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Cebarat
DONALD MARKSTEIN wrote:

> Until the 1950s, a U.S. phone number consisted of a word followed by four
> digits. When we reached a point where six digits weren't enough to give a
> unique number to each phone in a local dialing area, a digit was added
after
> the exchange, with a hyphen separating it from the main number -- thus,
> Daisy's number might have become "CItrus 5-2437". Later, as old-style
> telephone exchanges went out of use, the word was replaced by the numbers,
> so Daisy would have given her number as "245-2437". Even today, U.S.
7-digit
> phone numbers are usually given with hyphens between the third and fourth,
> tho it's been decades since the first part referred to a specific
> neighborhood.

I think the hyphen may have been kept in order to make it easier to remember
the seven digits. It simply seems easier to remember a rhythmic recital of
the digits ("da-da-DUM, da-DUM-da-DUM") than a simple string of digits.

Speaking of songs relating to the old-fashioned phone numbers, how about
"PEnnsylvania 6-5000", which was parodied in a Warner Bros. short title as
"Transylvania 6-5000".

Chris Barat
Eric Chun
>Does someone know in which story the word
>"snafu" was used?

Uncle Scrooge #59 Page 1.

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Anders Christian Siveb¾k
>From: "Olaf Solstrand" <harryklein at hotmail.com>
>
>Hi! I've just been to www.duckburg.de , where I saw through some of the
>schetches never used in Life of Scrooge (I'm still not sure whether it
>should be Scrooge or $crooge...), and, while reading part 11, I
>remembered
>one of the things that've always for me been a mystery: The railroad
>shares
>which Scrooge hides from the McVipers and forgets about - did they ever
>return in a Barks story? I guess they did... If not, why did D.R. put
>them
>there?
It was not duckburg.de which you visitted, it was duckhunt.de ,
duckburg.de doesn't exist :-)
According to the S/Dollarsign question. Using the dollarsign and then
crooge is a great gag, used on covers of the magazine US. In the mag HDL
and Donald would normally call him Unca Scrooge, with an s, not a
dollarsign. I guess you have the same problem in Norway where the
pocketbook Onkel dollarsignkrue, would be written so on the cover. In
Denmark they once made Scrooges o, in J*o*akim be a coin or hs face.
In Italy the I in Zio (Uncle) would also show a dollarsign.

Anyway you're question about the railway was answered.
>
>
>Another story that I've never read is the old castle's secret or whatever
>the title is... I've heard that Scotty, the one that I know from Life of
>Scrooge part 9, is taking part in this story. Is this true? If so, what
>does
>he do? Can anyone give me a quick summary of what HAPPENS in that story?
It should be easy to find a copy of the Old cstle's secret - I can find a
danish one if you like.
>
>- Hortense McDuck
idea.
As said, Disney/Egmont wouldn't accept it nless you cover something. But
it would make a great story. BTW I think Katie Quackfaster made a comic on
her page showing the sisters meating Scrooge again, plus Scrooge marrying
Goldie
>
>- Blackheart Beagle gets his hands on the "hypnotize gun" which Scrooge
>used
>to get Donald charge a very strong man for some money (the story where
>Donald was hypnotized to be a gorilla) and manages to make it hypnotize
>everybody, not just them with low will-power... or whatever the word
>is...
>and he uses it in an attempt to finally get his revenge on Scrooge
Great idea, but I wouldn't like old SCroogie to be kilt or something.
>
>- Scrooge and the nephews go to Oak Island, Donald finds a record store
>where they sell "The screaming cowboy". He buys it and it turns out it
>has a
>very special effect on the waves on the ocean...
This Oak Island have confused me. I don't hink I will be able to look it
up in a danish encyclopedia, could one of you danes here help me?
>
>- Magica De Spell
I'm not sure I understand that idea, but it sure sounds interesting. Would
Magica look like herself or Scrooge? Why would they call her aunt?
>
>
>- THE CONTINUATION -
I look forward to it, but it might become your last story, meaning they
might not want it.
>
>
>- Scrooge and the nephews go treasure hunting on the Faroe islands. I
>have
>no clear plot here, but I'm going to the Faroe Islands this summer, so I
>will get hundreds of opportunities to do research on such a story... and
>that would probably make the tale better, if I managed to base it on my
>own
>experiences...
Good idea, research is always great. I look fowardto that story both
because Faroe Islands in unfairly a part of our kingdom, and I go to
teacher's college with one from the islands.
>
>
>
Daniel
>
>Barks' synopsis-only "Hang Gliders Be Hanged!" (D 6886) refers to
>"Mount Demontooth" and "Black Forest of Duckburg".
Interesting info, thanks Daniel.
>
Daniel, in another mail.
>
>
>Maybe we're all just *dreaming* that we live on Earth, while in fact
>we're living somewhere else instead? :-)
Interesting philosophy. In a Goofy story I just read, by Stefan Petrucha,
Goofy thouyght about the same. He was very unhappy when he got the thought
that Mickey might also be a product of virtual reliaty. Some aliens might
be fooling him to think that our world is real...

