ALIPIO (says):
> > 1967 - Scrooge McDuck dies?
> Well, I allways saw U$ as a kind of Peter Pan: never will died or
> became more older.
!!! Huh? Why would he not grow older? He's a normal "human". I mean, sure
he won't age as the years of comic stories pass, but we aren't suppose to
think of him or DD or HD&L as some sort of magical beings like Peter Pan.
(???) I assume you were just kidding.
> And who inherit all his fortune? DD? GG? H,D,L?
As stated in an old Barks story, $crooge named HD&L as his eventual heirs.
Author
Topic: 199709
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Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #193
Message 106 -
1997-09-10 at 09:07:24
Ota
Suzie, the Little Blue Coupe/Separate Universes
Message 107 -
1997-09-10 at 09:40:38
M. Mitchell Marmel told last digest the name of that old Disney toon I had forgot. Thanks.
Now please someone tell me the name of that toon that is the story of two hats -- I think
it was included in Melody Time or so. My memory is not so good as before!
As for separate Disney Universes, well. The best explanation is: in fact there are several
universes in two dimensions.
Modern characters like Alladin, Litle Mermaid et al belong to a different dimension; older
characters like Donald, Mickey, Cinderella's mice and even Sleeping Beauty belong to an old
dimension with several universes included in it. That's why Cinderella's mice live at
Grandma Duck's farm or Madam Min from Sword in the Stone can appear in duck stories but not
Alladin or Belle can appear along with Snow White.
Even in a multiverse, there are some rules. DC Comics ended all multiverses with Crisis on
Infinite Earths, but now there are even more universes than 10 years ago. Some characters
remember the Crisis, but they aren't aware that the universe of Batman Animated Series
exists! If we consider the Amalgam universe... well. It was for things like that I stopped
reading super-heores. There are so many characters and universes now I would have to reae
everything to be updated.
Well back to Disney -- just ask any child which characters belong to which universe or
dimension and they will tell you. They know better than us. Do that. Ask any child. They
know everything is Disney, but they do make a distinction between old and new universe.
They know Donald is Disney, Mickey is Disney, Aristocats is Disney, Little Mermaid is
Disney. But they know that Little Marmaid is a different universe than Robin Hood or The
Rescuers for instance. Children know. They never stopped to discuss like us (nor bothered
to create a Disney List) it but intimately they know the differences between the two
Disneys! That is not related to Walt Disney's death or something like that because Rescuers
was done several years after Disney's death.
They intimately know that Ariel and Alladin are from the same universe -- even if Ariel has
no way to meet Alladin because even within those universes it's impossible for characters
like Quasimodo, Ariel and Alladin appear on the same story. But children know that a
different Disney created the modern characters and an old Disney created the old ones. And
those two Disneys have the same name but are separate entities.
Well... Cinderella's mice in Grandma Duck's farm is an invention of Western Printing. But
Figaro and Cleo appearing as pets in the Mickey Universe was indeed an invention of the old
Disney. If memory doesn't betrays me again,. I think I saw a toon in which Figaro and Cleo
are pets of Minnie Mouse. Am I wrong?
Ota
(Email removed)
Now please someone tell me the name of that toon that is the story of two hats -- I think
it was included in Melody Time or so. My memory is not so good as before!
As for separate Disney Universes, well. The best explanation is: in fact there are several
universes in two dimensions.
Modern characters like Alladin, Litle Mermaid et al belong to a different dimension; older
characters like Donald, Mickey, Cinderella's mice and even Sleeping Beauty belong to an old
dimension with several universes included in it. That's why Cinderella's mice live at
Grandma Duck's farm or Madam Min from Sword in the Stone can appear in duck stories but not
Alladin or Belle can appear along with Snow White.
Even in a multiverse, there are some rules. DC Comics ended all multiverses with Crisis on
Infinite Earths, but now there are even more universes than 10 years ago. Some characters
remember the Crisis, but they aren't aware that the universe of Batman Animated Series
exists! If we consider the Amalgam universe... well. It was for things like that I stopped
reading super-heores. There are so many characters and universes now I would have to reae
everything to be updated.
Well back to Disney -- just ask any child which characters belong to which universe or
dimension and they will tell you. They know better than us. Do that. Ask any child. They
know everything is Disney, but they do make a distinction between old and new universe.
They know Donald is Disney, Mickey is Disney, Aristocats is Disney, Little Mermaid is
Disney. But they know that Little Marmaid is a different universe than Robin Hood or The
Rescuers for instance. Children know. They never stopped to discuss like us (nor bothered
to create a Disney List) it but intimately they know the differences between the two
Disneys! That is not related to Walt Disney's death or something like that because Rescuers
was done several years after Disney's death.
They intimately know that Ariel and Alladin are from the same universe -- even if Ariel has
no way to meet Alladin because even within those universes it's impossible for characters
like Quasimodo, Ariel and Alladin appear on the same story. But children know that a
different Disney created the modern characters and an old Disney created the old ones. And
those two Disneys have the same name but are separate entities.
Well... Cinderella's mice in Grandma Duck's farm is an invention of Western Printing. But
Figaro and Cleo appearing as pets in the Mickey Universe was indeed an invention of the old
Disney. If memory doesn't betrays me again,. I think I saw a toon in which Figaro and Cleo
are pets of Minnie Mouse. Am I wrong?
Ota
(Email removed)
Brix Lichtenberg
Disney comics Digest V97 #193
Message 108 -
1997-09-10 at 11:32:57
OTA:
> "Mickey Rodent" (name of that parody) was first published in MAD #19 - jan.1955.
> It seems that it will be reprinted in the 7th issue of the new Mad-EC Reprints
> series somewhere late 1998 or early 1999. But that story has already been reprinted
> in color some 20 years ago in the one of the first MAD Super Specials -- back then
> they inserted a fac-simile color MAD in some issues.
>
Thanks for the info. 1999 is a long time to wait. And inserts of 20
years old MAD Super Specials are nearly impossible to get around here.
Well, at least I've got my little b/w pocket book to flip through.
DAVID G.:
Since I got interested in recent Disney stories again because of the
mailing list I got myself about 150 issues of "Micky Maus" at a flea's
market this weekend (no, I didn't get fleeced. Occasionally it's still
possible to get back issues of recent years for less than 10 cent each)
and I think I read some of your stories.
I really liked your "The Timber Topper" (D 96292). That's a way to
handle Mickey I'd like to see more often. It reminded me a little bit of
the beginning of Gottfredson's Robin Hood story.
I also like the nostalgic feeling to see Mickey in his old pants again.
Are you the only writer who uses Mickey in this sort of garment today?
I don't know if you're the writer of D 96013 because I couldn't check it
with the DCD yet, so maybe this doesn't concern you. But I don't think
Mickey was handled as well as in Timber Topper. Though the story was
okay I had the feeling of a wrong cast.
