Hi all
ME
> > I believe I told here about the Danish Donaldist Society?
> > We're above 20 members now and we would like more
(That's more than 30 now)
HARRY
> Do you have any relation with the people of Carl Barks & Co (Benni
Boedker
> and/or Freddy Milton)? If not, isn't it better to join forces?
I mailed all people on my contact list who would be potential members,
including
my favorite danish cartoonist Freddy Milton - but he's a very busy man,
perhaps
to busy to join another fanzine/club. I don't know Benni Boedker, much
less how to
get in contact with him - I will try when I get more time (exams are
nearing).
Carl Barks & Co. is very seldomly published now - we do recognize their
existance,
as we do with the 3 other paper-fanzines and the online seriejournalen
(danish comic journal).
Overmore Carl Barks & Co. also contains much other things, about comics
and cartoons -
our fanzine might not do that as much. -
Over overmore ( :-) ) one of the people behind CB&/Co. now is Paw
Mathiasen, who is also
editor of Strip! a big danish fanzine ... - I mean to say this maybe
took over partly the "function" of CB& Co. - but I hope there is room
on the market for 5 fanzines - and we'll do what we can to cooperate.
Personally I would be very willing to contribute to them all. (Did to
two of them so far)
KRITON
> > I'm showing off my ignorance here, but why would a dedication by
Don
> > decrease, rather than increase a comic book's value?
JUSSI
> It makes them illegal trade. Clearly having the autograph of someone
else
> except Walt Disney on a Disney comic is a violation of something.
Doesn't
> Walt draw them all himself?-)
The reason that the first writer wanted to have them written on was to
protest on something
that Comic Price Guide says - that the comic looses worth when the
artist has written on front.
I for one don't think so and I don't care - I wont ever sell my 3
autographed comics. Two of them
did loose worth btw. - I decided to frame two of them with a photo and
a copy of a drawing that i won in
a duckhunt contest (the red autograph is real though) - the comics
where to thick so I --- awk! took
out the content and saved it another place. But I didn't plan to sell
them anyway!
The 3rd one is in it's bag, nicely autographed by Don - in places where
it really *fits* on the cover. - Thanks to Gary and Duco for passing it
on to me (erm - is that the right word? Gary had it autographed,
for me, and then he send it to Duco who gave it to me)
SIGVALD (who rightly should have joined long time ago - welcome very
much here, my friend :-))
> When looking at the homepage for Danish Anders And &
> Co I discovered that the cover for AA&Co #19/2002
> seems to be flipped compared to its counterparts in
> Norway, Sweden and Finland.
It is - and as I told you in private mail (send after this list was
send out) I don't know why.
There's no reason as far as I can see - the text about the story and
this weeks (ridicoulous :-)) gift
could have been on either side, it didn't have to be mirrored. - the
mirroring even made the dedication be cut of halfly
> While Scrooge is to the left and Donald is to the
> right in Norway/Sweden/Finland
> http://www.disney.no/DonaldDuck/index2.html
>
> The situation is the opposite in Denmark:
> http://www.disney.dk/andersand/index2.html
>
> Do anyone know why this has happened?
Hmm - maybe it's the same as in 1991 when the Xanadu-cover was mirrored
- they want the main-charecter to be to the left (as in the direction
we read, to quote Don about that mirroring).
But if it is so: why didn't they tell Don that - why do they mirror a
drawing with a dedication so that it halfly disappears... - oh well, I
bet it isn't done on purpous (argh... I lost my dictionary) - maybe it
just slipped. - anyway the ones who designs the covers aren't used to
dedication on the covers...
> And what version is correct?
The norwegian and other ones of course.
Author
Topic: 200205
(291 messages)
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Re 920 - Harry, Kriton - Jussi and Sigvald
Message 91 -
2002-05-10 at 00:34:22
Anders Christian Sivebaek
Re 921 - Rob and Ari
Message 92 -
2002-05-10 at 00:42:57
Rob
Thanks for the pieces of advice.
Benni snipped
> Freddy gave me the idea that he wanted to pass the baton to someone
else, in
> terms of the responsibilities of putting a fanzine together
periodically.
> However, he didn't say he would be averse to contributing again from
time to
> time. You would do well to contact him. Also Paw Mathiassen, the
ex-publisher
> of Carl Barks & Co. was also a big Barks fan. You may want to
contact him, as
> well.
