted
where, as careful as I was being (!), I had the same prison number on two
Beagles in one panel in my new story! And other times it's just fun to try
to create an explanation for an oversight. When I wrote "Last Sled to
Dawson, I never knew what I would write years later in a "Life of $crooge"
series. It's fun for me to try to wrestle my own past stories into
submission in agreement with what I want to put into a new story for new
reasons.
But asking me about something like this pick which is so easily
explained -- I'm glad you at least suspected that there *might* be TWO
picks. Another matter that several readers have mentioned over the years
that they think is an error is the fact that I show $crooge's horse
Hortense walking off in a huff in "Lo$" chapter 4 thinking "I quit" or
such, but then I show "Hortense" back in later chapters. They ask "How can
this be?! It's an error!" And I say, hey, you're right!!! Unless.....
Hortense turned around and came back 5 minutes later. Impossible, but TRUE!
Stranger than fiction!
> The story "last sled to Dawson" shows that the pickax was on the sled
with
> other memories from Scrooge's past. Yet, in Lo$ part 12, Donald finds the
> same pickax in the chest on Scrooge's store room! We KNOW that "Life of
> Scrooge part 12" (1947) happened long before "Last sled to Dawson"
(1954),
> so what's the explanation?
> One possible explanation is that this was two different pickaxes,
I know that would be hard to believe, but maybe that's the answer! TWO
different picks! It baffles science!!!
The pick you see in "Lo$" part 12 was in $crooge's steamer trunk, the one I
use as his "memory trunk" in the new "Lo$" chapters. He did not have that
trunk with him in the Yukon -- did you see it on his sled in "Last Sled to
Dawson" when he had *all* of his Klondike possessions with him? No -- he
must have left that big trunk somewhere else when he rushed to the Yukon --
you didn't see him carrying it when he hopped off the freighter from
Australia in chapter 8, eh? So, the pick he had used in Arizona and
Australia and Africa and other places that began with 'A' was the one in
the trunk. He regained his Yukon pick in "Last Sled to Dawson", so now he
probably has *two* picks in his memory trunk (which, as you'll see if I
manage to do these stories for as long as I hope I can, contains more items
than its physical dimensions allow, working on the same principle as the
information contained in the tiny Woodchuck Manual).
I don't dislike wrestling with friendly readers about the possibility of
errors in my continuity. It's actually FUN, for the same reason that my
attention to details is fun for me in the first place. And I sometimes
certainly do make whopper goofs, like that one that someone just spotted
where, as careful as I was being (!), I had the same prison number on two
Beagles in one panel in my new story! And other times it's just fun to try
to create an explanation for an oversight. When I wrote "Last Sled to
Dawson, I never knew what I would write years later in a "Life of $crooge"
series. It's fun for me to try to wrestle my own past stories into
submission in agreement with what I want to put into a new story for new
reasons.
But asking me about something like this pick which is so easily
explained -- I'm glad you at least suspected that there *might* be TWO
picks. Another matter that several readers have mentioned over the years
that they think is an error is the fact that I show $crooge's horse
Hortense walking off in a huff in "Lo$" chapter 4 thinking "I quit" or
such, but then I show "Hortense" back in later chapters. They ask "How can
this be?! It's an error!" And I say, hey, you're right!!! Unless.....
Hortense turned around and came back 5 minutes later. Impossible, but TRUE!
Stranger than fiction!
Shelley Hanson/KlezmerAllThatJazz
Dan Shane -- link please
Message 321 -
2001-05-28 at 17:30:33
Dan,
Would you please post the link to your Scrooge page? Thanks.
Would you please post the link to your Scrooge page? Thanks.
Ole Reichstein Nielsen
Alive, almost well and back on-line
Message 322 -
2001-05-28 at 17:33:34
It's been a long and hard month, but I finally found the time
to register a phone number to my new address. Now I only need
the money to pay for it and time to read the 330 messages I've
just pulled out of the mailbox. More later, when I'm up to date.
