Hi everyone! Another belated attempt to catch up...
Rich Bellacera wrote:
<<I still haven't seen "Runaway Brain" since it was first showing with "A Kid
in King Arthur's Court" (which I didn't want to pay $7.50 just to watch a 7
minute cartoon... I had no desire to see the main feature), but I recently
heard it is showing with "George of the Jungle" (another movie I wasn't too
anxious to see), and now that tickets are $8.00 I think I'll wait a little
longer and see it in the $4.00 cinema (you know the ones where older movies
go to die and be reincarnated in video... but I digress). >>
Apparently not everwhere. I've seen "George of the Jungle," but there
was, alas, no Mickey Mouse cartoon playing with it. (Maybe they thought it
was superfluous with a feature that was a live-action version of an old Jay
Ward cartoon?)
Dwight Decker wrote:
<<In every way, shape, and form, "acre" is a measurement of surface area, not
volume. "Cubic acre" is a humorous Barksian absurdity.>>
Maybe that was the intention...to come up with an immense but nonexistent
designation for the size of $crooge's vault (much like the amount of his
fortune--e.g., "Five billion quintuplatillion umptupatillion multuplatillion
impossibidillion fantasticatrillion dollars and sixteen cents")
David Gerstein wrote:
<<IMHO, Gottfredson was definitely Mickey's Carl Barks. He *did* give
Mickey the focused creative vision you speak of, and his peak period is, for
me, 1932-1942. The real problem comes because about *half* of the stories
from that period are banned, so most of us haven't seen them.>>
Agreed absolutely! He had a handle on Mickey's personality that made the
stories genuinely engrossing and touching...not just exciting and funny.
<<Funny you should mention this. Gladstone and Scrooge began as
exaggerations of Donald's own cockiness and greed; even though they
developed into more than just that, they remained characters whose very
existence caused Donald to deal with his own versions of those same
failings.>>
Exactly! Wasn't it established that they were based on two of Donald's
conflicting impulses as shown in the cartoon SPIRIT OF '43? Just as Disney
and other studios frequently showed tiny doubles of Donald and other
characters as angels and devils, or (in REASON AND EMOTION) prim sissies and
cavemen, so Donald was shown with a spendthrift side (who evolved into
Gladstone) and a miserly side (who became $crooge)? I think Barks worked on
the cartoon while at Disney, so he was only borrowing from himself...or at
least from his own studio, which anyone's expected to do while developing
their character...and what he did with both characters ($crooge especially)
to make them memorable in their own right was even more remarkable.
<<IMHO, Horace, Eega Beeva, Minnie, and Butch can be viewed as
extensions of Mickey's cockiness, creativity, temper, and mischievousness, so
it's possible to use them in that alter-ego manner. For me, Goofy does not
reflect an aspect of Mickey's character, so I can't do the alter-ego stuff
with him.>>
Why not? Even intelligent people, especially creative intelligent people,
can be stupid at times. To me, it's harder to imagine Minnie as Mickey's
alter-ego, even though she *does* look incredibly like Mickey in drag (a fact
Gottfredson at least once used to fine effect, in "Monarch of
Medioka")--hardly Mickey's style! (Now if you were writing about, say, Bugs
Bunny...)
Fredrik Sandstrom wrote:
<<Has any Disney comics creator written gags similar to the prof. Tournesol
(Calculus is his English name I believe) gags about his bad hearing? Some of
them are really funny, but I'm sure they wouldn't pass the Disney censors,
would they?>>
I can think of a few near-deaf characters in the cartoons...the Colonel
(an Old English sheepdog) in 101 DALMATIANS comes to mind, who misinterpreted
a relayed message about 15 stolen puppies being about 15 spotted PUDDLES.
(Needless to say, the live-action remake last year dropped *all* the animals'
dialogue.) But they've been getting more and more politically correct of
late; they've been agonizing over complaints about making a live-action movie
about Mr. Magoo, the original UPA cartoon character whose concept is that
he's half-blind...
<<And alcohol seems to be banned in Disney comics... The only reference I can
think of is the two page story KFS 6/26/38 reprinted by Gladstone in MM#253.
Goofy's in jail explaining to Mickey: "Well, I wuz pinched fer disturbin'
th' peace---uh-haw---bein' drunk an' disorderly and incitin' a riot!
Uh-haw-haw!" This really surprised me when I first read it!>>
CERTAINLY not in the cartoons. A number of counterexamples come to mind,
from the "Pink Elephants on Parade" song in DUMBO through the tipsy kings in
SLEEPING BEAUTY to the drunken goose (almost basted in brandy) in THE
ARISTOCATS. Ironically enough, I'm told there was a series of Tintin cartoons
some years back that faithfully adapted the albums except for eliminating
Capt. Haddock's alcoholism and Prof. Calculus' deafness. Evidently Tintin's
owners (still Herge at that point, right?) thought what was acceptable in
comics wouldn't be so in cartoons, whereas Disney seems to think exactly the
opposite!
Donald Markstein wrote:
<<When I first read Barks -- early to middle 1950s -- I didn't "hear" Scrooge
with any accent at all. But later, there was a story -- I don't recall the
title, but it involved an amnesia ray and repeated trips to Dismal Swamp --
in which it was specifically stated, by Barks, that he speaks with a Scottish
accent. Later still, when he was first animated (first VOICED, I should say,
since his first animated appearance was in the opening to "Mickey Mouse
Club"), he was clearly depicted that way. And down through the decades, every
time he is done with an audible voice, it's a Scottish one.>>
I think it's pretty well established, then. I still find it hard to
"hear" Scrooge with any kind of accent...but then, I also find it hard to
read a Barks or Rosa story and "hear" Donald talking with Clarence Nash's (or
now, I suppose, Tony Anselmo's) quacking voice, too. Many others have said
they don't "hear" him that way, either...so who can say? Barks very likely
did...but then again, Barks first encountered Donald as a cartoon character,
whereas many of us first knew him from the comics....
<<Warner Bros. kept their WWII toons in general circulation for decades after
the end of the war; and even now, you can find them in collections devoted to
that theme -- but Disney's wartime animation has just about slipped into a
Black Hole.>>
Even though, ironically enough, Warner Bros. for many years didn't *own*
its WWII cartoons! They were sold to an outfit called a.a.p. (which also
bought out the Paramount Popeye cartoons), thence to several other people
ending up with Ted Turner, who just recently sold them back to Warner Bros.
(along with the cartoon output of several other studios including MGM and
Hanna-Barbera).
