EVERYONE:
I will again disappear very soon. I leave for my European tour on Saturday
morning, so this might be my last message.
But I wanted to say something about the "developing situation" concerning
Gladstone comic sales at comic shops in Europe. From what I hear, this is
not a settled matter, but the situation results in the stoppage of the
sales of any Gladstone Disney publications anywhere in Europe for the
foreseeable future. If anyone in Europe wishes to continue to have their
Gladstones, they need to IMMEDIATELY subscribe by mail. No licensing
agreements effect mail subscriptions. And subscriptions help our Gladstone
friends much more than shop sales anyway, so you should take this advice
right away. Perhaps I'll find out some details on the mess during my
voyages in the next 2 1/2 weeks...
MIKE S. (said):
> The german version of Don=B4s W.H.A.T.A.L.O.T.T.A.J.A.R.G.O.N. story is
just
> beiing released in Germany. What I have noticed so far is that this is
> actually the first translation that features not an abbreviated title.
Aha. A translator wimped out!
> I found it quite unusual that they didn=B4t changed the titles of the
comics
> in that panel. But it=B4s not that I would complain about it!
I have learned , slowly and painfully, that if I specifically ask Byron to
tell the art director NOT to delete certain background lettering for a
special reason, it will usually not be deleted. But the standing order to
the functionary with the white-out bottle is to delete ALL lettering and
punctuation.
By the way, I figured he'd admit to it... but the guy walking out of that
comic publisher's office carrying the copy of CHERRY POPTART... that's
Byron. Heh. Heheh.
> Taliafero and Karp (page 5 - panel 2 if my guess its right) are just
> carrying "funny" names : Willibald and Waldemar.
Thanks for telling me. I'll find out the reason for this next week when I'm
in Germany and tell them what I think of that bit of pointless sabotage to
my tribute. It makes no sense! But Germany is the one country that still
sabotages all my historical references by changing them to goofy names.
Such low regard for their readers! Tsk.
TARJEI (asks):
> Are you going on TWO european tours?? Or whatever happened to Norway?
It broke off of Sweden and sank. I suspect hanky-panky. No, I am indeed
making two Euro tours, the second one a mere week after the first one is
done. Then I'll be returning to tour Denmark, Norway and Sweden. I'll post
more info on that trip in about 3 weeks.
MATTHEW (asks):
> If "Rosa" is your name, and "Don" your firstname, so what about "Keno" ??
My full name is Keno Don Hugo Rosa, and Americanization of Giachino Dante
Ugo Rosa.
> What would you think of a "Duckburg based" Role Playing Game ??
More to the point, what would DISNEY think of a Duckburg based role playing
game? I think they'd like the idea a lot, provided you paid them an advance
royalty of 50 grand and gave them complete control of design and creation,
with you absorbing all production costs, and paying them a fat ryalty off
the top of all sales. So, what would YOU think of THAT? (In other words,
"kids, don't try this at home!")
ARTHUR (asks):
> It's been a long time since anyone asked you
> what you were working on, right? So, what have you been working=
> on recently? Is that story with ze French master-thief finished yet?
I finish it this very night! I still have some corrections and touch-ups. I
barely managed to get it done so that I could send it off before I leave
the country. I'll let you know later what my next project is (when *I*
know).
Author
Topic: 199710
(359 messages)
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #231
Message 271 -
1997-10-24 at 01:47:22
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Francois / small Barks article
Message 272 -
1997-10-24 at 03:04:38
FRANCOIS, 21-10-1997:
> Do you know for what publisher Schroder would do such a work?
I have no idea.
SMALL BARKS ARTICLE
I found a small article on Carl Barks in the Dutch magazine "Aktueel"
(97/44) in the chapter "Groot Nieuws" (Big News) which contains all
kinds of loose information. Here's a translation:
The most famous Duck-drawer [cartoonist? what's a good word here?]
of the first hour is Carl Barks (now age 96). He was de comic-
architect of Duckburg, and contrived *Uncle Scrooge*, Gladstone
Gander, Gyro Gearloose and the Beagle Boys (prison-registration
numbers 176-167, 176-761 and 176-671). From 1942 to 1966 Barks
drew 6700 pages, which were destroyed because of lack of space
at the Disney-studio's...
What I'm wondering now is: How do they know this?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
> Do you know for what publisher Schroder would do such a work?
I have no idea.
SMALL BARKS ARTICLE
I found a small article on Carl Barks in the Dutch magazine "Aktueel"
(97/44) in the chapter "Groot Nieuws" (Big News) which contains all
kinds of loose information. Here's a translation:
The most famous Duck-drawer [cartoonist? what's a good word here?]
of the first hour is Carl Barks (now age 96). He was de comic-
architect of Duckburg, and contrived *Uncle Scrooge*, Gladstone
Gander, Gyro Gearloose and the Beagle Boys (prison-registration
numbers 176-167, 176-761 and 176-671). From 1942 to 1966 Barks
drew 6700 pages, which were destroyed because of lack of space
at the Disney-studio's...
What I'm wondering now is: How do they know this?
Greetings,
--- Daniel
SRoweCanoe
July. Gladstone, and ...
