DON ROSA:
> How could that have been Mickey Mouse who got eaten by starving
> prospectors in my "Hearts of the Yukon"? Or even squished by an elephant
> in my "Terror of the Transvaal"? Those stories took place in 1898 and
> 1895. And in both cases that was a teeny, tiny rodent, not a man-size
> mouse-creature. Don't be silly. That's my job.
Er... I feel like I'm being *brainwashed*.
> [Beagle Boys liking prunes] I always found that idea intriguing simply
> because it was one of the very VERY few factoids in his own stories that
> Barks ever referred to in a later story.
One story can even be seen as a sequel. The reward of the nephews in the
detective-story of WDC 61 returns in the waterski-story of WDC 62.
That is... if it was money at all. And... were those ducklings really the
nephews?
Am I really me?
Greetings,
--- er...
Author
Topic: 199710
(359 messages)
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Do I see what I see?
Message 136 -
1997-10-13 at 16:19:21
Fluks, H.W.
Cavazzano again...
Message 137 -
1997-10-13 at 19:19:41
Francois and Marco discussed:
>Marco> on "The secret of Incas" I scooped you!
>Francois> Where was that story published? I didn't find it in the database.
>Marco> This piece of information has not yet been <officially> released on
>the Web.
>Marco> The story was published on "Topolino" #2169 of June 24th 1997.
But this story is *not* an Italian story. We're talking about the
"Bandanga" story
here, which was written by Erickson, for Egmont.
Since the story is quite new, it's not in the current Database version.
--Harry.
>
>Marco> on "The secret of Incas" I scooped you!
>Francois> Where was that story published? I didn't find it in the database.
>Marco> This piece of information has not yet been <officially> released on
>the Web.
>Marco> The story was published on "Topolino" #2169 of June 24th 1997.
But this story is *not* an Italian story. We're talking about the
"Bandanga" story
here, which was written by Erickson, for Egmont.
Since the story is quite new, it's not in the current Database version.
--Harry.
>
Nils Lid Hjort
Fantasia ... 2000
Message 138 -
1997-10-13 at 19:39:50
Thanks to David Feske, Dwight Decker, Rik Pierce, Brix Lichtenberg, Harry Flux
and Helge Bjoernhaug for comments and information spurred by my remarks about
the "Sorcerer's Apprentice". In particular I valued the Goethe poem which
Helge B with such ease whipped up for us via an Internet site.
Re "Fantasia" and the short discussion here that touched it: The Disney
corporation is planning a spiced up version of Fantasia for the new millenium,
appopriately called "Fantasia 2000". It could become, with recent high-tech
3-D computer animation and so on, the most expensive film in cinema history;
see http://headlines.yahoo.com/eonline/index.html ! Making a Big Bold Artistic
Expensive Plan like this would also be quite appropriate and in tune with the
historic 1940 namesake.
The little quote I gave from educator Martha W.D. Adams also provoked some
comments here. Yes, it was a contemporary comment, among many other similar
ones [try this one: "one of the strange and beautiful things that have happened
in the world" (Otis Ferguson)]. Even though Fantasia may appear dull to our
children (or to some of them!) I don't have any difficulties with recognising
it as the many-faceted breakthrough it was in 1940.
Nils Lid Hjort
and Helge Bjoernhaug for comments and information spurred by my remarks about
the "Sorcerer's Apprentice". In particular I valued the Goethe poem which
Helge B with such ease whipped up for us via an Internet site.
Re "Fantasia" and the short discussion here that touched it: The Disney
corporation is planning a spiced up version of Fantasia for the new millenium,
appopriately called "Fantasia 2000". It could become, with recent high-tech
3-D computer animation and so on, the most expensive film in cinema history;
see http://headlines.yahoo.com/eonline/index.html ! Making a Big Bold Artistic
Expensive Plan like this would also be quite appropriate and in tune with the
historic 1940 namesake.
The little quote I gave from educator Martha W.D. Adams also provoked some
comments here. Yes, it was a contemporary comment, among many other similar
ones [try this one: "one of the strange and beautiful things that have happened
in the world" (Otis Ferguson)]. Even though Fantasia may appear dull to our
children (or to some of them!) I don't have any difficulties with recognising
it as the many-faceted breakthrough it was in 1940.