<<In fact, in the recent trend of numbering the Disney animated features,
they seem not to be counting "Victory Through Air Power".>>
They don't include "The Black Cauldron" either, but they do include "The
Many Adventures of Winnie-the-Pooh," which was a compilation of short
cartoons. Who knows where their corporate minds were at?
<<Of course, the Warner cartoons remain truly funny even after all this
time; whereas I suspect, from the few snatches I've seen, the Disneys might
have been mostly jingoistic. Maybe Disney has buried them because it's
embarrassed at how badly they've aged.>>
Oh, I'm sure some of them have aged well---particularly,. by most
accounts, "Der Fuehrer's Face." Disney did include a couple--CHICKEN LITTLE
and (at least parts of) REASON AND EMOTION on the TV episode, "Man Is His Own
Worst Enemy," though those were the cartoons and fragments least specific in
regard to the war...
Ota wrote:
<<I would also know if the Donald short Der Fuehrer's face is banned too. I
think I've seen that cartoon in an old Disneyland show in the fifties. But
today that cartoon is not available on video, nor even in that Oscar-winning
Disney toons tape. Well I'm collecting such info, so if someone has some
info...>>
I've heard that, but I still can't see why. Some have said it was now
seen as too anti-German. (Nonsense! It's not anti-German but anti-Nazi, and
surely it can't be politically incorrect to be anti-Nazi. I don't see Disney
banning BEDKNOBS & BROOMSTICKS.) About the only other thing I can think of
was that they thought it was too crude, with the implied flatulence of "Ve
heil! Heil! Right in der Fuehrer's Face!"...but surely not after Pumbaa the
Warthog in THE LION KING! So I just...don't...know.
Brix Lichtenberg wrote:
<<I'm a big fan of Romano Scarpa (next to Barks and Don). I completely agree
with those who mentioned earlier on this list that Scarpa wrote some Mickey
(and Ducks) stories ranking in the same class as Barks' and Gottfredson's.
Those stories, a lot of them reprinted in Germany's LT, were the main reason
why Mickey never occurred to me as a boring character.>>
I am too! Even during the original run of Gladstone, I was impressed by
Scarpa's work...his stories remain my all-time favorite Disney comics stories
by anyone other than Barks, Gottfredson, and Rosa. One story that came to
mind in particular was the "Monarch of Medioka" twist in which it was Pete
who replaced a look-alike foreign king...and he and Mickey ended in a
superbly-staged sword fight in which both combatants' clothes and Pete's
artificial leg (!) were torn to pieces. (All their clothes, that is, *except*
their gloves! Is there some ironclad rule that Mickey and the rest can
*never* remove their gloves? Strange, because in one very early MM strip
Mickey *did* take them off to go swimming...and a strip by Walt Disney
himself and Ub Iwerks at that!)
Author
Topic: 199709
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RMorris306
Recent Disney Digests
Message 16 -
1997-09-02 at 08:58:50
Ram Samudrala
Treasure of Ten Avatars revisited (Response to Don Rosa)
Message 17 -
1997-09-02 at 09:02:14
I'm sorry, but I was travelling and only had a chance to read this
today. Thus the delayed response:
Don Rosa wrote:
>> From: Ram Samudrala
>> I'm just reading the new Rosa stories. I've not gotten to the Life
>> and Times part 6.5, but I just finished the Treasure of the Ten
>> Avatars: the story is incredibly clever in terms of use of the Hindu
>> mythology though the art I don't think is of Rosa's usual quality
>!!! No? Please tell me why exactly, so I can see what you mean and
>try to improve.
I don't think this is an ongoing problem; I think you're the best Duck
artist. It's just this time I was not impressed as usual, for one main
reason. My general impression was that the art had been hurried.
There were panels where you seemed to not concentrate on the
Ducks' faces. For example, in page 2 panel 7, page 2 panel 10, page 5
panel 8, page 6 panel 1, and many others, the newphews are not drawn
properly. Their faces are either disfigured or the eyes are just dots
(which bothers me a lot).
I understand this could've been due to space restrictions, but I'm
just saying how I felt. Also, sometimes in the same panel size and
same perspective, you're able to get the newphews to look good.
For more examples, the panel where Donald says "get a load of the
chubby elephant boy" is a prime of example of what bothers me. Here
both Donald and Scrooge are barely okay, and the newphews look bad (to
me). I think that could've been better in a bigger panel (like how
you did it at the bottom) or on two panels. Also, in panels 2, 4, and
5 you have great art, but in panel 3 Kama and Dharma), you do the
dotted eyes again.
I hope I am not offending you. I am not an art expert; I can only say
what I feel is good or not good. I can't recall if you've done this
before, and if you have, it hasn't bothered me. It's just that this
time, it seemed to happen a lot.
>I always hope people buy Gladstone products to help insure the shaky
>presence of decent Disney comics in North America.
Yes, but there's so much that one has to choose. Since I already have
two copies of Life and Times (and will eventually buy the single
issues), perhaps I should get the 6 issue GG set.
BTW, I too feel Disney comics is lacking a strong presence here in the
U.S. but I just moved to Stanford and there're stores here where back
issues of Disney overwhelm any other title's backissues. In fact, I
just found the first issue of the Carl Barks Library of Walt Disney
Comics and Stories in Colour. I also found these one-off stories for
69 cents each by Whitman (?). Anyone know anything about them?
--Ram
(Email removed) || http://www.ram.org || http://www.twisted-helices.com/th
"So it's going to cut down on technological innovations, efficiency
and so on, but it will happen to increase profits by accident.
Well, that's intellectual property rights." ---Noam Chomsky on GATT.
today. Thus the delayed response:
Don Rosa wrote:
>> From: Ram Samudrala
>> I'm just reading the new Rosa stories. I've not gotten to the Life
>> and Times part 6.5, but I just finished the Treasure of the Ten
>> Avatars: the story is incredibly clever in terms of use of the Hindu
>> mythology though the art I don't think is of Rosa's usual quality
>!!! No? Please tell me why exactly, so I can see what you mean and
>try to improve.
I don't think this is an ongoing problem; I think you're the best Duck
artist. It's just this time I was not impressed as usual, for one main
reason. My general impression was that the art had been hurried.
There were panels where you seemed to not concentrate on the
Ducks' faces. For example, in page 2 panel 7, page 2 panel 10, page 5
panel 8, page 6 panel 1, and many others, the newphews are not drawn
properly. Their faces are either disfigured or the eyes are just dots
(which bothers me a lot).