Message 273 -
1997-10-24 at 03:27:12
In a message dated 97-10-23 11:23:35 EDT, Wilmer Rivers wrote:
<< Actually, there was a fairly popular song about 20 (or more?) years
ago called "July, You're a Woman". I think it was by John Stuart,
formerly of the Kingston Trio, which means that it was probably really
by John Hartford (of "Gentle on My Mind" fame) instead, since I always
get those two guys mixed up. Anyway, in at least that one instance,
"July" can be used as a female name. >>
I have a 1973 album by Red, White and Blue(grass); with that song. It was
indeed written by John Stewart of the Kingston Trio.
If Gladstone is banned, then I guess alot of you folks would want to start
trading with the US / Canadian fans. I'm not the best source, but would be
willing to help out, if needed.
David Gerstein: Does your Felix the Cat web page still exist? If so, what's
the address?
Steven Rowe
<< Actually, there was a fairly popular song about 20 (or more?) years
ago called "July, You're a Woman". I think it was by John Stuart,
formerly of the Kingston Trio, which means that it was probably really
by John Hartford (of "Gentle on My Mind" fame) instead, since I always
get those two guys mixed up. Anyway, in at least that one instance,
"July" can be used as a female name. >>
I have a 1973 album by Red, White and Blue(grass); with that song. It was
indeed written by John Stewart of the Kingston Trio.
If Gladstone is banned, then I guess alot of you folks would want to start
trading with the US / Canadian fans. I'm not the best source, but would be
willing to help out, if needed.
David Gerstein: Does your Felix the Cat web page still exist? If so, what's
the address?
Steven Rowe
Carey M. Furlong
Say it Ain't So!!
Message 274 -
1997-10-24 at 04:59:23
(Email removed) wrote:
> Today I received very bad news, all the Gladstone titles are canceled
> almost everywhere(not Canada and USA).>>
I am *FED UP* with this kind of treatment of Gladstone, and by
inference, myself! If Gladstone goes under, or has to seriously cutback
their operations because they cannot afford to distribute solely to the
minuscule US market it means, in essence, there will be no more
regularly produced high quality Disney books for us here in America!!
Oh, sure, we may get some overseas, english derivatives, or special
one-shot publications, but it won't be the same!
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! Disney Corporation is so good at alienating
those who once loved them.
Suffice it to say, if Gladstone goes out of business, I will be *very*
upset with Disney Corp. and several other business entities I won't name
in this ridiculous diatribe I have been compelled to write and subject
to the mailing list. Does anyone here on the ML know who we can write
to at Disney (snail mail) to re-examine this screwed-up, insensitive
decision? I promise I will calm down first before contacting them.
Sorry for getting excited and probably overreacting, but this
is very important. I sympathize with you folks at Gladstone. You've
got people out here who are with you.
Carey M. Furlong
- "Blasted kids must think I'm a whelcher!"
S. McDuck (US3 - OS 495)
Carey Furlong; Hungtington Beach, California;
(Email removed); (Email removed)
> Today I received very bad news, all the Gladstone titles are canceled
> almost everywhere(not Canada and USA).>>
I am *FED UP* with this kind of treatment of Gladstone, and by
inference, myself! If Gladstone goes under, or has to seriously cutback
their operations because they cannot afford to distribute solely to the
minuscule US market it means, in essence, there will be no more
regularly produced high quality Disney books for us here in America!!
Oh, sure, we may get some overseas, english derivatives, or special
one-shot publications, but it won't be the same!
FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! Disney Corporation is so good at alienating
those who once loved them.
Suffice it to say, if Gladstone goes out of business, I will be *very*
upset with Disney Corp. and several other business entities I won't name
in this ridiculous diatribe I have been compelled to write and subject
to the mailing list. Does anyone here on the ML know who we can write
to at Disney (snail mail) to re-examine this screwed-up, insensitive
decision? I promise I will calm down first before contacting them.
Sorry for getting excited and probably overreacting, but this
is very important. I sympathize with you folks at Gladstone. You've
got people out here who are with you.
Carey M. Furlong
- "Blasted kids must think I'm a whelcher!"
S. McDuck (US3 - OS 495)
Carey Furlong; Hungtington Beach, California;
(Email removed); (Email removed)
HoyMurphy
$crooge's Coat Color
Message 275 -
1997-10-24 at 05:35:40
This is no big deal, at least to me, but I collect a lot of $crooge figures
(at least the ones I can find and afford), and notice that his coat is
colored either red or blue. I recall a story Barks wrote (or was it Keno
Don?) about how $crooge got that coat, and I was wondering if there is a
"correct" color for the coat? Sometimes the furl lining of the sleeves and
collar are different colors, too, and I seem to recall some comic books where
the coat was a lime green! Now that Disney has declared an official color
scheme for the nephews, has a similar mandate been placed on the coat?
--your pal, Hoy
(at least the ones I can find and afford), and notice that his coat is
colored either red or blue. I recall a story Barks wrote (or was it Keno
Don?) about how $crooge got that coat, and I was wondering if there is a
"correct" color for the coat? Sometimes the furl lining of the sleeves and
collar are different colors, too, and I seem to recall some comic books where
the coat was a lime green! Now that Disney has declared an official color
scheme for the nephews, has a similar mandate been placed on the coat?
