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ERIK

> Subject: Sonny Seagull
> Donalds Nephews have a friend who lives alone. In English his name is
Sonny
> Seagull, Tobben in Norwegian and (I think) Folke Fiskm?s in Swedish.
I need
> his name in Danish,
Max M?ge (Seagull is exactly that - M?ge)
I like this character - especially when he runs around at the train
station - as a
child I too had that weakness for trains, especially steam (veteran
trains).
Branca is very good at drawing him - he has that special style that
fits Sonny very much.

> Finnish, German, Greek, Spanish, French, Italian and
> Portugese. Can anyone help?
I'm afraid I can't help on the others - though I might very well have
read stories with him
in german, as I subscribe. others can help.

AC

1. So why are people called "Dutch" who are from "Holland" / "The Netherlands"? Why are they
not called "Hollanders" or "Netherlanders"

2. My internal mental model of the Barks Universe as it pertains to the ducks:
The Money Bin has evolved and been remodeled/rebuilt countless times in reponse to the many
attempts by the Beagle Boys and others to breach its defenses.

In the story where the Bin is moved about on a giant tractor, he at one point threatens to buy
the whole city of Duckburg and move it to Madagascar. Perhaps the City did move on a few
occasions, which may explain the varying apparent locales in several stories. This could also be
due to floods, hurricanes or other natural disasters. Perhaps Duckburg's parallel universe
planet is experiencing accelerated global warming and the climate is undergoing rapid
fluctuation, accounting for some of the variations we see.

Unca Carl only gave us some of the highlights of the complete saga, within the time, political
and financial constraints he was compelled to operate within. It is up to us to fill in the
blanks, such as they are.

From: "Theresa Wiegert"
> Exactly my point! But only Bradbury stories? In my memory, Little Helpers
> head has been pointy a loong time. And when I look at pictures of tubes, I
> always see little helpers head.... Here for
> instance: http://w1.871.telia.com/~u87127077/triod/index.htm#4in1
> There are lots of strange ones of course, but lots of potential
> helperheads as well.

What a beautiful page for lamps. :-)
Some italians use also:
- Philips DVI (D6);
- Philips B6 and,
in the cover of this issue Alessio Coppola use Telefunken RE83

What a stupid thing!
Helper is ONLY 4 in 1.

Francesco

I'm forwarding this email in a hurry. I've snipped the sender's
email address. Apart from this, I don't know anything more about
the sender and the contents of his email.

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Van: Vince
Onderwerp: barks page
Datum: zaterdag 25 mei 2002 8:08

Sorry to see that you haven't had time to work on the barks page
lately. Good luck on getting back to it.

I'm actually writing today because I, too, have had no opportunity to
work on my own long planned Barks page, and have thus decided to give up
the domain name for carlbarks.net that I reserved in anticipation of
tjhe propsed site.

If you're interested, or no someone who might be able to make a go of
it using that domain, please point them to the ebay auction at:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2106455935

Thanks for your interest.
Vince

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Greetings, fellow Donaldists, Mickeyists and Barksists!

For Sigvald, regarding Gyro's Inventor's Prize:

In US Nr. 27 (Sept.-Nov. 1959), "The Firefly Tracker" by Barks, Gyro won First
Prize at "Duckburg's Inventors' Congress". Although that Congress was held in
Duckburg, and clearly sponsored by Duckburgian representatives, - it was open
to the "Best Minds in the World". Its promoters told Gyro to do his best
to "Bring honour, renown and World fame to Duckburg".