I understand this could've been due to space restrictions, but I'm
just saying how I felt. Also, sometimes in the same panel size and
same perspective, you're able to get the newphews to look good.
For more examples, the panel where Donald says "get a load of the
chubby elephant boy" is a prime of example of what bothers me. Here
both Donald and Scrooge are barely okay, and the newphews look bad (to
me). I think that could've been better in a bigger panel (like how
you did it at the bottom) or on two panels. Also, in panels 2, 4, and
5 you have great art, but in panel 3 Kama and Dharma), you do the
dotted eyes again.
I hope I am not offending you. I am not an art expert; I can only say
what I feel is good or not good. I can't recall if you've done this
before, and if you have, it hasn't bothered me. It's just that this
time, it seemed to happen a lot.
>I always hope people buy Gladstone products to help insure the shaky
>presence of decent Disney comics in North America.
Yes, but there's so much that one has to choose. Since I already have
two copies of Life and Times (and will eventually buy the single
issues), perhaps I should get the 6 issue GG set.
BTW, I too feel Disney comics is lacking a strong presence here in the
U.S. but I just moved to Stanford and there're stores here where back
issues of Disney overwhelm any other title's backissues. In fact, I
just found the first issue of the Carl Barks Library of Walt Disney
Comics and Stories in Colour. I also found these one-off stories for
69 cents each by Whitman (?). Anyone know anything about them?
--Ram
(Email removed) || http://www.ram.org || http://www.twisted-helices.com/th
"So it's going to cut down on technological innovations, efficiency
and so on, but it will happen to increase profits by accident.
Well, that's intellectual property rights." ---Noam Chomsky on GATT.
Soeren Schridde
Disney comics Digest V97 #184
Message 18 -
1997-09-02 at 12:37:12
Kriton:
> All this discussion about cubic acres reminded me of something I'd written
> in my high school days, where, without yet having read any references
> to Barks' "cubic acres", I had come up with the term "cubic kilo". I
> wonder if someone could explain to me what *that* is!!! (A cube with
> edges 1 kilo "long"?!?)
I MIGHT BE WRONG as physics lessons are a lot of time behind me, but
I think you're wrong, especially with cubic:
I think "to the third power" doesn't necessarily mean cubic...
so a kilo to the third power - I'd think of it as follows: kilo is
defined as the gravitation by the earth on a certain mass at a special height (on
Mount Everest, things weigh less...) so kilo to the third power would
be this gravitation (on earth on the same mass at the same height) to the
third power ...
If this is "what lawyers think of physics", then correct me! ;-)
>And alcohol seems to be banned in Disney comics... The only reference
>I can think of is the two page story KFS 6/26/38 reprinted by
>Gladstone in MM#253.
I remember the MM story, where a scientists magnifies two atoms to
human size, and they turn out to be living beings... one nice, the
other one evil... together with Pete it blackmails the town with its
supernatural abilitues... hunting them, the police catches some
persons destilling alcohol illegally...
and don't people in $crooges Yukon days drink in goldies saloon or on
the steamboat of soapy slick?
And finally, there is a story in German LT, where Scrooge and an
opponent, (not Flintheart, but German name Klaas Klever) where they
try to get something of an owner of a castle ... and thus donate dark
and s edifferent beer... Klaas is wrong and thrown out...
> Going to get some crackers and camembr-- cammembr-- swiss,
maybe camenbert?
;-)
Soeren Schridde
Kurt-Tucholsky-Str.1
49088 Osnabrueck
Germany
eMail: (Email removed)
Tel./Fax: Acc.Code+ 541/150764
> All this discussion about cubic acres reminded me of something I'd written
> in my high school days, where, without yet having read any references
> to Barks' "cubic acres", I had come up with the term "cubic kilo". I
> wonder if someone could explain to me what *that* is!!! (A cube with
> edges 1 kilo "long"?!?)
I MIGHT BE WRONG as physics lessons are a lot of time behind me, but
I think you're wrong, especially with cubic:
I think "to the third power" doesn't necessarily mean cubic...
so a kilo to the third power - I'd think of it as follows: kilo is
defined as the gravitation by the earth on a certain mass at a special height (on
Mount Everest, things weigh less...) so kilo to the third power would
be this gravitation (on earth on the same mass at the same height) to the
third power ...
If this is "what lawyers think of physics", then correct me! ;-)
>And alcohol seems to be banned in Disney comics... The only reference
>I can think of is the two page story KFS 6/26/38 reprinted by
>Gladstone in MM#253.
I remember the MM story, where a scientists magnifies two atoms to
human size, and they turn out to be living beings... one nice, the
other one evil... together with Pete it blackmails the town with its
supernatural abilitues... hunting them, the police catches some
persons destilling alcohol illegally...
and don't people in $crooges Yukon days drink in goldies saloon or on
the steamboat of soapy slick?
And finally, there is a story in German LT, where Scrooge and an
opponent, (not Flintheart, but German name Klaas Klever) where they
try to get something of an owner of a castle ... and thus donate dark
and s edifferent beer... Klaas is wrong and thrown out...
> Going to get some crackers and camembr-- cammembr-- swiss,
maybe camenbert?
;-)
Soeren Schridde
Kurt-Tucholsky-Str.1
49088 Osnabrueck
Germany
eMail: (Email removed)
Tel./Fax: Acc.Code+ 541/150764
Ole R. Nielsen
Gladstone's Hardcover LaToSMD
Message 19 -
1997-09-02 at 14:45:57
GARY:
A month ago you wrote about the long-awaited collected Life (and Times)
of Scrooge (McDuck) which will be sent out in two months time.
What I'm wondering is how the page count of 220 is arrived at?
According to our database the 12 chapters sum up to 212 pages (15+28+15+
15+15+12+15+24+15+15+24+19) as they were published in Uncle $crooge #285-
296, not counting the 12 covers.
The Egmont version is only 209 pages, and the covers were not published
here in Denmark - except for a special one for chapter 1/2.
So what are the 8 extra pages? The rejected sketches from the beginning
of the saga describing the rise of the clan McDuich? Various panels and
splashpages cut from the Egmont version? A problem with simple arithmetic?
I know you asked inquries to be in private mail, but others may be
interested in these questions.
