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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Rosa" <donrosa at iglou.com>
To: <dcml at stp.ling.uu.se>
Sent: den 5 maj 2002 06:41
Subject: Re: DCML digest #914

> I mean, let me give you an idea about Americans and eBay... when I
attended
> American conventions, I would carry with me stacks of new Egmont comics
that
> the publishers send me (Norway, Sweden, Denmark, etc.) and give them away
> free to kiddies. When I started getting on eBay, I saw that right after
such
> conventions, people were putting those brand new Egmont weeklies onto eBay
> for $5-10 each (!!!), not to mention taking the free toys out of the bags
> and selling those on eBay separately for a similar amount.

That's insane! You can get one of those issues for $2 here in Sweden, and
second-hand issues are available for around 20?-$1 each. And selling the
*TOYS* for the same amount of money as the actual issues.! Those toys
usually break the first time they're being used, sometimes they're already
broken when I receive the issue they're attached to! And they rarely work as
one would expect them to work. Well, *I* expect them not to work at all, and
that's exactly how they work, so maybe one could say that they work as I
expect them to work. 8-) Why would anyone like to pay $5-10 for an issue
that you can't even read?! I mean, how many Americans do actually understand
the Scandinavian languages? Sending any such issue from Europe to America is
*much* less expensive than buying them from eBay, it seems.

Stefan

Hi again! I have a new, and hopefully interesting
topic today. It's about the life of Donald from 1941
to 1945.

In a large book dedicated to HD&L
"Ole, Dole, Doffen" (1980), page 6
I have found a picture of Donald as a soldier in WW2.
The text below the picture says: "WW2 was marking the
film production in Disney's studios. Here is private
Donald in a characteristic scene from one of the short
films from the 1940s. Exhausted and ill in his feet ?
but on the way towards victory."
You can see the scan here:
http://duckman.pettho.com/ww2/ww2.html

Do anyone here know what movie that picture is taken
from?

This also lead to the question if we should se this as
a fact about Donald's life in the period from 1941 to
1945, or if it should, for any reason, be ignored.

According to Don Rosa, Donald is born some time in the
early 1920's, and most male Americans born in that
period were one way or another involved in WW2. In my
opinion this leads to 3 possibilities:
1) Donald was a soldier (a private) in WW2 as shown in
that Disney war-time film.
or
2) One way or another Donald failed the tests at the
session and didn't go to the war.
or
3) Donald participated in WW2 in the "homefront" by
working in a factory, or whatever.

When it comes to other ducks at Donalds age, I assume
that Gladstone Gander would be way to lucky to end up
in the war. But the father of HD&L might have been in
the war. That could explain why he became so shocked
when HD&L blew the firecracker under his chair.

Best regards from Sigvald Gr?sfjeld jr. (Norway)

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In a message dated 5/5/2002 9:12:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
sigvald4 at yahoo.no writes:

> 1) Donald was a soldier (a private) in WW2 as shown in
> that Disney war-time film.
>

Donald appeared as a soldier in several war war 2 era films

Steven Rowe
SRoweCanoe at aol.com

>Do anyone here know what movie that picture is taken
>from?

Several short films were made during the WWII where Donald was seen as
soldier.
- Donald Gets drafted -42
- The Old Army Game -43
- Commando Duck -44
- Sky Trooper -42
- Vanishing Private -42
at least. I guess the pic is from Donald Gets Drafted. Can't check it right
now.

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You are lucky enough to live in a place where disney comics are widely appreciated. There is a *big* difference between the disney comics fan, and the "disneyania collector." I have come across quite a few disneyania collectors who were, in my opinion, utterly insane. They will buy just about *anything* with a disney character on it, and if it's not for sale at the disney store, then it must be valuable! They buy these things in such great quantities that they don't have the time to stop and see if there is a better way to acquire whatever it is that
has just caught their fancy, they buy the first thing that presents itself. Ebay is also extremely convenient, and a lot of people don't mind paying higher prices for the sake of ease (or to raise their ebay rating!)
Ebay is a really great tool, if you're *smart* about it. When you go to it already knowing what you're looking for, and how much it is actually worth, you can find some really great deals there. Or you can get stuff, although expensive, which might take years to track down otherwise. There's just a heck of a lot of crazy people out there.

