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Kriton Kyrimis
DON:

> My World Almanac isn't in reach. Was there an Olympics in Greece in the
> 50s? (I think not.)

No, but the first Olympics, in 1896, were, and Scrooge would have been
at just about the right age to participate. I wonder where he was between
March 25 and April 15 of that year...
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Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
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"I think I'll take this opportunity to remove my ears."
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Byron Erickson
DON ROSA WROTE IN DIGEST #192:

> I spoke to Byron a few minutes ago and he was telling me a bit about the
> Egmont artist-writer conference that they had last week. And he told me
> about an announcement of an interesting (!) policy change that Egmont will
> soon begin (and being Egmont, which will effect MOST of the Disney comics
> on the planet).

The announcement is quite simply that Egmont Disney comics in the
Scandinavian countries and Germany will now carry writer/artist credits.
For every story. At the bottom of the first page of each story.

It's possible that other Egmont countries (in Eastern Europe and Asia)
will also follow suit and print credits, but we haven't talked to those
local publishers about credits as yet.

The credits are scheduled to begin with the 1998 issues, but don't be
surprised if they come a little sooner or a little later, in some
countries (we work way, way, way in advance).

We have not printed creator credits in the past due to complicated legal
reasons (don't ask -- I won't answer). I personally am glad that we can
now start giving credit where it's due, and I know that our creators are
very happy to at long last get the chance to step out of the shadows and
into the spotlight. They deserve the recognition.

-- Byron Erickson

"Hey, do your *really* want this crap to see print with *your* name
attached?" (What I'm glad I can now say to anyone who sends in a story
I'm not 100% satisfied with.)
JALustig
STEVE ROWE:

<<Just got a complaint about my listing the contents of the Acclaim and
Disney
Adventures comics...If nobody's
interested; I'll drop it... >>

Personally, I think it's of interest. So my vote is to continue it--as long
as you enjoy doing it.

On another matter--admittedly way off-topic--I just wanted to publicly thank
Steve for helping me identify some artwork several months ago for my "LAST
KISS" series. When I wrote into Comics Buyer's Guide I mentioned Dick
Giordano as one of the people who'd helped me, but forgot to mention Steve's
name as the other. I know you probably don't care, Steve, but I thought I
ought to set the record straight.

--John Lustig
JALustig
ALL:

I have to agree strongly with others on this list that the posting of rumors
about people is a real mistake. I don't think the person who posted the Rosa
Lamp rumor on this list had any malicious intentions. But it would have been
better to just send the info to Don himself. Posting the information to the
Mailing List really accomplished nothing--except to upset people--and could
have been hurt Don's reputation.
--John Lustig
JALustig
ALL:
As long as we're dealing with rumors, I guess maybe I should deal with some
other matters...
It's been reported (and this part is true) that I worked on a story with the
Carl Barks Studio--developing an idea of Carl's into a script. Unfortunately,
various information has also gotten out about when this story should have
appeared. Per Starback asked me for some information about this months ago,
but at the time I couldn't really comment. I've been asked privately by a
number of other people since then.
All I can really say is that the story went through a very convoluted
process--both on a creative and business level--that I've never run into or
even heard of before. As a result a number of problems came up and because of
those problems the story has not been purchased and has certainly not been
scheduled for publication. I don't think that's very likely to change in the
next few months. Whether the story will ever appear and if it does what form
the story will take--well, I really don't know.
If anything changes and the story is purchased and scheduled then I will be
happy to let everyone know. In the meantime, this remains a rather touchy
subject for me--and for other people involved with the story--and I really
don't think it's wise for me to answer further questions about the project.
I guess that's about it.

--John Lustig
Vidar Svendsen
At 17:22 23.09.97 +0100, Byron wrote:
>The announcement is quite simply that Egmont Disney comics in the
>Scandinavian countries and Germany will now carry writer/artist credits.
>For every story. At the bottom of the first page of each story.

