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Timo Ronkainen
(F. A. Elliott)
>Timo Ronkainen <timoro at hotmail.com> has transcribed
>part 1 of some of my Don Rosa Interview into Finnish
>for his "Ankkalinnan Pamaus" #7. Thanks Timo,

Thanks to you for letting me have that interview. I indeed added there some
extra stuff. Asked few more questions related closely to the topics handled
in this first part. And Don most friendly sent me few photos of his studio
filled with ducks.
Thank you, Don!

Timo

PS: To all Finnish members of this lovely list: yes, new Ankkalinnan Pamaus
is out now! ;-)
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Luca Boschi
Hi, Don!

Well, an information that could be useful for everyone, publisher or editors
of your Money Bin story, that in Italy (obviously) is not translated yet.
But it shall happen quite soon... In the last months, I assume...

I don't undestand too much what happened in the panel where the Beagle Boys
start climbing into the vents... But it seems that one of 'em has the wrong
tag number.

So, can you tell us which kind of changement is necessary to do (and in
Italy it can be made by the letterer,the cleverest Diego Ceresa, whom I know
you like)? Which Beagle has the wrong number and which number is the right
one?

Thank you!
I hope is possible to do the best also with you (wonderful!) Money Bin
blueprints...

Ciao,

Luca
Fernando Ventura
Hello friends!

Finally I finished my graduation work of graphical design! As I said, my
work is a Disney story of Professor Ludwig Von Drake! :)
I did the written, the draw and the color...watercolor in fact! :)
The inker is Wilson Magalh?es and the lettering, Lilian Mitsunaga...I hope
to see this published one day...! But, who knows...?

In any way, I'm so sorry for the DCMLians around here taht didn't received
yet the brazilian comics I promissed! Al the comics are in my house right
now, bu I was without any time to go to post then! So now I have the time to
do it, after weeks of work on it! Ok, it's true that I did things on the
last minute...

Thanks for the patience!!!
Fernando! :)
(Someone that is sure that Joe Carioca are not able to work so much...)
Stefan Persson
Hi!

People here has been asking about the new Rosa story, "Ligan moter bingen."
It was published Friday last week and was coded D 2000-191. The cover,
shoving
seven Beagle Boys in the Money Bin, was also by Rosa, code unknown. In this
17-page story the Beagle Boys find a map over the money bin and try to enter
it.

Stefan
Timo Ronkainen
Hi all!

Does anybody know if it is known how much WDC&S were sold in 1950's and how
much bigger those sales figures were comparing to other Disney comic books
(Disney-Four Colors etc.) and to non-Disney books (other Four Color
funny-animal books, superheros etc.). I have a conception that WDC was the
highest selling comic book at that time. Is it true?
If so, I think it was because of Carl Barks had his 10-pager in almost all
of those WDC issues (but we all know that already :-)).
I just would like to have some hard data, if there is any.
I mean when Barks had a break in his 10-pagers, several issues had Donald
Duck 10-pagers drawn by someone else, were these issues sold less that those
with Barks?

Timo

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Heike Und Sven
Hi Dan,

> Well, I was going to wait until all the European issues were published and
> on the stands for a bit before posting the blueprints to the Scrooge Page,
> and I still might. However, since they've already been spread across 2
> pages in the Norwegian newspaper, VG, it's hard to feel quite as reserved
> about showing the drawings.

> Look for them in a few weeks, along with some explanatory text. It's about
> time I added *something* to that site, anyway.

That is very good news. Thank you very much! I am looking forward to finally
seeing the blueprints. I will check your Scrooge Page every once in a while.

Of course I would appreciate to see more new items on your Scrooge Page, like
the inbetween chapters of the 'Life of Scrooge' saga. But I perfectly under-
stand that you and Don have lots of other things to do. I just wanted to take
the opportunity to tell you how much fun your Scrooge Page brought to me. I
even printed out all the material and had it hardbound in our local copy shop.
So I have my own book about the saga thanks to your (and Don's) brilliant work.