Nils Lid Hjort
Nils Lid Hjort
Pertwillaby Papers
Message 139 -
1997-10-13 at 19:59:11
I am currently reading through some of Don Rosa's "Pertwillaby Papers", and
enjoy them. A couple of questions (which could be directed to Don, but which
would interest most maillist readers):
* Does the original artwork still exist?
* Has any of the PP stories been published outside USA?
* Who `owns' the art? Are there copyright restrictions? If a Scandinavian
newspaper, for example, or student type magazine, wanted to publish some
of the stories, would it (a) be possible and (b) be costly?
* Are answers to (a) and (b) different in the case of a publishing company
wishing to publish separate albums, with full stories in one publication
rather than on a one-strip-at-a-time basis?
Nils Lid Hjort
enjoy them. A couple of questions (which could be directed to Don, but which
would interest most maillist readers):
* Does the original artwork still exist?
* Has any of the PP stories been published outside USA?
* Who `owns' the art? Are there copyright restrictions? If a Scandinavian
newspaper, for example, or student type magazine, wanted to publish some
of the stories, would it (a) be possible and (b) be costly?
* Are answers to (a) and (b) different in the case of a publishing company
wishing to publish separate albums, with full stories in one publication
rather than on a one-strip-at-a-time basis?
Nils Lid Hjort
Geir J. Netland
New HD&L story
Message 140 -
1997-10-13 at 20:02:03
Don R:
Great story! I must agree in that this is one of the top 10-15!
I especially liked the gag with the Big Bat. And the appearance of
Osborne and Taliaferro was Great! (Barks missing)
BTW: The character in Scrooge's factory, is he the brother of
Frankenstein???
Geir J. Netland
Great story! I must agree in that this is one of the top 10-15!
I especially liked the gag with the Big Bat. And the appearance of
Osborne and Taliaferro was Great! (Barks missing)
BTW: The character in Scrooge's factory, is he the brother of
Frankenstein???
Geir J. Netland
Rob Gibson
Various
Message 141 -
1997-10-13 at 20:02:32
Having just caught up on the last two weeks of the list, I'd like to
reply to several postings:
Wrt Fundamentalists/Political Correctness, I like Patrick Henry's line
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your
right to say it!"
Censorship implies individuals are not capable of making decisions
affecting their own lives. When a group tries to limit what a school can
teach its children, when the government harrasses a physician into
underprescribing pain medication for a dying patient, when Disney bans
the reprinting of politically incorrect stories, they are taking away
our right to make decisions regarding issues affecting our own lives.
Perhaps this is the price we pay for having a society run by and for
lawyers. One of the consistent trends I've noticed over the last ten
years is that the percentage of the US GNP that goes to the legal
profession is expanding, even as the GNP expands.
WRT Fantasia: I loved it as a kid, and I love it now. My favorite parts
are Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony and, of course, "Night on Bald
Mountain." The evolution/dinosaur segment is also one of my favorites.
If one likes great classical music and great animation, how can one NOT
like it?
Rob("stir the pot") Gibson
reply to several postings:
Wrt Fundamentalists/Political Correctness, I like Patrick Henry's line
"I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your
right to say it!"
Censorship implies individuals are not capable of making decisions
affecting their own lives. When a group tries to limit what a school can
teach its children, when the government harrasses a physician into
underprescribing pain medication for a dying patient, when Disney bans
the reprinting of politically incorrect stories, they are taking away
our right to make decisions regarding issues affecting our own lives.
Perhaps this is the price we pay for having a society run by and for
lawyers. One of the consistent trends I've noticed over the last ten
years is that the percentage of the US GNP that goes to the legal
profession is expanding, even as the GNP expands.
WRT Fantasia: I loved it as a kid, and I love it now. My favorite parts
are Beethoven's Pastoral Symphony and, of course, "Night on Bald
Mountain." The evolution/dinosaur segment is also one of my favorites.
If one likes great classical music and great animation, how can one NOT
like it?
Rob("stir the pot") Gibson
Deckerd
various
Message 142 -
1997-10-13 at 20:12:49
On Oct 13, 10:02am, rob gibson wrote:
> Wrt Fundamentalists/Political Correctness, I like Patrick Henry's line
> "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your
> right to say it!"