For Theresa, regarding Gyro's Helper's head:

Carl Barks introduced "Helper" and gave him his first appearance in US Nr.14
(Sept.-Nov. 1956)(story about noisy cats and Gyro's Language Translator).
Helper was drawn by Barks from the very first, as a "semi-roundish", apparantly
clear, apparantly thin-glassed bulb, with a light filament, and a small point
at the top. This makes it very clear to me that he meant it to be a simple
light bulb, and NOT a vacuum tube. The light filament is the squiggly line
inside the tube (which is supposed to be a thin copper? wire conductor). Vacuum
tubes usually had many more and larger parts visible (in clear tubes, and
nothing visable in the common "frosted tubes"). Anodes, cathodes, control
grids, transistors, etc. were visible through clear vacuum tubes; whereas, all
that would be visible (in most cases)in the ordinary light bulb would have been
the wire filament. Although vacuum tubes came in all shapes and sizes
(sometimes even faintly reminiscent of light bulbs), they generally were
cylinderical and longer, or much fatter, or larger at the tops. They almost
always looked very different from the ordinary light bulb Barks attempted to
portray. Very convincing evidence that Barks intended Helper's head to be a
simple light bulb is the threaded screw-in node on the bottom of the bulb. It
is the old North American fitting that works together with the old North
American setting that holds light bulbs into electric lamps. I have been
around since the 1940s, during the last part of the heyday of Vacuum Tubes. I
seem to remember that they generally had vertical prongs protruding out of
their bottoms, which fit into small, rectangular or round holes in a fitting
terminal(which has since been replaced with a circuitboard). Vacuum tubes did
not have the screw-in style, threaded fittings that ordinary light bulbs had.
If this is not enough circumstantial evidence for you, I have even more
compelling evidence. Carl, himself, admitted to me, upon my suggestive
question, that the light bulb head was inspired by the old comic strip
conventional symbolic use of a light bulb flashing above the head of a
character when he came up with a great idea.

Actually, logic tells me that the vacuum tube might have worked better! It
controls electron flow to amplify radio waves and change from alternating to
direct current. This might be thought of as Helper's "thinking process" moreso
than just the heating of electrons on his lightbulb filament and the giving off
of electrons to make the light. But, I guess either of the two types of bulbs
could be considered "reasonable" for Helper's head. We must consider that
Helper can function to a certain degree WITHOUT his head attached. When it
broke, and when the filament burnt out, he was coherent enough to go fetch the
replacement bulb and put it on. Can we assume that without his "head" Helper
can perform rudimentary "instinctive" operations; but he needs his head on and
filament heating to do "complex thinking"?

Regarding Walt Disney being cognisant of Carl Barks' comic book work:

I believe that Walt Disney did know about Carl Barks' comic book work for
Western Publishing (at least during the 1940s). As Carl told me, and I also
read in books by other studio employees, Walt had his eyes on every aspect of
his Studio's business (at least through the mid to late 1940s). It is true,
that as the scope of Disney Studios' production increased exponentially in the
late 1940s, he was able to oversee less and less. However, even though he did
delegate more and more authority to others, he still kept at least a cursory
watch on most aspects of company production for quality control and to protect
the company's image. He knew Carl Barks personally from his entry into the
Studios in 1935 as an in-betweener, and his quick transfer to the Story
Department. Walt used to make impromptu visits to every story artist (sneaking
up behind them and looking over their shoulders). He also had much contact with
carl from his many story presentation meetings. Walt had always believed the
Disney comic strips should go hand-in-hand with his film work to provide
another outlet to help promote it. He gave Gottfredson much leeway in running
that department, but continued to keep an eye on what was done there. "Mickey
Mouse Magazine" was treated in the same way. He definately kept an eye on its
production quality and content. He was involved in the final decision to
change the magazine format to a comic book format in 1940, and to have
Whitman's Western Publishing subsidiary handel the publisheing (Whitman already
handled Disney's book publishing). I am sure Walt must have been aware of the
decision to produce new comic book stories to test the marketability of the
comic book format. He must have been aware of Carl's having worked on the Pluto
and Donald Duck Four Color Comic releases done by studio staff. As the
coordination with Western Publishing was handled by Gottfredson and the Comic
Strip department, Walt must have been informed that Carl (one of his most
prolific ex-storymen) was now drawing the Donald Duck stories for Western
(1943). Gottfredson would have had to show Walt examples of the Western
product from time to time, at least during the first few years. After World
War II, Walt probably had no time to keep an eye on such things, other than
being given annual sales figures, and considering the renewal of contracts with
Western. He must have known, however, that Carl Barks was still working for
Western. He must also have found out that Barks was the inventor of Uncle
Scrooge, and that Uncle Scrooge gave the Disney Comics much popularity. This
might have occurred when Walt was in on the meetings regarding using Uncle
Scrooge in his own cartoon in 1955. He could have made the connection regarding
Barks through information from Chase Craig to the representatives of Western
who dealt with Gottfredson; and then from Gottfredson to Walt.