-- Ole, up north in Hadsund
to register a phone number to my new address. Now I only need
the money to pay for it and time to read the 330 messages I've
just pulled out of the mailbox. More later, when I'm up to date.
-- Ole, up north in Hadsund
Rob Klein
WDC &S sales & Barks
Message 323 -
2001-05-28 at 20:25:36
Regarding Timo Ronkainen's questions about Walt Disney's Comics and Stories
(WDC & S) sales figures relating to Barks' work:
These are topics we have covered very thoroughly, previously on the this
list, - so, I am hoping that the members who provided the information were
watching when these questions came up yesterday. Then, we will be provided
accurate information. I believe Don Ault and David Gerstein are at least
two of the people who have knowledge of this information, but I am sure
there are several other list members that can provide it. I believe Mike
Barrier covered some of these questions in his book, based on his interview
with Chase Craig (Western Publishing Editor during the early 1950s).
I am only responding to the question (using my now poor middle-aged
memory), for the unlikely case none of the members with more substantial
and more accurate information respond.
I seem to remember that WDC & S was, indeed, the best selling comic book of
all time, and its peak years were the very end of the 1940s, and the first
few years of the 1950s. I believe the peak sales figures were the very
high 2 millions to the very low 3 millions. I am not quite sure of that
(so, please don't hold me to it). I believe we might find the actual
figures in print in Barrier's book, or in some magazine article from the
1970s or 1980s. I believe I was quoted a similar figure by Malcom Willits
and Don Ault on separate occaisions. Don Ault's recent interview of Chase
Craig (now over 90 years old), produced mainly general comments about
Western's policies, his own editorial work, and his and Western's relation
to Carl Barks. He did not remember much, if anything, regarding specific
incidents or situations.
I've seen reference to the fact that hundreds (if not thousands) of annual
subscribers to WDC& S wrote letters to Western Publishing in 1950,
threatening to cancel their subscriptions if the editors didn't again start
printing lead stories by the "Good Artist". This occured after Barks
started drawing so many longer stories to fill the new annual giant comics
and also expanded the number of regular Donald Duck issues to bi-monthly.
Western relented, and put Barks back on his old monthly schedule on the
10-pagers.
I don't believe I've ever seen a reference to the difference in sales
between months with and without Barks stories. I imagine the differences
were substantial by the END of 1950, but perhaps not as large as one might
guess. At that time, subscription sales formed a very significant
percentage of total sales. I also imagine that a reasonably high
percentage of the WDC newsstand purchasers would rather have had a Barks
story in the comic if they had the opportunity, but would still purchase
the comic even without, as they were Disney and funny animal fans.
As 1950 was 2 years BEFORE I purchase newsstand copies I cannot use my own
experience as an anecdotal example. But I CAN say that when I inherited
all the 1940s (and year 1950) Disney comics from my older cousins (with
whom I dwelt), I also accepted the 1950 NON-Barks comics (as I was also a
fan of the Mickey Mouse continuity stories and other features of the
magazine). This, despite the fact that my love of Barks was by far the
main reason I was attracted to that magazine. I helped my father in his
store, and was given 25 cents (Canadian) per week. In those days that
money would buy 2 and one half regular comic books, or one giant book. The
Canadian dollar was worth approximately 1.04 US in those days. I bought
only Disney comics (almost all) new, and an occaisional Warner Brothers, or
Walter Lantz or MGM used, for 5 cents or 3 for a dime. When we traveled to
USA (Chicago) or Holland to visit relatives, I would buy the local Disney
comics there (My parents would just give me the money), as I would be
missing my issues at home. The US issues were the same. I was almost as
glad to have those non-Barks issues - even though I am an EXTREME Barks
fan. I believe this was true of many of the kids at that time. I know
that there were, however, a significant amount of comic fans who had only
limited money to spend, and read ALL types of comics; who only bought
Disney comics among their EC and superhero comics, when the stories were of
EXCELLENT quality. They are the buyers who wouldn't have bought the 1950
WDC & S with non-Barks stories. I imagine there would have been a drop-off
in newsstand sales for those months (but the extent of that difference
wouId depend much upon the percentage of subscription to total sales. I
doubt that many subscribers gave up their subscriptions in time to affect
monthly sales during 1950 months which issued a non-Barks lead story.
