>From: Theresa Wiegert:
>Has the lightbulb always been a lightbulb? But in the old days little
>helpers head
>looked more like a hmm. an electrical component (tube,
>perhaps?)
>(elektronrör in swedish,
You might be right indeed. Electron tube it is, I think, in English. I'm not
electrician either but to me at least in those older comics Helper's head
looks very much like an electron tube.
>some stuff inside as well. Those things could be quite large, I think.
Last electron tube we still have in use is a television tube.
Timo
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Timo Ronkainen
Little helper and his lightbulb
Message 211 -
2002-05-22 at 17:15:22
Simo Malinen
Don Rosa's Duck Family Tree
Message 212 -
2002-05-22 at 18:09:21
SIGVALD:
>Don Rosa's Duck Family Tree
>b) The I.N.D.U.C.K.S. / COA pages operate with various
>codes for this piece of work. And the D-code don't
>even start with the actual year (93) it was done. So
>what is the correct code(s) and why?
>
D 11221 2 Donald Duck Family Tree -
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/D+11221//family_+tree_
You ask why Don Rosa's Duck family tree isn't having a D-code
like "D 93nnn"?
Basicly in the 1970's and the 80's Danish (Egmont) stories
and covers had "running code numbers", like for example:
D 6848 is a story (about 1983)
D 6849 is a cover
D 6850 is an other story
...
These code numbers weren't related to any year numbers. (And yes,
even covers are having D-codes, you can find them from INDUCKS/COA.)
In 1988 (or so) this coding method was changed. After that:
- *stories* were given those D-year-codes (D 88001, D 98405, D 2000-202,
...)
- covers, gamepages and illustrations were still given
D-running-number-codes (like D 10970, D 12715, D 14185, ...)
At this moment the most recent covers and games are having
D-codes such as D 17146. So Don Rosa's Duck family tree isn't having
a code like "D 93nnn" because it isn't a comic story (atleast in
the traditional way).
- Simo
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>Don Rosa's Duck Family Tree
>b) The I.N.D.U.C.K.S. / COA pages operate with various
>codes for this piece of work. And the D-code don't
>even start with the actual year (93) it was done. So
>what is the correct code(s) and why?
>
D 11221 2 Donald Duck Family Tree -
http://coa.duckburg.dk/coa/c1/story.php/0/D+11221//family_+tree_
You ask why Don Rosa's Duck family tree isn't having a D-code
like "D 93nnn"?
Basicly in the 1970's and the 80's Danish (Egmont) stories
and covers had "running code numbers", like for example:
D 6848 is a story (about 1983)
D 6849 is a cover
D 6850 is an other story
...
These code numbers weren't related to any year numbers. (And yes,
even covers are having D-codes, you can find them from INDUCKS/COA.)
In 1988 (or so) this coding method was changed. After that:
- *stories* were given those D-year-codes (D 88001, D 98405, D 2000-202,
...)
- covers, gamepages and illustrations were still given
D-running-number-codes (like D 10970, D 12715, D 14185, ...)
At this moment the most recent covers and games are having
D-codes such as D 17146. So Don Rosa's Duck family tree isn't having
a code like "D 93nnn" because it isn't a comic story (atleast in
the traditional way).
- Simo
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JW logo - and the real world
Message 213 -
2002-05-22 at 18:11:41
Take a look at these:
http://www.geocities.com/gearlost/122jw.htm
The first scan is from a Barks' JW story "Whaling whalers"
(redrawn by Daan Jippes)
The second scan is from the titlepage of a book published
by "John Wiley & Sons, Inc."...
Barks himself used "WJW"-logo instead of "JW"-logo - but the
logo of John Wiley & Sons' is still quite surprising, and it could
be even older than JW's whole organization (in our real world).
I think I saw a much much older book from with this same logo
some-five years ago.
Was Carl Barks wear of John Wiley & Sons' logo when he created
Junior Woodchuck's and their logo? John Wiley & Sons' is a company
printing atleast text books for educational purposes.
Would John Wiley & Sons be pleased about finding their business
logo from the cover of Junior Woodchuck's all knowing guide book?