Me, I'm still pondering if I should buy the Gladstone version or the
Danish version when that comes out. But Egmont isn't advertising in
advance at all. Not in public anyway. The market here is of course also
a bit different from the American: the Scrooge 50 years anniversary
was celebrated with two cheap books - one with "Only a Poor Old Man"
and "Back to the Klondike", and a 640 page pocket at only 12$.
Can anyone at Egmont tell me anything about the Egmont "Life of Scrooge"
book; like what's in it, an approximate price, and when to expect it?
An answer a little more precise than "Don's 12 chapter story; less than
50$; and before Christmas" would be appreciated. :-)
Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen, now <ornils AT deepthough DOT aabc DOT dk>
A month ago you wrote about the long-awaited collected Life (and Times)
of Scrooge (McDuck) which will be sent out in two months time.
What I'm wondering is how the page count of 220 is arrived at?
According to our database the 12 chapters sum up to 212 pages (15+28+15+
15+15+12+15+24+15+15+24+19) as they were published in Uncle $crooge #285-
296, not counting the 12 covers.
The Egmont version is only 209 pages, and the covers were not published
here in Denmark - except for a special one for chapter 1/2.
So what are the 8 extra pages? The rejected sketches from the beginning
of the saga describing the rise of the clan McDuich? Various panels and
splashpages cut from the Egmont version? A problem with simple arithmetic?
I know you asked inquries to be in private mail, but others may be
interested in these questions.
Me, I'm still pondering if I should buy the Gladstone version or the
Danish version when that comes out. But Egmont isn't advertising in
advance at all. Not in public anyway. The market here is of course also
a bit different from the American: the Scrooge 50 years anniversary
was celebrated with two cheap books - one with "Only a Poor Old Man"
and "Back to the Klondike", and a 640 page pocket at only 12$.
Can anyone at Egmont tell me anything about the Egmont "Life of Scrooge"
book; like what's in it, an approximate price, and when to expect it?
An answer a little more precise than "Don's 12 chapter story; less than
50$; and before Christmas" would be appreciated. :-)
Ole 'RoC' Reichstein Nielsen, now <ornils AT deepthough DOT aabc DOT dk>
Francois Willot
Vicar
Message 20 -
1997-09-02 at 17:14:43
I've just seen something that, I think, may be an interesting info to
all of you.
The Danish story "Donald Duck, A Lucky Duck" (D 97044), was recently
drawn and ***written*** by Victor Arriagada Rios, well-known as "Vicar".
I don't know if this is the first time (after 26 years!) that Vicar
actually write a story, but this is absolutely new to me. The story is
12 pages and was probably published around issue 33 (August 1997) in the
Egmont countries. Is there anyone here that remember such a story? Is
Vicar also a good writer?
Francois
all of you.
The Danish story "Donald Duck, A Lucky Duck" (D 97044), was recently
drawn and ***written*** by Victor Arriagada Rios, well-known as "Vicar".
I don't know if this is the first time (after 26 years!) that Vicar
actually write a story, but this is absolutely new to me. The story is
12 pages and was probably published around issue 33 (August 1997) in the
Egmont countries. Is there anyone here that remember such a story? Is
Vicar also a good writer?
Francois
Ota
drunkness, deafness and politically uncorrect stuff
Message 21 -
1997-09-02 at 20:01:49
In RMorris' revision of last digests I found (maybe quoted from someone):
"I'm told there was a series of Tintin cartoons some years back that faithfully adapted the
albums except for eliminating Capt. Haddock's alcoholism and Prof. Calculus' deafness."
Hey. Maybe Haddock's alchoolism was amenized but Calculus/Tournesol is ideed deaf all the
time. Thanks to God, or the character would have no reason to exhist.
The ghost of politically uncorrect must be exorcized. That's why we're missing a lot of funny
stuff that wasn't intended to offend sobody when some toons or comics were created. If we
follow the politically uncorrect bible straightly, more than the half of Bark's material
should be banned, and that would be a pity.
The problem is, people who censor toons and comics don't read them. And other people find
things where they don't really exhist.
Some 25 years ago Armand Matelaart and Ariel Dorfman wrote a book in Chile - in the original
"Para leer al Pato Donald" (to Read Donald Duck). 90 percent of the book execrates Bark's
work. I hate that book. They read a lot of stories, but not for the pleasure of reading them
-- justo to try and find uncorrect stuff. Aaargh!!!!
As a creator I was always a victim of those people. Once I had a character that was a blind
man. So as he was a blind the government put him in charge of the control department of
everything, so government people could keep stealing money from the people. Well I was fired
for that. Not because of government people, but due to the pressure of a blind people
association that got very angry when they "read" the strips. And the main goal of the story
was to show that only a blindman couldnt see that the government was corrupt. Bleargh!!!
Turner censored a lot of pieces of its inventory of pre-48 Warners and MGM toons that aren't
exhibited today in the Cartoon Network. I hope someday someone up there has the idea to do a
politically uncorrect special. So they could exhibit everything and tell: hey, people, these
toons are politically uncorrect today and stuff like that should not be done anymore, but back
in the forties it was not a crime to do such things. What can't be denied is that, politically
uncorrect or not, those stories and toons are historical pieces.Bearghhhh... boo for the
censors!
"I'm told there was a series of Tintin cartoons some years back that faithfully adapted the
albums except for eliminating Capt. Haddock's alcoholism and Prof. Calculus' deafness."
Hey. Maybe Haddock's alchoolism was amenized but Calculus/Tournesol is ideed deaf all the
time. Thanks to God, or the character would have no reason to exhist.
The ghost of politically uncorrect must be exorcized. That's why we're missing a lot of funny
stuff that wasn't intended to offend sobody when some toons or comics were created. If we
follow the politically uncorrect bible straightly, more than the half of Bark's material
should be banned, and that would be a pity.
The problem is, people who censor toons and comics don't read them. And other people find
things where they don't really exhist.
Some 25 years ago Armand Matelaart and Ariel Dorfman wrote a book in Chile - in the original
"Para leer al Pato Donald" (to Read Donald Duck). 90 percent of the book execrates Bark's
work. I hate that book. They read a lot of stories, but not for the pleasure of reading them
-- justo to try and find uncorrect stuff. Aaargh!!!!
As a creator I was always a victim of those people. Once I had a character that was a blind
man. So as he was a blind the government put him in charge of the control department of
everything, so government people could keep stealing money from the people. Well I was fired
for that. Not because of government people, but due to the pressure of a blind people
association that got very angry when they "read" the strips. And the main goal of the story
was to show that only a blindman couldnt see that the government was corrupt. Bleargh!!!