--your pal, Hoy
Rich Bellacera
Twins, Triplets and others
Message 276 -
1997-10-24 at 08:06:05
TWINS, TRIPLETS & OTHERS:
Why not take this a step further to include characters and their junior
proteges (whether related or not)? I'm sure many of you can make a
longer list than I, but here's my contribution (Disney only):
Mickey Mouse = Morty & Ferdie Fieldmouse (twin nephews)
Minnie Mouse = Millie & Melody (a.k.a. Pammy & Tammy
- twin nieces)
Goofy = Goofy Jr. from the "George Geef" shorts (son, a.k.a. Max
in "Goof Troop")
Super Goof = Super Gilly (Gilbert) (nephew)
Pluto = Pluto Jr. and his four siblings (son, as well as Pluto's Kid
Brother)
Donald Duck = Huey, Dewey & Louie (triplet nephews)
Daisy Duck = April, May & June (triplet nieces)
Bad Pete = Pete Jr. from "Bellboy Donald" (son, a.k.a. P.J. in
"Goof Troop")
Baloo Bear = Kit Cloudkicker (protege)
Beagle Boys, Inc. = Beagle Brats (1, 2, & 3 - triplet nephews) and
Beagle Babes (Beatrice & two sisters - triplet nieces)
Bent-Tail = Bent-tail Jr. (son)
Bentina Beakley = Webbigail "Webby Duck" Vanderquack
(grand-daughter)
Big Bad (Zeke) Wolf = Li'l Bad or Three Little Wolves (sons)
Big Toot = Li'l Toot (son)
Bootle Beetle = Ezra Beetle (nephew?)
Br'er Bear = Kubs & Klibs (twin sons, and other faternal twins:
Billie & Tillie)
Br'er Rabbit = Twin nephews (names?)
Buckey Bug = Buckey Jr. (also Tic 'n Tac) (nephews?)
Chip 'n' Dale = Zip 'n' Zap (twin nephews)
Clarabelle Cow = Itsey-Betsy (niece) & Bertie the Jinx (cousin)
DarkWing Duck/Drake Mallard = QuiverWing Quack/Gosalyn
(adopted daughter)
Duchess = Marie (daughter)
Fethry Duck = Nib (Biquinho or Pennino - nephew)
Gladstone Gander = Shamrock Gander (nephew, though two
equally lucky nieces also appear in a story)
Glittering Goldie = Dickie Duck (grand-daughter or niece)
Gremlin Gus = the twin Widgets
Gus Goose = Cousin Sock (Socrates M. Gosling)
Gyro Gearloose = Newton (nephew)
Jose Carioca = Zico & Zeca (twin nephews)
Lady = Ruffles, Fluffy & Scooter (triplet daughters)
Launchpad McQuack = Doofus (protege)
Louie the Mtn. Lion = Louie Jr. (son)
Magica de Spell = Minima de Spell (niece)
Owl = Dexter Owl (nephew from "New Adventures of
Winnie the Pooh")
Peg Pete = Pistol (daughter)
Phantom Blot = Phantom Brat (daughter)
Rebecca Cunningham = Molly (daughter)
Stef (Zeb?) Wolf = Izzy Wolf (son)
Thomas O'Malley = Berloiz & Toulouse (adopted sons)
Tramp = Scamp (son)
Witch Hazel = Witchis Witch (nephew)
* Of course some of these are NOT very even matches (like Big
Bad & Li'l Bad, Clarabelle & Bertie or Gus & Sock, and others).
GLADSTONE REQUEST:
Gary, with all this talk of Cavazzano it got me wondering if there's
a chance the classic Italian Mickey & Minnie Cavazzano retelling
of "Casablanca" will ever appear in an upcoming WDC&S?
[STORYCODE: I TL 1657-A, Mickey Mouse: "Topolino e Minni in
'Casablanca'" (52 pages). Written & Drawn by Giorgio Cavazzano]
LOOKING FOR INFO ABOUT:
Black Pete as Super-hero or maybe just hero
Buck Duck & Calamity
Cavillo Busillis (?) - R. Scarpa character
Ducklien - R. Scarpa character
Gloomy the Mechanic
Glory-Bee, Goofy's girlfriend
Hard Haid Moe
Honkey GoKart (Umperio Bogarto)
Little Gum
Magali (Magica de Spell's niece? a.k.a. Minima de Spell?)
Nestor, Pedro, Zico & Zeca, Primo, Gilo, and a duckbill
who are friends, foes and relatives of Ze Carioca
OK Quack the alien visitor
Ottoperotto (a Dachshund looking "Beagle Boy"?)
Plottigat - R. Scarpa character
Reginella, Donald's girlfriend from several Cavazzano tales
Shamrock Bones
The Sleuth
Trudy (Pete's girlfriend)
Witchis Witch (Witch Hazel's nephew)
Zenobia
Zigia(?) - R. Scarpa character
and any others that you may know of who have appeared several times
in non-USA Disney comics. I am familiar with what is available on
some in Per's character list, but I am looking to add these characters to
the "HooZoo List" and require much more information. Any you can
provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Well, until the mysterious fourth nephew "Phooey" meets the
mysterious fourth niece "Julie"....ciao.
-Rich (xephyr)
"Its because the planets' current alignment favors dogs. We're in a
Pluto phase." (Cadpig from "101 Dalmatians: Citizen Canine").