One could easily replace Mickey with Donald, Minnie with Daisy, Mickey's
antagonist with Neighbour Jones and Goofy with HD&L and get a typical
and average Donald Duck story.
But the main reason I'm addressing you is to repeat my question I (and
several others now) asked some digests ago.
Is there a list of banned comics available? I hope it's no corporate
secret.
And in this context:
ALL:
I didn't buy recent WDC&S. But I've read Gladstone reprinted
Gottfredson's Phantom Blot story I (falsely) assumed banned. Did Disney
really allow to leave all the deathtraps in the story or did they censor
it?
That's it.
Keep on duckin' [I learned that one from Juergen :)]
Brix
(who's drooling together with Augie for Byron's announcement)
> "Mickey Rodent" (name of that parody) was first published in MAD #19 - jan.1955.
> It seems that it will be reprinted in the 7th issue of the new Mad-EC Reprints
> series somewhere late 1998 or early 1999. But that story has already been reprinted
> in color some 20 years ago in the one of the first MAD Super Specials -- back then
> they inserted a fac-simile color MAD in some issues.
>
Thanks for the info. 1999 is a long time to wait. And inserts of 20
years old MAD Super Specials are nearly impossible to get around here.
Well, at least I've got my little b/w pocket book to flip through.
DAVID G.:
Since I got interested in recent Disney stories again because of the
mailing list I got myself about 150 issues of "Micky Maus" at a flea's
market this weekend (no, I didn't get fleeced. Occasionally it's still
possible to get back issues of recent years for less than 10 cent each)
and I think I read some of your stories.
I really liked your "The Timber Topper" (D 96292). That's a way to
handle Mickey I'd like to see more often. It reminded me a little bit of
the beginning of Gottfredson's Robin Hood story.
I also like the nostalgic feeling to see Mickey in his old pants again.
Are you the only writer who uses Mickey in this sort of garment today?
I don't know if you're the writer of D 96013 because I couldn't check it
with the DCD yet, so maybe this doesn't concern you. But I don't think
Mickey was handled as well as in Timber Topper. Though the story was
okay I had the feeling of a wrong cast.
One could easily replace Mickey with Donald, Minnie with Daisy, Mickey's
antagonist with Neighbour Jones and Goofy with HD&L and get a typical
and average Donald Duck story.
But the main reason I'm addressing you is to repeat my question I (and
several others now) asked some digests ago.
Is there a list of banned comics available? I hope it's no corporate
secret.
And in this context:
ALL:
I didn't buy recent WDC&S. But I've read Gladstone reprinted
Gottfredson's Phantom Blot story I (falsely) assumed banned. Did Disney
really allow to leave all the deathtraps in the story or did they censor
it?
That's it.
Keep on duckin' [I learned that one from Juergen :)]
Brix
(who's drooling together with Augie for Byron's announcement)
SRoweCanoe
Bugs Bunny??? What's he doing on this list?
Message 109 -
1997-09-10 at 12:18:46
Subject: Re: Bugs Bunny??? What's he doing on this list?
> Dwight Decker said:
> <<"Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" isn't in that collection, but was in
> Volume I of MGM's series of boxed laserdisc sets of Warner toons.
> I've heard that the cartoon was omitted from a subsequent reissue
> of the collection, supposedly due to Turner policy, and the first
> edition has acquired collectible status and high prices on the
> secondary market as a result.>>
Then Steven Rowe said:
> Maybe so, but as of just a few months ago, the Laser Disc set was still in
> print, and still available (from folks like Ken Crane) at regular retail
> with Nips the Nips still on it.
> There is no (as of yet)set without it.
Then Dwight said:
<<How could I be so wrong? Musta misheard something... On the
other hand, there's an ad in the latest issue of the Laser
Disc Newsletter from somebody offering a used Looney Tunes boxed
set, "uncut" for $180, eighty buckeroonies above the original
retail price. Maybe the corresponding set of _tapes_
for Volume I has been reissued with the offending cartoon
excised?>>
The only reason that I knew that Is cause I used to sub to the laserdisc
usenet group (before the ld vs DVD flame war got to hot). And folks were
allways trying to sell a set at $200 and other folks would politely correct
them on it's availability.
<<And just to get back to something Disney related...gee, I wish
there had been a second volume of the boxed set of Mickey Mouse
cartoons on laserdisc...and a Donald box, too!>>
Or a Silly Sympohony set. I do hear that there are smaller sets still
being produced in Japan. Gee, without Japan, I wouldn't be able to watch
Song of the South...
Say, are there current Disney comics in Japan?
Steven Rowe
> Dwight Decker said:
> <<"Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" isn't in that collection, but was in
> Volume I of MGM's series of boxed laserdisc sets of Warner toons.
> I've heard that the cartoon was omitted from a subsequent reissue
> of the collection, supposedly due to Turner policy, and the first
> edition has acquired collectible status and high prices on the
> secondary market as a result.>>
Then Steven Rowe said:
> Maybe so, but as of just a few months ago, the Laser Disc set was still in
> print, and still available (from folks like Ken Crane) at regular retail
> with Nips the Nips still on it.
> There is no (as of yet)set without it.
Then Dwight said:
<<How could I be so wrong? Musta misheard something... On the
other hand, there's an ad in the latest issue of the Laser
Disc Newsletter from somebody offering a used Looney Tunes boxed
set, "uncut" for $180, eighty buckeroonies above the original
retail price. Maybe the corresponding set of _tapes_
for Volume I has been reissued with the offending cartoon
excised?>>
The only reason that I knew that Is cause I used to sub to the laserdisc
usenet group (before the ld vs DVD flame war got to hot). And folks were
allways trying to sell a set at $200 and other folks would politely correct
them on it's availability.
<<And just to get back to something Disney related...gee, I wish
there had been a second volume of the boxed set of Mickey Mouse
cartoons on laserdisc...and a Donald box, too!>>
Or a Silly Sympohony set. I do hear that there are smaller sets still
being produced in Japan. Gee, without Japan, I wouldn't be able to watch
Song of the South...
Say, are there current Disney comics in Japan?
Steven Rowe
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Ageless $crooge
Message 110 -
1997-09-10 at 12:52:09
DON:
> !!! Huh? Why would he not grow older? He's a normal "human". I mean, sure
> he won't age as the years of comic stories pass, but we aren't suppose to
> think of him or DD or HD&L as some sort of magical beings like Peter Pan.
> (???) I assume you were just kidding.
In defense of Alipio, I can see where he's coming from. For one thing, it's a
heck of a lot easier to reconcile $crooge both living in an age with microwaves
and without, in the case of stories being done by other artists which take
place in ostensibly modern times. Secondly, I don't want to consider my
favorite character's death, although to tell you the truth, I like your
timeline (death included) just fine. Third, how else would you reconcile HDL
never growing older? If they don't, then surely $crooge doesn't. HDL were the
same age for twenty plus years of Carl Barks stories. Yet $crooge did age
normally?