All the best
Sven
Olivier
Hi everyone!

Norman:

> > In the german edition of "The cowboy captain of the
> > Cutty Sark", on page 6, panel 3, Scrooge refers to >
> his two running longhorns as "Michael Muhmachers"

Apostolis:
>>The Greek text says
>> "You're faster than Texas' twisters, you little longhorns".

Here's the original (WDC&S 318):
"Ha! I've chased you long-legged boys in enough stampedes
to know you can run like *Texas twisters*! Why, I might get
those sultans to bid against each other!"

Olivier
Håvard Hesjevoll
Does anyone here know anything about a Disney-character I just red about
called (at least in norwegian) "Filo Filur"? The story was called (directly
translated from norwegian) "Phone mess" and was made by Alessandro Sisti and
Guiseppe Dalla Santa. "Filo Filur" looks like a goose with a hat and BIG
sideburns. It seemed like the Ducks knew him previously...

-Håvard
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Scotty Arsenault
Hi. I just signed up for this list, so I'll introduce myself. My
name's Scotty Arsenault, I'm 29, and I am a graphic artist living in New
Jersey, USA. I've got quite a big collection of Donald Duck, Uncle
Scrooge, and Mickey Mouse comics, all published here in the States, but
I'm looking to start a collection of European Disney comics. In
particular, the Italian Donald Duck ones where he's a super hero. I
don't know of any stores over here where I can get any European comics.
So I'll be happy to do some trades if anyone would like to help me out!

--

Scotty Arsenault
heebas.com - yerf.com

N I S H N A B O T N A
Daniel Van Eijmeren
The information in this email is supplied to me by Poul Frokjar
in 1998 and 2000.

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Promotional texts on Uncle Scrooge comics

In the 1960s, a lot of the Uncle Scrooge comics contained a promotional
text for the main story inside. At the moment I have no idea if they were
made by Barks himself, but the thought is interesting enough to list the
texts here. (They are removed in "The Carl Barks Library".)

Uncle Scrooge No.?49 to No.?53 and No.?55 to No.?60 only have the title
mentioned, though a penciled alternate cover version for "The Swamp of No
Return" (US?57) contains the text:

Uncle Scrooge
battles the
forgetting
machine in~
I DON'T REMEMBER ME!

Goldkey reprints of Uncle Scrooge No.?63 and No.?65 have the same texts as
the original, but arranged differently. Issue?67 -?which contained a
reprint?- hasn't got a promotional text on cover. So, maybe this could
indicate that the texts were Barks' idea. But even if so, maybe some of
them were too weird for his editors, which may explain why there's suddenly
the simple line "exciting adventure" on Uncle Scrooge No.?68.

Another exception could be "House of Haunts" (US?63), for which Barks
originally had the title "His Shining Hour", but was changed by the
editors. Reading through Barks' notes shows that the story was submitted to
the editors on August?3, 1965, while the cover was submitted on September
12, 1965. So, maybe this means that Barks knew about the title change in
advance?

Also, it seems that after Barks' last story, "King Scrooge the First"
(US 71), a couple of (Strobl) issues lacked the promotional texts. At
some stage the editors got this up and running again. So, if Barks had
no hand in the promotional texts, this would be a *very* clear example of
coincidence in general.

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Uncle Scrooge 54

Why does an elephant have polka dots and a square trunk?
for the answer read THE BILLION-DOLLAR SAFARI!

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Uncle Scrooge 61

Follow the ducks on a wild African adventure...
SO FAR NO SAFARI

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Uncle Scrooge 62

YEEKS! Advance
to the rear! It's
THE QUEEN
OF THE WILD
DOG PACK

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Uncle Scrooge 63

It's spooky! It's kooky!
It's Scrooge and the Beagles in the scary HOUSE OF HAUNTS!