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Why not take this a step further to include characters and their junior
proteges (whether related or not)? I'm sure many of you can make a
longer list than I, but here's my contribution (Disney only):
Mickey Mouse = Morty & Ferdie Fieldmouse (twin nephews)
Minnie Mouse = Millie & Melody (a.k.a. Pammy & Tammy
- twin nieces)
Goofy = Goofy Jr. from the "George Geef" shorts (son, a.k.a. Max
in "Goof Troop")
Super Goof = Super Gilly (Gilbert) (nephew)
Pluto = Pluto Jr. and his four siblings (son, as well as Pluto's Kid
Brother)
Donald Duck = Huey, Dewey & Louie (triplet nephews)
Daisy Duck = April, May & June (triplet nieces)
Bad Pete = Pete Jr. from "Bellboy Donald" (son, a.k.a. P.J. in
"Goof Troop")
Baloo Bear = Kit Cloudkicker (protege)
Beagle Boys, Inc. = Beagle Brats (1, 2, & 3 - triplet nephews) and
Beagle Babes (Beatrice & two sisters - triplet nieces)
Bent-Tail = Bent-tail Jr. (son)
Bentina Beakley = Webbigail "Webby Duck" Vanderquack
(grand-daughter)
Big Bad (Zeke) Wolf = Li'l Bad or Three Little Wolves (sons)
Big Toot = Li'l Toot (son)
Bootle Beetle = Ezra Beetle (nephew?)
Br'er Bear = Kubs & Klibs (twin sons, and other faternal twins:
Billie & Tillie)
Br'er Rabbit = Twin nephews (names?)
Buckey Bug = Buckey Jr. (also Tic 'n Tac) (nephews?)
Chip 'n' Dale = Zip 'n' Zap (twin nephews)
Clarabelle Cow = Itsey-Betsy (niece) & Bertie the Jinx (cousin)
DarkWing Duck/Drake Mallard = QuiverWing Quack/Gosalyn
(adopted daughter)
Duchess = Marie (daughter)
Fethry Duck = Nib (Biquinho or Pennino - nephew)
Gladstone Gander = Shamrock Gander (nephew, though two
equally lucky nieces also appear in a story)
Glittering Goldie = Dickie Duck (grand-daughter or niece)
Gremlin Gus = the twin Widgets
Gus Goose = Cousin Sock (Socrates M. Gosling)
Gyro Gearloose = Newton (nephew)
Jose Carioca = Zico & Zeca (twin nephews)
Lady = Ruffles, Fluffy & Scooter (triplet daughters)
Launchpad McQuack = Doofus (protege)
Louie the Mtn. Lion = Louie Jr. (son)
Magica de Spell = Minima de Spell (niece)
Owl = Dexter Owl (nephew from "New Adventures of
Winnie the Pooh")
Peg Pete = Pistol (daughter)
Phantom Blot = Phantom Brat (daughter)
Rebecca Cunningham = Molly (daughter)
Stef (Zeb?) Wolf = Izzy Wolf (son)
Thomas O'Malley = Berloiz & Toulouse (adopted sons)
Tramp = Scamp (son)
Witch Hazel = Witchis Witch (nephew)
* Of course some of these are NOT very even matches (like Big
Bad & Li'l Bad, Clarabelle & Bertie or Gus & Sock, and others).
GLADSTONE REQUEST:
Gary, with all this talk of Cavazzano it got me wondering if there's
a chance the classic Italian Mickey & Minnie Cavazzano retelling
of "Casablanca" will ever appear in an upcoming WDC&S?
[STORYCODE: I TL 1657-A, Mickey Mouse: "Topolino e Minni in
'Casablanca'" (52 pages). Written & Drawn by Giorgio Cavazzano]
LOOKING FOR INFO ABOUT:
Black Pete as Super-hero or maybe just hero
Buck Duck & Calamity
Cavillo Busillis (?) - R. Scarpa character
Ducklien - R. Scarpa character
Gloomy the Mechanic
Glory-Bee, Goofy's girlfriend
Hard Haid Moe
Honkey GoKart (Umperio Bogarto)
Little Gum
Magali (Magica de Spell's niece? a.k.a. Minima de Spell?)
Nestor, Pedro, Zico & Zeca, Primo, Gilo, and a duckbill
who are friends, foes and relatives of Ze Carioca
OK Quack the alien visitor
Ottoperotto (a Dachshund looking "Beagle Boy"?)
Plottigat - R. Scarpa character
Reginella, Donald's girlfriend from several Cavazzano tales
Shamrock Bones
The Sleuth
Trudy (Pete's girlfriend)
Witchis Witch (Witch Hazel's nephew)
Zenobia
Zigia(?) - R. Scarpa character
and any others that you may know of who have appeared several times
in non-USA Disney comics. I am familiar with what is available on
some in Per's character list, but I am looking to add these characters to
the "HooZoo List" and require much more information. Any you can
provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.
Well, until the mysterious fourth nephew "Phooey" meets the
mysterious fourth niece "Julie"....ciao.
-Rich (xephyr)
"Its because the planets' current alignment favors dogs. We're in a
Pluto phase." (Cadpig from "101 Dalmatians: Citizen Canine").
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #231
Message 277 -
1997-10-24 at 10:28:43
MATTHIEU BONNEAU:
> If "Rosa" is your name, and "Don" your firstname, so what about "Keno" ??
