Lately, several people have discussed Barks and his evidentially bad
dialogue in some stories. This is brand new to me, would anyone care to
name a few stories where this is especially clear ? (preferably also with
information about where in the CBLiC the story is)
Eirik Krogh Visted
"What's the point of going out? We're just going to wind up back here
anyway."
- Homer J. Simpson
Author
Topic: 199710
(359 messages)
Eirik Krogh Visted
Bad Barks dialogue
Message 76 -
1997-10-09 at 00:27:43
Rik Pierce
Disney comics Digest V97 #218
Message 77 -
1997-10-09 at 00:40:17
On Wed, 8 Oct 97 21:06:16 +0000, Tarjei Kidd Olsen wrote:
|So his name is Cavazzano! I recognise his art from countless pocketbooks,
|but I never knew his name. Gary, would I be correct in saying you've never
|printed any stories by him before(I sure haven't seen any that I can think of)?
| I've actually grown to like his art. You might too, Rik, if you were as
|used to the regular Norwegian Donald Duck weeklies as I am(they print some
|REALLY bad art from time to time(IMHO)). His stuff is really quite good in
|comparison to some I've seen. Hmmm. come to think of it, it has a kind of
|wackiness to it that differs from Van Horn wackiness....(but is good anyway,
|in my opinion)..His stories seem to have more *life* to them than many other
|european ones....
You all have a much more open outlook than I do. You have to
understand how new I am to the list and to the information herein. All
my life the only stories that I ever deemed worthy of even reading
were those of Barks. I look at Cavazzano's work here again and I can
see that one could get to like this wackiness. It's hard for me to say
though. For me his drawings are imitations of the real thing. It may
take a while. I ordered the full set of Barks Donald Duck books and am
now deliciously reading them - many I believe for the first time, and
it's such a joy I'm about to send for the Comics & Stories (don't tell
my wife how much this is costing!)
------------
Rik in Carlisle, MA
(Email removed)
|So his name is Cavazzano! I recognise his art from countless pocketbooks,
|but I never knew his name. Gary, would I be correct in saying you've never
|printed any stories by him before(I sure haven't seen any that I can think of)?
| I've actually grown to like his art. You might too, Rik, if you were as
|used to the regular Norwegian Donald Duck weeklies as I am(they print some
|REALLY bad art from time to time(IMHO)). His stuff is really quite good in
|comparison to some I've seen. Hmmm. come to think of it, it has a kind of
|wackiness to it that differs from Van Horn wackiness....(but is good anyway,
|in my opinion)..His stories seem to have more *life* to them than many other
|european ones....
You all have a much more open outlook than I do. You have to
understand how new I am to the list and to the information herein. All
my life the only stories that I ever deemed worthy of even reading
were those of Barks. I look at Cavazzano's work here again and I can
see that one could get to like this wackiness. It's hard for me to say
though. For me his drawings are imitations of the real thing. It may
take a while. I ordered the full set of Barks Donald Duck books and am
now deliciously reading them - many I believe for the first time, and
it's such a joy I'm about to send for the Comics & Stories (don't tell
my wife how much this is costing!)
------------
Rik in Carlisle, MA
(Email removed)
Dominik
Limited Rosa Box reeased in Germany. My opinion!
Message 78 -
1997-10-09 at 01:23:00
I was very dissapointed too. I actually didn't like the idea of this box since I
heard from it. I am not sure which kind of consumer Ehapa had in mind when they
published this expensive Comic-Box. All 'real' Don Rosa fans already have those
stories, so why should they spent that much money on it?
And all none Don Rosa fans wouldn' t even think of buying it! For me the only
reason for buying this box would have been a nice box, the limted edition and
the signed picture.
Dominik Altevogt
Keltenring 190
79199 Kirchzarten
(Email removed)
heard from it. I am not sure which kind of consumer Ehapa had in mind when they
published this expensive Comic-Box. All 'real' Don Rosa fans already have those
stories, so why should they spent that much money on it?
And all none Don Rosa fans wouldn' t even think of buying it! For me the only
reason for buying this box would have been a nice box, the limted edition and
the signed picture.
Dominik Altevogt
Keltenring 190
79199 Kirchzarten
(Email removed)
Dominik
Limited Rosa Box reeased in Germany. My opinion!
Message 79 -
1997-10-09 at 01:23:00
I was very dissapointed too. I actually didn't like the idea of this box since I
heard from it. I am not sure which kind of consumer Ehapa had in mind when they
published this expensive Comic-Box. All 'real' Don Rosa fans already have those
stories, so why should they spent that much money on it?
And all none Don Rosa fans wouldn't even think of buying it! For me the only
reason for buying it would have been a nice box, the limted edition and
the signed picture!!!. :-(
Consequence: I gonna save my money and wait for a Hardcover version of Lo$
Dominik Altevogt
Keltenring 190
79199 Kirchzarten
(Email removed)
heard from it. I am not sure which kind of consumer Ehapa had in mind when they
published this expensive Comic-Box. All 'real' Don Rosa fans already have those
stories, so why should they spent that much money on it?