As told in a mail send later than this list I did contact freddy who
seems to be busy at this time -
Paw is already "my editor" , as he is that of Strip! - and I did an
interview with someone for that fanzine - hopefully it will publish in
june.
ARI
> Roy:
That's Rob - it's funny how it's misread - even S?ren (SKO) misread it
the first time and was at a time mentioning Rob as Rob Roy or such (Rob
Roy is a national scottish hero - probably he had a friend in the
mcduck family)
Thanks for the pieces of advice.
Benni snipped
> Freddy gave me the idea that he wanted to pass the baton to someone
else, in
> terms of the responsibilities of putting a fanzine together
periodically.
> However, he didn't say he would be averse to contributing again from
time to
> time. You would do well to contact him. Also Paw Mathiassen, the
ex-publisher
> of Carl Barks & Co. was also a big Barks fan. You may want to
contact him, as
> well.
As told in a mail send later than this list I did contact freddy who
seems to be busy at this time -
Paw is already "my editor" , as he is that of Strip! - and I did an
interview with someone for that fanzine - hopefully it will publish in
june.
ARI
> Roy:
That's Rob - it's funny how it's misread - even S?ren (SKO) misread it
the first time and was at a time mentioning Rob as Rob Roy or such (Rob
Roy is a national scottish hero - probably he had a friend in the
mcduck family)
Ari Seppi
Sorry Rob
Message 93 -
2002-05-10 at 09:01:54
Anders:
>ARI
> > Roy:
>That's Rob - it's funny how it's misread - even S?ren (SKO) misread it
>the first time and was at a time mentioning Rob as Rob Roy or such (Rob
>Roy is a national scottish hero - probably he had a friend in the
>mcduck family)
Argh! Sorry Rob, this is embarrassing.
Yes, of course, it's Rob. I knew it and thought I typed
it as Rob. I guess it's that when my brains thought they
were typing "Rob" my hands mixed "Rob" with
"Roy" (Kooijman).
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
>ARI
> > Roy:
>That's Rob - it's funny how it's misread - even S?ren (SKO) misread it
>the first time and was at a time mentioning Rob as Rob Roy or such (Rob
>Roy is a national scottish hero - probably he had a friend in the
>mcduck family)
Argh! Sorry Rob, this is embarrassing.
Yes, of course, it's Rob. I knew it and thought I typed
it as Rob. I guess it's that when my brains thought they
were typing "Rob" my hands mixed "Rob" with
"Roy" (Kooijman).
--
Ari Seppi (ari.seppi at iki.fi)
http://www.iki.fi/mani/
Winnie the Pooh is my great guru.
M. Mitchell Marmel
Collector WeaselsCollector Weasels
Message 94 -
2002-05-10 at 13:10:43
At 12:17 PM +0300 5/8/02, Kriton Kyrimis wrote:
>Am I the only one who would simply like to shake hands and have a brief
>chat with Don, and not ask for autographs or drawings?
It's metaphorical, mostly. :D I'd be happy just to chat, myself.
> > And I want you to inscribe in HUGE LETTERS ON THE FRONT OF EACH AND
>> EVERY ONE OF THEM BAD BOYS, "TO MITCH, DON ROSA."
>
>I'm showing off my ignorance here, but why would a dedication by Don
>decrease, rather than increase a comic book's value?
There's an old joke about the first day of school. The teacher says, "OK, kids, write your name on the front of your notebook." The collector weasel says "What? And ruin the resale value?"
The collector weasels only like discreet autographs on the inside cover. And it makes it tough to sell an Uncle $scrooge book to a speculator named, say, John if it says "To Mitch" on the cover.
A true comic lover won't mind, of course. I just want to confound the mercenary a-holes.
-MMM-
>Am I the only one who would simply like to shake hands and have a brief
>chat with Don, and not ask for autographs or drawings?
It's metaphorical, mostly. :D I'd be happy just to chat, myself.
> > And I want you to inscribe in HUGE LETTERS ON THE FRONT OF EACH AND
>> EVERY ONE OF THEM BAD BOYS, "TO MITCH, DON ROSA."
>
>I'm showing off my ignorance here, but why would a dedication by Don
>decrease, rather than increase a comic book's value?