Turner censored a lot of pieces of its inventory of pre-48 Warners and MGM toons that aren't
exhibited today in the Cartoon Network. I hope someday someone up there has the idea to do a
politically uncorrect special. So they could exhibit everything and tell: hey, people, these
toons are politically uncorrect today and stuff like that should not be done anymore, but back
in the forties it was not a crime to do such things. What can't be denied is that, politically
uncorrect or not, those stories and toons are historical pieces.Bearghhhh... boo for the
censors!
Mike Schneiderath
Update on german Rosa Album #14
Message 22 -
1997-09-02 at 20:56:57
I can now give you some more information on the new German "Onkel Dagobert
by Don Rosa" Album.
The Album contains a new drawn cover and four Rosa Stories:
AR119 : Schwaenzen will gelernt sein (Metaphorically spanking)
d90057: Der Lanschaftsarchitekt (The master Landscapist)
d90161: satellitenj?ger (The duck that fell to earth)
d90345: Abw?rts (Incident at the McDuck Tower)
As in the last Albums Don wrote comments to each story that give"more or
less deep impresssions into the developements of the stories"
(quote from the back cover).
And ... in the Metaphorically spanking story panel 3-page 1 they deleted
all the text in the book one of the nephews is reading...besides the
D.U.C.K., so this one is very easy to spot there!
Mike out!
by Don Rosa" Album.
The Album contains a new drawn cover and four Rosa Stories:
AR119 : Schwaenzen will gelernt sein (Metaphorically spanking)
d90057: Der Lanschaftsarchitekt (The master Landscapist)
d90161: satellitenj?ger (The duck that fell to earth)
d90345: Abw?rts (Incident at the McDuck Tower)
As in the last Albums Don wrote comments to each story that give"more or
less deep impresssions into the developements of the stories"
(quote from the back cover).
And ... in the Metaphorically spanking story panel 3-page 1 they deleted
all the text in the book one of the nephews is reading...besides the
D.U.C.K., so this one is very easy to spot there!
Mike out!
Vidar Svendsen
Recent Disney Digests
Message 23 -
1997-09-02 at 21:45:36
On Scrooge and his accent
Funny... I kind of hear my own voice when I Scrooge is speaking
in the comics. :-)
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
"I don't remember"
Funny... I kind of hear my own voice when I Scrooge is speaking
in the comics. :-)
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
"I don't remember"
Ole R. Nielsen
Cartoon Comics
Message 24 -
1997-09-03 at 15:35:46
I'll be bothering the Gladstone guys again:
In the Dutch weeklies some 18 stories appeared during the mid-80'es.
These were 4-5 page versions of cartoons like "Moving Day", "Mickey's
Trailer", "Officer Duck", "Thru the Mirror and even "Plane Crazy".
They were unusual by not being 'drawn' comics, but rather cells from
the cartoons with speech bubbles added. Maybe a little room could be
found for one or two of these in WDC&S, where the paper quality would
allow these to appear as attractively as they did in the Dutch books.
One of them, "Donald's Golf Game" from 1938 even had Barks as one
of the scripters/gag men, so it would qualify as another 'first' in
the comic book media. On your side of the pond anyway.
Unfortunately I don't have exact codes for them (even if Harry says
they code everything) except for something like "TEK 1938". The golf
story was in #16, 1986 and is a trifle of four pages long.
Not too difficult to fit in, and you wouldn't even need to pay a
translator, just a VCR.
Ole 'R.O.C.' Reichstein Nielsen
(RoC is _not_ an abbreviation of anything, just a sort of nickname.
It appears on Don's cover of USA #51 as a favor to me. Thanks again,
Don, though I'm slightly disappointed no-one seemed to notice it...)
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #187
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In the Dutch weeklies some 18 stories appeared during the mid-80'es.
These were 4-5 page versions of cartoons like "Moving Day", "Mickey's
Trailer", "Officer Duck", "Thru the Mirror and even "Plane Crazy".
They were unusual by not being 'drawn' comics, but rather cells from
the cartoons with speech bubbles added. Maybe a little room could be
found for one or two of these in WDC&S, where the paper quality would
allow these to appear as attractively as they did in the Dutch books.
One of them, "Donald's Golf Game" from 1938 even had Barks as one
of the scripters/gag men, so it would qualify as another 'first' in
the comic book media. On your side of the pond anyway.
Unfortunately I don't have exact codes for them (even if Harry says
they code everything) except for something like "TEK 1938". The golf
story was in #16, 1986 and is a trifle of four pages long.
Not too difficult to fit in, and you wouldn't even need to pay a
translator, just a VCR.
Ole 'R.O.C.' Reichstein Nielsen
(RoC is _not_ an abbreviation of anything, just a sort of nickname.
It appears on Don's cover of USA #51 as a favor to me. Thanks again,
Don, though I'm slightly disappointed no-one seemed to notice it...)
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #187
******************************************
Henri Sivonen
Disney comics Digest V97 #172
Message 25 -
1997-09-03 at 17:24:57
Tim Otterburg,
Sorry for the delayed answer. I falling behing reading the digests (again).
>Henri Sivonen wrote:
>Are there any Disney comics published in Swiss German ?
>
>Hi Henri, how do I have to read your questions ?
>If it's just a neutral question about the existence of Disney comics
>in Swiss German, then I can tell you that I wish there were, but
>I haven't found any yet.
This was what I meant. When I was in Switzerland earlier this year (staying
in a French-speaking family), I was told that Swiss German is really a
different language and not just dialect of German. Considering that even
newspapers and school books are in German German (right?), I wondered if
Swiss German Disney comics are non-existent. (Why the TV programs are
dubbed in German German and not subtitled in Swiss German?)
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed)
WWW: http://www.clinet.fi/~henris/
Sorry for the delayed answer. I falling behing reading the digests (again).
>Henri Sivonen wrote:
>Are there any Disney comics published in Swiss German ?
>
>Hi Henri, how do I have to read your questions ?
>If it's just a neutral question about the existence of Disney comics
>in Swiss German, then I can tell you that I wish there were, but
>I haven't found any yet.
This was what I meant. When I was in Switzerland earlier this year (staying
in a French-speaking family), I was told that Swiss German is really a
different language and not just dialect of German. Considering that even
newspapers and school books are in German German (right?), I wondered if
Swiss German Disney comics are non-existent. (Why the TV programs are
dubbed in German German and not subtitled in Swiss German?)