And all none Don Rosa fans wouldn't even think of buying it! For me the only
reason for buying it would have been a nice box, the limted edition and
the signed picture!!!. :-(
Consequence: I gonna save my money and wait for a Hardcover version of Lo$
Dominik Altevogt
Keltenring 190
79199 Kirchzarten
(Email removed)
Cebarat
Re; Disney Comics Digest V97 #216
Message 80 -
1997-10-09 at 02:01:51
DONALD MARKSTEIN commented, regarding the knowledge of people who work at
the Disney Stores:
<<While it's true that the norm is for such people to know
very little about the product (especially as compared to the
erudition of folks like you and me), I ran into a surprisingly
knowledgeable person a few years ago...
(description cut)>>
I'm extremely impressed that this individual was able to spin off an
immediate response about Bucky Bug, of all characters. I would be
less impressed if the character in question were an obscure character
from a theatrical feature, but to have such knowledge at one's finger
tips about an older and lesser-knowncomics character is above and
beyond the call.
In a lot of cases, I'm sure that Disney Stores count among their
cast members individuals who wanted to work there because of their
love of all things Disney, and these people are glad to impart their
knowledge to patrons. Sadly, a lot of stores have no such resource...
--Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"WHAT KIND OF CRAZY STORE IS THIS?!" -- Glomgold, "DuckTales" episode "The
Golden Goose, Part 1"
the Disney Stores:
<<While it's true that the norm is for such people to know
very little about the product (especially as compared to the
erudition of folks like you and me), I ran into a surprisingly
knowledgeable person a few years ago...
(description cut)>>
I'm extremely impressed that this individual was able to spin off an
immediate response about Bucky Bug, of all characters. I would be
less impressed if the character in question were an obscure character
from a theatrical feature, but to have such knowledge at one's finger
tips about an older and lesser-knowncomics character is above and
beyond the call.
In a lot of cases, I'm sure that Disney Stores count among their
cast members individuals who wanted to work there because of their
love of all things Disney, and these people are glad to impart their
knowledge to patrons. Sadly, a lot of stores have no such resource...
--Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
"WHAT KIND OF CRAZY STORE IS THIS?!" -- Glomgold, "DuckTales" episode "The
Golden Goose, Part 1"
JTorci3511
E-Mail Virus Circulating. Take This Seriously! (not a hoax or spam)
Message 81 -
1997-10-09 at 03:28:27
Everyone in my Address Book:
The following memo was circulated to all employees of DataProfit (my
employer). I'd consider it to be of great interest to all of us who
communicate via E-Mail!
For the time being, I'd recommend that you delete immediately *ANY* E-Mail
from a sender that you do not know!
I tend to delete SPAM or unidentified posts unopend. If most of you do the
same as a matter of course, we should all be okay - but pay close attention
to the incidious nature and multiple giuses of this virus.
I hope this is not as serious as it sounds, but I feel obligated to pass this
warning on... and suggest that you pass it on to everyone on your regular
mailing lists!
Attention WTFB members: I DO NOT have all WTFB members in my Address Book.
Jeff (or anyone), please pass this on to any WTFB'ers not addressed above.
I've looked up several WTFB addresses not in my address book and have
attempted to add them to this message. Those familiar with these addresses,
please look them over for accuracy. I'd like all WTFB'ers to get this.
Thank you,
Joe Torcivia.
(Test of memo circulated at DataProfit begins below...)
"Warning! If you receive an E-Mail titled "JOIN THE CREW", do not open it!
It will erase *EVERYTHING* on your hard drive! Send this letter out to as
many people as you can... this is a new virus and not many people know about
it!
This information was received this morning from IBM, please share it with
anyone thta might access the Internet.
Also, if anyone receives E-Mail entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS", please delete it
*WITHOUT* reading it! This is a warning for all internet users - there is a
dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through an E-Mail message
entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS".
Do not download any message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS"!
This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested
in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too late. The
"Trojan Horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector of your hard
drive, destroying all of the data present.
It is a self-replicating virus and, once the message is read, it will
AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone whose E-Mail address is present in
your mailbox!
This virus will destroy your hard drive, and holds the potential to destroy
the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your box, and whose mail is in
their box and so on.
If this virus keeps getting passed, it has the potential to do a great deal
of damage to computer networks worldwide.
Please delete the message "PENPAL GREETINGS" as soon as you see it. And pass
this message along to all of your friends, relatives and trhe other readers
of the newsgroups and mailing lists which your are on, so that they are not
hurt by this dangerous virus.
In addition, there is a NEW virus going around in the last couple of days.
Do not open - or even look at - any E-Mail that you get which says:
"RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVER".
This virus will attach itself to your computer components and render them
useless. Immediately delete any mail items with this heading."
(End of quoted memo)
I hope this is nothing to fear, but better to be warned!
(Joe)
The following memo was circulated to all employees of DataProfit (my
employer). I'd consider it to be of great interest to all of us who
communicate via E-Mail!