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Uncle Scrooge 64

Neither spies,
elephant flies nor
bad guys can keep
Uncle Scrooge away from
THE TREASURE OF MARCO POLO

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Uncle Scrooge 65

Tiny green visitors give
Scrooge a chance to make a billion dollars in
MICRO-DUCKS
FROM OUTER SPACE!

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Uncle Scrooge 66

A horse runs amuck with a duck out of luck...
THE HEEDLESS HORSEMAN

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Uncle Scrooge 68

Exciting adventure:
HALL OF THE MERMAID QUEEN!

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Uncle Scrooge 69

YIPPY-KY-YI! Scrooge and
his cowducks ride high in
THE CATTLE KING

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Uncle Scrooge 70

It's bad luck in big bunches when
Scrooge buys THE DOOM DIAMOND!

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Uncle Scrooge 71

Scrooge has
a battle royal
in the royal palace
of Ancient Sagbad...
KING SCROOGE THE FIRST!

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Best wishes,

--- Daniel
Luca Boschi
Hi, Stefan!

Thank you a lot about the informations about the new Rosa story: "Ligan
moter bingen", about its story code and all... I'll appreciate very much if
you'd tell the same kind of informations to all of us for ALL the Barks
related stories, when they come out in your land.
For example, the Gladstone Gander story, drawn by C. Ferioli in a wonderful
way (so everyone told about it), how many pages long is it? I guess these
stories shall come out with a weekly schedule, aren't they?

Thank you again.

Luca
Kriton Kyrimis
Here's what's in this month's issue of Komix:

* Cover by Walt Kelly. I have put a scan in
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/pics/komix156.jpg
* Two pages with "The News of Komix".
* Don's "The Cowboy Captain of the Cutty Sark" (D98045).
* A three page article titled "A cowboy in the Pacific", subtitled
"Don Rosa talks about an "unknown page" of the Life and Times.
* William Van Horn's "Winging It" (D96009).
* A two page articles titled "Aragones's Space Circus", subtitled
"imminent landing on the pages of Komix". Komix will begin publishing
"Space Circus", drawn by Sergio Aragones and written by Mark Evanier,
in August. [Needless to say, I am extremely suspicious about this
move. It's not as if there is a lack of Disney comics material that's
forcing Komix to use non-Disney material to fill their pages.]
* Romano Scarpa's "Il Linguaggio della Pelle Bufalina" (from Almanaco
Topolino #139, published in July 1968).

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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Here is the translation of two articles from last month's issue of Komix.
I found the second article particularly interesting. [As usual, comments
in square brackets are my own.]

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A ride around Duckburg on the legendary 313
Donald's Jalopy

Less impressive than Batman's shiny Batmobile, less talkative than
TV's Knight Rider's KIT, Donald's Jalopy is one of the most lovable
vehicles of the Ninth Art.

The automobile is an inseparable part of man's everyday life in the 20th
century. And when the boisterous duck named Donald, who made his first
appearance in a cartoon of the 1930s, began transforming into an almost
human everyday hero, his creators made sure to also give him a vehicle
for moving around...

IN THE ASPHALT JUNGLE

Comic book Donald first acquired a car in Al Taliaferro's strips in
the 1930s. In a strip, first published in February 1938, we see Donald
getting ready to sell a vehicle of rather archaeological value with a
113 license plate. In July of the same year, the familiar convertible of
indeterminable model makes its appearance, while in 1941 we see Donald
crossing the United States on another type of car which, however, will
not be used again. It was probably exchanged for another car... [The
term they use here was the one used in Greece a couple of years ago
when one could get a discount on a new car with a catalytic converter
engine if they would bring in their old car to be destroyed. Obviously,
this was not quite the case in 1941!]

Carl Barks will draw the familiar jalopy with a 313 license plate in the
fourth panel of the page before last of the classic story *Good Neighbors*
(_Carl Barks 1X10), which was first published in _Walt Disney Comics
and Stories_ #38 in November 1943.