Rob Klein

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>Somewhere I've read that Gyro Gearloose once recieved
>a Nobel price. Is this a Barks fact? And if so, what
>kind of Nobel price was it?
>
>Best regards from
>Sigvald :-)

My guess is that you read it on my website. This is not a Barks fact - in
fact I've never really read that Gyro recieved a Nobel prize. But in the
story Romano Scarpa wrote for the 1988 Seoul Olympics (in Norway published
in Donald Pocket 88), he recieved a Snobbel prize or something in that style
(and he recieved it in the famous Scandinavian capital Stockfisk). It was
none of the five ordinary prizes, but a brand new prize, and Gyro was the
first person to ever recieve one of these. (I don't remember the exact
title, but it was something really, really weird that the Snobbel Comitee
had decided to start with). As I'm very fond of Gyro, and absolutely think
that he deserves a Nobel Prize (and I think he would have recieved one if he
was alive), I added this to my list. Except that I, because of my (and
yours) Duckburg-time-perspective, couldn't let this happen in 1988 - so I
changed it a teensie-weensie.

You could say that the main reason I added this to _my_ list has nothing to
do with a story at all, it's just because Gyro is the greatest inventor I
know, and he really deserves a prize like this (yeah, I know - Unca Barks
never got the Litterature prize. I think he deserved one, too). And even
though he may never have recieved a Nobel prize, he's recieved plenty of
Snobel prizes and things like that. So I can tell you 99% sure that it's NOT
a Barksian fact.

Olaf

Congratulations to all Latvians on the list (?), even though my favorite
through the entire voting process was Malta :)

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Subject: Don Rosa: Escape from Forbidden Valley
From: Eta Beta <eega at supereva.it>
>>>>>>>DON
I recently read (at long last!) "Escape" in "Zio Paperone", and
enjoyed it very much.
I have a little curiosity about the gag with the giant moth on
top of a nephew's head, which reminds me of a rather similar
one in a 1936-37 episode of Mandrake the Magician
Is this just a coincidence, or one of your "hommages" ?

Just a coincidence. Living in America rather than Italy, I have never been
exposed to either old or new "Mandrake" newspaper strips. It has never been
in the local paper, I've never seen a collection of old strips (such as you
have in Italy), and the comic-book reprints of the strips in the 30's and
early-mid 40's are a bit early to be represented down in my "vault". There
was a single puzzling issue of FOUR COLOR in 1956 and a lackluster 10-issue
series of new (not newspaper reprint) stories in 1966-67, both of which I
have but neither of which ever caught my attention.
The only exposure I've ever had to the "golden age" Mandrake was the issue
of MAD comics I grew up with that had "Manduck the Magician" by Will Elder.
But yes, if *all* of my work is a constant homage to something, it is to the
work of both Carl Barks and Bill Elder. And now that you mention it, that
giant moth sitting stoically on Huey's (?) head like an owl and gazing into
the fire was surely, in the recesses of my brain, an Elder gag. (As opposed
to an elder god which comes from H.P.Lovecraft.)(And would have been an
eldritch gag.)
(And nice to see you in Torino... but you need to catch me sometime when I
am not "public property" so I'd have time to make my own schedule!)