I hope someone will come up with the actual figures.
Regarding Daniel's comments on the early-mid 1960s story advertising on the
covers:
I hope someone with accurate information on this subject will inform us.
It is too bad no one mentioned that to Don Ault before he interviewed Chase
Craig a few months ago. Even with his poor memory for specifics from 40-50
years ago, he MAY have remembered whether Barks or editorial staff wrote
those story trailers. Although a few of them seem to use "Barksian
Phraseology", I suspect that they were all written by editorial staff.
That was the general policy most of the time. It is too bad we didn't
think of this question to ask Carl, himself, before 1996 or so. Although
he became reticent to answer the same questions over and over in later
years; the answer to this question is straightforward, and should have been
something that he COULD have remembered, even after 35-40 years.
Rob Klein
(WDC & S) sales figures relating to Barks' work:
These are topics we have covered very thoroughly, previously on the this
list, - so, I am hoping that the members who provided the information were
watching when these questions came up yesterday. Then, we will be provided
accurate information. I believe Don Ault and David Gerstein are at least
two of the people who have knowledge of this information, but I am sure
there are several other list members that can provide it. I believe Mike
Barrier covered some of these questions in his book, based on his interview
with Chase Craig (Western Publishing Editor during the early 1950s).
I am only responding to the question (using my now poor middle-aged
memory), for the unlikely case none of the members with more substantial
and more accurate information respond.
I seem to remember that WDC & S was, indeed, the best selling comic book of
all time, and its peak years were the very end of the 1940s, and the first
few years of the 1950s. I believe the peak sales figures were the very
high 2 millions to the very low 3 millions. I am not quite sure of that
(so, please don't hold me to it). I believe we might find the actual
figures in print in Barrier's book, or in some magazine article from the
1970s or 1980s. I believe I was quoted a similar figure by Malcom Willits
and Don Ault on separate occaisions. Don Ault's recent interview of Chase
Craig (now over 90 years old), produced mainly general comments about
Western's policies, his own editorial work, and his and Western's relation
to Carl Barks. He did not remember much, if anything, regarding specific
incidents or situations.
I've seen reference to the fact that hundreds (if not thousands) of annual
subscribers to WDC& S wrote letters to Western Publishing in 1950,
threatening to cancel their subscriptions if the editors didn't again start
printing lead stories by the "Good Artist". This occured after Barks
started drawing so many longer stories to fill the new annual giant comics
and also expanded the number of regular Donald Duck issues to bi-monthly.
Western relented, and put Barks back on his old monthly schedule on the
10-pagers.
I don't believe I've ever seen a reference to the difference in sales
between months with and without Barks stories. I imagine the differences
were substantial by the END of 1950, but perhaps not as large as one might
guess. At that time, subscription sales formed a very significant
percentage of total sales. I also imagine that a reasonably high
percentage of the WDC newsstand purchasers would rather have had a Barks
story in the comic if they had the opportunity, but would still purchase
the comic even without, as they were Disney and funny animal fans.