JALOPY, MY LOVE

Since that time, to adorable convertible will accompany Donald in
countless adventures and will become an inseparable part of the familiar
microcosm that Carl Barks will set up around his hero. And the modern
or younger creators, who will follow the Duck Man's footsteps, will also
draw their version of the jalopy...

Don Rosa will also make his own version, and this in one of his first
and best stories. In the story *Recalled Wreck*, Don Rosa explains to us
what is this that makes this vehicle so unique. Donald adores it not only
because he has made it with his own hands, but because it is unique and
irreplaceable, as well, since it is made from spare parts of old models
that are no longer available: "This Gem is built from classic car parts
that have been out of production for decades! There's not a single bit
that's replaceable!"

This phrase reminds us of Don's stories themselves. Don's comics are
small "gems" made with love and ???(*) from memories of books and comics,
of films and TV series "that have been out of production" and which are
part of the personal "good old times" of a charismatic creator. For
the heroic crew of _Komix_, Donald's love for his jalopy is something
like a symbol of Don Rosa's sensitivity. And unlike Donald's car, which
belongs only to its owner, Don's comics also belong to its readers. In
each of his stories, Don shares with us the small and large treasures
of his personal mythology.

(*)[They use the Greek word "meraki", which means the kind of love and
attention to detail that one puts in a labor of love, and for which,
I have it on good authority, there is no translation into English.]

[Legend, first page, upper right]
*Above* The first appearance of 313 in a Carl Barks story.
*Below* The panel from the one page story by Carl Barks which was one
of the sources of inspiration for Don Rosa's story. Donald says that he
is going to a junk yard to buy parts for his car.

[Legend, first page, bottom]
*Above* Donald's old car from Al Taliaferro's strip which was published
in the daily newspapers on February 24, 1938.
*Below* Donald's convertible jalopy makes its first impressive appearance
in an Al Taliaferro strip (July 1, 1938).

[Legend, second page]
*Above* A drawing by Don Rosa for the story _Recalled Wreck_.
*Below* In addition to classic comics, Don Rosa also has an impressive
collection of all sorts of gadgets inspired by Disney's heroes. In the
glass cases of Don's collection there are figures with Donald on the
wheel of 313.

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Jerry Siegel in Carl Barks' territory
From Metropolis to Duckburg

Jerry Siegel, the creator of Superman, wrote scripts for Duck stories
during the last years of his career.

In the field of American comics, "transfers" of creators from one
publishing house to another were a common occurrence. Many times they
might be due to financial or personal motives; very often, however, these
transfer lead to more or less unforeseen encounters and collaborations. One
such unforeseen turn of events led Jerry Siegel, the creator of Superman,
to the world of Carl Barks' ducks. During the last years of his career,
Jerry Siegel wrote stories with the familiar heroes of Disney and the
Duck Man. Even without collaborating directly, fate wanted to have the
paths of the two great creators, who marked, each in his own way, the
history of their art, meet.

SIEGEL IN DUCKBURG

Jerry Siegel's work in the field of comics with Disney's heroes is one
of the less known aspects of his career. During the 1970s, he will write
more than 150 scripts starring mainly the Ducks, as well as Mickey,
which will be illustrated by important Italian artists, such as Romano
Scarpa, Massimo De Vita, Giuseppe Perego, and Giorgio Cavazzano. In 1996,
about a year before Superman's creator left us, one last of his stories
will be published, starring Carl Barks' ducks and drawn by Milet.

Jerry Siegel's duck stories may not be the most important side of his
work. Never the less, these stories, in which he recounts adventures
taking place in the world created by Carl Barks, are a magical meeting
between two top figures of the Ninth Art. However, the story of this
meeting does not end here; a young creator, who grew up reading Carl
Barks' classic Duck stories and Jerry Siegel's Superman stories, will
incorporate the memories from their work into his own stories. His
name? Don Rosa!