--
Henri Sivonen
(Email removed)
WWW: http://www.clinet.fi/~henris/
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #187
Message 26 -
1997-09-03 at 17:49:20
SOEREN:
> I MIGHT BE WRONG as physics lessons are a lot of time behind me, but
> I think you're wrong, especially with cubic:
> I think "to the third power" doesn't necessarily mean cubic...
> so a kilo to the third power - I'd think of it as follows: kilo is
> defined as the gravitation by the earth on a certain mass at a special height (on
> Mount Everest, things weigh less...) so kilo to the third power would
> be this gravitation (on earth on the same mass at the same height) to the
> third power ...
First of all, a "kilo" is short for "kilogram", which is a unit of mass, not
weight. By coincidence, at sea level, at a certain latitude (and for most
intents and purposes almost everywhere on Earth), a kilogram of mass has a
weight of one kilopond (a unit of weight), so in everyday life one usually
does not distinguish between the two: groceries can be measured either using a
balance (measures mass) or scales with a spring mechanism (measures weight).
However, if you ever go to Mars, I'd recommend that you insist that the grocer
weighs your groceries with a balance!!!
I think it is time to explain what is "dimension" in units of measurement is,
to which I had referred in previous postings. This is from what little I
remember from my high school physics, so if there are any physicists in the
lists, please don't hit me too hard if there any inaccuracies below.
In physics, it is common practice to measure things in a consistent system.
This has the advantage that whenever you apply a formula to derive a quantity
(e.g., speed) from other quantities (e.g., distance traveled and time
required), the result is guaranteed to be a unit in that system, and not
require a conversion. To do this, a few "fundamental" quantities are
selected, their units are defined, and the units for all other quantities are
derived from the above by applying the various laws of physics. The most
common system currently in use is SI (Systeme Internationale), but since I am
not familiar with it, I'll talk about its predecessor, MKSA (= Meter,
Kilogram, Second, Ampere). In this system, the fundamental quantities are
length, mass, time, and electrical current, and the units are those mentioned
above. All other units are expressed in terms of the above. Now, the
"dimension" of a unit of measurement (or, indeed, the quantity measured) is
the ordered set of exponents to which each of the fundamental units must be
raised to obtain the unit in question.
A few examples:
Quantity Unit Dimension
---------------------------------------------
length m (1, 0, 0, 0)
speed m/s (1, 0, -1, 0)
acceleration m/(s^2) (1, 0, -2, 0)
force kg*m/(s^2) (1, 1, -2, 0) (This is called a "Newton")
electric charge A*s (0, 0, 1, 1) (This is called a "Coulomb")
In this system, there is no place for a "cubic acre", as the unit of
measurement for areas is the square meter. On the other hand, an acre is
equivalent to a square meter times a constant, so a cubic acre is a square
meter cubed (just like a cubic meter is a meter cubed), times another
constant. Thus, the dimension of the quantity a cubic acre measures is
(6, 0, 0, 0). Therefore, in terms of linear dimensions, a cubic acre is a
six-dimensional object!
The fundamental quantities need not be the four mentioned above, nor need they
be four. E.g., I understand that SI has a few more, and another old system,
CGS (Centimeter, gram, second) had only three, with electrical quantities
having bizarre, often fractional, dimensions (if I am not mistaken, electric
charge, e.g., would have a dimension of (3/2, 1/2, -1) in this system!)
As for my cubic kilo, depending on whether I meant cubic kilogram or cubic
kilopond, its dimension would be either (0, 3, 0, 0) or (3, 3, -6, 0) in MKSA;
a nonsense quantity, as I had meant it to be.
VIDAR:
> Funny... I kind of hear my own voice when I Scrooge is speaking
> in the comics. :-)
No, no, he speaks with *MY* voice when I read Scrooge's voice in the comics! ;-)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"I haven't changed the course of history; indeed, I'm expressly forbidden so
to do!"
-----
> I MIGHT BE WRONG as physics lessons are a lot of time behind me, but
> I think you're wrong, especially with cubic:
> I think "to the third power" doesn't necessarily mean cubic...
> so a kilo to the third power - I'd think of it as follows: kilo is
> defined as the gravitation by the earth on a certain mass at a special height (on
> Mount Everest, things weigh less...) so kilo to the third power would
> be this gravitation (on earth on the same mass at the same height) to the
> third power ...
First of all, a "kilo" is short for "kilogram", which is a unit of mass, not
weight. By coincidence, at sea level, at a certain latitude (and for most
intents and purposes almost everywhere on Earth), a kilogram of mass has a
weight of one kilopond (a unit of weight), so in everyday life one usually
does not distinguish between the two: groceries can be measured either using a
balance (measures mass) or scales with a spring mechanism (measures weight).
However, if you ever go to Mars, I'd recommend that you insist that the grocer
weighs your groceries with a balance!!!
I think it is time to explain what is "dimension" in units of measurement is,
to which I had referred in previous postings. This is from what little I
remember from my high school physics, so if there are any physicists in the
lists, please don't hit me too hard if there any inaccuracies below.
In physics, it is common practice to measure things in a consistent system.
This has the advantage that whenever you apply a formula to derive a quantity
(e.g., speed) from other quantities (e.g., distance traveled and time
required), the result is guaranteed to be a unit in that system, and not
require a conversion. To do this, a few "fundamental" quantities are
selected, their units are defined, and the units for all other quantities are
derived from the above by applying the various laws of physics. The most
common system currently in use is SI (Systeme Internationale), but since I am
not familiar with it, I'll talk about its predecessor, MKSA (= Meter,
Kilogram, Second, Ampere). In this system, the fundamental quantities are
length, mass, time, and electrical current, and the units are those mentioned
above. All other units are expressed in terms of the above. Now, the
"dimension" of a unit of measurement (or, indeed, the quantity measured) is
the ordered set of exponents to which each of the fundamental units must be
raised to obtain the unit in question.
A few examples:
Quantity Unit Dimension
---------------------------------------------
length m (1, 0, 0, 0)
speed m/s (1, 0, -1, 0)
acceleration m/(s^2) (1, 0, -2, 0)
force kg*m/(s^2) (1, 1, -2, 0) (This is called a "Newton")
electric charge A*s (0, 0, 1, 1) (This is called a "Coulomb")
In this system, there is no place for a "cubic acre", as the unit of
measurement for areas is the square meter. On the other hand, an acre is
equivalent to a square meter times a constant, so a cubic acre is a square
meter cubed (just like a cubic meter is a meter cubed), times another
constant. Thus, the dimension of the quantity a cubic acre measures is
(6, 0, 0, 0). Therefore, in terms of linear dimensions, a cubic acre is a
six-dimensional object!