If you're overwhelmed by time paradoxes ("paradoxen"? "Paradice"?) when it
comes to the Ducks, the above is the reason to go for the Peter Pan theory.
If you're not, then go with your assumption of $crooge's death upon Barks'
retirement.
-Augie
----------------------------------------------------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
"People meet on the net, they talk, they get together, have
dinner, a show... horrible ax murder." - Xander
Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Monday nights, WB, 9 p.m.
> !!! Huh? Why would he not grow older? He's a normal "human". I mean, sure
> he won't age as the years of comic stories pass, but we aren't suppose to
> think of him or DD or HD&L as some sort of magical beings like Peter Pan.
> (???) I assume you were just kidding.
In defense of Alipio, I can see where he's coming from. For one thing, it's a
heck of a lot easier to reconcile $crooge both living in an age with microwaves
and without, in the case of stories being done by other artists which take
place in ostensibly modern times. Secondly, I don't want to consider my
favorite character's death, although to tell you the truth, I like your
timeline (death included) just fine. Third, how else would you reconcile HDL
never growing older? If they don't, then surely $crooge doesn't. HDL were the
same age for twenty plus years of Carl Barks stories. Yet $crooge did age
normally?
If you're overwhelmed by time paradoxes ("paradoxen"? "Paradice"?) when it
comes to the Ducks, the above is the reason to go for the Peter Pan theory.
If you're not, then go with your assumption of $crooge's death upon Barks'
retirement.
-Augie
----------------------------------------------------------------
Augie De Blieck Jr. * (Email removed) * (Email removed)
"People meet on the net, they talk, they get together, have
dinner, a show... horrible ax murder." - Xander
Buffy The Vampire Slayer: Monday nights, WB, 9 p.m.
Ole R. Nielsen
Ice Sword et al.
Message 111 -
1997-09-10 at 13:18:07
RICH taled about crossovers in Disney comics, and I just heard today
that Egmont Denmark had bought out the only other major comic book
company in Denmark, Semic-Interpresse. They were doing the super
dooper comics from Marvel and DC, so now we might see Darkwing Duck
team up with Batman, or Super-Goof in the showdown of the century
against Superman (if he's still around). :-)
If there's a large enough market of countries, where Egmont has the
license to Disney/DC/Marvel there may be a real chance: a Danish
Superman album was produced some years ago, "Superman and the Peace
Bomb". I'm sure if Don was interested, they'd give him a shot at it...
I don't believe Don's remark Monday about a policy change at Egmont
is related to this, though he was too vague even to give rumor mongers
anything to go by. Which won't keep me from trying a shot in the dark:
something to do with story credits?
TARJEI responded to a letter by GEORGE DIMAGON... DIAMANTOPOULOS! ;-)
The question was if there was "any particular reason why Gladstone
couldn't use this story without too much trouble?"
Well, only that if it was published, as you suggested, in WDC&S it
would take five full issues. Its four chapters take up almost 300 pages!
I'd be happy to supply the Danish reprint of the first three parts in
Jumbo #89 and the final one in 'Christmas Classics' #1 for a lot less
than the $35 that would cost! If your language preference is German
look out for Lustige Taschenbuch #124 and Weihnachtsgeschichten #1.
I'm sure French and Italian versions are also available, though I
can't guarantee it. What a crying shame it is that the only Egmont
country speaking a civilized tongue, England, doesn't have a market
for Disney comics.
Americans curious to see what this Massimo de Vita guy is worth,
can look in Goofy Adventures #7 for the only overseas example.
It's BTW a part of a chapter of the 12 part Zodiacus cycle...
Me, I'd like to see his and Giorgio Pezzin's "Once Upon a Time
in America" in English, but everyone's entitled to dream...
Ole
that Egmont Denmark had bought out the only other major comic book
company in Denmark, Semic-Interpresse. They were doing the super
dooper comics from Marvel and DC, so now we might see Darkwing Duck
team up with Batman, or Super-Goof in the showdown of the century
against Superman (if he's still around). :-)
If there's a large enough market of countries, where Egmont has the
license to Disney/DC/Marvel there may be a real chance: a Danish
Superman album was produced some years ago, "Superman and the Peace
Bomb". I'm sure if Don was interested, they'd give him a shot at it...
I don't believe Don's remark Monday about a policy change at Egmont
is related to this, though he was too vague even to give rumor mongers
anything to go by. Which won't keep me from trying a shot in the dark:
something to do with story credits?
TARJEI responded to a letter by GEORGE DIMAGON... DIAMANTOPOULOS! ;-)
The question was if there was "any particular reason why Gladstone
couldn't use this story without too much trouble?"
Well, only that if it was published, as you suggested, in WDC&S it
would take five full issues. Its four chapters take up almost 300 pages!
I'd be happy to supply the Danish reprint of the first three parts in
Jumbo #89 and the final one in 'Christmas Classics' #1 for a lot less
than the $35 that would cost! If your language preference is German
look out for Lustige Taschenbuch #124 and Weihnachtsgeschichten #1.
I'm sure French and Italian versions are also available, though I
can't guarantee it. What a crying shame it is that the only Egmont
country speaking a civilized tongue, England, doesn't have a market
for Disney comics.
Americans curious to see what this Massimo de Vita guy is worth,
can look in Goofy Adventures #7 for the only overseas example.
It's BTW a part of a chapter of the 12 part Zodiacus cycle...
Me, I'd like to see his and Giorgio Pezzin's "Once Upon a Time
in America" in English, but everyone's entitled to dream...
Ole
Luna Storta
His Majesty Mc Duck
Message 112 -
1997-09-10 at 13:29:23
Hello again,
This time it's just for a some considerations:
I read the italian version of "His Majesty Mc Duck", and i found it more
interesting because of coloring that is more detailed: in the italian
version is clearly visible the skull inside the Swapmhole' armor on page
17 (6th panel). Then I noticed that the same armour is used on the last
page's first panel as a stowe... with the skeleton inside?!?
Just to satisfy my curiosity: is there someone who can explain me why
Beagle Boys' laugh on the 6th panel on page 21 in the american version
in "HA! HA!" and in the italian version is "AH! AH!"???;-)
CIAO!
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/3088
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This time it's just for a some considerations:
I read the italian version of "His Majesty Mc Duck", and i found it more
interesting because of coloring that is more detailed: in the italian
version is clearly visible the skull inside the Swapmhole' armor on page
17 (6th panel). Then I noticed that the same armour is used on the last
page's first panel as a stowe... with the skeleton inside?!?
Just to satisfy my curiosity: is there someone who can explain me why
Beagle Boys' laugh on the 6th panel on page 21 in the american version
in "HA! HA!" and in the italian version is "AH! AH!"???;-)
CIAO!