As 1950 was 2 years BEFORE I purchase newsstand copies I cannot use my own
experience as an anecdotal example. But I CAN say that when I inherited
all the 1940s (and year 1950) Disney comics from my older cousins (with
whom I dwelt), I also accepted the 1950 NON-Barks comics (as I was also a
fan of the Mickey Mouse continuity stories and other features of the
magazine). This, despite the fact that my love of Barks was by far the
main reason I was attracted to that magazine. I helped my father in his
store, and was given 25 cents (Canadian) per week. In those days that
money would buy 2 and one half regular comic books, or one giant book. The
Canadian dollar was worth approximately 1.04 US in those days. I bought
only Disney comics (almost all) new, and an occaisional Warner Brothers, or
Walter Lantz or MGM used, for 5 cents or 3 for a dime. When we traveled to
USA (Chicago) or Holland to visit relatives, I would buy the local Disney
comics there (My parents would just give me the money), as I would be
missing my issues at home. The US issues were the same. I was almost as
glad to have those non-Barks issues - even though I am an EXTREME Barks
fan. I believe this was true of many of the kids at that time. I know
that there were, however, a significant amount of comic fans who had only
limited money to spend, and read ALL types of comics; who only bought
Disney comics among their EC and superhero comics, when the stories were of
EXCELLENT quality. They are the buyers who wouldn't have bought the 1950
WDC & S with non-Barks stories. I imagine there would have been a drop-off
in newsstand sales for those months (but the extent of that difference
wouId depend much upon the percentage of subscription to total sales. I
doubt that many subscribers gave up their subscriptions in time to affect
monthly sales during 1950 months which issued a non-Barks lead story.
I hope someone will come up with the actual figures.
Regarding Daniel's comments on the early-mid 1960s story advertising on the
covers:
I hope someone with accurate information on this subject will inform us.
It is too bad no one mentioned that to Don Ault before he interviewed Chase
Craig a few months ago. Even with his poor memory for specifics from 40-50
years ago, he MAY have remembered whether Barks or editorial staff wrote
those story trailers. Although a few of them seem to use "Barksian
Phraseology", I suspect that they were all written by editorial staff.
That was the general policy most of the time. It is too bad we didn't
think of this question to ask Carl, himself, before 1996 or so. Although
he became reticent to answer the same questions over and over in later
years; the answer to this question is straightforward, and should have been
something that he COULD have remembered, even after 35-40 years.
Rob Klein
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Barks-issues and the word blueprint
Message 324 -
2001-05-28 at 21:35:58
Luca is asking about the Barks-tribute stories
The one in issue 12 was D 2000-144 with Gyro, made by William van Horn.
Title is something like Nothing new under the sun. Story is 6 pages.
Issue 17 carries D 2000-188 with Gladstone, made by Ferioli. Title is
portrait of a goose. The great story is 12 pages and has lots of
Barks-references.
Codes are given for the one in issue 21, it's 17 pages and by Don Rosa.
I'm very happy to find that the norwegian paper VG (tabloid or what
would you call it?) printed an article with the blueprints of the Bin.
Why is it call blueprints btw? They are of course blue in the story,
but the normal drawings of houses that I've seen, eg. my fathers and
the cantina going to be to build in our school, are white with black
lines. any special reason for them to be blue?
The colorist btw, made them be blue, also in the rest of the comic. The
golden fleece was white though, and the jade-elephant tooth was grey.
But I'm getting used to it...
AC
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
The one in issue 12 was D 2000-144 with Gyro, made by William van Horn.
Title is something like Nothing new under the sun. Story is 6 pages.
Issue 17 carries D 2000-188 with Gladstone, made by Ferioli. Title is
portrait of a goose. The great story is 12 pages and has lots of
Barks-references.
Codes are given for the one in issue 21, it's 17 pages and by Don Rosa.
I'm very happy to find that the norwegian paper VG (tabloid or what
would you call it?) printed an article with the blueprints of the Bin.
Why is it call blueprints btw? They are of course blue in the story,
but the normal drawings of houses that I've seen, eg. my fathers and
the cantina going to be to build in our school, are white with black
lines. any special reason for them to be blue?
The colorist btw, made them be blue, also in the rest of the comic. The
golden fleece was white though, and the jade-elephant tooth was grey.
But I'm getting used to it...
AC
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Filo
Message 325 -
2001-05-28 at 22:13:49
The norwegian pocket books have stories with a Filo-charecter.
It's Filo Sganga, invented by Scarpa and truely Brigitta MacBridge's
companion.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
It's Filo Sganga, invented by Scarpa and truely Brigitta MacBridge's
companion.