DON AND JERRY

Until recently, Don Rosa had not been aware that Jerry Siegel had also
written Duck stories; however, he never hid his love for Superman's
creator and how much he has been influenced by his work. "After Barks'
stories, my favorite stories during the years that followed the time when
I would read the comics that my sister bought, is the series of Superman
adventures under the direction of Mort Weisinger", he told _Komix_. "These
comics are what made me love the idea of a limited series, a series
completed in three or four issues (note: if the American expression
"limited continuity" can be translated in such a way). They were the
first comics to create a universe which continued to exist from one story
to the next--although this would happen to a much smaller degree than
in the irritatingly extreme continuity that _Marvel_ introduced years
later. Weisinger's comic books also introduced other innovations. It was,
for example, the second comic book series that would dedicate entire
issues to a single adventure, something that only _Dell_ publishing
had done until then. Moreover, Weisinger's comic books introduced the
imaginary _what if..._ stories or the hero origin stories. All these are
elements which you see me mix into my stories with Barks' ducks. This is
then, why it is wrong for someone to claim that I write stories `just
like Barks' or, on the contrary, that in my stories there is continuity
in the style of _Marvel_ comics. I try to write stories that honor Barks,
but I also try to add many more elements as well. Thus, after Barks,
the second main ingredient of my own mix are Superman stories of the
period between 1955 and 1970.

Where am I driving to? To the fact that I used to write about how much
I loved these comics in the articles that I would give to the various
fanzines... Until one day I got a letter from Jerry Siegel, in which he
was thanking me and telling me that it was he who had written the story
which I had said was my favorite (_The Death of Superman_, 1959). He also
wrote that many more stories of the `Superman family' in Mort Weisinger's
comic books were his. Indeed, Jerry Siegel is perhaps the man who
had created this entire Superman universe that I loved so much! Thus,
Siegel is perhaps the second greatest influence on my own Duck comics.

I didn't know that he had also written his own Duck stories. It was
probably some of my Italian friends, very knowledgeable in the history
of comics, who informed me of this some time in the last decade".

HIS LIFE & TIMES

Jerome Siegel was born in Cleveland, Ohio, in 1914. A great science
fiction fan, Jerry began publishing the amateur magazine _Cosmic Stories_
(1929), a small pamphlet with his own stories. In 1931 he meets Joe
Shuster, who had just moved with his family to the united states. Joe also
loves science fiction, and his hand is adept at drawing. It doesn't take
long for the two young men to become inseparable friends, and in 1932
they publish another science fiction magazine, _Science Fiction_. In
the January 1933 issue, Jerry published a short story titled _Reign of
the Superman_, which gave them a very interesting idea, the idea about
a hero that would be unlike all others.

THE BIRTH OF SUPERMAN

The superman of this short story was a being with supernatural powers,
but was the villain of the story. The two friends converted him into a
positive hero, and in 1932 they had already completed the first panels
of a comic strip, and the next year the draft drawings for a comic book
with Superman's adventures. Joe and Jerry showed their work to many
publishers, but nobody was interested. This, however, did not discourage
them, as their other ideas had better luck. In 1935 they managed to
find a publisher for another new hero, Dr. Occult, and for other series,
Radio Squad, Federal Men, Spy, and Slam Bradley. Three years later, _DC
Comics_ will agree to publish Superman's adventures, and in June 1938
the hero with the blue suit and the red cape made his first appearance
on the cover of the first issue of the _Action Comics_ magazine.

SUCCESSES AND SETBACKS

Superman's success was immediate. A new era for comics had just
begun. Masked and unmasked superheroes with fancy suits and superhuman
powers flood the news stands. However, Jerry Siegel and Joe Shuster
will not remain satisfied, and they will begin a long court fight with
their publishers, a fact which will push them aside. Joe will retire
in 1949, while Jerry begins a new creative career. He will collaborate
with several publishing houses, while in 1959 he will collaborate with
_DC Comics_ again, and will write some of his best stories with Superman
and other heroes.

[Captions]

[Page 1, left]
The cover of the first issue of _superman_, and a draft for a cover by
Don Rosa for the story _Return of Super Snooper_.