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
http://www.geocities.com/Paris/3088
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Dr. Archontis Pantsios
A LAST REMINDER: The First International Rosa Survey
Message 113 -
1997-09-10 at 13:35:08
FELLOW DUCKFANS:
Here follows THE LAST reminder on the Rosa survey.
The DEADLINE is looming ahead: SEPTEMBER 15, 1997.
A few general INSTRUCTIONS: Answer as many categories as you wish. In each
category choose at MOST THREE picks.
Send your responses to: (Email removed)
Here's the Questionnaire once again:
INTERNATIONAL SURVEY ON DON ROSA
NAME:
NATIONALITY:
SEX:
AGE:
1) Pick at MOST 3 covers which you consider Rosa's BEST: (*NOTE*: NOT in
order of preference. Simply what you'd consider Don's 3 BEST covers).
2) Pick at MOST 3 OPENING SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:
3) Pick at MOST 3 INTERIOR SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:
4) Pick at MOST 3 stories (of any length) which you consider Rosa's WORST:
5) Pick at MOST 3 SHORT stories (2-14 pages long) which you consider Rosa's
BEST:
6) Pick at MOST 3 LONG stories (15 pages or more) which you consider Rosa's
BEST:
7) Pick at MOST 3 "BEST/CLEVEREST" hidden D.U.C.K.s. (in covers OR Splash
panels).
8) COMMENTS:
A lucky respondent shall receive an issue of the Greek KOMIX containing a
Rosa story.
I hope you have fun filling out the above questionnaire,
Archontis
P.S. The number of respondents has passed 30! Good going--but we can do even
better! Five days are left till the deadline--so send in those Rosa surveys!
Here follows THE LAST reminder on the Rosa survey.
The DEADLINE is looming ahead: SEPTEMBER 15, 1997.
A few general INSTRUCTIONS: Answer as many categories as you wish. In each
category choose at MOST THREE picks.
Send your responses to: (Email removed)
Here's the Questionnaire once again:
INTERNATIONAL SURVEY ON DON ROSA
NAME:
NATIONALITY:
SEX:
AGE:
1) Pick at MOST 3 covers which you consider Rosa's BEST: (*NOTE*: NOT in
order of preference. Simply what you'd consider Don's 3 BEST covers).
2) Pick at MOST 3 OPENING SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:
3) Pick at MOST 3 INTERIOR SPLASH PANELS which you consider Rosa's BEST:
4) Pick at MOST 3 stories (of any length) which you consider Rosa's WORST:
5) Pick at MOST 3 SHORT stories (2-14 pages long) which you consider Rosa's
BEST:
6) Pick at MOST 3 LONG stories (15 pages or more) which you consider Rosa's
BEST:
7) Pick at MOST 3 "BEST/CLEVEREST" hidden D.U.C.K.s. (in covers OR Splash
panels).
8) COMMENTS:
A lucky respondent shall receive an issue of the Greek KOMIX containing a
Rosa story.
I hope you have fun filling out the above questionnaire,
Archontis
P.S. The number of respondents has passed 30! Good going--but we can do even
better! Five days are left till the deadline--so send in those Rosa surveys!
Cebarat
Disney Comics Digest V97 #191-193
Message 114 -
1997-09-10 at 15:03:31
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 11:01:04 +0300 (EET DST)
From: Mikko Pohjola <(Email removed)>
To: (Email removed)
Subject: The Kalevala
MIKKO POHJOLA said:
<<It would be hard if not impossible to make a good story (any kind of
story!) about the entire Kalevala, unless it was about the book itself
rather than it's contents - such as Search of the Lost Chapter of The
Kalevala etc. However, if one would take one individual story from the
book, such as the story about the money-making machine Sampo, or the one
about how Ilmarinen the demi-god smith of the Kaleva people made himself a
wife of gold and silver, or some such story, and maybe add one or two of
the legendary monsters of The Kalevala, THEN it would be possible to tell
a good story related to The Kalevala - or at least parts of it.>>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 13:57:47 +0300
From: "Dr. Archontis Pantsios" <(Email removed)>
To: (Email removed)
Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #189
DR. ARCHOTIS PANTSIOS glowed with pride:
<<Thanks!!! More than anything else, that decision last Friday of the
International Olympic Committee will be a major boost to the morale of the
Greek people. It seems that financially most Olympiads end up in the red,
but then why do so many cities vie for them every four years?
I hope that ATHENS 2004 shall serve as an excellent chance to revive the
tarnished Olympic spirit that suffered greatly in recent years (see the
boycotts of the Moscow and Los Angeles games and the fiasco of the Atlanta
Games). The Olympic Games have at last returned to their cradle. A very
poignant caricature was one appearing in a non-Greek journal after the
Friday decision, showing Pierre de Couberten (sp.?), with a victory sign
rising from his grave, and shouting "WE WON!".>>
As for why Disney is sitting on "Der Fuehrer's Face" (and if that
isn't an interesting image...), I don't know. It gets excerpted a
lot in retrospectives, so it isn't being tossed down the memory
hole, exactly. Somebody speculated that it was now thought to be
too "anti-German," but I always thought that was a bit over-simplified.
I'd guess the cartoon is considered too much a product of its time,
too caught up in wartime belligerence, too enmeshed in the context
of World War II, to be funny or even comprehensible to children
over half a century later. What that doesn't explain is why the
cartoon wasn't included in the "An Officer and a Duck" collection,
where it would have been in the proper context and could have been
introduced in a way to explain it. As I recall, the introduction to
"An Officer and a Duck" actually includes clips from "Der Fuhrer's
Face" -- but not the bloody cartoon itself!
--Dwight Decker
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:26:18 -0400
From: "Dan Shane" <(Email removed)>
To: <(Email removed)>
Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #192
One suggestion: When referring to various ancient works, it's a good idea
not to identify certain writings as mythology when they are still viewed by
millions today as holy scripture, including the Vedas and the Bible. Just
because these collections are centuries old does not mean they are
universally considered to be fictional, as are the myths of civilizations
long gone. Joseph Campbell may have thought of the Bible, the Quran, and
the Vedas as myth, but not everyone agrees with him.
AUGIE DE BLIECK said, re "Tis the Season"
> eehh, are there two "'Tis the season? The one I know of is written by Dave
> Rawson and drawn by Vicar (92272)(published in USA?)!
Apparantly so. The Bob Foster story was absolutely beautifully done.
Painted
full-page splashes by Mike Peraza. Brings a tear to my eye every time.