A. C. Sivebaek
acsive at mail.mira.dk
Olaf Solstrand
Fethry / Goggen Skrueløs / Blueprints / Rosa/Barks relation / last sled to Dawso
Message 326 -
2001-05-29 at 11:34:24
----- FETHRY -----
I don't believe in the existance of Fethry Duck. But what IS Fethry Duck? He
is a character. Made up for fun. He doesn't have a personality, a privacy...
nothing! He appears only when the writer needs a funny character who messes
everything up. I don't believe that Donald has such a relative. Not at all.
MAYBE a character like this exists. MAYBE his name is Fethry. And MAYBE he
even lives in Duckburg. But it seems odd to me that he is Donald's cousin.
I'd rather believe that he is a small man-on-the-street. But the reason that
I don't believe in him is that he SO obviously is a made-up character, as he
ALWAYS does silly things that screws up the situation. Sorry, but there's no
room for Fethry Duck in Olaf Solstrand's Duck Family Tree.
Anyhow, of course there is a possibility that if he lives somewhere in
Duckburg (in that case he is much less clumsy than the Fethry we know). Duck
is a very normal name in Duckburg, and of course there may be a Fethry Duck
out there somewhere. I don't deny that.
----- GOGGEN SKRUELØS -----
This mail is mainly for you Norwegians out there. When Gyro Gearloose first
jumped into "Gladstone's terrible secret" on his pogo stick, Gladstone in
the Norwegian translation adressed him as "Goggen Skrueløs". But in all
Gyro-stories I've read after that, his name have been "Petter Smart". Does
anyone of you know why they chose to change this? "Goggen Skrueløs" is a
good name for "Gyro Gearloose", yet, "Petter Smart" has become a very
popular word of the Norwegian language. When someone does something genius,
they're often called a "Petter Smart". But since that word does not sound a
bit like "Gyro Gearloose", and the translation "Goggen Skrueløs" already
existed, what on earth made them change it to "Petter Smart"?
I prefer to call him Goggen Skrueløs.
----- BLUEPRINTS -----
The blueprints shown in VG was in Norwegian (except for one word, actually -
one place, the word "guard post" was used instead of "vaktpost"). They was
shown with black pen on white paper.
----- ROSA/BARKS RELATION -----
In the so-often-mentioned VG article, Don Rosa is adressed as "the pupil of
Carl Barks" (maybe that was a crappy translation). Is this true?
----- LAST SLED TO DAWSON -----
In the story "Last sled to Dawson", Scrooge says "This reminds me of the
time I was controlling dams in New Zealand". Is this a Barks referance, or
could that be a story yet-to-be-written?
I guess my story is somewhere in Denmark now... and I'm so excited that I
might explode anytime now...
-olaf-
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I don't believe in the existance of Fethry Duck. But what IS Fethry Duck? He
is a character. Made up for fun. He doesn't have a personality, a privacy...
nothing! He appears only when the writer needs a funny character who messes
everything up. I don't believe that Donald has such a relative. Not at all.
MAYBE a character like this exists. MAYBE his name is Fethry. And MAYBE he
even lives in Duckburg. But it seems odd to me that he is Donald's cousin.
I'd rather believe that he is a small man-on-the-street. But the reason that
I don't believe in him is that he SO obviously is a made-up character, as he
ALWAYS does silly things that screws up the situation. Sorry, but there's no
room for Fethry Duck in Olaf Solstrand's Duck Family Tree.
Anyhow, of course there is a possibility that if he lives somewhere in
Duckburg (in that case he is much less clumsy than the Fethry we know). Duck
is a very normal name in Duckburg, and of course there may be a Fethry Duck
out there somewhere. I don't deny that.
----- GOGGEN SKRUELØS -----
This mail is mainly for you Norwegians out there. When Gyro Gearloose first
jumped into "Gladstone's terrible secret" on his pogo stick, Gladstone in
the Norwegian translation adressed him as "Goggen Skrueløs". But in all
Gyro-stories I've read after that, his name have been "Petter Smart". Does
anyone of you know why they chose to change this? "Goggen Skrueløs" is a
good name for "Gyro Gearloose", yet, "Petter Smart" has become a very
popular word of the Norwegian language. When someone does something genius,
they're often called a "Petter Smart". But since that word does not sound a
bit like "Gyro Gearloose", and the translation "Goggen Skrueløs" already
existed, what on earth made them change it to "Petter Smart"?