Err...I believe that line is usually ascribed to Voltaire (and he
didn't say it either). I have a book of Bogus Quotations -- that is,
Famous Sayings by Famous People Who Really Didn't Say Them, and that
line is included. It was apparently made up by someone you never heard
of, who claimed Voltaire said it "because it sounded like something
he'd say." Patrick Henry's (genuine) line was, "Give me liberty or
give me death!"
--Dwight Decker
> Wrt Fundamentalists/Political Correctness, I like Patrick Henry's line
> "I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death for your
> right to say it!"
Err...I believe that line is usually ascribed to Voltaire (and he
didn't say it either). I have a book of Bogus Quotations -- that is,
Famous Sayings by Famous People Who Really Didn't Say Them, and that
line is included. It was apparently made up by someone you never heard
of, who claimed Voltaire said it "because it sounded like something
he'd say." Patrick Henry's (genuine) line was, "Give me liberty or
give me death!"
--Dwight Decker
Per-Erik Malmström
Disney comics Digest V97 #222
Message 143 -
1997-10-13 at 20:16:15
Hi!!
There are a lot of different story codes and I just came across one that
started with an F, does anyone know what the F stands for?
There have been a discussion about Barks rip-offs so I think that DUCKTALES
has to be mentioned. Personaly I think it's the worst Barks rip-off ever
done, and it would be very interesting to hear what everyone else
thinks....
TARJEI KIDD OLSEN:
> How do I
> order the new hardback Don Rosa book? Is there a catalogue on the way (I
> subscribe)?
Yes, there is a catalog on the way you subscribe. To recieve it: send a
mail to Susan Morse (at: (Email removed)) and provide her with your
snailmail address.
> Surely if there is only a thousand signed copies....
There isn't! 100 copies went to the people who worked with the book so
there's only 900 copies for sale.8-)
Best,
Per-Erik
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There are a lot of different story codes and I just came across one that
started with an F, does anyone know what the F stands for?
There have been a discussion about Barks rip-offs so I think that DUCKTALES
has to be mentioned. Personaly I think it's the worst Barks rip-off ever
done, and it would be very interesting to hear what everyone else
thinks....
TARJEI KIDD OLSEN:
> How do I
> order the new hardback Don Rosa book? Is there a catalogue on the way (I
> subscribe)?
Yes, there is a catalog on the way you subscribe. To recieve it: send a
mail to Susan Morse (at: (Email removed)) and provide her with your
snailmail address.
> Surely if there is only a thousand signed copies....
There isn't! 100 copies went to the people who worked with the book so
there's only 900 copies for sale.8-)
Best,
Per-Erik
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Vidar Svendsen
Comics shops
Message 144 -
1997-10-13 at 21:49:47
I'm going to York (GB) on Sunday. Are there any comics-
shops in the area?
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
"I don't remember"
shops in the area?
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
"I don't remember"
Eirik Krogh Visted
Barks covers
Message 145 -
1997-10-13 at 23:33:12
Will the currently running CBLiC Scrooge Adventures series have a cover
gallery like the WDC&S series did ? And other thing: why did the WDC&S
cover gallery just print "a large percentage" of Barks covers, why not
print all of them while you're at it ?
Eirik Krogh Visted
"What's the point of going out? We're just going to wind up back here
anyway."
- Homer J. Simpson
gallery like the WDC&S series did ? And other thing: why did the WDC&S
cover gallery just print "a large percentage" of Barks covers, why not
print all of them while you're at it ?
Eirik Krogh Visted
"What's the point of going out? We're just going to wind up back here
anyway."
- Homer J. Simpson
Francois Willot
F
Message 146 -
1997-10-13 at 23:49:14
> There are a lot of different story codes and I just came across one
> that started with an F, does anyone know what the F stands for?
F = France
France-ois
> that started with an F, does anyone know what the F stands for?
F = France
France-ois
Ryan Noppen
Politically incorrect Barks
Message 147 -
1997-10-14 at 00:05:48
Hello,
I've been reading this list for the past few weeks and I have
enjoyed reading the conversations on it.