- Simo
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http://www.geocities.com/gearlost/122jw.htm
The first scan is from a Barks' JW story "Whaling whalers"
(redrawn by Daan Jippes)
The second scan is from the titlepage of a book published
by "John Wiley & Sons, Inc."...
Barks himself used "WJW"-logo instead of "JW"-logo - but the
logo of John Wiley & Sons' is still quite surprising, and it could
be even older than JW's whole organization (in our real world).
I think I saw a much much older book from with this same logo
some-five years ago.
Was Carl Barks wear of John Wiley & Sons' logo when he created
Junior Woodchuck's and their logo? John Wiley & Sons' is a company
printing atleast text books for educational purposes.
Would John Wiley & Sons be pleased about finding their business
logo from the cover of Junior Woodchuck's all knowing guide book?
- Simo
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Frank Stajano
JW logo - and the real world
Message 214 -
2002-05-22 at 18:38:11
[Simo notes the similarity between the Junior Woodchucks logo and the Wiley
logo.]
Simo, this is BRILLIANT! I never noticed it but now that you make me see
it, I love it!
At 2002-05-22 16:11, Simo Malinen wrote:
>Was Carl Barks wear of John Wiley & Sons' logo when he created
>Junior Woodchuck's and their logo? John Wiley & Sons' is a company
>printing atleast text books for educational purposes.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but it's still cute.
Talking of coincidences: my latest book, unlike my two previous ones, has
nothing to do with comics, since it talks about security for computerized
gizmos. It has, however, a prominent dedication to Carl Barks, credited as
the inventor of the inventor Gyro Gearloose (a topical character when
speaking of computerized gizmos). And, as you must have guessed by now, it
sports the JW logo in the top-right corner because it's published by Wiley!
See it at http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/secubicomp .
Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/
logo.]
Simo, this is BRILLIANT! I never noticed it but now that you make me see
it, I love it!
At 2002-05-22 16:11, Simo Malinen wrote:
>Was Carl Barks wear of John Wiley & Sons' logo when he created
>Junior Woodchuck's and their logo? John Wiley & Sons' is a company
>printing atleast text books for educational purposes.
I'm sure it's just a coincidence, but it's still cute.
Talking of coincidences: my latest book, unlike my two previous ones, has
nothing to do with comics, since it talks about security for computerized
gizmos. It has, however, a prominent dedication to Carl Barks, credited as
the inventor of the inventor Gyro Gearloose (a topical character when
speaking of computerized gizmos). And, as you must have guessed by now, it
sports the JW logo in the top-right corner because it's published by Wiley!
See it at http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/secubicomp .
Frank (filologo disneyano) http://www-lce.eng.cam.ac.uk/~fms27/
Donald Ault
Carl Barks in the National Geographic
Message 215 -
2002-05-22 at 21:03:05
I haven't been monitoring the list lately, so this may be old news, but the
latest issue of National Geographic has a one-page article on Carl's use of
National Geographic images in his comics. The article juxtaposes a couple of
scenes from The Mummy's Ring with their National Geographic sources and
contains several comments by Bruce Hamilton.
Donald Ault
Professor of English
University of Florida
ault at ufl.edu
http://www.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/
latest issue of National Geographic has a one-page article on Carl's use of
National Geographic images in his comics. The article juxtaposes a couple of
scenes from The Mummy's Ring with their National Geographic sources and
contains several comments by Bruce Hamilton.
Donald Ault
Professor of English
University of Florida
ault at ufl.edu
http://www.nwe.ufl.edu/~donault/
Michael Rhode
Barks in National Geographic
Message 216 -
2002-05-22 at 21:04:57
I haven't seen it yet, but my wife says the June National Geographic finally
has the little piece on Barks and his use of the NG magazine. It's a
1-pager in 'Behind the Scenes' at the beginning of the magazine.
Mike Rhode
mrhode at hotmail.com
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has the little piece on Barks and his use of the NG magazine. It's a
1-pager in 'Behind the Scenes' at the beginning of the magazine.
Mike Rhode
mrhode at hotmail.com
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Erik Horthe
Sonny Seagull
Message 217 -
2002-05-22 at 22:05:56
Donalds Nephews have a friend who lives alone. In English his name is Sonny
Seagull, Tobben in Norwegian and (I think) Folke Fiskm?s in Swedish. I need
his name in Danish, Finnish, German, Greek, Spanish, French, Italian and
Portugese. Can anyone help?