There's an old joke about the first day of school. The teacher says, "OK, kids, write your name on the front of your notebook." The collector weasel says "What? And ruin the resale value?"
The collector weasels only like discreet autographs on the inside cover. And it makes it tough to sell an Uncle $scrooge book to a speculator named, say, John if it says "To Mitch" on the cover.
A true comic lover won't mind, of course. I just want to confound the mercenary a-holes.
-MMM-
Kriton Kyrimis
DCML digest, Vol 1 #922 - 7 msgs
Message 95 -
2002-05-10 at 14:18:20
DON:
> I often think this is
> all some elaborate practical joke being played on me, and everyone in
> Europe is in on it.
[He's on to us, guys!!!]
> It really makes me almost sweat blood to slowly draw in my *single*
> style while a Cavazanno or a Jippes can whip it out in 37 different styles
> in circles around me.
> ...
> Yeah... my wife the teacher retires in two weeks... and that idea seems
> sooo tempting. I have so many stories I want to yet tell, but... that seems
> sooo tempting.
If the temptation ever becomes too strong, would it make sense for someone
like Cavazzano to start drawing in a 38th style, so that you can still
tell your stories, or would it remove part of the fun of producing them?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"You can't do that; my survival is against the constitution!"
-----
> I often think this is
> all some elaborate practical joke being played on me, and everyone in
> Europe is in on it.
[He's on to us, guys!!!]
> It really makes me almost sweat blood to slowly draw in my *single*
> style while a Cavazanno or a Jippes can whip it out in 37 different styles
> in circles around me.
> ...
> Yeah... my wife the teacher retires in two weeks... and that idea seems
> sooo tempting. I have so many stories I want to yet tell, but... that seems
> sooo tempting.
If the temptation ever becomes too strong, would it make sense for someone
like Cavazzano to start drawing in a 38th style, so that you can still
tell your stories, or would it remove part of the fun of producing them?
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
-----
"You can't do that; my survival is against the constitution!"
-----
Don Rosa
DCML digest #922
Message 96 -
2002-05-10 at 14:25:49
From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
> When looking at the homepage for Danish Anders And &
> Co I discovered that the cover for AA&Co #19/2002
> seems to be flipped compared to its counterparts in
> Norway, Sweden and Finland.
> And what version is correct?
>>>The norwegian and other ones of course.
Actually, NO, not the Norwegian cover! That Danish cover is the one that is
flipped from my original, you're right... and there's not a thing wrong with
that. It's still the exact same picture, only in reverse. That doesn't
bother me.
But look again at the Norwegian cover. Don't you see something very... WEIRD
going on there?
Notice that there's a line of "anomaly" extending from the upper tip of that
toy football pic horizontally over to Gyro's left armpit... and Gyro's
entire body (including Helper) is *duplicated* from that point upwards. The
duplicate figure seems to be mostly hidden behind the logo, but you can see
it peeking out here and there... you see two sides on Gyro's face, two sets
of Helper legs, and (especially, since it is *not* hidden by the logo) Gyro
has two entire left arms and hands that join near his shoulder. The
overlapping duplicate in front of the logo is offset from the lower body by
a centimeter to the left... see how Gyro's back has a spot where he seems to
have a slipped disk?
Don't ask me what happened.
> When looking at the homepage for Danish Anders And &
> Co I discovered that the cover for AA&Co #19/2002
> seems to be flipped compared to its counterparts in
> Norway, Sweden and Finland.
> And what version is correct?
>>>The norwegian and other ones of course.
Actually, NO, not the Norwegian cover! That Danish cover is the one that is
flipped from my original, you're right... and there's not a thing wrong with
that. It's still the exact same picture, only in reverse. That doesn't
bother me.
But look again at the Norwegian cover. Don't you see something very... WEIRD
going on there?
Notice that there's a line of "anomaly" extending from the upper tip of that
toy football pic horizontally over to Gyro's left armpit... and Gyro's
entire body (including Helper) is *duplicated* from that point upwards. The
duplicate figure seems to be mostly hidden behind the logo, but you can see
it peeking out here and there... you see two sides on Gyro's face, two sets
of Helper legs, and (especially, since it is *not* hidden by the logo) Gyro
has two entire left arms and hands that join near his shoulder. The
overlapping duplicate in front of the logo is offset from the lower body by
a centimeter to the left... see how Gyro's back has a spot where he seems to
have a slipped disk?