I prefer to call him Goggen Skrueløs.
----- BLUEPRINTS -----
The blueprints shown in VG was in Norwegian (except for one word, actually -
one place, the word "guard post" was used instead of "vaktpost"). They was
shown with black pen on white paper.
----- ROSA/BARKS RELATION -----
In the so-often-mentioned VG article, Don Rosa is adressed as "the pupil of
Carl Barks" (maybe that was a crappy translation). Is this true?
----- LAST SLED TO DAWSON -----
In the story "Last sled to Dawson", Scrooge says "This reminds me of the
time I was controlling dams in New Zealand". Is this a Barks referance, or
could that be a story yet-to-be-written?
I guess my story is somewhere in Denmark now... and I'm so excited that I
might explode anytime now...
-olaf-
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Olaf Solstrand
Fethry / Goggen Skrueløs / Blueprints / Rosa/Barks relation / last sled to Dawso
Message 327 -
2001-05-29 at 11:35:13
----- FETHRY -----
I don't believe in the existance of Fethry Duck. But what IS Fethry Duck? He
is a character. Made up for fun. He doesn't have a personality, a privacy...
nothing! He appears only when the writer needs a funny character who messes
everything up. I don't believe that Donald has such a relative. Not at all.
MAYBE a character like this exists. MAYBE his name is Fethry. And MAYBE he
even lives in Duckburg. But it seems odd to me that he is Donald's cousin.
I'd rather believe that he is a small man-on-the-street. But the reason that
I don't believe in him is that he SO obviously is a made-up character, as he
ALWAYS does silly things that screws up the situation. Sorry, but there's no
room for Fethry Duck in Olaf Solstrand's Duck Family Tree.
Anyhow, of course there is a possibility that if he lives somewhere in
Duckburg (in that case he is much less clumsy than the Fethry we know). Duck
is a very normal name in Duckburg, and of course there may be a Fethry Duck
out there somewhere. I don't deny that.
----- GOGGEN SKRUELØS -----
This mail is mainly for you Norwegians out there. When Gyro Gearloose first
jumped into "Gladstone's terrible secret" on his pogo stick, Gladstone in
the Norwegian translation adressed him as "Goggen Skrueløs". But in all
Gyro-stories I've read after that, his name have been "Petter Smart". Does
anyone of you know why they chose to change this? "Goggen Skrueløs" is a
good name for "Gyro Gearloose", yet, "Petter Smart" has become a very
popular word of the Norwegian language. When someone does something genius,
they're often called a "Petter Smart". But since that word does not sound a
bit like "Gyro Gearloose", and the translation "Goggen Skrueløs" already
existed, what on earth made them change it to "Petter Smart"?
I prefer to call him Goggen Skrueløs.
----- BLUEPRINTS -----
The blueprints shown in VG was in Norwegian (except for one word, actually -
one place, the word "guard post" was used instead of "vaktpost"). They was
shown with black pen on white paper.
----- ROSA/BARKS RELATION -----
In the so-often-mentioned VG article, Don Rosa is adressed as "the pupil of
Carl Barks" (maybe that was a crappy translation). Is this true?
----- LAST SLED TO DAWSON -----
In the story "Last sled to Dawson", Scrooge says "This reminds me of the
time I was controlling dams in New Zealand". Is this a Barks referance, or
could that be a story yet-to-be-written?
I guess my story is somewhere in Denmark now... and I'm so excited that I
might explode anytime now...
-olaf-
_________________________________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
I don't believe in the existance of Fethry Duck. But what IS Fethry Duck? He
is a character. Made up for fun. He doesn't have a personality, a privacy...
nothing! He appears only when the writer needs a funny character who messes
everything up. I don't believe that Donald has such a relative. Not at all.