Seeya!
>

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Thierry Fernand
Two new stories online

Barks' Barney Bear & Benny Burro
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/duckcomicsofbarksandrosa
(Go to the photo section - Yahoo subscribtion rq'd)

Vacation Time (in French)
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...
http://www.geocities.com/maurepas0007/33.jpg

Favio
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Dr. Archontis Pantsios
LUCA:

re: "The Opponent from Another Dimension"
>It's also
> the second story with the "Disney version" of an imp that in different
> comics could be The Bat-Mite or Mr. Mxzyptlk. But the strange thing in
this
> publication is that... Being the second part of the saga, that story
should
> FOLLOW the other one, still written by me and drawn by Lucio Leoni &
> Emanuela Negrin, that was printed in Italy in "Paperinik" # 59 (one year
> before), called "Paperinik e la nefasta caricatura". Story Code I-PK59-1A,
> I-PK59-1B.
> Maybe you know if this last story was just printed in a previous ALMANAKO?
> Any idea about?

That story mentioned by Luca above was indeed re-printed in a previous
ALMANAKO issue, 'cause I remember reading it some time ago. I can't
remember, however, the issue # of the appearance of "La nefasta caricatura".
I'll have to do some "digging" before I supply Luca (and the List) with that
info.

Cheers,

Archontis

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Kenneth Glendinning
Hello all could some one do me a favor and tell me the current price guide
value's for (Mickey Mouse Magazine V5 N3 Series 3)?

Kenneth
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Kenneth Glendinning
Hello again Carl Barks Barney and Benny Burro were published in (Tom and
Jerry Issue 1) in Sept 1991 to any one that is after the stories.

Kenneth

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Stefan Persson
>From: "Kenneth Glendinning" <neth80 at hotmail.com>
>To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
>Subject: Barney Benny
>Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 18:56:22 +1000
>
>Hello again["." or "!"] Carl Barks['(s)] Barney [Bear] and Benny Burro
>[stories] were published in [no "("]Tom ["&", not "and"] Jerry[,] Issue
>1[no ")"] in Sept 1991 to any[no space]one that is after the stories.

I suppose you mean the Swedish re-reprints of them? *All* stories weren't
published in that particular issue; there were never more than two stories
in each issue, I think.

Stefan
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Olaf Solstrand
Again, I choose to write to you even though I have nothing serious to write
about.

To reply to the comment that it didn't seem that I have read too many Carl
Barks stories: That is true. I can't say I've tried to hard to get them - I
have read the ones published in Donald Duck & Co the last ten years or
something like that, some of the stories published in the "Beste historier"
books and the stories from the gigantic white books about Scrooge, Donald
and HD&L. If it is possible, I want to try to buy the CB Library. I guess
it's way out of my price league, but if it's aviable somewhere, I probably
will make some sacrifices to get it... BTW, is there a Don Rosa Library?

Thanks to all of your respond on my ideas. I guess that for some time, I
will only walk around in excitement for what Egmont will say about the
story... I guess they got it today... The next story I'll start working on
is probably the Magica story i mentioned.