Only recently I have learned about the censoring of certain
stories due to their "politically incorrect" content. I have also heard
that several of Barks' stories have been banned (Voodoo Hoodoo in
particular). I've heard rumors of several others being banned but the
information about why they are is rather vague. Does anyone know which
Barks stories have been banned and possibly the reasons why?
Thanks
Ryan
I've been reading this list for the past few weeks and I have
enjoyed reading the conversations on it.
Only recently I have learned about the censoring of certain
stories due to their "politically incorrect" content. I have also heard
that several of Barks' stories have been banned (Voodoo Hoodoo in
particular). I've heard rumors of several others being banned but the
information about why they are is rather vague. Does anyone know which
Barks stories have been banned and possibly the reasons why?
Thanks
Ryan
Stefan Diös
Looking for Daan
Message 148 -
1997-10-14 at 00:06:10
Thanks, everyone who tried to help me out with Ferdinand recently. I realize
that my request was somewhat off topic, so, if you pardon me, henceforth
I'll agree to drop the bull.
I hope that my next inquiry will inch just a wee bit closer to our main
subject, even though its philosophical value may be limited. A friend of
mine is writing an article on Daan Jippes and his Disney comics, and thus
needs to get in touch with Daan to clarify a few points.
Does anyone know how to reach Daan Jippes at this time, or what he's
currently doing? (You're not on the list yourself... are you, Daan?) The
writer, Joakim Gunnarsson, already had some correspondence with Daan a few
years ago, so I shouldn't think it would be much of an intrusion.
Again, if anyone has an answer not fit for the public eye, please send it to
my private email, and I'll forward it to Joakim.
Thanks again!
Gee, I don't ever seem to have anything to say for myself, do I?
Stefan Dios (Sweden)
(Email removed)
that my request was somewhat off topic, so, if you pardon me, henceforth
I'll agree to drop the bull.
I hope that my next inquiry will inch just a wee bit closer to our main
subject, even though its philosophical value may be limited. A friend of
mine is writing an article on Daan Jippes and his Disney comics, and thus
needs to get in touch with Daan to clarify a few points.
Does anyone know how to reach Daan Jippes at this time, or what he's
currently doing? (You're not on the list yourself... are you, Daan?) The
writer, Joakim Gunnarsson, already had some correspondence with Daan a few
years ago, so I shouldn't think it would be much of an intrusion.
Again, if anyone has an answer not fit for the public eye, please send it to
my private email, and I'll forward it to Joakim.
Thanks again!
Gee, I don't ever seem to have anything to say for myself, do I?
Stefan Dios (Sweden)
(Email removed)
Deckerd
Jacovitti and Don Rosa
Message 149 -
1997-10-14 at 00:28:54
On Oct 13, 11:09pm, Marco Barlotti wrote:
> Now, of course, I didn't understand a damn word of this. But Dwight Decker
> makes me suspect that Anders somehow compares Jacovitti to Don Rosa.
> Well, IMHO it's not so wrong after all. I like Jacovitti a lot (well, the
> <second> Jacovitti in fact, from mid 50's to mid 70's) and I always
> appreciated the "needless and irritating details" with which Jacovitti fills
> his panels. In this they are he and Don Rosa are **very** similar.
>
Well, no, Anders had come across a page in a Swedish reprint of
Italian-produced Disney comics that he thought might have been
inked by Jaccovitti, but didn't know if Jaccovitti had ever
ever worked on Disney comics. I didn't know how recent the
material was, but I had the sudden thought that a European
coming on Don Rosa for the first time (without knowing who
the artist was) might wonder if Jaccovitti had a hand in it.
Anders wasn't thinking of Don Rosa at all -- I made that
connection from out of nowhere, just thinking of the styles.
>
> >But, if you're talking about something
> >that came out in, oh, say, 1953, none of this applies
>
Anders told me he thought the Swedish book reprinted Italian
stories from the '60s, at least. So it wasn't Rosa, and if it
wasn't Jaccovitti, then it was somebody inking a Disney strip
in a very unusual style!
--Dwight
> Now, of course, I didn't understand a damn word of this. But Dwight Decker
> makes me suspect that Anders somehow compares Jacovitti to Don Rosa.
> Well, IMHO it's not so wrong after all. I like Jacovitti a lot (well, the
> <second> Jacovitti in fact, from mid 50's to mid 70's) and I always
> appreciated the "needless and irritating details" with which Jacovitti fills
> his panels. In this they are he and Don Rosa are **very** similar.