-Augie
From: Mikko Pohjola <(Email removed)>
To: (Email removed)
Subject: The Kalevala
MIKKO POHJOLA said:
<<It would be hard if not impossible to make a good story (any kind of
story!) about the entire Kalevala, unless it was about the book itself
rather than it's contents - such as Search of the Lost Chapter of The
Kalevala etc. However, if one would take one individual story from the
book, such as the story about the money-making machine Sampo, or the one
about how Ilmarinen the demi-god smith of the Kaleva people made himself a
wife of gold and silver, or some such story, and maybe add one or two of
the legendary monsters of The Kalevala, THEN it would be possible to tell
a good story related to The Kalevala - or at least parts of it.>>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 1997 13:57:47 +0300
From: "Dr. Archontis Pantsios" <(Email removed)>
To: (Email removed)
Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #189
DR. ARCHOTIS PANTSIOS glowed with pride:
<<Thanks!!! More than anything else, that decision last Friday of the
International Olympic Committee will be a major boost to the morale of the
Greek people. It seems that financially most Olympiads end up in the red,
but then why do so many cities vie for them every four years?
I hope that ATHENS 2004 shall serve as an excellent chance to revive the
tarnished Olympic spirit that suffered greatly in recent years (see the
boycotts of the Moscow and Los Angeles games and the fiasco of the Atlanta
Games). The Olympic Games have at last returned to their cradle. A very
poignant caricature was one appearing in a non-Greek journal after the
Friday decision, showing Pierre de Couberten (sp.?), with a victory sign
rising from his grave, and shouting "WE WON!".>>
As for why Disney is sitting on "Der Fuehrer's Face" (and if that
isn't an interesting image...), I don't know. It gets excerpted a
lot in retrospectives, so it isn't being tossed down the memory
hole, exactly. Somebody speculated that it was now thought to be
too "anti-German," but I always thought that was a bit over-simplified.
I'd guess the cartoon is considered too much a product of its time,
too caught up in wartime belligerence, too enmeshed in the context
of World War II, to be funny or even comprehensible to children
over half a century later. What that doesn't explain is why the
cartoon wasn't included in the "An Officer and a Duck" collection,
where it would have been in the proper context and could have been
introduced in a way to explain it. As I recall, the introduction to
"An Officer and a Duck" actually includes clips from "Der Fuhrer's
Face" -- but not the bloody cartoon itself!
--Dwight Decker
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 1997 18:26:18 -0400
From: "Dan Shane" <(Email removed)>
To: <(Email removed)>
Subject: Re: Disney comics Digest V97 #192
One suggestion: When referring to various ancient works, it's a good idea
not to identify certain writings as mythology when they are still viewed by
millions today as holy scripture, including the Vedas and the Bible. Just
because these collections are centuries old does not mean they are
universally considered to be fictional, as are the myths of civilizations
long gone. Joseph Campbell may have thought of the Bible, the Quran, and
the Vedas as myth, but not everyone agrees with him.
AUGIE DE BLIECK said, re "Tis the Season"
> eehh, are there two "'Tis the season? The one I know of is written by Dave
> Rawson and drawn by Vicar (92272)(published in USA?)!
Apparantly so. The Bob Foster story was absolutely beautifully done.
Painted
full-page splashes by Mike Peraza. Brings a tear to my eye every time.
-Augie
Cebarat
Oops!
Message 115 -
1997-09-10 at 15:07:01
I accidentally sent a message about Digests #191-193 before putting in my own
comments! Please disregard that message. I'll be posting the REAL message
before long.
-- Chris Barat
comments! Please disregard that message. I'll be posting the REAL message
before long.
-- Chris Barat
Bhc
Disney comics Digest V97 #193
Message 116 -
1997-09-10 at 18:37:37
Per-Erik:
>Does anyone now WHY the names of the writer's and drawer's aren't
>published?
At the time of publication those names aren't always known here at
Gladstone, as Egmont (or whatever source) hasn't supplied them. And we
avoid making "best guesses" anymore, since we seem to turn out to be wrong
as often as not.
Gary
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"It's Bindy Gonzer's birthday!" - Churchy La Femme
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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>Does anyone now WHY the names of the writer's and drawer's aren't
>published?
At the time of publication those names aren't always known here at
Gladstone, as Egmont (or whatever source) hasn't supplied them. And we
avoid making "best guesses" anymore, since we seem to turn out to be wrong
as often as not.
Gary
****************************
"It's Bindy Gonzer's birthday!" - Churchy La Femme
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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Nils Helge Karstad
Disney comics Digest V97 #192
Message 117 -
1997-09-10 at 19:19:07
>Now for a tricky linguistic problem; when Scrooge gets 'electrolyted'
>he utters the words ">Mfl!< Hlp mf! Gbmfolblmf!" in the English version.
>But in the Danish one he says ">Mfl!< Hjlp Mg! Gbmflbmlf!" Please
>note the subtle differences and that the Danish version appears to
>recognize that "Hlp mf" means "Help me" and translates that (leaving
>out the vowels). My guess is that the last sentence means "Give me...
The Norwegian version is "Mfll! Hjlp! Mf! Gmblmmmlf!" ...
Jo
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>he utters the words ">Mfl!< Hlp mf! Gbmfolblmf!" in the English version.
>But in the Danish one he says ">Mfl!< Hjlp Mg! Gbmflbmlf!" Please
>note the subtle differences and that the Danish version appears to
>recognize that "Hlp mf" means "Help me" and translates that (leaving
>out the vowels). My guess is that the last sentence means "Give me...
The Norwegian version is "Mfll! Hjlp! Mf! Gmblmmmlf!" ...
Jo
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Mail-adress:
(Email removed)
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Deckerd
Disney X-overs
Message 118 -
1997-09-10 at 21:04:00
On Sep 9, 10:56pm, Rich Bellacera wrote:
> That actually sounds more complicated than I suspected. It sounds like
> a feat equivalent to having Marvel's Spiderman meet D.C.'s Superman.
> Oy! and both Mickey and Simba are Disney characters which makes the
> whole thing sound absurd from a simple "reader's" perpective. So I
> guess it'd be a pretty good guess we'll probably NEVER see such a
> scenario as "Mickey meets Simba" (even if a good script could be written).
> I agree with Luna concerning the trend to stay away from such crossovers
> stories (unless there was a better purpose than the usual hapazard meetings
> in the older stories which seemed to be written *just-because-they-could-be
> -written*).
>
What, it suddenly occurs to me, about the live-action features?
Even in the old days, did characters from the live-action movies
ever turn up in the comic books to interact with animated
characters? The answer that pops into my head is "no" -- but
with my memory, saying something like that is the surest way
to being shot down on the ML.
But what about today? Could Acclaim do, say, a story in which
Ariel met Little Madison the Mermaid (seen at the beginning of
Splash)? Probably not -- I'd guess that Acclaim's license only
covers modern characters from the animated features, and live-
action films are a whole separate category (but I don't _know_
this). I also recall somebody telling me once that it gets
a little complicated with modern features because of the financing--
a movie might be produced by a consortium of investors called
"Silver Screen Associates" rather than by Disney outright, the
way it used to be, even though released by and through Disney,
so there's an added dimension of approvals and permissions in
using the characters from that movie. Or at least that's my
impression from what I remember being told.