Erik Horthe
Seagull, Tobben in Norwegian and (I think) Folke Fiskm?s in Swedish. I need
his name in Danish, Finnish, German, Greek, Spanish, French, Italian and
Portugese. Can anyone help?
Erik Horthe
Stefan Persson
VIRUS FROM DON!!!
Message 218 -
2002-05-22 at 22:31:32
----- Original Message -----
From: "Frank Stajano" <fms27 at cam.ac.uk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 21 maj 2002 19:55
Subject: Re: VIRUS FROM DON!!!
> At 2002-05-21 16:19, Stefan Persson wrote:
> >I just received a virus from Don Rosa:
>
> Lucky you! Is it autographed? Maybe you could resell it on ebay as a
> collectible and make a bunch :-)
Damn, I deleted it! I should have known better...! 8-)
Stefan
From: "Frank Stajano" <fms27 at cam.ac.uk>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 21 maj 2002 19:55
Subject: Re: VIRUS FROM DON!!!
> At 2002-05-21 16:19, Stefan Persson wrote:
> >I just received a virus from Don Rosa:
>
> Lucky you! Is it autographed? Maybe you could resell it on ebay as a
> collectible and make a bunch :-)
Damn, I deleted it! I should have known better...! 8-)
Stefan
Michael Rhode
Barks in National Geographic
Message 219 -
2002-05-22 at 22:51:21
BTW, judging from an email from Steve Rowe on this topic that hotmail hasn't
purged on me, I was researching this in Sept 2000 for my wife to pitch to
the editors. So it's taken about 1 1/2 years to get a tribute to Barks in
there. Their English circulation is 7.8 million so quite a few people will
hear about him now.
Mike Rhode
mrhode at hotmail.com
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purged on me, I was researching this in Sept 2000 for my wife to pitch to
the editors. So it's taken about 1 1/2 years to get a tribute to Barks in
there. Their English circulation is 7.8 million so quite a few people will
hear about him now.
Mike Rhode
mrhode at hotmail.com
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#938
Message 220 -
2002-05-22 at 23:20:07
Hi all
>
>From: "Donald Ault" <ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu>
>
>I haven't been monitoring the list lately, so this may be old news, but
>the
>latest issue of National Geographic has a one-page article on Carl's use
>of
>National Geographic images in his comics. The article juxtaposes a couple
>of
>scenes from The Mummy's Ring with their National Geographic sources and
>contains several comments by Bruce Hamilton.
No, this was new news -
>
>From: "Michael Rhode" <mrhode at hotmail.com>
And Michael tells us too. - Could one who has the gear please make a scan
or tell me where to get hold of this issue?
Would be very nice to have as a scan or in real life.
>
Frank:
>> Lucky you! Is it autographed? Maybe you could resell it on ebay as a
>> collectible and make a bunch :-)
Stefan
>
>Damn, I deleted it! I should have known better...! 8-)
LOL...
Put the virus in a frame and sell it - yeah figger that :-)
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
>
>From: "Donald Ault" <ault at nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu>
>
>I haven't been monitoring the list lately, so this may be old news, but
>the
>latest issue of National Geographic has a one-page article on Carl's use
>of
>National Geographic images in his comics. The article juxtaposes a couple
>of
>scenes from The Mummy's Ring with their National Geographic sources and
>contains several comments by Bruce Hamilton.
No, this was new news -
>
>From: "Michael Rhode" <mrhode at hotmail.com>
And Michael tells us too. - Could one who has the gear please make a scan
or tell me where to get hold of this issue?
Would be very nice to have as a scan or in real life.
>
Frank:
>> Lucky you! Is it autographed? Maybe you could resell it on ebay as a
>> collectible and make a bunch :-)
Stefan
>
>Damn, I deleted it! I should have known better...! 8-)
LOL...
Put the virus in a frame and sell it - yeah figger that :-)
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Kriton Kyrimis
In need of help from our Greek friends at DCML
Message 221 -
2002-05-23 at 09:08:06
SIGVALD:
> However, due to my lack of ability to read and
> transcript the Greek alphabet I haven't been able to
> include such a post for the Greek version. I now hope
> that any of my greek friends here can help me with
> this.