Don't ask me what happened.
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Scrooge McDuck's Western Money Bin
Message 97 -
2002-05-10 at 14:40:45
"Fr. Franz" <ststephensmf at nls.net> skrev:
> The story "Hum On the Range" Uncle Donald and His
> Nephews Dude Ranch, No. 52, 1961 (A Dell Giant)
> mentions Scrooge's Western Money Bin, which is
> underground in an unspecified state. One panel
> shows the inside of the money bin. Does anyone
> know if there were every any other references to
> this Western Money Bin?
A check with the I.N.D.U.C.K.s datebase shows that
"Hum On the Range" is a Tony Strobl story. If you see
the Barks? Duck-universe as the ?true? one, and most
serious Donaldists do so, there are no reason,
whatsoever, to even consider this information as a
fact, if you can?t find support for it in any story by
Barks or his successor Don Rosa. Since all sources
about Scrooge and Duckburg are fiction they will often
be contradictory and thus they can?t all tell the
truth. It is for instance impossible to consider both
Lo$ by Don Rosa and the 50th anniversary Donald Duck
Story by Marco Rota as true, because their view about
who Scrooge is, differs totally.
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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> The story "Hum On the Range" Uncle Donald and His
> Nephews Dude Ranch, No. 52, 1961 (A Dell Giant)
> mentions Scrooge's Western Money Bin, which is
> underground in an unspecified state. One panel
> shows the inside of the money bin. Does anyone
> know if there were every any other references to
> this Western Money Bin?
A check with the I.N.D.U.C.K.s datebase shows that
"Hum On the Range" is a Tony Strobl story. If you see
the Barks? Duck-universe as the ?true? one, and most
serious Donaldists do so, there are no reason,
whatsoever, to even consider this information as a
fact, if you can?t find support for it in any story by
Barks or his successor Don Rosa. Since all sources
about Scrooge and Duckburg are fiction they will often
be contradictory and thus they can?t all tell the
truth. It is for instance impossible to consider both
Lo$ by Don Rosa and the 50th anniversary Donald Duck
Story by Marco Rota as true, because their view about
who Scrooge is, differs totally.
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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Message 98 -
2002-05-10 at 14:52:34
Sigvald Gr?sfjeld:
> If you see
> the Barks' Duck-universe as the "true" one, and most
> serious Donaldists do so, [..]
We have been through this before on DCML, but..
1. I don't think there is such a thing as a "serious Donaldist".
2. I see no reason why people would want to distinguish between "serious"
Donaldists and other people. To me that's an insult to the other people.
> there are no reason,
> whatsoever, to even consider this information as a
> fact, if you can't find support for it in any story by
> Barks or his successor Don Rosa.
3. Carl Barks has had many successors. Don Rosa is only one of them. The
fact that he was nearly chosen president of Finland doesn't make his stories
more valid than other people's.
4. Sure, it's fun to consider a consistent universe, looking at Barks and
Rosa stories only. But please don't tell other people that that's the *only*
"serious" (?) way to go.
--Harry.
> If you see
> the Barks' Duck-universe as the "true" one, and most
> serious Donaldists do so, [..]
We have been through this before on DCML, but..
1. I don't think there is such a thing as a "serious Donaldist".
2. I see no reason why people would want to distinguish between "serious"
Donaldists and other people. To me that's an insult to the other people.
> there are no reason,
> whatsoever, to even consider this information as a
> fact, if you can't find support for it in any story by
> Barks or his successor Don Rosa.
3. Carl Barks has had many successors. Don Rosa is only one of them. The
fact that he was nearly chosen president of Finland doesn't make his stories
more valid than other people's.
4. Sure, it's fun to consider a consistent universe, looking at Barks and
Rosa stories only. But please don't tell other people that that's the *only*
"serious" (?) way to go.
--Harry.
Sigvald Grøsfjeld Jr.
Scrooge McDuck's Western Money Bin
Message 99 -
2002-05-10 at 16:07:58
"Fluks, H.W." <H.W.Fluks at kpn.com> skrev:
>> If you see the Barks' Duck-universe as the
>> "true" one, and most serious Donaldists
>> do so, [..]
>
> We have been through this before on DCML, but..
Well, that was before I joined...