Actually, I believe "Keno" is his FIRST name, and "Don" is his MIDDLE
name. Most Americans have two names (first and middle). They usually go
by their first name, only using the initial of their middle name (e.g.,
Richard M. Nixon). Occasionally, however, if they like their middle
name more than their first name, they go by their middle name, only
using the initial of their first name (e.g., J. Edgar Hoover). Thus, I
suspect that Don's name is something like K. Don Rosa. (Unless, of course,
it is Keno D. Rosa, in which case the former is only his nom-de-plume.)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"I am not expendable, I am not stupid and I am not going!"
-----
> If "Rosa" is your name, and "Don" your firstname, so what about "Keno" ??
Actually, I believe "Keno" is his FIRST name, and "Don" is his MIDDLE
name. Most Americans have two names (first and middle). They usually go
by their first name, only using the initial of their middle name (e.g.,
Richard M. Nixon). Occasionally, however, if they like their middle
name more than their first name, they go by their middle name, only
using the initial of their first name (e.g., J. Edgar Hoover). Thus, I
suspect that Don's name is something like K. Don Rosa. (Unless, of course,
it is Keno D. Rosa, in which case the former is only his nom-de-plume.)
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"I am not expendable, I am not stupid and I am not going!"
-----
Marco Barlotti
Index of Italian Disney stories: <new-improved> version on
Message 278 -
1997-10-24 at 11:54:30
The new version of my index of Italian Disney stories is on line at
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/
(but Italians might prefer to take a look at
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/Indice.html)
WHAT'S NEW:
Minor corrections in the credits and in the titles. Thanks to Francois
Willot for this!
Many more reprints are now pointed out. In particular, hundreds of reprints
which appeared on "Albi della Rosa" (thanks to Luna Storta, who kindly sent
me his data!).
A new file carries (some of) the Italian stories which appeared on "Paperino
Mese"-"Paperino":
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/PaperinoMese.html
TO COME:
A file with the Italian stories which appeared on "Topo Mistery" (in case
Frank Stajano or anyone else is willing to send me his data...)
CONTRIBUTIONS ARE WELCOME!!!!
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/
(but Italians might prefer to take a look at
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/Indice.html)
WHAT'S NEW:
Minor corrections in the credits and in the titles. Thanks to Francois
Willot for this!
Many more reprints are now pointed out. In particular, hundreds of reprints
which appeared on "Albi della Rosa" (thanks to Luna Storta, who kindly sent
me his data!).
A new file carries (some of) the Italian stories which appeared on "Paperino
Mese"-"Paperino":
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it/DisneyIndex/PaperinoMese.html
TO COME:
A file with the Italian stories which appeared on "Topo Mistery" (in case
Frank Stajano or anyone else is willing to send me his data...)
CONTRIBUTIONS ARE WELCOME!!!!
Marco
http://marcobar.cce.unifi.it
Luna Storta
Some stuff
Message 279 -
1997-10-24 at 11:57:05
Hello,
About identical charachters:
In one of my preferred stories "Topolino e la dimensione Delta", there
are two identical charachters: "atomino Bip-Bip" and his brother
"Atomino Bep-Bep". Bep-Bep will disappear before the story's end, and
will never appear again, however I think he can be included in the
"twin-set" because he appears in a *REALLY GREAT* story!!
Maybe we can include Pflip II from the Scarpa's story "Topolino e il
doppio mistero di Macchia Nera" who is another thnuckle-boo. BTW I think
that in the reprints outside Italy it has benn called just Pflip.
...and still there are some identical charachters in some Mickey Mouse
stories from Gottfredson: Billy the Mouse, Mickey's dangerous double,
The Monarch of Medioka, and something else that at the moment I don't
recall...oh, yes another one: Mickey Junior in The World of Tomorrow!!
LUCCA meeting:
Well, the time to meet for the International Disney Brigade is coming...
It seems sure that we'll meet on Sunday, but where exactly (I'vwe never
been in Lucca)? and when?
FRANCOIS:
Some issues ago you mentionated an interview with Floyd Gottfredson
(about the creation of HD&L); can you tell me where is it from? I've
found just one interview with the *GREAT* Floyd, and it's very short.
>...that could only be Guido Martina, the best Disney comics writer
>of all times (with Barks)...
I 100% agree with you about Martina!! Does someone knows if it is
possible to find a book about him somewhere (possibly with an index of
his works)?
KATIE and DON about Goldie:
>...think about how she acted with $crooge. Someone with so much >*ahem*
experience wouldn't be so shy in approaching him. She wouldn't >play so
hard-to-get.
...well it souds exact to my idea of her precedent way-of-life: maybe
that her behaviour is caused by her previous experiences with another
man (er... I mean DUCK!) who made her suffer: I repeat: maybe she had a
love story with him and they got a child, but soon he disapperared,
leaving her alone...and with the idea to never fall in love again! (this
explains well her realtionship with Dickie Duck!)!