The fundamental quantities need not be the four mentioned above, nor need they
be four. E.g., I understand that SI has a few more, and another old system,
CGS (Centimeter, gram, second) had only three, with electrical quantities
having bizarre, often fractional, dimensions (if I am not mistaken, electric
charge, e.g., would have a dimension of (3/2, 1/2, -1) in this system!)
As for my cubic kilo, depending on whether I meant cubic kilogram or cubic
kilopond, its dimension would be either (0, 3, 0, 0) or (3, 3, -6, 0) in MKSA;
a nonsense quantity, as I had meant it to be.
VIDAR:
> Funny... I kind of hear my own voice when I Scrooge is speaking
> in the comics. :-)
No, no, he speaks with *MY* voice when I read Scrooge's voice in the comics! ;-)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"I haven't changed the course of history; indeed, I'm expressly forbidden so
to do!"
-----
Harry Fluks
Dutch Cartoon Comics
Message 27 -
1997-09-03 at 22:12:08
OLE wrote to "GLADSTONE":
> In the Dutch weeklies some 18 stories appeared during the mid-80'es.
> These were 4-5 page versions of cartoons like "Moving Day" [..]
> Unfortunately I don't have exact codes for them (even if Harry says
> they code everything) except for something like "TEK 1938".
There are in fact 6 more stories like this, because in 1992, they got
an H-code. The earlier ones have no code, but only the name of the
cartoon and the year. The code "tek 1938" was invented by me.
> (RoC is _not_ an abbreviation of anything, just a sort of nickname.
> It appears on Don's cover of USA #51 as a favor to me. Thanks again,
> Don, though I'm slightly disappointed no-one seemed to notice it...)
Of course I noticed it, because you told us in advance...
You are now one of the immortals, like Donna, Bankard, Gadducci
and Byron. (And, in a way, Fluks, but that's a different story... 8-)
--Harry.
> In the Dutch weeklies some 18 stories appeared during the mid-80'es.
> These were 4-5 page versions of cartoons like "Moving Day" [..]
> Unfortunately I don't have exact codes for them (even if Harry says
> they code everything) except for something like "TEK 1938".
There are in fact 6 more stories like this, because in 1992, they got
an H-code. The earlier ones have no code, but only the name of the
cartoon and the year. The code "tek 1938" was invented by me.
> (RoC is _not_ an abbreviation of anything, just a sort of nickname.
> It appears on Don's cover of USA #51 as a favor to me. Thanks again,
> Don, though I'm slightly disappointed no-one seemed to notice it...)
Of course I noticed it, because you told us in advance...
You are now one of the immortals, like Donna, Bankard, Gadducci
and Byron. (And, in a way, Fluks, but that's a different story... 8-)
--Harry.
Bhc
Disney comics Digest V97 #187
Message 28 -
1997-09-04 at 02:16:59
Ole:
>According to our database the 12 chapters sum up to 212 pages (15+28+15+
>15+15+12+15+24+15+15+24+19) as they were published in Uncle $crooge #285-
>296, not counting the 12 covers.
>The Egmont version is only 209 pages...
The Gladstone version, of course, wound up with the equivalent of three
more pages over the Egmont version courtesy of Don's and our keen interest
in revising the final chapter a bit.
>So what are the 8 extra pages?
Twizzler ads.
Juuuust kidding! (Ha, ha, I'm such a card.) The eight pages you're
wondering about contain the text material that appeared in the album
collections.
Gary
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"It's Bindy Gonzer's birthday!" - Churchy La Femme
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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>According to our database the 12 chapters sum up to 212 pages (15+28+15+
>15+15+12+15+24+15+15+24+19) as they were published in Uncle $crooge #285-
>296, not counting the 12 covers.
>The Egmont version is only 209 pages...
The Gladstone version, of course, wound up with the equivalent of three
more pages over the Egmont version courtesy of Don's and our keen interest
in revising the final chapter a bit.
>So what are the 8 extra pages?
Twizzler ads.
Juuuust kidding! (Ha, ha, I'm such a card.) The eight pages you're
wondering about contain the text material that appeared in the album
collections.
Gary
****************************
"It's Bindy Gonzer's birthday!" - Churchy La Femme
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Gladstone on the Web: http://www.hamlco.com/bhc/
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Donald D. Markstein
Junkville Journal
Message 29 -
1997-09-04 at 02:48:27
HARRY --
I'm glad to hear "Der Fuhrer's Face" still holds up, contrary
to my expectations. Too bad I'll never get to see it on The Disney
Channel...
Surprisingly enough, I'm actually familiar with "'Allo
'Allo". It was one of several "Britcoms" (i.e., British sitcoms, a
sitcom [for those whose native language is not English] being a
member of the dominant class of commercial TV programming, the
situation comedy) broadcast by Public Television in America about
8-10 years ago. I became quite a fan of it. Of course, the humor was
of rather a low sort -- but that's one of the things I liked about
it. There was nothing they wouldn't stoop to for a laugh. (My wife,
however, would roll her eyes and groan a lot while I watched it.)
RICH --
I am Shocked and Appalled that Disney doesn't include THE
BLACK CAULDRON among its animated features. I mean, granted, it's a
prize turkey, but still -- it IS an animated feature, and it WAS
produced by Disney. Are they THAT adamant about disowning it? I
guess that's another I won't be seeing on The Disney Channel...
As for the compilations -- they wouldn't want to exclude
FANTASIA, of course, nor THE RELUCTANT DRAGON; and most components
of those two were later released separately. It seems a very short
step from there to counting compilations of cartoons that had
already been released separately.
Where would one look up a list of what they count? I'm
curious to see if the two DuckTales features are included, or THE
RETURN OF JAFAR...
RAM SUMUDRALA --
"I also found these one-off stories for 69 cents each by Whitman
(?). Anyone know anything about them?"
Would those be the DynaBrite comics, published in the late
1970s or early '80s? Lovely, aren't they? Too bad there were so few.
There were also a couple of STAR TREK in that line, and maybe one
or two non-Disney cartoon characters. Highlights include "The
Golden Fleecing" and "Mickey and the Beanstalk". I don't have a list
handy, but they're in Overstreet.