> 1. I don't think there is such a thing as a
> "serious Donaldist".
That off course depend on your definition of that
term. I like to see Donaldists as other groups in
society like politicians, scientists, historians, etc.
which include both serious and less seriuos elements.
Off course there will always be subjective views about
who is serious and who is not.
> 2. I see no reason why people would want to
> distinguish between "serious" Donaldists and
> other people. To me that's an insult
> to the other people.
Well people still distinguish between serious
politicians, scientists, historians, etc. and other
people without insulting anyone.
>> There are no reason, whatsoever, to even consider
>> this information as a fact, if you can't find
>> support for it in any story by Barks or his
>> successor Don Rosa.
>
> 3. Carl Barks has had many successors. Don Rosa
> is only one of them. The fact that he was nearly
> chosen president of Finland doesn't make his
> stories more valid than other people's.
What you're saying here is *not wrong*, but this is
actually a matter that can be discussed. Don't forget
that many publishers treat Don Rosa as if he indeed is
THE successor of Barks, and don't forget that many
publishers do mention it on the cover when they print
Don Rosa stories. In the cover of the last DD&Co
(19/2000) Don's signature is even larger than Walt
Disney's. Some countries (like Germany) even prints
separate Don Rosa albums.
> 4. Sure, it's fun to consider a consistent
> universe, looking at Barks and Rosa stories
> only. But please don't tell other people that
> that's the *only* "serious" (?) way to go.
And I didn't do that... I only said that that's the
most common way to go.
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>> If you see the Barks' Duck-universe as the
>> "true" one, and most serious Donaldists
>> do so, [..]
>
> We have been through this before on DCML, but..
Well, that was before I joined...
> 1. I don't think there is such a thing as a
> "serious Donaldist".
That off course depend on your definition of that
term. I like to see Donaldists as other groups in
society like politicians, scientists, historians, etc.
which include both serious and less seriuos elements.
Off course there will always be subjective views about
who is serious and who is not.
> 2. I see no reason why people would want to
> distinguish between "serious" Donaldists and
> other people. To me that's an insult
> to the other people.
Well people still distinguish between serious
politicians, scientists, historians, etc. and other
people without insulting anyone.
>> There are no reason, whatsoever, to even consider
>> this information as a fact, if you can't find
>> support for it in any story by Barks or his
>> successor Don Rosa.
>
> 3. Carl Barks has had many successors. Don Rosa
> is only one of them. The fact that he was nearly
> chosen president of Finland doesn't make his
> stories more valid than other people's.
What you're saying here is *not wrong*, but this is
actually a matter that can be discussed. Don't forget
that many publishers treat Don Rosa as if he indeed is
THE successor of Barks, and don't forget that many
publishers do mention it on the cover when they print
Don Rosa stories. In the cover of the last DD&Co
(19/2000) Don's signature is even larger than Walt
Disney's. Some countries (like Germany) even prints
separate Don Rosa albums.
> 4. Sure, it's fun to consider a consistent
> universe, looking at Barks and Rosa stories
> only. But please don't tell other people that
> that's the *only* "serious" (?) way to go.
And I didn't do that... I only said that that's the
most common way to go.
Best regards from
Sigvald :-)
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Message 100 -
2002-05-10 at 16:52:24
Sigvald:
> > We have been through this before on DCML, but..
> Well, that was before I joined...
Yes, it was in the years that you were on Internet, but decided not to join
DCML.
> > 1. I don't think there is such a thing as a
> > "serious Donaldist".
>
> That off course depend on your definition of that
> term.
Okay. Let's assume there is something like a serious Donaldist.
> > 2. I see no reason why people would want to
> > distinguish between "serious" Donaldists and
> > other people. To me that's an insult
> > to the other people.
>
> Well people still distinguish between serious
> politicians, scientists, historians, etc. and other
> people without insulting anyone.
But your distinction is different. Saying "Most serious Donaldists only
consider Barks (and Rosa)" is at the same level as "Most serious literature
analysts do not consider comics". Or "comics is no serious literature".
If you want to define a term like "serious Donaldist", I want to be called a
serious Donaldist. Even though I *don't* stop my analyses at Barks or Rosa
stories. If you then say that such analyses should not be taken seriously,
then yes, that's an insult. (But don't take the word "insult" in this
conversation too seriously...)