That is real good news. And it means I'll probably bye more Donald Ducks
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends

One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
"I don't remember"
Cebarat
RICH BELLACERA replied to STEVEN ROWE:

<<If it wasn't for you (and David Gerstein)
mentioning that "Quack Pack" was being featured in "Disney
Adventures Magazine" this month I probably would have snubbed it
since I had concluded that magazine was no longer printing Disney
tales based on the animated series from The Disney Afternoon.>>

I appreciate Steven's gesture too, BTW. Since DISNEY ADVENTURES essentially
abandoned new stories based on the Disney TV series, I have been paying only
cursory attention to the magazine.

RICH also stated:
<<I'm not particularly interested in seeing comics based on DOUG,
PEPPER ANN, NIGHTMARE NED or RECESS...>>

From what I've seen of PEPPER ANN and RECESS, I would like to see at least a
stab taken at comics adaptations of these series, in particular the former.
If nothing else, DISNEY ADVENTURES would be strongly motivated to print
these stories, since they feature characters with whom the "child and early
teen audience" at which DADVS is targeted can (supposedly) identify.

-- Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"WHEN IT COMES TO SHOOTING MARBLES, I'M ALL THUMBS!" -- Huey, "DuckTales"
episode "Pearl of Wisdom"
Kfitz
Rob,

A belated re: > I suppose I'm trying to say that historical and scientific
consistency
> are nice and desirable story traits, but to me they are less important
> than the quality of the yarn and the message of the tale. Also I like a
> story that INFORMS me and stimulates my curiosity about a subject, as
> "Ancient Persia " stimulated my interest in History and Archeology.
> Robsr Gibson
>
A recent example of the value of this is that IMHO, sometimes
sciene/scientists become arrogant in believing that all of the correct
answers have been discovered in any one science. Scientific theory is
after all theory, who is to say when all has been learned and I hope I am
not around if it ever is.

With a well developed imagination scientists can only improve in their
search for answers. A while back an astrologist, an engineer, and a
mathematician took a serious look at Egyptology, the Sphinx, the Pyramids,
and so forth. What they came up with was truly astounding and far more
logical than a lot of "science" I have thus far studied. Their chronicals
have been recorded and are presented on various learning channels and
public television from time to time, I can not remember what it was called.
I will bet all three individuals were weaned on early Mickey and Duck
stories by Barks and Gottfredson and others, I regret I can not remember
their names. Their findings were of course denounced with vehemance and
arrogance by most Egyptologists who can not see beyond a manual.

Sorry, off topic, but when some of Carl Bark's early stories were written
such as the one where a ship is salvaged with ping pong balls and saving an
Egyptian statue by cutting and labeling the pieces to move and restore and
other things that came to pass, I am sure many people did not find them
logical at the time. Even when the "logic" of a well written comic or
other story appears impossible, it just may turn out to be some day. And
if not, perhaps such an illogical idea will inspire another logical
solution.

I believe no matter how seriously we take the details of a story we must
never forget to have fun reading the stories. Otherwise, I fear we have
grown up, and I simply refuse to even at 48!

Kathy
Kfitz
Wilmer,

Excellent! Besides everything you said so well, I had to assume that the
atmosphere was indeed there or they simply wouldn't have made it. Is that
too simple?

Kathy
Kfitz
Ota,

I extremely dislike "political correctness" trend. In the first place it
always ends up being a double standard and hypocritcal. In the second
place it always calls attention very much to whatever it is the politically
correct "police" think should be removed because "it calls attention to
something". For some time now there are those who would rid of us historic
literature (in which I include most of Bark's works) because they think
something was misrepresented though of course they did not live there.

Almost never is it a person that might have something in common with what
reference they want removed (a blind person, a Native American, or whatever
is being referred to) rather it will be a group of so called "advocates"
for whatever group they deem are being picked on. I hope and pray there
are not people out there in the great universe trying to protect me as I
have always tried to be responsible for myself and think for myself as much
as possible and can avoid what does not interest me. I just do not expect
everyone to agree with me, perceive me as I perceive myself, or even like
me.