P.S.: MARCO:
I tried to reach you via e - mail, but I alwais receive an error: it
seems like if your e-mail address doesn't exist anymore.... is it still
the old one or is it changed? BTW why am I writing in english if we are
both italian!?!?!??!?! ;-)
Ciao
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
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About identical charachters:
In one of my preferred stories "Topolino e la dimensione Delta", there
are two identical charachters: "atomino Bip-Bip" and his brother
"Atomino Bep-Bep". Bep-Bep will disappear before the story's end, and
will never appear again, however I think he can be included in the
"twin-set" because he appears in a *REALLY GREAT* story!!
Maybe we can include Pflip II from the Scarpa's story "Topolino e il
doppio mistero di Macchia Nera" who is another thnuckle-boo. BTW I think
that in the reprints outside Italy it has benn called just Pflip.
...and still there are some identical charachters in some Mickey Mouse
stories from Gottfredson: Billy the Mouse, Mickey's dangerous double,
The Monarch of Medioka, and something else that at the moment I don't
recall...oh, yes another one: Mickey Junior in The World of Tomorrow!!
LUCCA meeting:
Well, the time to meet for the International Disney Brigade is coming...
It seems sure that we'll meet on Sunday, but where exactly (I'vwe never
been in Lucca)? and when?
FRANCOIS:
Some issues ago you mentionated an interview with Floyd Gottfredson
(about the creation of HD&L); can you tell me where is it from? I've
found just one interview with the *GREAT* Floyd, and it's very short.
>...that could only be Guido Martina, the best Disney comics writer
>of all times (with Barks)...
I 100% agree with you about Martina!! Does someone knows if it is
possible to find a book about him somewhere (possibly with an index of
his works)?
KATIE and DON about Goldie:
>...think about how she acted with $crooge. Someone with so much >*ahem*
experience wouldn't be so shy in approaching him. She wouldn't >play so
hard-to-get.
...well it souds exact to my idea of her precedent way-of-life: maybe
that her behaviour is caused by her previous experiences with another
man (er... I mean DUCK!) who made her suffer: I repeat: maybe she had a
love story with him and they got a child, but soon he disapperared,
leaving her alone...and with the idea to never fall in love again! (this
explains well her realtionship with Dickie Duck!)!
P.S.: MARCO:
I tried to reach you via e - mail, but I alwais receive an error: it
seems like if your e-mail address doesn't exist anymore.... is it still
the old one or is it changed? BTW why am I writing in english if we are
both italian!?!?!??!?! ;-)
Ciao
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta
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Mikko Aittola
Gladstones Banned in Europe?
Message 280 -
1997-10-24 at 12:45:02
If this whole sick totalitarian protective ruse
is actually true - I mean the rumour that Gladstone books
are now banned in Europe -
Could some fellow mailing list pal start distributing the
stuff to Europeans? Despite the heavy taxing, we still
have some money left for such noble beings.
And, I'd like to announce the following too:
***Starting today, I won't spend ANY money on European Disney
***comic-books before the whole sick situation is cleared.
I'll visit my shop Tuesday and ask what they know about
this.
/Mikko
is actually true - I mean the rumour that Gladstone books
are now banned in Europe -
Could some fellow mailing list pal start distributing the
stuff to Europeans? Despite the heavy taxing, we still
have some money left for such noble beings.
And, I'd like to announce the following too:
***Starting today, I won't spend ANY money on European Disney
***comic-books before the whole sick situation is cleared.
I'll visit my shop Tuesday and ask what they know about
this.
/Mikko
Ivar Cavanagh
To Dwight Decker #231 HD&L Danish special issue
Message 281 -
1997-10-24 at 14:01:15
Text item: Text_1
Hi everybody
< I've seen is sort of a special Huey, Dewey, and Louie issue, and in
< the text section that gives a history of the nephews, the Fourth
In this Danish special issue they also claim a different color sceme
for Huey, Dewey, and Louie (I think it says Blue, Green, Red.)
According to the Character section of the Disney Comics Database it is
Red, Blue and Green.
So don't trust everything you read.
/Ivar Cavanagh
Hi everybody
< I've seen is sort of a special Huey, Dewey, and Louie issue, and in
< the text section that gives a history of the nephews, the Fourth
In this Danish special issue they also claim a different color sceme
for Huey, Dewey, and Louie (I think it says Blue, Green, Red.)
According to the Character section of the Disney Comics Database it is
Red, Blue and Green.
So don't trust everything you read.
/Ivar Cavanagh
Ole R. Nielsen
Rosa Steals From Strobl! Read all about it!
Message 282 -
1997-10-24 at 15:00:10
The German fanzine "Der Donaldist" has just come out with issue #102,
and a curious discovery has been made:
Don Rosa's story "Last Sled to Dawson" which recently came up as one
of the readers' favorites appears to be heavily inspired by a story
written by Carl Fallberg and drawn by Tony Strobl, "The Secret of
the Glacier" from Donald Duck #51, January 1957.
Several panels are practically identical - especially the panel with
part of the glacier breaking off the glacier where you can see the
sled inside is strikingly similar.
Readers from the Egmont countries (Germany & Nordic countries) can
find the story in issues 50-52/1960, and compare the individual
panels.
There are no listed reprints of the story, and if Don was only six
years old when he read it, it may be an example of his extraordinary
capacity for visual imagery.
I for one am sure he'll be as surprised as the rest of us when he
sees his story timewarped back some 30 years.