>
Well, no, Anders had come across a page in a Swedish reprint of
Italian-produced Disney comics that he thought might have been
inked by Jaccovitti, but didn't know if Jaccovitti had ever
ever worked on Disney comics. I didn't know how recent the
material was, but I had the sudden thought that a European
coming on Don Rosa for the first time (without knowing who
the artist was) might wonder if Jaccovitti had a hand in it.
Anders wasn't thinking of Don Rosa at all -- I made that
connection from out of nowhere, just thinking of the styles.
>
> >But, if you're talking about something
> >that came out in, oh, say, 1953, none of this applies
>
Anders told me he thought the Swedish book reprinted Italian
stories from the '60s, at least. So it wasn't Rosa, and if it
wasn't Jaccovitti, then it was somebody inking a Disney strip
in a very unusual style!
--Dwight
Marco Barlotti
Jacovitti and Don Rosa
Message 150 -
1997-10-14 at 01:09:25
On Oct 11, 11:29am, Anders Grönlund wrote:
>
> förut. Om du tar fram ditt exemplar av nr 3 och slår upp sidan 253 så
> ser du att den här sidan inte har samma tecknarstil som övriga sidor i
> just den serien. Jag anser att den här sidan måste vara tuschad av
> Jaccovitti (välkänd serieskapare som har gjort Cocco Bill bl.a.) Håller
> ni andra med, eller inte?
>
Now, of course, I didn't understand a damn word of this. But Dwight Decker
makes me suspect that Anders somehow compares Jacovitti to Don Rosa.
Well, IMHO it's not so wrong after all. I like Jacovitti a lot (well, the
<second> Jacovitti in fact, from mid 50's to mid 70's) and I always
appreciated the "needless and irritating details" with which Jacovitti fills
his panels. In this they are he and Don Rosa are **very** similar.
DWIGHT:
>But, if you're talking about something
>that came out in, oh, say, 1953, none of this applies
Well, the first "Cocco Bill" story dates from 1957, and in 1957 everything
**does** apply.
BTW, for an index of the "Cocco Bill" stories (and a nice scanning from the
<first> Cocco Bill story) you can check at
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/IacIndex.html
Marco
Post Scriptum. LUNA STORTA asks:
> the 2nd of November will be my first time in Lucca, so I have to
>ask to the ones who have already been in Lucca during previous editions:
>it is just a fair or there will be the possibility to buy some old
>comics?
As far as I can judge from only one experience, you can buy old comics but
you need a lot of money. It' a fair, but prices are not fair (oh, shame on
me for trying to do word jokes!!!).
>
> förut. Om du tar fram ditt exemplar av nr 3 och slår upp sidan 253 så
> ser du att den här sidan inte har samma tecknarstil som övriga sidor i
> just den serien. Jag anser att den här sidan måste vara tuschad av
> Jaccovitti (välkänd serieskapare som har gjort Cocco Bill bl.a.) Håller
> ni andra med, eller inte?
>
Now, of course, I didn't understand a damn word of this. But Dwight Decker
makes me suspect that Anders somehow compares Jacovitti to Don Rosa.
Well, IMHO it's not so wrong after all. I like Jacovitti a lot (well, the
<second> Jacovitti in fact, from mid 50's to mid 70's) and I always
appreciated the "needless and irritating details" with which Jacovitti fills
his panels. In this they are he and Don Rosa are **very** similar.
DWIGHT:
>But, if you're talking about something
>that came out in, oh, say, 1953, none of this applies
Well, the first "Cocco Bill" story dates from 1957, and in 1957 everything
**does** apply.
BTW, for an index of the "Cocco Bill" stories (and a nice scanning from the
<first> Cocco Bill story) you can check at
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/Comics/IacIndex.html
Marco
Post Scriptum. LUNA STORTA asks:
> the 2nd of November will be my first time in Lucca, so I have to
>ask to the ones who have already been in Lucca during previous editions:
>it is just a fair or there will be the possibility to buy some old
>comics?
As far as I can judge from only one experience, you can buy old comics but
you need a lot of money. It' a fair, but prices are not fair (oh, shame on
me for trying to do word jokes!!!).