BTW, I've started making a Disney Comics Homepage now - in Norwegian. Is it
legal to publish such a site if it contains pictures of Disney characters?
Or, as I wish to call them, Barks characters? Please let me know!

-olaf-
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Daniel Van Eijmeren
Links to rare/original/unpublished Barks items. I don't have any
connection with the sellers or the sites. If you've seen other
rare/original/unpublished items, then I hope you'll post it to the list
as well. Descriptions are by the sellers, except where noted ("DvE").

Items at Ebay (http://www.ebay.com):

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#585172433
Gare' Barks Print Puzzle, FOREST CATHEDRAL
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=585172433

Seller: Up for auction is "FOREST CATHEDRAL" from an original
painting by Gare'Barks. Leanin' Tree Puzzle by Nordevco.
Copyright 1983. Over 500 Pieces. Measures 16" x 20". PZ07.
This is a beautiful Christmas scene with forest animals gathered
around the tree.

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#1140259465
Disney Carl Barks 1981 'Zine UNCLE SCROOGE +
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1140259465

Seller: Disney Carl Barks Fanzine 1980s VACATION IN DUCKBURG First Issue
Issue of a Carl Barks and Walt Disney fanzine called Vacation In Duckburg
done in 1981. This is the first (and only) issue ever put out. Measures
8.5" x 14", folded in half and saddle stitched. Features 32 pages, with
contents on: Uncle Scrooge McDuck's foes (Part one on Flintheart Glomgold);
Walt Disney Comics and Stories Index, The World According to Carl Barks; An
Interview with Ben Sharpsteen (early animator at Disney and Studio boss);
Columns, and advertisements. Cover is hand-colored (this is how it was sent
out) and the press run was under 150 copies, so it is quite rare.

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#1141317404
Armani Disney Scrooge by the Late Carl Barks!
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1141317404

Seller: "EUREKA" 590C Limited Edition of only 3,000 pieces.
By Giuseppi Armani and the late Carl Barks SIZE: 14" H, 10" W

This piece has been one of Armani's most popular new releases. It came out
at an issue price of $800.00, however, the creator and artist of Donald
Duck, Carl Barks, passed away a few months ago. Since then, the price on
this piece has soared! This piece that you are bidding on not only bears
the signature of Giuseppe Armani and Mr. Barks, but you will also receive a
special Certificate of Authenticity that was hand-signed by both of these
legendary artist. Don't miss out on this opportunity to acquire this
magnificent piece at a remarkable price. This piece is limited to only
3,000 pieces and I only have a few left.

This particular piece comes with a special Certificate of Verification
along with the framed Certificate of Authenticity. The Certificate of
Verification, as well as the piece itself carries the signatures of both
Armani and Barks. This piece was based on an original Carl Barks paining
entitled "Eureka!" and is the result of the combined effort of these two
masters. This piece was released in 1999 at the Disney/Armani Convention.

Whenever Armani releases a limited edition Disney piece it sells out within
a matter of months. This piece was no exception. I purchased several at the
time of release and just brought them home and put them away. If you can
find this piece, one that has been signed by both artists and that is still
in the original packing materials and that has never been opened and
displayed, you will pay a fortune for it since Mr. Barks has now passed
away.

The suggested retail on this piece at the time of release was $800.00,
before the passing of Mr. Barks it was selling in some areas for over
$1000.00! I have opened the bidding on this piece at only $700.00. GOOD
LUCK!

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#1141092633
CARL BARKS "BARKSTER BRONZE" STATUE
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1141092633

Seller: Carl Barks designed it, Randy Bowen sculpted it. This 8" tall
bronze statue was originally commissioned for presentation at the 1993
Diamond Gem Awards. Guess who was the first recipient... Carl Barks
himself!

The statue's production is limited to 100 copies. It features highly
detailed patina work, is signed and numbered by Carl Barks, comes with a
certificate of authenticity signed by Randy Bowen and weighs approximately
three pounds. Also included is a brief video presentation, "The Making of
the Barkster", narrated by Carl Barks.