> > 3. Carl Barks has had many successors. Don Rosa
> > is only one of them.
> What you're saying here is *not wrong*, but this is
> actually a matter that can be discussed. Don't forget
> that many publishers treat Don Rosa as if he indeed is
> THE successor of Barks, and don't forget that many
> publishers do mention it on the cover when they print
> Don Rosa stories. In the cover of the last DD&Co
> (19/2000)
Did they stop 2 years ago? 8-)
> Don's signature is even larger than Walt
> Disney's. Some countries (like Germany) even prints
> separate Don Rosa albums.
Many countries have printed albun series of other artists than Barks or
Rosa. And even many years before Rosa became popular.
One thing one needs to consider is that in older times, names of creators
(other than Disney) were not allowed on the cover of a Disney comic (or
anywhere in the comic, in fact). Don just happens to be working in a time
where such things *are* possible.
And yes, Rosa *is* one of the most popular Disney comics creators of this
moment. And rightfully so.
> > But please don't tell other people that
> > that's the *only* "serious" (?) way to go.
> And I didn't do that...
Technically, no. But writing "most serious Donaldists do X" strongly
suggests "anyone not doing X is not a serious Donaldist".
My only point is that there's more in Disney comics than just Barks and
Rosa.
--Harry.
> > We have been through this before on DCML, but..
> Well, that was before I joined...
Yes, it was in the years that you were on Internet, but decided not to join
DCML.
> > 1. I don't think there is such a thing as a
> > "serious Donaldist".
>
> That off course depend on your definition of that
> term.
Okay. Let's assume there is something like a serious Donaldist.
> > 2. I see no reason why people would want to
> > distinguish between "serious" Donaldists and
> > other people. To me that's an insult
> > to the other people.
>
> Well people still distinguish between serious
> politicians, scientists, historians, etc. and other
> people without insulting anyone.
But your distinction is different. Saying "Most serious Donaldists only
consider Barks (and Rosa)" is at the same level as "Most serious literature
analysts do not consider comics". Or "comics is no serious literature".
If you want to define a term like "serious Donaldist", I want to be called a
serious Donaldist. Even though I *don't* stop my analyses at Barks or Rosa
stories. If you then say that such analyses should not be taken seriously,
then yes, that's an insult. (But don't take the word "insult" in this
conversation too seriously...)
> > 3. Carl Barks has had many successors. Don Rosa
> > is only one of them.
> What you're saying here is *not wrong*, but this is
> actually a matter that can be discussed. Don't forget
> that many publishers treat Don Rosa as if he indeed is
> THE successor of Barks, and don't forget that many
> publishers do mention it on the cover when they print
> Don Rosa stories. In the cover of the last DD&Co
> (19/2000)
Did they stop 2 years ago? 8-)
> Don's signature is even larger than Walt
> Disney's. Some countries (like Germany) even prints
> separate Don Rosa albums.
Many countries have printed albun series of other artists than Barks or
Rosa. And even many years before Rosa became popular.
One thing one needs to consider is that in older times, names of creators
(other than Disney) were not allowed on the cover of a Disney comic (or
anywhere in the comic, in fact). Don just happens to be working in a time
where such things *are* possible.
And yes, Rosa *is* one of the most popular Disney comics creators of this
moment. And rightfully so.
> > But please don't tell other people that
> > that's the *only* "serious" (?) way to go.
> And I didn't do that...
Technically, no. But writing "most serious Donaldists do X" strongly
suggests "anyone not doing X is not a serious Donaldist".
My only point is that there's more in Disney comics than just Barks and
Rosa.
--Harry.
Didier Ghez
Don : Why are you so popular ?
Message 101 -
2002-05-10 at 17:48:17
Don,
I your recent post on the list you are wondering why you are so popular. I believe the reason is obvious. You have one thing in comon with Barks : you are a GREAT storyteller.
It does not matter that your art is far from being the best around, that you don't have the artist training and blablabla.
What matters is that your scripts are way, way above those of the other Disney artists and that therefore your stories can't be forgotten.
Which actually makes me wonder (especially if you would like to improve your revenues) why you do not start selling scripts that others would draw in parrallell to writting and drawing stories.
Didier
I your recent post on the list you are wondering why you are so popular. I believe the reason is obvious. You have one thing in comon with Barks : you are a GREAT storyteller.