So let's hear, Don, how you'll talk yourself out of this blatant
plagiarism - and of Strobl nonetheless. ;-)
I'm joking of course: I still love your stories as much as I always
did, and it doesn't detract a bit from them that sometimes your
inspiration comes from the subconscious, rather than clever allusions
to other works. The other part of the German article dealt with the
Citizen Kane references in Lo$ chapter 12, and that doesn't come as
a surprise to any of us.
Hope perhaps to see you in Copenhagen around November 18.th.
(Maybe you could smuggle in some of those illegit American comic
books?)
-- Ole Reichstein Nielsen
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #232
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and a curious discovery has been made:
Don Rosa's story "Last Sled to Dawson" which recently came up as one
of the readers' favorites appears to be heavily inspired by a story
written by Carl Fallberg and drawn by Tony Strobl, "The Secret of
the Glacier" from Donald Duck #51, January 1957.
Several panels are practically identical - especially the panel with
part of the glacier breaking off the glacier where you can see the
sled inside is strikingly similar.
Readers from the Egmont countries (Germany & Nordic countries) can
find the story in issues 50-52/1960, and compare the individual
panels.
There are no listed reprints of the story, and if Don was only six
years old when he read it, it may be an example of his extraordinary
capacity for visual imagery.
I for one am sure he'll be as surprised as the rest of us when he
sees his story timewarped back some 30 years.
So let's hear, Don, how you'll talk yourself out of this blatant
plagiarism - and of Strobl nonetheless. ;-)
I'm joking of course: I still love your stories as much as I always
did, and it doesn't detract a bit from them that sometimes your
inspiration comes from the subconscious, rather than clever allusions
to other works. The other part of the German article dealt with the
Citizen Kane references in Lo$ chapter 12, and that doesn't come as
a surprise to any of us.
Hope perhaps to see you in Copenhagen around November 18.th.
(Maybe you could smuggle in some of those illegit American comic
books?)
-- Ole Reichstein Nielsen
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #232
******************************************
Fluks, H.W.
Small Barks article
Message 283 -
1997-10-24 at 15:31:27
Daniel:
>[...] From 1942 to 1966 Barks
>drew 6700 pages, which were destroyed because of lack of space
>at the Disney-studio's...
>What I'm wondering now is: How do they know this?
Similar figures and "facts" have been published in Dutch fanzines
since 1973. In this case, the journalist may have looked at an
article by Freddy Milton in "Stripschrift", 1976. But he didn't get
the details right...
--Harry.
>[...] From 1942 to 1966 Barks
>drew 6700 pages, which were destroyed because of lack of space
>at the Disney-studio's...
>What I'm wondering now is: How do they know this?
Similar figures and "facts" have been published in Dutch fanzines
since 1973. In this case, the journalist may have looked at an
article by Freddy Milton in "Stripschrift", 1976. But he didn't get
the details right...
--Harry.
Wilmer Rivers
Last Sled to Dawson
Message 284 -
1997-10-24 at 17:19:40
Ole R. Nielsen writes:
> The other part of the German article dealt with the
> Citizen Kane references in Lo$ chapter 12
What about the "Citizen Kane" references in "His Majesty, McDuck",
too? Those were also good for a chuckle.
[Off-topic: my favorite comics reference to "Citizen Kane" was a
comic published in an early issue of "National Lampoon". It was
a comic parody of a movie drawn in perfect Mort Drucker style, so
it was really a parody of a Mad Magazine parody. The comic was
called "Citizen Gaines", and it was about a humor-magazine publisher
who starts his magazine with high ideals to accept no advertising and
to satirize mercilessly all the foibles of society but who in time
makes the magazine bland in order to broaden its commercial potential.]
> Don Rosa's story "Last Sled to Dawson" which recently came up as one
> of the readers' favorites appears to be heavily inspired by a story
> written by Carl Fallberg and drawn by Tony Strobl, "The Secret of
> the Glacier" from Donald Duck #51, January 1957.
Actually, the basic idea of waiting for nature to take its course
so that treasure lost in a glacier would eventually re-surface is one
that's been used before in movies and TV, although right off the top
of my head I can't cite any of the titles. In particular, I recall
a TV show from the early 1960s where a mountain climber plunged into a
crevice in a glacier during an avalanche, and the authorities waited
for 20 years to recover his body, so that they could prove that he had
actually been shot rather than fell accidentally. Or am I getting this
mixed up with some old movie? I'm sure someone here remembers the
real plot line.
Wilmer Rivers
> The other part of the German article dealt with the
> Citizen Kane references in Lo$ chapter 12
What about the "Citizen Kane" references in "His Majesty, McDuck",
too? Those were also good for a chuckle.
[Off-topic: my favorite comics reference to "Citizen Kane" was a
comic published in an early issue of "National Lampoon". It was
a comic parody of a movie drawn in perfect Mort Drucker style, so
it was really a parody of a Mad Magazine parody. The comic was
called "Citizen Gaines", and it was about a humor-magazine publisher
who starts his magazine with high ideals to accept no advertising and
to satirize mercilessly all the foibles of society but who in time
makes the magazine bland in order to broaden its commercial potential.]
> Don Rosa's story "Last Sled to Dawson" which recently came up as one
> of the readers' favorites appears to be heavily inspired by a story
> written by Carl Fallberg and drawn by Tony Strobl, "The Secret of
> the Glacier" from Donald Duck #51, January 1957.