MAYBE a character like this exists. MAYBE his name is Fethry. And MAYBE he
even lives in Duckburg. But it seems odd to me that he is Donald's cousin.
I'd rather believe that he is a small man-on-the-street. But the reason that
I don't believe in him is that he SO obviously is a made-up character, as he
ALWAYS does silly things that screws up the situation. Sorry, but there's no
room for Fethry Duck in Olaf Solstrand's Duck Family Tree.
Anyhow, of course there is a possibility that if he lives somewhere in
Duckburg (in that case he is much less clumsy than the Fethry we know). Duck
is a very normal name in Duckburg, and of course there may be a Fethry Duck
out there somewhere. I don't deny that.
----- GOGGEN SKRUELØS -----
This mail is mainly for you Norwegians out there. When Gyro Gearloose first
jumped into "Gladstone's terrible secret" on his pogo stick, Gladstone in
the Norwegian translation adressed him as "Goggen Skrueløs". But in all
Gyro-stories I've read after that, his name have been "Petter Smart". Does
anyone of you know why they chose to change this? "Goggen Skrueløs" is a
good name for "Gyro Gearloose", yet, "Petter Smart" has become a very
popular word of the Norwegian language. When someone does something genius,
they're often called a "Petter Smart". But since that word does not sound a
bit like "Gyro Gearloose", and the translation "Goggen Skrueløs" already
existed, what on earth made them change it to "Petter Smart"?
I prefer to call him Goggen Skrueløs.
----- BLUEPRINTS -----
The blueprints shown in VG was in Norwegian (except for one word, actually -
one place, the word "guard post" was used instead of "vaktpost"). They was
shown with black pen on white paper.
----- ROSA/BARKS RELATION -----
In the so-often-mentioned VG article, Don Rosa is adressed as "the pupil of
Carl Barks" (maybe that was a crappy translation). Is this true?
----- LAST SLED TO DAWSON -----
In the story "Last sled to Dawson", Scrooge says "This reminds me of the
time I was controlling dams in New Zealand". Is this a Barks referance, or
could that be a story yet-to-be-written?
I guess my story is somewhere in Denmark now... and I'm so excited that I
might explode anytime now...
-olaf-
_________________________________________________________________________
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JTorci3511
Chase Craig
Message 328 -
2001-05-29 at 15:12:12
Rob Klein and Everyone:
I particularly enjoyed Rob's comments in # 549, most notably:
<< "Don Ault's recent interview of Chase Craig (now over 90 years old),
produced mainly general comments about Western's policies, his own editorial
work, and his and Western's relation to Carl Barks. He did not remember
much, if anything, regarding specific incidents or situations." >>
Just two days earlier, I had written some comments on the classic comic book
editors, particularly focusing on DC's Jack Schiff. Specifically, wondering
if Schiff were dead like Mort Weisinger, or still living like Julius
Schwartz, Stan Lee, and (...I assumed, but wasn't totally certain) Chase
Craig. Needless to say, I very much appreciate the information on Mr. Craig.
WHERE WILL DON AULT'S INTERVIEW WITH CRAIG BE PUBLISHED?! I want to see it!
There is SO MUCH information about Western Publishing which will just die
with the passing of men like Craig. I'm certain there are many of us who
would like to learn all they can!
Regarding the descriptive "cover captions" on mid-1960s Gold Key comics, I
tend to think that the individual writers, themselves, may have been
responsible for them.
Consider THE FLINTSTONES # 34 (June, 1966), with the lead story of the coming
of The Great Gazoo (...the little green wish-granting man from space, who
many feel marred the final season of the original TV series). The story was
apparently written by Vic Lockman and -- given Lockman's tendencies toward
rhyming and alliteration in his captions and dialogue -- so was the
descriptive cover caption.
"With a Blip, Blam, Bloo, Comes The Great Gazoo!"