[I would like to have more information on this video. I've never heard
about it before. Is it PAL or NTSC? How long is the playing time? What
exactly does it contain? DvE.]

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#1141336710
CARL BARKS: PHANTOM OF NOTRE DUCK INKED PAGE
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1141336710

Seller: CARL BARKS: The Phantom of Notre Duck original comic book page
(ink on board) for Uncle Scrooge #60, 1965, signed, 40,8 x 59,2 cm
(16 x 24 inches)

[Page 16. Seller links to "Galerie Laqua" site with much more original
Barks art, including pictures of it: "http://www.comicoriginalart.com".
To get to that section I followed "Comic Books" and then "Disney".
The site works only with browsers that support java-script. DvE.]

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#1142584782
FUNNYWORLD #10 *Scarce* 1968 'zine CARL BARKS
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1142584782

Seller: Funnyworld #10 . . . . This cool fanzine was published way back in
1968, one of the better offerings of early organized fandom. Mike Barrier's
efforts eventually led to later issues with slick production, but there is
so much charm to these scarce early mimeographed issues. This one is thick
and packed with great articles, mostly on Barks/Ducks but also touching on
other topics. Also a long review of and art by Robert Crumb, whose
underground work had just been collected in book form for the first time.
Overall excellent issue of this always interesting 'zine!

[Cover contains "Barks and the duck syndrome" pencil drawing in which Barks
shows himself painting a Daisy-like female duck while a nude human female
is posing for him. DvE.]

Best wishes,

--- Daniel
Fluks, H.W.
Hi everyone. I have been away for a week, and there are now 291 e-mails
waiting to be read! Most of the DCML mails I've been reading so far are very
*interesting*, so it will probably take me several days to catch up.

I have been in Freiburg (Germany), Venice (Italy), Grado (Italy), Augsburg
(Germany), and Heidelberg (Germany).

While in Germany (last week), I noticed that the weekly contained *two*
Dutch stories that are special to me: first, the "Blablatt" story (in Dutch:
"Roddelflop"), which is one of my favourite Heymans stories. And then they
had *another* Heymans story, of which I own the original artwork of the
first page.

In Grado, I had a wonderful afternoon and dinner with DCML member Franco
"Eta Beta" Bellazzi (thanks for that, EB!).

And I only saw *one* book with Disney comics in entire Venice! That was the
recent Italian "Life of Scrooge" book. I could surprise my sister by showing
her the text "Vishandel Fluks" in that book. 8-)

I could have shown you some pictures of the San Marco square in Venice, but
somehow I only managed to make pictures of crowds of pigeons...

--Harry.
Kenneth Glendinning
>I suppose you mean the Swedish re-reprints of them? *All* stories >weren't
>published in that particular issue; there were never more than two
> >stories in each issue, I think.

Hi sorry I should have explained it better.
I was talking about a (Harvey issue from the U.S.A).
And yes you are correct there in only one or two stories in the issue.

Kenneth

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Stefan Diös
Hi, all!

Usually, when a question is raised on this forum, lots of knowledgeable
people beat me to the answer even if I happen to know it. Which is just
fine with me! Now, however, there may be one or two issues where I might
add something.

First off, Anders Christian Sivebaek on May 1 (Digest #515) about the
margarine factory where Donald sometimes works:

>- I saw this place mentioned as the skunk oil
>factory, but it sounds strange. In some danish stories Donald has been
>working there, and it's generally a known fact - Donald works at that
>factory when he hasn't got some other (crazy) idea.

In WDC 165 (June 1954), and only this time as far as I know, Barks
mentioned Donald working as "a delivery boy for a skunk oil factory". When
the story first was published in Sweden (Kalle Anka & C:o 2/1955), Donald's
occupation was creatively rendered as "licking gummed tape on cardboard
boxes at the margarine factory" (my own effort of literal translation from
the Swedish text). This works fine, since the job is never shown, just
mentioned (in a rather degrading tone, to boot).