Ah well...I remember a back-up story in the '50s Lady & the Tramp
Dell Giant movie adaptation..."Lady in the Enchanted Forest."
Within a few pages, Lady met an astonishing number of characters
from previous Disney animated features, and the story ended with
a cute bit of her flapping her ears in order to fly like Dumbo.
Can't do anything like that any more, I guess. (But even then...
I seem to remember that Lady only met characters from previous
Disney movies -- not Donald or Mickey-type characters. If I'm
remembering right, maybe there was a split between movie characters
and animated cartoon/comic-book characters even then?)
--Dwight Decker
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #194
******************************************
> That actually sounds more complicated than I suspected. It sounds like
> a feat equivalent to having Marvel's Spiderman meet D.C.'s Superman.
> Oy! and both Mickey and Simba are Disney characters which makes the
> whole thing sound absurd from a simple "reader's" perpective. So I
> guess it'd be a pretty good guess we'll probably NEVER see such a
> scenario as "Mickey meets Simba" (even if a good script could be written).
> I agree with Luna concerning the trend to stay away from such crossovers
> stories (unless there was a better purpose than the usual hapazard meetings
> in the older stories which seemed to be written *just-because-they-could-be
> -written*).
>
What, it suddenly occurs to me, about the live-action features?
Even in the old days, did characters from the live-action movies
ever turn up in the comic books to interact with animated
characters? The answer that pops into my head is "no" -- but
with my memory, saying something like that is the surest way
to being shot down on the ML.
But what about today? Could Acclaim do, say, a story in which
Ariel met Little Madison the Mermaid (seen at the beginning of
Splash)? Probably not -- I'd guess that Acclaim's license only
covers modern characters from the animated features, and live-
action films are a whole separate category (but I don't _know_
this). I also recall somebody telling me once that it gets
a little complicated with modern features because of the financing--
a movie might be produced by a consortium of investors called
"Silver Screen Associates" rather than by Disney outright, the
way it used to be, even though released by and through Disney,
so there's an added dimension of approvals and permissions in
using the characters from that movie. Or at least that's my
impression from what I remember being told.
Ah well...I remember a back-up story in the '50s Lady & the Tramp
Dell Giant movie adaptation..."Lady in the Enchanted Forest."
Within a few pages, Lady met an astonishing number of characters
from previous Disney animated features, and the story ended with
a cute bit of her flapping her ears in order to fly like Dumbo.
Can't do anything like that any more, I guess. (But even then...
I seem to remember that Lady only met characters from previous
Disney movies -- not Donald or Mickey-type characters. If I'm
remembering right, maybe there was a split between movie characters
and animated cartoon/comic-book characters even then?)
--Dwight Decker
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #194
******************************************
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
*THE* Timeline...
Message 119 -
1997-09-11 at 00:14:48
Hi,
Well, here's my *revised edition* of the timeline. I'll add more of the
story sources as soon as I get time (right now I'm in the middle of a busy
school week).
<<| SCROOGE MCDUCK AND THE MCDUCK CLAN: Their (chronological!) trials and
tribulations |>>
|| ALL DATES ARE A.D. ||
880 - Sir Eider McDuck is born.
946 - Sir Eider McDuck's army is destroyed in battle against the saxons
because he won't spend money on arrows. Sir Eider McDuck dies.
1010 - Quackly McDuck is born.
1057 - Sir Quackly McDuck receives a chest full of gold and jewels from King
MacBeth in payment for protecting the king during the civil war. But when
Quackly hides the treasure in the castle wall, he accidentaly walls himself
in as well and dies.
1110 - Stuft McDuck is born.
1159 - Roast McDuck is born.
1175 - Stuft McDuck dies.
1190 - Sir Swamphole McDuck is born.
1205 - Sir Roast McDuck dies from overeating after raiding William The
Lionheart's pantry.
1220 - Sir Swamphole McDuck seals the dungeons because they are too
expensive to operate.
1260 - Sir Swamphole McDuck dies.
1530 - Pintail Duck is born. Malcolm McDuck is born.
1564 - Pintail Duck dies. Malcolm McDuck dies.
1579 - June: Francis Drake establishes Fort Drakeborough on the hill which
is destined to become Killmotor Hill. [ SOURCE: "His Majesty McDuck" by Don
Rosa ]
1675 - A Whiskerville dresses up as a giant monster dog and scares the
McDucks away from castle McDuck. [ SOURCE: "Hound of the Whiskervilles" by
Carl Barks ]
1710 - Seafoam McDuck is born.
1753 - Swindle McSue tricks Captain Seafoam McDuck into bringing a cargo of
horseradish to Jamaica, but sinks the boat secretly and then blames Seafoam
for loosing his horseradish. Captain Seafoam is forced to give all his
riches to Swindle McSue, except some gold teeth and a silver clock; both
family heirlooms. [ SOURCE: "Horseradish treasure" by Carl Barks ]
1776 - Seafoam McDuck dies.
1790 - Cornelius Coot is born.
1818 - Cornelius Coot aquires Fort Drakeborough and changes it's name to
Fort Duckburg.
1829 - Pothole McDuck is born.
1830 - Scrooges mother Downy McDuck is born. Scrooges father Fergus McDuck
is born. Clinton Coot is born.
1832 - Jake McDuck is born.
1855 - Elvira "Grandma" Duck is born.
1860 - Casey Coot is born.
1867 - Scrooge McDuck is born in Glasgow, Scotland!
1870 - A steamboat race takes place between Captain Pothole McDuck and
Captain "Porker" Hogg on the Mississippi. Both boats sink.
1871 - Matilda McDuck is born.
1875 - Scrooges first dime is minted in America. Quackmore Duck is born.
1876 - Hortense McDuck is born.
1877 - Scrooge earns his first dime.
1880 - Scrooge leaves for America. He arrives in Louisville, Kentucky
sometime in may in time for the 6th Kentucky Derby. Cornelius Coot dies.
1882 - Scrooge travels north from Kentucky and gets a job with the Wabash
Railroad line which travels along the Wabash river in Indiana. Soon he takes
a train heading west to Colorado but falls off the train 150KM from Wichita
near the western border of Missouri after having a brief encounter with
Jesse James.
1884 - Scrooge quits working for Murdo MacKenzie and goes to Butte. There he
has a brief encounter with Marcus Daly.
1885 - Scrooge meets John Rockerducks father Howard Rockerduck. Scrooge
gains a legal claim to the Anaconda coppermine thank's to the Law Of Apex of
1849.He is forced to make an out of court settlement with Marcus Daly
dropping the claim in return for a small sum of money because he has to go
to Scotland to help his family which is in dire financial straits. In
Scotland Scrooge meets the ghosts of his ancestors and saves Castle McDuck
from being bought by the Whiskervilles.