Sounds like Vic Lockman's handiwork to me. Just as "Yeeks! Advance to the
Rear!" sounds like something Barks would have written at the time of "Queen
of the Wild Dog Pack". So, my educated guess is that these captions most
likely originated with the writers of the stories in question, with the
approval of editorial.
Oh, and for any Flintstones fans out there... Vic Lockman demonstrated wisdom
far in excess of the series producers Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera in that he
SENT GAZOO BACK HOME TO SPACE at the end of the story!
Joe Torcivia
I particularly enjoyed Rob's comments in # 549, most notably:
<< "Don Ault's recent interview of Chase Craig (now over 90 years old),
produced mainly general comments about Western's policies, his own editorial
work, and his and Western's relation to Carl Barks. He did not remember
much, if anything, regarding specific incidents or situations." >>
Just two days earlier, I had written some comments on the classic comic book
editors, particularly focusing on DC's Jack Schiff. Specifically, wondering
if Schiff were dead like Mort Weisinger, or still living like Julius
Schwartz, Stan Lee, and (...I assumed, but wasn't totally certain) Chase
Craig. Needless to say, I very much appreciate the information on Mr. Craig.
WHERE WILL DON AULT'S INTERVIEW WITH CRAIG BE PUBLISHED?! I want to see it!
There is SO MUCH information about Western Publishing which will just die
with the passing of men like Craig. I'm certain there are many of us who
would like to learn all they can!
Regarding the descriptive "cover captions" on mid-1960s Gold Key comics, I
tend to think that the individual writers, themselves, may have been
responsible for them.
Consider THE FLINTSTONES # 34 (June, 1966), with the lead story of the coming
of The Great Gazoo (...the little green wish-granting man from space, who
many feel marred the final season of the original TV series). The story was
apparently written by Vic Lockman and -- given Lockman's tendencies toward
rhyming and alliteration in his captions and dialogue -- so was the
descriptive cover caption.
"With a Blip, Blam, Bloo, Comes The Great Gazoo!"
Sounds like Vic Lockman's handiwork to me. Just as "Yeeks! Advance to the
Rear!" sounds like something Barks would have written at the time of "Queen
of the Wild Dog Pack". So, my educated guess is that these captions most
likely originated with the writers of the stories in question, with the
approval of editorial.
Oh, and for any Flintstones fans out there... Vic Lockman demonstrated wisdom
far in excess of the series producers Bill Hanna and Joe Barbera in that he
SENT GAZOO BACK HOME TO SPACE at the end of the story!
Joe Torcivia
Dan Shane
Dan Shane -- link please
Message 329 -
2001-05-29 at 15:19:05
SHELLEY HANSON WOTE:
> Dan,
>
> Would you please post the link to your Scrooge page? Thanks.
>
>
AND I REPLY:
Happily.
http://personal.sdf.bellsouth.net/sdf/d/a/danshane/scroopage/scroohome.htm
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
> Dan,
>
> Would you please post the link to your Scrooge page? Thanks.
>
>
AND I REPLY:
Happily.
http://personal.sdf.bellsouth.net/sdf/d/a/danshane/scroopage/scroohome.htm
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
Dan Shane
VG
Message 330 -
2001-05-29 at 15:23:42
Anders Christian Sivebaek wrote:
> Did VG put the english version or the norwegian one of the blueprints
> in the paper?
And I reply:
I haven't seen the newspaper or the article yet myself. I've only heard
about it from a Norway resident. I'm assuming that the blueprints came from
the recently released Norwegian edition of the comic, though. No one is
publishing the English text version yet, as far as I know. I know I never
supplied ready-for-printing images of the English version to any publisher.
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)
> Did VG put the english version or the norwegian one of the blueprints
> in the paper?
And I reply:
I haven't seen the newspaper or the article yet myself. I've only heard
about it from a Norway resident. I'm assuming that the blueprints came from
the recently released Norwegian edition of the comic, though. No one is
publishing the English text version yet, as far as I know. I know I never
supplied ready-for-printing images of the English version to any publisher.
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)