rebecca

--- "Stefan Persson" wrote:
>----- Original Message -----

>That's insane! You can get one of those issues for $2 here in Sweden, and
>second-hand issues are available for around 20¢-$1 each. And selling the
>*TOYS* for the same amount of money as the actual issues.! Those toys
>usually break the first time they're being used, sometimes they're already
>broken when I receive the issue they're attached to! And they rarely work as
>one would expect them to work. Well, *I* expect them not to work at all, and
>that's exactly how they work, so maybe one could say that they work as I
>expect them to work. 8-) Why would anyone like to pay $5-10 for an issue
>that you can't even read?! I mean, how many Americans do actually understand
>the Scandinavian languages? Sending any such issue from Europe to America is
>*much* less expensive than buying them from eBay, it seems.
>
>Stefan
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Commenting on DON's message:

> free to kiddies. When I started getting on eBay, I saw that right after
> such conventions, people were putting those brand new Egmont weeklies onto
> eBay for $5-10 each (!!!), not to mention taking the free toys out of the
> bags and selling those on eBay separately for a similar amount.

As an art collector I've been following the "original comic art" category on
eBay ever since it started in 1998. The most dire example I've seen of
immediately cashing in on items received for free happened two or three years
ago at the time of the San Diego Comic-Con. On Sunday that weekend - still
during the con, that is - someone put up a "Convention sketch by Dave McKean".
He said he had obtained the drawing from mr. McKean the day before and noted
that it had required some persuasion on his part since McKean at first appeared
"reluctant" to do a drawing for him. Gee, I wonder why. :-(
It's too bad that this kind of behavior has caused many artists to stop doing
drawings for fans altogether, because it also means that the "true" collectors
who really love and appreciate the work of the artists are denied getting them.
Though I must, parenthetically, ad that some artists who I know don't draw for
American fans anymore have been kind enough to make an exception for an exotic
Finn... ;-)
Upon hearing this a fellow American collector declared that he now has to get a
mail box in Iceland. So perhaps even that chance will soon be gone?

---Jyrki Vainio

P.S. If you're interested, some highlights from my collection can be viewed at
the internet gallery of an original comic art collector's mailing list at:
http://www.ComicArt-L.org/comicart/lowry.asp?userid=1127

> > Maybe Don can answer this,
>How do you feel when you see a drawing you have done for a "fan" end up on
> EBAY selling for $$$ ?

As a "fan" who got a drawing or two from Don at one of those American shows
in question,
I can tell you I would never sell the drawings. That is what being a fan
really means.
The people who are selling sketches were not really fans in the first place
or received it from someone else. I know Don was speaking in generalities
with his response, and he knows that there are fans who have kept sketches he
has done for them.
In the early days of Don's Duck sketches, he charged $15 for black and white,
and $30 for color. When I see the Black and White sketches on Ebay, I know
he charged $15 of less for these and just can not justify paying the $70 plus
they sell for. For awhile I thought I "needed" another sketch from Don, and
often check out ebay sales of Color sketches, But I have learned to really
appreciate the ones I have, and cannot bring myself to pay the $400-$800 they
are selling for on ebay. With no new Rosa comics being produced in English,
The sketches are all I have. Count yourselves (Europeans) fortunate to be
getting new Don Rosa stories. If anyone wants to help me get Rosa comics of
his last 12 stories (in any language) I would be interested in them.

Barry Branvold

From: bi442 at lafn.org (Rob Klein)
>>>For Don: Oops! Sorry! I DO remember your having commented on the coin
issue
earlier, when we had long discussions over that subject.

Um... but now that I think about it, this particular thread was begun by
someone who thought it might be significant that Barks said in one story
that $crooge got gold dust on him from swimming in the money, so the money
must be gold coins. I can at least address that new idea...
I can see perfectly the thought process behind this comment -- for plot
purposes, Barks needed to invent an on-the-spot instant skin affliction for
$crooge. When we need an idea for gags or explanations, I would guess his
brain worked the same as mine:
* It had to be explainable in one balloon.
* It should involve $crooge's skin pores being clogged.
* Something that might clog them is dirt... or dust.
* Gold dust is something that is heard a lot about, due to prospector's
activities. (We never hear of silver dust or copper dust.)
* But why would $crooge be getting gold dust on himself? The gold dust would
have to enter $crooge's pores due to something he did often.
* $crooge swims in his money every day. Perfect.
* But... why would there be gold dust in the coins more than in other things
in $crooge's life? Or is that even true? Not important. Irrelevant to the
plot.
* (And for that matter, who says the doctor is correct in his diagnosis in
the first place?)