OTA --
I'm not sure how the situation has changed with the current
U.S. copyright law, but during World War II, the U.S. government
held no copyrights. Everything it produced went immediately into
the public domain. I guess that's why that Donald Duck IRS cartoon
can appear in anthologies -- if it was "owned" by the government,
then anyone can use it now.
Dwight Decker can probably tell you more about collections
of Warner Bros. wartime cartoons, when he comes back from that
seminar, because he keeps track of video better than I do (or
anybody else I know, for that matter). I'm pretty sure there's a
laserdisk containing a dozen or so of them, with commentary by
Leonard Maltin. Naturally, the classics, like "Russian Rhapsody",
are on it, as are some oddball, non-offensive items like "The
Ducktator". "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" and "Tokio Jokio", however,
are not.
Quack, Don=
I'm glad to hear "Der Fuhrer's Face" still holds up, contrary
to my expectations. Too bad I'll never get to see it on The Disney
Channel...
Surprisingly enough, I'm actually familiar with "'Allo
'Allo". It was one of several "Britcoms" (i.e., British sitcoms, a
sitcom [for those whose native language is not English] being a
member of the dominant class of commercial TV programming, the
situation comedy) broadcast by Public Television in America about
8-10 years ago. I became quite a fan of it. Of course, the humor was
of rather a low sort -- but that's one of the things I liked about
it. There was nothing they wouldn't stoop to for a laugh. (My wife,
however, would roll her eyes and groan a lot while I watched it.)
RICH --
I am Shocked and Appalled that Disney doesn't include THE
BLACK CAULDRON among its animated features. I mean, granted, it's a
prize turkey, but still -- it IS an animated feature, and it WAS
produced by Disney. Are they THAT adamant about disowning it? I
guess that's another I won't be seeing on The Disney Channel...
As for the compilations -- they wouldn't want to exclude
FANTASIA, of course, nor THE RELUCTANT DRAGON; and most components
of those two were later released separately. It seems a very short
step from there to counting compilations of cartoons that had
already been released separately.
Where would one look up a list of what they count? I'm
curious to see if the two DuckTales features are included, or THE
RETURN OF JAFAR...
RAM SUMUDRALA --
"I also found these one-off stories for 69 cents each by Whitman
(?). Anyone know anything about them?"
Would those be the DynaBrite comics, published in the late
1970s or early '80s? Lovely, aren't they? Too bad there were so few.
There were also a couple of STAR TREK in that line, and maybe one
or two non-Disney cartoon characters. Highlights include "The
Golden Fleecing" and "Mickey and the Beanstalk". I don't have a list
handy, but they're in Overstreet.
OTA --
I'm not sure how the situation has changed with the current
U.S. copyright law, but during World War II, the U.S. government
held no copyrights. Everything it produced went immediately into
the public domain. I guess that's why that Donald Duck IRS cartoon
can appear in anthologies -- if it was "owned" by the government,
then anyone can use it now.
Dwight Decker can probably tell you more about collections
of Warner Bros. wartime cartoons, when he comes back from that
seminar, because he keeps track of video better than I do (or
anybody else I know, for that matter). I'm pretty sure there's a
laserdisk containing a dozen or so of them, with commentary by
Leonard Maltin. Naturally, the classics, like "Russian Rhapsody",
are on it, as are some oddball, non-offensive items like "The
Ducktator". "Bugs Bunny Nips the Nips" and "Tokio Jokio", however,
are not.
Quack, Don=
Marco Barlotti
Atomino Bip-Bip and WoW
Message 30 -
1997-09-04 at 11:46:17
SOEREN:
>
>>And alcohol seems to be banned in Disney comics...
>
>I remember the MM story, where a scientists magnifies two atoms to
>human size, and they turn out to be living beings... one nice, the
>other one evil... together with Pete it blackmails the town with its
>supernatural abilitues... hunting them, the police catches some
>persons destilling alcohol illegally...
I just want to point out that you're referring to Scarpa's <Delta dimension>
sequel to Gottfredon's Dr. Einmug, I TL 206-A. The "nice" atom is in fact
Atomino Bip-Bip, which I mentione a few digests ago...
MICHAEL:
>
>I have been to :
> http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/comics/Censorship.html
>where I have found an english translation of War of the Wendigo. Now, of
>course, I am searching for a copy of the art that goes with it. Would it
>be too much to ask if there is a website where the story has been scanned
>in? (even in a foreign language).
Just two remarks on this. What you found on my WWW pages is not a
<translation> but rather the **original text** of WoW. I put it there
because it was never actually published, so I can hope (or at least pretend
to hope) that I'm breaking no copyright.
While scanning the **entire story** (in any language) would certainly bring
duck-dressed G-men from Disney at my home asking me to stop immediately
doing that! ;-)
So there **might** be somewhere in the Web a copy of the art, but I wouldn't
count on that.
The idea behind my webpages WoW.html is that you can buy **any** printed
version of the art in **any** language and be able to understand what's
going on!!! Now, since this should <improve> rather than <damage> sales, I
even more hope that Walt Disney Company will not be too hard on me ;-)
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
>
>>And alcohol seems to be banned in Disney comics...
>
>I remember the MM story, where a scientists magnifies two atoms to
>human size, and they turn out to be living beings... one nice, the
>other one evil... together with Pete it blackmails the town with its
>supernatural abilitues... hunting them, the police catches some
>persons destilling alcohol illegally...
I just want to point out that you're referring to Scarpa's <Delta dimension>
sequel to Gottfredon's Dr. Einmug, I TL 206-A. The "nice" atom is in fact
Atomino Bip-Bip, which I mentione a few digests ago...
MICHAEL:
>
>I have been to :
> http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/comics/Censorship.html
>where I have found an english translation of War of the Wendigo. Now, of
>course, I am searching for a copy of the art that goes with it. Would it
>be too much to ask if there is a website where the story has been scanned
>in? (even in a foreign language).
Just two remarks on this. What you found on my WWW pages is not a
<translation> but rather the **original text** of WoW. I put it there
because it was never actually published, so I can hope (or at least pretend
to hope) that I'm breaking no copyright.
While scanning the **entire story** (in any language) would certainly bring
duck-dressed G-men from Disney at my home asking me to stop immediately
doing that! ;-)
So there **might** be somewhere in the Web a copy of the art, but I wouldn't
count on that.
The idea behind my webpages WoW.html is that you can buy **any** printed
version of the art in **any** language and be able to understand what's
going on!!! Now, since this should <improve> rather than <damage> sales, I
even more hope that Walt Disney Company will not be too hard on me ;-)
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it