1886 - Scrooge travels to Africa to the Transvaal.
1889 - Scrooge leaves Africa and goes to Pizen Bluff in the U.S.A.
1893 - Scrooge leaves Arizona and goes to Kalgoorlie in Australia.
1896 - Scrooge arrives in Skagway, Alaska and meets Wyatt Earp. Scrooge
takes loan of Soapy Slick.
1897 - Scrooge finds his first gold nugget. May 10th: Scrooge is on the
frontpage of the "Klondike Courier" #121 for finding his first gold nugget.
Scrooges mother Downy McDuck dies.
1898 - January: Scrooge goes to Dawson City to get parts for his steam-drill
rig. There he encounters Glittering Goldie, Colonel Samuel Benfield Steele
(superintendent of the northwest mounted police of the Yukon), Jack London
and Cornelius Coots grandson Casey Coot. Scrooge returns to his claim in
White Agony Creek. Scrooge pays the last of his dept to Soapy Slick.
[ SOURCE: "Hearts of the Yukon" by Don Rosa, "The Life And Times Of Scrooge
McDuck *Part Nine*: The Millionaire Of Dismal Downs" by Don Rosa and "Only A
Poor Old Man" by Carl Barks ]
1899 - December:Scrooge has saved up his first million. Scrooge buys the
deed to Killmule (Scrooge later changes the name to Killmotor because of
problems ascending it with his car) hill from Casey Coot. Scrooge buys and
runs a bank in White Horse.
1902 - Scrooges father Fergus McDuck dies. Scrooge returns to Castle McDuck
planning to stay there. Scrooge buys his first red coat. Scrooge and his
sisters Hortense and Matilda journey to Duckburg, Calisota in America.
Scrooge has saved up his first billion in cash.
1904 - Scrooge sells recordings of "The Baggage Coach Ahead" at the 1904
world's fair.
1908 - Scrooge buys Goldpolis and Boomcity railroad shares for 50 dollars in
Nevada. Copperhead McViper and his brothers try to steal them, but fail. [
SOURCE: "Mystery of the Ghost Town Railroad" by Carl Barks ]
1909 - Scrooge returns briefly to Duckburg. He is now the 74th richest
person in the world. Scrooge meets his secretary Emily Quackfaster for the
first time. Scrooge and his two sisters travel to Africa. Does his first and
last dishonest deed there. Tribe chief puts Voodoo curse on Scrooge in the
form of Bombie the Zombie. Scrooges sisters return to Duckburg.
1910 - Scrooge buys his hat for 2 dollars in St.Petersburg and gets his cane
free with it. Clinton Coot dies.
1911 - Scrooge dives for treasure in the Caribbean on the Spanish Maine.
1920 - Donald Duck is born. Daisy Duck is born. Della Duck is born.
1929 - Collapse of the stock exchange in Duckburg.
1938 - May: Mysterious Aunt Fanny sends Gus Goose on visit to Donald Duck.
1940 - Huey, Dewey and Louie are born.
1947 - Donald meets his Uncle Scrooge for the second time in his life, Huey,
Dewey and Louie meet him for the first time. The "current"(that is, the
version of the Beagle Boys Don Rosa uses in his non-retrospective
stories(i.e. Most of the time the stories that don't deal with Scrooges
past)) Beagle Boys and Scrooge meet for the first time.
1952 - Scrooge has been in Duckburg for 50 years. in celebration of this
anniversary a newspaper announces that whoever suggests the best anniversary
gift for Scrooge will win "5 millioner kroner" (Norwegian). Magica De Spell,
the Beagle Boys and Flintheart Gloomgold team up and take advantage of the
situation by contriving yet another complicated plot designed to relieve
Scrooge of his money.The plan fails. During Scrooges troubles with the
villains he visits the "old city" which has disappeared below street-level.
Scrooge recieves a personal gift from his family and friends: a visit (and a
kiss) from old flame Glittering Goldie. [ SOURCE: "A Little Something
Special" by Don Rosa ]
1954 - Scrooge, Donald and Huey, Dewey, Louie go to Dawson to search for a
sled Scrooge lost long ago. Scrooge meets Glittering Goldie and Soapy Slick.
1955 - Captain "Porker" Hoggs nephew "Horseshoe" Hogg and Scrooge raise
their uncles riverboats from the bottom of the mississippi and finish the
race they started. Scrooge wins. [ SOURCE: "The Great Steamboat Race" by
Carl Barks ]
1967 - Scrooge McDuck dies?..........*And the tale continues...*
Ok, goodnight :-)
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Well, here's my *revised edition* of the timeline. I'll add more of the
story sources as soon as I get time (right now I'm in the middle of a busy
school week).
<<| SCROOGE MCDUCK AND THE MCDUCK CLAN: Their (chronological!) trials and
tribulations |>>
|| ALL DATES ARE A.D. ||
880 - Sir Eider McDuck is born.
946 - Sir Eider McDuck's army is destroyed in battle against the saxons
because he won't spend money on arrows. Sir Eider McDuck dies.
1010 - Quackly McDuck is born.
1057 - Sir Quackly McDuck receives a chest full of gold and jewels from King
MacBeth in payment for protecting the king during the civil war. But when
Quackly hides the treasure in the castle wall, he accidentaly walls himself
in as well and dies.
1110 - Stuft McDuck is born.
1159 - Roast McDuck is born.
1175 - Stuft McDuck dies.
1190 - Sir Swamphole McDuck is born.
1205 - Sir Roast McDuck dies from overeating after raiding William The
Lionheart's pantry.
1220 - Sir Swamphole McDuck seals the dungeons because they are too
expensive to operate.
1260 - Sir Swamphole McDuck dies.
1530 - Pintail Duck is born. Malcolm McDuck is born.
1564 - Pintail Duck dies. Malcolm McDuck dies.
1579 - June: Francis Drake establishes Fort Drakeborough on the hill which
is destined to become Killmotor Hill. [ SOURCE: "His Majesty McDuck" by Don
Rosa ]
1675 - A Whiskerville dresses up as a giant monster dog and scares the
McDucks away from castle McDuck. [ SOURCE: "Hound of the Whiskervilles" by
Carl Barks ]
1710 - Seafoam McDuck is born.
1753 - Swindle McSue tricks Captain Seafoam McDuck into bringing a cargo of
horseradish to Jamaica, but sinks the boat secretly and then blames Seafoam
for loosing his horseradish. Captain Seafoam is forced to give all his
riches to Swindle McSue, except some gold teeth and a silver clock; both
family heirlooms. [ SOURCE: "Horseradish treasure" by Carl Barks ]
1776 - Seafoam McDuck dies.
1790 - Cornelius Coot is born.
1818 - Cornelius Coot aquires Fort Drakeborough and changes it's name to
Fort Duckburg.
1829 - Pothole McDuck is born.