It does not matter that your art is far from being the best around, that you don't have the artist training and blablabla.
What matters is that your scripts are way, way above those of the other Disney artists and that therefore your stories can't be forgotten.
Which actually makes me wonder (especially if you would like to improve your revenues) why you do not start selling scripts that others would draw in parrallell to writting and drawing stories.
Didier
Didier Ghez
Mickey pages on ebay from 1931
Message 102 -
2002-05-10 at 19:14:38
I just found this out on ebay and was wondering if anyone has an idea of what those amazing pages could be :
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2101993493
Have they been printed in one of the Mickey Mouse Annuals ?
The dealer tells me that only the coloring is original but that the pages are printed. This really puzzles me.
Didier
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2101993493
Have they been printed in one of the Mickey Mouse Annuals ?
The dealer tells me that only the coloring is original but that the pages are printed. This really puzzles me.
Didier
The Fenske's
Don : Why are you so popular ?
Message 103 -
2002-05-10 at 19:15:30
Don,
I've heard you express similar sentiments many times over the years, about
your art being below that of many other artists. And while I am in full
agreement with Didier below about the quality of your stories, I have a
small confession to make that perhaps also applies to many of your European
fans (I'm a poor Canadian fan who hasn't read a Rosa story in several
years... sniff).
OK. Here goes.
I like your art.
When I first started re-reading comics as an adult, the first few comics I
bought (for my kids, but I read them too) were some of the Disney comic
runs back between the two Gladstone runs. I think the first story of
yours I read was Return to Xanadu, soon followed by Treasure under
Glass. Aside from the excellent storytelling, I was impressed by the
wonderfully detailed art. And, over the years, I became convinced that you
were one of the best duck artists around. For your art, not just the stories.
There you go. I guess some of us just aren't that artistically astute, and
don't realize that we shouldn't like your art as much as we do. But I for
one would be sad to see your stories go to the pens of other artists.
Back to lurker mode....
David Fenske
At 04:48 PM 5/10/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Don,
>
>I your recent post on the list you are wondering why you are so popular. I
>believe the reason is obvious. You have one thing in comon with Barks :
>you are a GREAT storyteller.
>
>It does not matter that your art is far from being the best around, that
>you don't have the artist training and blablabla.
>
>What matters is that your scripts are way, way above those of the other
>Disney artists and that therefore your stories can't be forgotten.
>
>Which actually makes me wonder (especially if you would like to improve
>your revenues) why you do not start selling scripts that others would draw
>in parrallell to writting and drawing stories.
>
>Didier
I've heard you express similar sentiments many times over the years, about
your art being below that of many other artists. And while I am in full
agreement with Didier below about the quality of your stories, I have a
small confession to make that perhaps also applies to many of your European
fans (I'm a poor Canadian fan who hasn't read a Rosa story in several
years... sniff).
OK. Here goes.
I like your art.
When I first started re-reading comics as an adult, the first few comics I
bought (for my kids, but I read them too) were some of the Disney comic
runs back between the two Gladstone runs. I think the first story of
yours I read was Return to Xanadu, soon followed by Treasure under
Glass. Aside from the excellent storytelling, I was impressed by the
wonderfully detailed art. And, over the years, I became convinced that you
were one of the best duck artists around. For your art, not just the stories.
There you go. I guess some of us just aren't that artistically astute, and
don't realize that we shouldn't like your art as much as we do. But I for
one would be sad to see your stories go to the pens of other artists.
Back to lurker mode....
David Fenske
At 04:48 PM 5/10/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Don,
>
>I your recent post on the list you are wondering why you are so popular. I
>believe the reason is obvious. You have one thing in comon with Barks :
>you are a GREAT storyteller.
>
>It does not matter that your art is far from being the best around, that
>you don't have the artist training and blablabla.
>
>What matters is that your scripts are way, way above those of the other
>Disney artists and that therefore your stories can't be forgotten.
>
>Which actually makes me wonder (especially if you would like to improve
>your revenues) why you do not start selling scripts that others would draw
>in parrallell to writting and drawing stories.
>
>Didier
Stefan Persson
DCML digest #922
Message 104 -
2002-05-10 at 21:12:09
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 10 maj 2002 13:25
Subject: Re: DCML digest #922
> From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
> > When looking at the homepage for Danish Anders And &
> > Co I discovered that the cover for AA&Co #19/2002
> > seems to be flipped compared to its counterparts in
> > Norway, Sweden and Finland.