When I grew up, political correctness was called self righteousness. A
close look at it and you will see what I mean. The people practicing it
are trying to impress everyone with how much better they are as individuals
because they are "correct". I believe it is the intent of something said
or written that tells the tale. Was the intent to single out and/or
ridicule a group or a person or is the humor something else a little deeper
than most people can think.

For example I have had people apologize to me for something they said but
thought I might take wrong. Yet, it was from their heart and I got nothing
out of it that should offend me. What a way to live.

A little sensitivity and consideration goes a long way in this world, but
political correctness is going nowhere and impressing no one except those
already impressed with themselves because they are doing it.

Historical correctness is a wonderful thing. These people that are
preaching their political correctness are usually historically illiterate
and ignorant. They are in denial about somethings that are historically
known and recorded and are in the process of trying to rewrite history to
reflect their ignorance. Sigh, it is real sore spot with me and makes me
glad I work fixing computers and installing network equipment for the
school district I work rather than teaching for since politcal correctness
and historical incorrectness is infesting our schools!

I promise to stay on topic now for the rest of the year, thanks for
listening,

Kathy
Kfitz
Rich,

> And speaking of intersection of fandoms...another of my interests
> (again, overlapping with Asimov) is P.G. Wodehouse>

I love P. G. Wodehouse also. Fans of Wodehouse might also enjoy the books
of Thorne Smith on which the Topper movie starring Cary Grant was based as
well as the later TV series "Topper". He actually wrote more mind boggling
and irreverent stories such as "Turnabout" (a movie was made of this, but I
haven't seen it, a TV series was attempted but they cast it all wrong - it
is very dry humor) and "Rain in the Doorway".

While off topic, I also am a fan of early Robert Heinlein novels such as
"Time For The Stars" "Space Cadet" and "Between Planets". Could he have
been a Duck fan, anyone know?

Kathy
Kfitz
Just in case you didn't notice it is Vidar Svendsen who has the saying,

>
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> Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
>
> One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
> "I don't remember"

as his email signature.

Of course it may not be Vidar who made that comment in Dr. Archontis
Pantsios's wonderful Don Rosa survey.

-Kathy
Tarjei Kidd Olsen
Howdy,

DON R.:

>doing a story set in the *1952* Norwegian
>Olympics! And that's what I did! Ha! But LATER the editor decided he wanted
>me to show the Lillehammer ski jump. Ouch. I was stuck. My script dealt
>with the 1952 Olympics, but the view of the ski-jump was 1994
>Lillehammer... and the title changed to reflect that.

So does that mean that I can add the Norway trip to my 1952-slot in the
timeline? (perhaps the modern ski jump came to be there thank's to a mere
space-vortex anomaly(please, I don't want any corrections to my last
statement from one of you mathematicians or whatever:-)? ;)

|| <<<<Tarjei Kidd Olsen>>>> ||
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|| http://home.sol.no/~kidd/ ||
|| (Email removed) ||

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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #206
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Bhc
Eirik:

Any color notes Barks put on his scripts are not available to us, as we
don't have his scripts. What we do have are photostats of the final art
pages, shot by Western decades ago; some color notes do appear on these,
though some are barely legible, and it's a tossup as to whether they are
actually Barks' notes or just notations by a Western production person.

Gary

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Don Rosa
> I have to agree strongly with others on this list that the posting of
rumors
> about people is a real mistake. I don't think the person who posted the
Rosa
> Lamp rumor on this list had any malicious intentions. But it would have
been
> better to just send the info to Don himself. Posting the information to
the
> Mailing List really accomplished nothing--except to upset people--and
could
> have been hurt Don's reputation.

As I go out the door on my way to Portugal, I must pause to say that the
above was purt'near the most incredible paragraph I've ever seen on this
Mailing List, considering who it came from. If I've learned anything from
Dwight Decker's recent teachings in Internet abbreviations... ROFL.
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