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Hi!

I've been reading Rosa's new Gyro story a couple of times now and started
to wonder how superhelium actually works. When Gyro demonstrates it to
Donald he says that it forms a solid film when contacted with metal. Then
when Helper punctures the film gas starts to come out. But shouldn't it
have become a solid when it touched the coins inside. Well, that could be
explained with air being a catalyst for the reaction. But then again
shouldn't the hole Helper made close when the gas again has contact with
metal and air. Anyway, this bugs me a lot since I'm desperately
trying to become a chemist in the distant future.
Other than that it's a very nice story about Gyro and his best friend. It
reminds me of an Italian story Archimede e la scomparsa di Edi (I TL
2266-2) where Helper gets lost on a test flight and its lamp brakes. A
farmer finds it and changes the lamp. The lamp is different than the usual
one and Helper doesn't remember Gyro anymore. Gyro finds about Helper and
comes to get it, but it doesn't regonize him anymore. Gyro is really
heartbroken about this, but luckily everything ends up nice and Helper
gets home. And I really loved the Mickey in the broken toys box on page 8.
It just looks too cute on Donald's head.
Also I started to wonder why Scrooge's money didn't go straight to the
quicksand when they crashed down. That thin rock layer couldn't have
survived the impact those moneys gave.

--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/

"Ei ole en?? muotia kuolla syd?men rasvoittumiseen p?yd?n ??ress?, vaan
pururadalla." -Kroisos Pennonen, taskari 54

From: Petri Kanninen <pkannine at cc.hut.fi>
>>>I've been reading Rosa's new Gyro story a couple of times now and started
to wonder how superhelium actually works.

It works just as I want it to work, in such a manner as to make the plot
work out just the way I wish it to. Convenient, eh?
Can you explain how all of Gyro's other inventions work?!

>>>When Gyro demonstrates it to
Donald he says that it forms a solid film when contacted with metal.

If that's what Gyro says, then your translator is not following my script. I
said that it forms a solid film *beyond* the metal... when it *no longer* is
in contact with the metal -- quite the opposite.

>>>>when Helper punctures the film gas starts to come out. But shouldn't it
have become a solid when it touched the coins inside.

??? It was already touching every coin inside. That's your translator again.

>>>But then again
shouldn't the hole Helper made close when the gas again has contact with
metal and air.

When you paint a wall and it dries, then if you scratch or damage the wall
and mar the paint, does the paint reseal itself over the scratch and hide it
again? That would be some great paint!
But maybe you mean the escaping gas should seal the hole by solidifying as
it leaves the coins? Shall I invent a reason why it doesn't? Give me 1.37
seconds: A) There is a brief time limit in which the gas will do that,
otherwise it would be useless trying to remove the ship hulls from the
bubbles. B) The gas won't solidify if it's moving too fast, just as rushing
water won't freeze. C) The gas was faulty, exactly as Gyro says, that's why
he would not accept payment D) Etc., etc., etc.

>>> Anyway, this bugs me a lot since I'm desperately
trying to become a chemist in the distant future.

My degree is in engineering, not chemistry. But I suspect that if you ever
actually try to invent the gas described in this story, you *might* be
disappointed.

>>>Also I started to wonder why Scrooge's money didn't go straight to the
quicksand when they crashed down. That thin rock layer couldn't have
survived the impact those moneys gave.

(sigh...)

Fellow Quackeroos:

Here's what hit the Greek stands in the past couple of weeks:

1) MIKY MAOUS #1868, May 3, 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.17 euro)
a) Mickey Mouse in "La 'Topobeta Speciale'", from "Topolino" #573, 1966 (35
pages). Script: the Barosso brothers; Art: Sergio Asteriti (Note: the last 4
pages are drawn by Giuseppe Perego, which means that it's a re-print from a
"Classici" issue. MM lists no credits for this story.)
b) Donald and Fethry in "Maestri pasticcieri", from "Topolino" #2317, 2000
(19 pages). Script: Bruno Sarda; Art: Alessandro Perina
c) Daisy Duck in "La marmellata di papaya", from "Topolino" #2286, 1999 (16
pages). Script: Carlo Panaro; Art: Giampaolo Soldati

2) MIKY MAOUS #1869, May 10, 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 1.17 euro)
a) Mickey Mouse in "La quiete lacustre", from "Topolino" #1301, 1980 (35
pages). Script & art: Romano Scarpa
b) Gyro Gearloose in "Il rivale imbattibile", from "Topolino" #2303, 2000
(29 pages). Script: Rudy Salvagnini; Art: Giorgio Cavazzano
c) Fethry Duck in "La grande idea", from "Topolino" #2281, 1999 (6 pages).
Script: Gianfranco Cordara; Art: Marco Meloni

3) MEGALO MIKY #417, May 2002 (100 pages; cover price: 2.35 euro)
a) Mickey Mouse in "Il salto del salmone", from "Almanacco Topolino" #131,
1967 (28 pages). Script: Guido Martina; Art: Luciano Bottaro
b) Uncle Scrooge in "La saltarana", from "Almanacco Topolino" #127, 1966 (29
pages). Script: Guido Martina; Art: Giorgio Bordini
c) Super Goof in "The Golden Rain", 12 pages. Creators unknown.
d) The Beagle Boys in "The Beatle", WDC&S #319, 5 pages. Script: Vick
Lockman; Art: Tony Strobl

"Til next time,

Archontis

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Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228

As I told you a few days ago, I have no reconstructed
the "Don Rosa Duck Family Tree Section". And when
doing so I have included a "All appearances:" post
below the miniature scans.