> > And what version is correct?
> >>>The norwegian and other ones of course.
>
> Actually, NO, not the Norwegian cover! That Danish cover is the one that
is
> flipped from my original, you're right... and there's not a thing wrong
with
> that. It's still the exact same picture, only in reverse. That doesn't
> bother me.
Well, the D.U.C.K. dedication will also be mirrored, making it more
difficult to spot... The Swedish cover was cut so that the K and part of the
C in that dedication were lost. Is it fully readable in the other versions?
Stefan
From: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 10 maj 2002 13:25
Subject: Re: DCML digest #922
> From: "Anders Christian Sivebaek" <acsive at mail.mira.dk>
> > When looking at the homepage for Danish Anders And &
> > Co I discovered that the cover for AA&Co #19/2002
> > seems to be flipped compared to its counterparts in
> > Norway, Sweden and Finland.
> > And what version is correct?
> >>>The norwegian and other ones of course.
>
> Actually, NO, not the Norwegian cover! That Danish cover is the one that
is
> flipped from my original, you're right... and there's not a thing wrong
with
> that. It's still the exact same picture, only in reverse. That doesn't
> bother me.
Well, the D.U.C.K. dedication will also be mirrored, making it more
difficult to spot... The Swedish cover was cut so that the K and part of the
C in that dedication were lost. Is it fully readable in the other versions?
Stefan
99E
Why are you so popular ?
Message 105 -
2002-05-10 at 22:07:52
Didier wrote:
"Don,
I your recent post on the list you are wondering why you are so popular. I believe the reason is obvious. You have one thing in comon with Barks : you are a GREAT storyteller."
-And I agree. No doubt, Don Rosa is a great storyteller. As long as it comes to longer adventurestories - Barks, Rosa and Rota are, IMHO, the greatest tellers...
Lots of other folk write great scripts for shorter stories - but not as consistently as the three mentioned above.
Didier again:
"why you do not start selling scripts that others would draw in parrallell to writting and drawing stories. "
-Please. Don't. Do NOT stop drawing your stories. I cannot imagine Barks stories drawn by e.g. Vicar or Branca - as well as I cannot imagine a Rosa-story without the special Rosa-art - which I like and admire.
99E
----- Original Message -----
From: Didier Ghez
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: Don : Why are you so popular ?
Don,
I your recent post on the list you are wondering why you are so popular. I believe the reason is obvious. You have one thing in comon with Barks : you are a GREAT storyteller.
It does not matter that your art is far from being the best around, that you don't have the artist training and blablabla.
What matters is that your scripts are way, way above those of the other Disney artists and that therefore your stories can't be forgotten.
Which actually makes me wonder (especially if you would like to improve your revenues) why you do not start selling scripts that others would draw in parrallell to writting and drawing stories.
Didier
"Don,
I your recent post on the list you are wondering why you are so popular. I believe the reason is obvious. You have one thing in comon with Barks : you are a GREAT storyteller."
-And I agree. No doubt, Don Rosa is a great storyteller. As long as it comes to longer adventurestories - Barks, Rosa and Rota are, IMHO, the greatest tellers...
Lots of other folk write great scripts for shorter stories - but not as consistently as the three mentioned above.
Didier again:
"why you do not start selling scripts that others would draw in parrallell to writting and drawing stories. "
-Please. Don't. Do NOT stop drawing your stories. I cannot imagine Barks stories drawn by e.g. Vicar or Branca - as well as I cannot imagine a Rosa-story without the special Rosa-art - which I like and admire.
99E
----- Original Message -----
From: Didier Ghez
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 4:48 PM
Subject: Don : Why are you so popular ?
Don,
I your recent post on the list you are wondering why you are so popular. I believe the reason is obvious. You have one thing in comon with Barks : you are a GREAT storyteller.
It does not matter that your art is far from being the best around, that you don't have the artist training and blablabla.
What matters is that your scripts are way, way above those of the other Disney artists and that therefore your stories can't be forgotten.
Which actually makes me wonder (especially if you would like to improve your revenues) why you do not start selling scripts that others would draw in parrallell to writting and drawing stories.
Didier