Some time around the 1980's, several stories produced by Egmont (then
Gutenberghus) started to show Donald working at a margarine factory in
Duckburg. It happened so many times during the following years that, just
as Anders Christian notes, it became something of a norm. If a regular
reader was asked where Donald Duck worked, the likely answer would either
be "in Uncle Scrooge's money bin" or "at the margarine factory". Then, as
Egmont stories spread around the world like margarine, more people learned
about this "fact", more writers began to use it (perhaps so urged by the
editors), and it became a tradition. It might be noted that Donald
obviously was promoted during the years: in all the time he has spent at
various margarine factories around Duckburg, I cannot recall having seen
him lick as much as one gummed tape onto the boxes!

Why did this all happen? Knowing that many prominent story writers and/or
editors at Gutenberghus/Egmont were (and are) Swedish, the logical guess
would be that one of them remembered the margarine factory as an "old
classic fact of the 50's" and so wanted to use it in new stories to add
some recognition. This makes sense, and it doesn't really matter whether
this person knew that the reference only existed in the Swedish translation
and only in this one story from 1955. (I don't know for sure if it was used
in Swedish any other times in the 50's, but I doubt it.)

This is the way I always surmised it happened. But another known fact is
that the Swedish and Danish dialogs often resembled each other, borrowing
names for characters and so on, way into the 60's or even the 70's. I
believe that the Swedish translators (in 1955, it was Axel Norbeck) often
were given Danish or other foreign "originals" to work from, even if most
stories originally were American. It's possible that it also happened the
other way round, so the Danish translator might have borrowed something
from the Swedes; but in order to determine that, one would have to check
every case of similarities and decide (or guess) which version came first.

What I don't know is what the Danish translation of WDC 165 says. It seems
to have appeared at the same time as the Swedish one, in Anders And & C:o
2/1955. If the margarine factory is in that text, it could just as well
have been a Dane who revived it in the 80's. For anyone really interested
in learning the details from that time, it shouldn't be too hard to find
someone involved to ask about it - which we can't say as easily about 1955.
Anyway, the margarine factory went on to be a well-known tradition in
Sweden, and evidently also in Denmark. How about other Egmont countries?
Does "everyone" know that Donald works in the margarine factory?

An interesting side note is that I also have seen later-day instances of
Donald working in the actual skunk oil factory. These stories are obviously
written by people, American or others, well schooled in the original Barks
canon. So this tiny reference by Barks in a story that dealt with something
completely different gave birth to two distinct traditions!

Next question, on which I shall not be as wordy, was addressed by Daniel
van Eijmeren on May 5 (Digest #518):

>Gare died on 10 March 1993. I have no idea about her birth date.
>Does someone here know when and where she was born?

According to research done on the Internet by Swedish Donaldists Anders
Berglund and Magnus Christiansson, and referred to in a newsletter (Kvacket
1/01) to members of the Swedish Donaldist society NAFS(k), Margaret
Wynnfred /Williams/ was born on December 6, 1917. This differs from
information I have seen elsewhere that Carl was about 20 or maybe even 30
years older than Gar?.

From the same source, Carl's mother Arminta died on November 7, 1916,
while his brother Clyde Hob Barks was born on August 15, 1899, and died on
November 11, 1983. He was married to Zena Mae Barks, who lived March 14,
1904 - December 28, 1986.

Stefan
Thierry Fernand
"Neigbhor Jones" - 10 pages - art & story by the great Carl Barks

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This story was originally posted on Yahoo's Barks and Rosa forum.
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/duckcomicsofbarksandrosa

Favio

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Fluks, H.W.
Dani?l:

> In (at least) the Dutch 1970s publication of this gag, the
> dialogue was changed.
> I have no idea why the dialogue was changed.

Thom Roep (highly paraphrased): "For lots of 1-pagers printed in 1975, we
got proofs from Denmark, without any text. So we made up our own text. I did
some myself, and they worked out pretty well, even if they're different from
the original."

--Harry.
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