Have a look at the bottom part of
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/greek/greek_names_orig.html (Requires a Greek
font) or http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/greek/greek_names.html (doesn't).
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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-----
> However, due to my lack of ability to read and
> transcript the Greek alphabet I haven't been able to
> include such a post for the Greek version. I now hope
> that any of my greek friends here can help me with
> this.
Have a look at the bottom part of
http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/greek/greek_names_orig.html (Requires a Greek
font) or http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/greek/greek_names.html (doesn't).
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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Kriton Kyrimis
Virus "Kleez"
Message 222 -
2002-05-23 at 09:23:36
DAN:
> my son has learned a valuable object lesson at YOUR expense
I hope he'll soon be able to sit down again! :-)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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isn't one of them."
-----
> my son has learned a valuable object lesson at YOUR expense
I hope he'll soon be able to sit down again! :-)
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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The underground in Calisota
Message 223 -
2002-05-23 at 09:37:01
Hi!
What does the underground in Calisota contain?
Best wishes,
Søren
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What does the underground in Calisota contain?
Best wishes,
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Greek names
Message 224 -
2002-05-23 at 10:16:54
>From: Kriton Kyrimis:
>Have a look at the bottom part of
>http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/greek/greek_names_orig.html (Requires a Greek
>font)
Looks like I have one.
Great list. Now it would be interesting to know what some names are when
translatesd back to English. Most of them seems to be direct
translitterations, but what for example Beagle Boy's old name Symmoria ton
Lykon is in English? Or they current name Mourgolykoi?
Timo
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>Have a look at the bottom part of
>http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis/greek/greek_names_orig.html (Requires a Greek
>font)
Looks like I have one.
Great list. Now it would be interesting to know what some names are when
translatesd back to English. Most of them seems to be direct
translitterations, but what for example Beagle Boy's old name Symmoria ton
Lykon is in English? Or they current name Mourgolykoi?
Timo
^^''*''^^
Cartoonist - writer - donaldist -
Timo Ronkainen ---------------- -
YO-kylä 52 A 26 --------------- -
20540 Turku ------------------- -
Finland ----------------------- -
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Kriton Kyrimis
Greek names
Message 225 -
2002-05-23 at 13:15:45
TIMO:
> but what for example Beagle Boy's old name Symmoria ton
> Lykon is in English? Or they current name Mourgolykoi?
Symmoria ton Lykon = Wolf gang
Mourgolykoi = sheep-dog wolves / bumpkin wolves
The old name is on par with Barks' original name, while the new name does
not make much sense in Greek, either! From what someone once told me,
they once held a poll on whether they should change the Beagles' name
from "Lykoi" (wolves) to "Mourgoi" (meaning sheep-dogs, I guess). The
result was suspiciously close to 50-50, so they compromised by combining
both names into one. If this story is true, and the poll had not been
rigged to justify the new name, then perhaps they wanted to get closer
to Barks' original name, by using the name of a kind of dog. [I don't
think that there is a word for "beagle" in Greek, and the associations
one would make with the second meaning of the word "mourgos" (bumpkin)
might actually have been an improvement on Barks' name.]
In any case, the Greek name of the Beagle Boys will always be "Lykoi" for
me.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
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> but what for example Beagle Boy's old name Symmoria ton
> Lykon is in English? Or they current name Mourgolykoi?
Symmoria ton Lykon = Wolf gang
Mourgolykoi = sheep-dog wolves / bumpkin wolves
The old name is on par with Barks' original name, while the new name does
not make much sense in Greek, either! From what someone once told me,
they once held a poll on whether they should change the Beagles' name
from "Lykoi" (wolves) to "Mourgoi" (meaning sheep-dogs, I guess). The
result was suspiciously close to 50-50, so they compromised by combining
both names into one. If this story is true, and the poll had not been
rigged to justify the new name, then perhaps they wanted to get closer
to Barks' original name, by using the name of a kind of dog. [I don't
think that there is a word for "beagle" in Greek, and the associations
one would make with the second meaning of the word "mourgos" (bumpkin)
might actually have been an improvement on Barks' name.]
In any case, the Greek name of the Beagle Boys will always be "Lykoi" for
me.
Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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