[Page 1, right]
*Above* Two characteristic scenes from the first TV series about the
adventures of Superman, which was shown during the 1950s. The part of
Superman and his alter ego, Clark Kent, is played by Kirk Allyn. [sp?]
*Below* Jerry Siegel (extreme left) and Joe Shuster (extreme right)
in the early 1940s.

[Page 2]
two characteristic panels from the episode titled _The Death of Superman_,
one of Don Rosa's favorite stories, as he told us.

[Page 3, above]
The Siegel-Shuster duo, apart from Superman, also put their signature on
several other familiar stories, such as the adventures of the detective
Bart Regan.

[Page 3, below]
For the fiftieth anniversary of the French _Semic_ publications, Moebius
draws an original Superman cover: one more homage to Jerry Siegel and
Joe Shuster's hero from one of the ninth art's greats.

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Bohemian teaspoon."
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Olaf Solstrand
"Filo Filur" appears in lots of stories I know from the pocket books and the
"Onkel Skrue" magazines. He has been in lots of stories. He mainly appears
as a friend of Scrooge's wooer, I don't remember her name, but in Norwegian
it's "Birgitte".

Some details on Filo:
- He has appeared under many different names (at least in Norwegian). Blame
the translators!

- He is not afraid of doing things in the illegal way. I specially remember
him from a story drawn specially for the 1988 Summer Olympics in Seoul,
which has about 200 pages (!) and contains almost all Disney figures
(Scrooge, Donald, HD&L, Gyro, Mickey, Mickey's little crow friend, The
Beagle Boys, Black Pete, Rockerduck, "Birgitte", Fethry etc. etc. etc. By
the way, in this story Filo had no name - he was always referred to as
"Birgitte"'s compagnion.) Here, Filo was

- He is a genious inventor. He once invented a water-driven car which
Scrooge also bought (and then suddenly he realized that the car needed 50
liters of water to drive a kilometer) Don't get me wrong, he is nothing
compared to Gyro...

- He wants to be a strong business man in Duckburg, and he often starts from
scratch with different ideas. He has been selling things like shoes,
grasshoppers and transistor radios, but one thing I especially remember is
that he once made small lamps containing live fireflys!

- He once swallowed a magic amethyst which originally belonged to Scrooge's
servant ("James" in Norwegian, very often used in the pocket books). This
accident revealed that he deep inside has a crush on "Birgitte"!

So, the final question... Does "Filo Filur" exist in the Duckburg to believe
in? (as explained earlier, the Duckburg *I* believe in contains neither
Mickey or Fethry) My opinion is YES, if you choose to believe in "Birgitte"
you must also believe in "Filo" - he is appearantly "Birgitte"'s best
friend. But even though he exists in Duckburg, he is not an important
person, but just a good friend of a woman that admires Scrooge. I would
never use him in a story myself, unless I once should make a "Birgitte"
story. Got my point?

-olaf-
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Olaf Solstrand
Don Rosa really confused me this time. My question is about Scrooge's
pickax, which he used in the gold rush.

The story "last sled to Dawson" shows that the pickax was on the sled with
other memories from Scrooge's past. Yet, in Lo$ part 12, Donald finds the
same pickax in the chest on Scrooge's store room! We KNOW that "Life of
Scrooge part 12" (1947) happened long before "Last sled to Dawson" (1954),
so what's the explanation?

One possible explanation is that this was two different pickaxes, but I
doubt it. Scrooge would never buy a new pickax when the old one still was
useable. (or another english word...) Which it appearantly was - if we
presume that the last pickax Scrooge ever owned was the one on the sled
(which we must believe, since he would not need to buy another pickax when
he was leaving Whitehorse for the last time), the eventually first one was
the one in the chest in the storeroom. And when it still could be used to
open a door, I don't see why he didn't use it for the rest of the gold rush.

Was this a fatal mistake, or does everything have a logical explanation?

-olaf-
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