1830 - Scrooges mother Downy McDuck is born. Scrooges father Fergus McDuck
is born. Clinton Coot is born.
1832 - Jake McDuck is born.
1855 - Elvira "Grandma" Duck is born.
1860 - Casey Coot is born.
1867 - Scrooge McDuck is born in Glasgow, Scotland!
1870 - A steamboat race takes place between Captain Pothole McDuck and
Captain "Porker" Hogg on the Mississippi. Both boats sink.
1871 - Matilda McDuck is born.
1875 - Scrooges first dime is minted in America. Quackmore Duck is born.
1876 - Hortense McDuck is born.
1877 - Scrooge earns his first dime.
1880 - Scrooge leaves for America. He arrives in Louisville, Kentucky
sometime in may in time for the 6th Kentucky Derby. Cornelius Coot dies.
1882 - Scrooge travels north from Kentucky and gets a job with the Wabash
Railroad line which travels along the Wabash river in Indiana. Soon he takes
a train heading west to Colorado but falls off the train 150KM from Wichita
near the western border of Missouri after having a brief encounter with
Jesse James.
1884 - Scrooge quits working for Murdo MacKenzie and goes to Butte. There he
has a brief encounter with Marcus Daly.
1885 - Scrooge meets John Rockerducks father Howard Rockerduck. Scrooge
gains a legal claim to the Anaconda coppermine thank's to the Law Of Apex of
1849.He is forced to make an out of court settlement with Marcus Daly
dropping the claim in return for a small sum of money because he has to go
to Scotland to help his family which is in dire financial straits. In
Scotland Scrooge meets the ghosts of his ancestors and saves Castle McDuck
from being bought by the Whiskervilles.
1886 - Scrooge travels to Africa to the Transvaal.
1889 - Scrooge leaves Africa and goes to Pizen Bluff in the U.S.A.
1893 - Scrooge leaves Arizona and goes to Kalgoorlie in Australia.
1896 - Scrooge arrives in Skagway, Alaska and meets Wyatt Earp. Scrooge
takes loan of Soapy Slick.
1897 - Scrooge finds his first gold nugget. May 10th: Scrooge is on the
frontpage of the "Klondike Courier" #121 for finding his first gold nugget.
Scrooges mother Downy McDuck dies.
1898 - January: Scrooge goes to Dawson City to get parts for his steam-drill
rig. There he encounters Glittering Goldie, Colonel Samuel Benfield Steele
(superintendent of the northwest mounted police of the Yukon), Jack London
and Cornelius Coots grandson Casey Coot. Scrooge returns to his claim in
White Agony Creek. Scrooge pays the last of his dept to Soapy Slick.
[ SOURCE: "Hearts of the Yukon" by Don Rosa, "The Life And Times Of Scrooge
McDuck *Part Nine*: The Millionaire Of Dismal Downs" by Don Rosa and "Only A
Poor Old Man" by Carl Barks ]
1899 - December:Scrooge has saved up his first million. Scrooge buys the
deed to Killmule (Scrooge later changes the name to Killmotor because of
problems ascending it with his car) hill from Casey Coot. Scrooge buys and
runs a bank in White Horse.
1902 - Scrooges father Fergus McDuck dies. Scrooge returns to Castle McDuck
planning to stay there. Scrooge buys his first red coat. Scrooge and his
sisters Hortense and Matilda journey to Duckburg, Calisota in America.
Scrooge has saved up his first billion in cash.
1904 - Scrooge sells recordings of "The Baggage Coach Ahead" at the 1904
world's fair.
1908 - Scrooge buys Goldpolis and Boomcity railroad shares for 50 dollars in
Nevada. Copperhead McViper and his brothers try to steal them, but fail. [
SOURCE: "Mystery of the Ghost Town Railroad" by Carl Barks ]
1909 - Scrooge returns briefly to Duckburg. He is now the 74th richest
person in the world. Scrooge meets his secretary Emily Quackfaster for the
first time. Scrooge and his two sisters travel to Africa. Does his first and
last dishonest deed there. Tribe chief puts Voodoo curse on Scrooge in the
form of Bombie the Zombie. Scrooges sisters return to Duckburg.
1910 - Scrooge buys his hat for 2 dollars in St.Petersburg and gets his cane
free with it. Clinton Coot dies.
1911 - Scrooge dives for treasure in the Caribbean on the Spanish Maine.
1920 - Donald Duck is born. Daisy Duck is born. Della Duck is born.
1929 - Collapse of the stock exchange in Duckburg.
1938 - May: Mysterious Aunt Fanny sends Gus Goose on visit to Donald Duck.
1940 - Huey, Dewey and Louie are born.
1947 - Donald meets his Uncle Scrooge for the second time in his life, Huey,
Dewey and Louie meet him for the first time. The "current"(that is, the
version of the Beagle Boys Don Rosa uses in his non-retrospective
stories(i.e. Most of the time the stories that don't deal with Scrooges
past)) Beagle Boys and Scrooge meet for the first time.
1952 - Scrooge has been in Duckburg for 50 years. in celebration of this
anniversary a newspaper announces that whoever suggests the best anniversary
gift for Scrooge will win "5 millioner kroner" (Norwegian). Magica De Spell,
the Beagle Boys and Flintheart Gloomgold team up and take advantage of the
situation by contriving yet another complicated plot designed to relieve
Scrooge of his money.The plan fails. During Scrooges troubles with the
villains he visits the "old city" which has disappeared below street-level.
Scrooge recieves a personal gift from his family and friends: a visit (and a
kiss) from old flame Glittering Goldie. [ SOURCE: "A Little Something
Special" by Don Rosa ]
1954 - Scrooge, Donald and Huey, Dewey, Louie go to Dawson to search for a
sled Scrooge lost long ago. Scrooge meets Glittering Goldie and Soapy Slick.
1955 - Captain "Porker" Hoggs nephew "Horseshoe" Hogg and Scrooge raise
their uncles riverboats from the bottom of the mississippi and finish the
race they started. Scrooge wins. [ SOURCE: "The Great Steamboat Race" by
Carl Barks ]
1967 - Scrooge McDuck dies?..........*And the tale continues...*
Ok, goodnight :-)
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Prospecting in the asteroid belt
Message 120 -
1997-09-11 at 00:24:06
Fans of Don Rosa's recently published "Attack of the Hideous Space
Varmints" (a story in which Scrooge hops about from asteroid to asteroid
with pick and shovel in hand, prospecting for mineral riches) may want
to check out someone else's approach to this concept. It's at
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9709/10/asteroid.prospector.ap/
Wilmer Rivers
Varmints" (a story in which Scrooge hops about from asteroid to asteroid
with pick and shovel in hand, prospecting for mineral riches) may want
to check out someone else's approach to this concept. It's at
http://www.cnn.com/TECH/9709/10/asteroid.prospector.ap/
Wilmer Rivers