Actually, the basic idea of waiting for nature to take its course
so that treasure lost in a glacier would eventually re-surface is one
that's been used before in movies and TV, although right off the top
of my head I can't cite any of the titles. In particular, I recall
a TV show from the early 1960s where a mountain climber plunged into a
crevice in a glacier during an avalanche, and the authorities waited
for 20 years to recover his body, so that they could prove that he had
actually been shot rather than fell accidentally. Or am I getting this
mixed up with some old movie? I'm sure someone here remembers the
real plot line.
Wilmer Rivers
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #232
Message 285 -
1997-10-24 at 19:30:57
I have just enough time for one last, quick message to the list. This is
good because it was embarrassing to see that I misspelled my own name in
that reply to the fellow asking about same! It's Gioachino, not "Giachino"!
Someone (and I don't have time to check) was asking if Disney has decided
on color for Scrooge's coat. They have -- the DuckTales colors of blue with
red trim. Fortunately, what Disney decides about the colors of that
Ducktales character has no bearing on the actual $crooge McDuck comic-book
character.
I go along with Gladstone's choice which is the definite color according to
the people-in-the-know: RED with GRAY trim. The Egmont coloring isn't too
bad... rust-red, but without a different trim color. What perplexes me, and
which no one has ever explained, is why they picked BLUE as the color of
his cane! Who has ever heard of a blue cane?
OLE:
I have always freely admitted, from the day "Last Sled to Dawson" was first
published, that I took one of the images in that story (a sled frozen deep
in a glacier and marked by an old rifle) from that old Strobl story. It was
my favorite non-Barks $crooge tale. I've stated this fact in numerous texts
and interviews. It's never been a secret.
These analytical articles that appear in DER DONALDIST should point that
fact out. Not only have I never denied where I get certain ideas, I always
make sure I openly offer that information from the start so that nobody
thinks I'm trying to swipe something. I hope that's not what that article
implies. I sometimes get the feeling that those German fellas like to write
articles with very harsh attitudes, like they enjoy starting trouble. I
think they also wrote a long article showing all the Barks poses I copied
when I was first learning to draw Ducks 10 years ago, another fact of
learning-how-to-draw-from-scratch that I have also always freely admitted
to. Someone said that article claimed that I "traced" my comics, which
isn't true (and which common sense should tell anyone would be far too
difficult to accomplish... each pose would need to be the *precisely*
correct size and position). The writer of that article sent me an e-mail
request for a comment, which I took trouble to send him, but (unless I'm
wrong since I can't read German) I don't see any evidence he included my
comments in the article... I hope it wasn't because my free admissions and
explanations messed up some sour point he wanted to make. But... I'll see
the Donaldists next week and I'll ask them about what these articles say. I
welcome criticism as long as it's fair and not misleading from the facts.
The next thing I know they might write that I claim to be a good artist!
Bye. Off to Europe. I'm gonna hunt down the Man In Black who put the kibosh
on Gladstone. I'll file a report when I return...
good because it was embarrassing to see that I misspelled my own name in
that reply to the fellow asking about same! It's Gioachino, not "Giachino"!
Someone (and I don't have time to check) was asking if Disney has decided
on color for Scrooge's coat. They have -- the DuckTales colors of blue with
red trim. Fortunately, what Disney decides about the colors of that
Ducktales character has no bearing on the actual $crooge McDuck comic-book
character.
I go along with Gladstone's choice which is the definite color according to
the people-in-the-know: RED with GRAY trim. The Egmont coloring isn't too
bad... rust-red, but without a different trim color. What perplexes me, and
which no one has ever explained, is why they picked BLUE as the color of
his cane! Who has ever heard of a blue cane?
OLE:
I have always freely admitted, from the day "Last Sled to Dawson" was first
published, that I took one of the images in that story (a sled frozen deep
in a glacier and marked by an old rifle) from that old Strobl story. It was
my favorite non-Barks $crooge tale. I've stated this fact in numerous texts
and interviews. It's never been a secret.
These analytical articles that appear in DER DONALDIST should point that
fact out. Not only have I never denied where I get certain ideas, I always
make sure I openly offer that information from the start so that nobody
thinks I'm trying to swipe something. I hope that's not what that article
implies. I sometimes get the feeling that those German fellas like to write
articles with very harsh attitudes, like they enjoy starting trouble. I
think they also wrote a long article showing all the Barks poses I copied
when I was first learning to draw Ducks 10 years ago, another fact of
learning-how-to-draw-from-scratch that I have also always freely admitted
to. Someone said that article claimed that I "traced" my comics, which
isn't true (and which common sense should tell anyone would be far too
difficult to accomplish... each pose would need to be the *precisely*
correct size and position). The writer of that article sent me an e-mail
request for a comment, which I took trouble to send him, but (unless I'm
wrong since I can't read German) I don't see any evidence he included my
comments in the article... I hope it wasn't because my free admissions and
explanations messed up some sour point he wanted to make. But... I'll see
the Donaldists next week and I'll ask them about what these articles say. I
welcome criticism as long as it's fair and not misleading from the facts.
The next thing I know they might write that I claim to be a good artist!
Bye. Off to Europe. I'm gonna hunt down the Man In Black who put the kibosh
on Gladstone. I'll file a report when I return...