However, due to my lack of ability to read and
transcript the Greek alphabet I haven't been able to
include such a post for the Greek version. I now hope
that any of my greek friends here can help me with
this.

I will also be happy to get other interesting info
about the greek version, the greek names or about
other publications than then one in Komix #100 in
oktober 1996.

You can see my page about the Greek version here:
http://duckman.pettho.com/tree/greek.html

Best regards from
Sigvald :-)

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Okay, confession time.

The virus sent to members of this list originated from one of the computers
I own. My son likes to view Japanese animation over the Internet, and
antivirus software slows down that process. He developed the very bad habit
of turning off the virus scanner while watching his movies, and he forgot to
turn it back on before reading his email. He also had a lapse of judgment
when it came to opening attachments, and infected the machine. It was about
5 minutes before I noticed the extreme network traffic from my location in
another room, so several of you received infected mail before I could run
into the office and switch off the system.

I'm rebuilding the machine now, as I never like results of just cleaning a
virus off a computer -- there are always vestigial remnants of such
infections. I hope no one opened the KLEZ worm that they received from my
home.

Thanks to Don for identifying me only as "a friend" when removing the blame
from himself, but it is only fair that I acknowledge my mistake. Meanwhile,
my son has learned a valuable object lesson at YOUR expense! Thanks for
contributing to his computer education.

Sheepish Dan :(

DON:
> From: Petri Kanninen <pkannine at cc.hut.fi>
>> to wonder how superhelium actually works.
> It works just as I want it to work, in such a manner as to make the plot
> work out just the way I wish it to. Convenient, eh?
> Can you explain how all of Gyro's other inventions work?!

No, and I usually don't even try to explain them. But this gas was such a
fascinating idea I started to think about it more.

> >>>When Gyro demonstrates it to
> Donald he says that it forms a solid film when contacted with metal.
>
> If that's what Gyro says, then your translator is not following my script. I
> said that it forms a solid film *beyond* the metal... when it *no longer* is
> in contact with the metal -- quite the opposite.

It says: "When the gas touches ship's metal hull, it forms a solid film
that eventually surrounds the ship like a balloon." Now that you told what
it originally said, I can see what the translator meant that the
solidification (is that a real word) only happens outside.

> >>>But then again
> shouldn't the hole Helper made close when the gas again has contact with
> metal and air.

> But maybe you mean the escaping gas should seal the hole by solidifying as
> it leaves the coins? Shall I invent a reason why it doesn't?

Yes, this is what I meant.

> Give me 1.37 seconds: A) There is a brief time limit in which the gas
> will do that, otherwise it would be useless trying to remove the ship
> hulls from the bubbles. B) The gas won't solidify if it's moving too
[...]

"A" sounds like a good option. And I couldn't figure it out think any good
explanations in a day...

> >>> Anyway, this bugs me a lot since I'm desperately
> trying to become a chemist in the distant future.
>
> My degree is in engineering, not chemistry. But I suspect that if you ever
> actually try to invent the gas described in this story, you *might* be
> disappointed.

Actually my degree will be in chemical engineering, so it's not too far
away. And good inventions come from crazy ideas. So if I ever get a Nobel
prize for inventing a gas that becomes solid when contacted with metal
I'll remember to thank you for giving me the idea.

> >>>Also I started to wonder why Scrooge's money didn't go straight to the
> quicksand when they crashed down. That thin rock layer couldn't have
> survived the impact those moneys gave.
>
> (sigh...)

Yeah, I can be bothersome sometimes. Just ask my parents about the too
many questions I made when I was a kid. But it's nice to have someone
doing the kind of Disney comics that make wonder how things actually
happen in them.

--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/

"Ei ole en?? muotia kuolla syd?men rasvoittumiseen p?yd?n ??ress?, vaan
pururadalla." -Kroisos Pennonen, taskari 54

Has the lightbulb always been a lightbulb? It certainly looks like that
nowadays, even though it's a bit pointy on the top, which at least my
ordinary lightbulbs aren't.
But in the old days, if I am remembering correctly, little helpers head
looked more like a hmm. an electrical component you used before you got
the transistor. I have no idea what the name for that is in english (tube,
perhaps?)
(elektronr?r in swedish, perhaps someone can help me?), i e not a lamp at
all, but some kind of semiconductor device (??) (I'm a physicist, not an
elictrician, so I don't know so much about these things) It looks like
lamp, but it's more cylindrical in the form, and has a pointy top. And
some stuff inside as well. Those things could be quite large, I think.

Or is it just an ordinary lamp little helper uses? Even back then?

--
/Theresa