For the time being, I'd recommend that you delete immediately *ANY* E-Mail
from a sender that you do not know!
I tend to delete SPAM or unidentified posts unopend. If most of you do the
same as a matter of course, we should all be okay - but pay close attention
to the incidious nature and multiple giuses of this virus.
I hope this is not as serious as it sounds, but I feel obligated to pass this
warning on... and suggest that you pass it on to everyone on your regular
mailing lists!
Attention WTFB members: I DO NOT have all WTFB members in my Address Book.
Jeff (or anyone), please pass this on to any WTFB'ers not addressed above.
I've looked up several WTFB addresses not in my address book and have
attempted to add them to this message. Those familiar with these addresses,
please look them over for accuracy. I'd like all WTFB'ers to get this.
Thank you,
Joe Torcivia.
(Test of memo circulated at DataProfit begins below...)
"Warning! If you receive an E-Mail titled "JOIN THE CREW", do not open it!
It will erase *EVERYTHING* on your hard drive! Send this letter out to as
many people as you can... this is a new virus and not many people know about
it!
This information was received this morning from IBM, please share it with
anyone thta might access the Internet.
Also, if anyone receives E-Mail entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS", please delete it
*WITHOUT* reading it! This is a warning for all internet users - there is a
dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through an E-Mail message
entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS".
Do not download any message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS"!
This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you are interested
in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too late. The
"Trojan Horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector of your hard
drive, destroying all of the data present.
It is a self-replicating virus and, once the message is read, it will
AUTOMATICALLY forward itself to anyone whose E-Mail address is present in
your mailbox!
This virus will destroy your hard drive, and holds the potential to destroy
the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in your box, and whose mail is in
their box and so on.
If this virus keeps getting passed, it has the potential to do a great deal
of damage to computer networks worldwide.
Please delete the message "PENPAL GREETINGS" as soon as you see it. And pass
this message along to all of your friends, relatives and trhe other readers
of the newsgroups and mailing lists which your are on, so that they are not
hurt by this dangerous virus.
In addition, there is a NEW virus going around in the last couple of days.
Do not open - or even look at - any E-Mail that you get which says:
"RETURNED OR UNABLE TO DELIVER".
This virus will attach itself to your computer components and render them
useless. Immediately delete any mail items with this heading."
(End of quoted memo)
I hope this is nothing to fear, but better to be warned!
(Joe)
Ota
POLITICALLY UNCORRECT
Message 82 -
1997-10-09 at 05:02:45
David B. Fenske" <(Email removed)> wrote:
"As I see it, the political correctness movement stems from a broad
range of
narrow-interest groups who are linked by their dislike of our past
culture
and it's male-based power structure, and their dislike of traditional
Judeo-Christian ethics. It comes from *some* people who hold to a new
age
view of life, from the more radical feminists, and from those who hold
positions of power and who want to redress the complaints of all
oppressed
minority groups. While some of their goals are laudable, the end result
seems to be the imposition of a new tyranny on those who don't subscribe
to
the new view. Quite frankly, I view it as dangerous, just as dangerous
as
any threat from the more radical religious right."
Yes! I agree! Death to all politically correct dictators!!!! I want to
see "Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarfs" at Cartoon Network!!!!!!! But
some jerk banned this and other cartoons just because they are
considered politically uincorrect! Bleaaaargh!!!!!!
Long live carl Barks with all his politically uncorrect stuff!!!!! We
want to see the ducks with their wonderful adventures in foreign
underdevelopped countries! We want to see Dr. Benton Quest cheating the
pigmies!!!!! And mainly I want to watch Tex Avery's Uncle Tom's Cabin
because it's the only toon with that gorgeous Red I haven't managed to
see!!!!!!
(Email removed)
"As I see it, the political correctness movement stems from a broad
range of
narrow-interest groups who are linked by their dislike of our past
culture
and it's male-based power structure, and their dislike of traditional
Judeo-Christian ethics. It comes from *some* people who hold to a new
age
view of life, from the more radical feminists, and from those who hold
positions of power and who want to redress the complaints of all
oppressed
minority groups. While some of their goals are laudable, the end result
seems to be the imposition of a new tyranny on those who don't subscribe
to
the new view. Quite frankly, I view it as dangerous, just as dangerous
as
any threat from the more radical religious right."
Yes! I agree! Death to all politically correct dictators!!!! I want to
see "Coal Black and the Sebben Dwarfs" at Cartoon Network!!!!!!! But
some jerk banned this and other cartoons just because they are
considered politically uincorrect! Bleaaaargh!!!!!!
Long live carl Barks with all his politically uncorrect stuff!!!!! We
want to see the ducks with their wonderful adventures in foreign
underdevelopped countries! We want to see Dr. Benton Quest cheating the
pigmies!!!!! And mainly I want to watch Tex Avery's Uncle Tom's Cabin
because it's the only toon with that gorgeous Red I haven't managed to
see!!!!!!
(Email removed)
David B. Fenske
Incas Art and More!
Message 83 -
1997-10-09 at 09:38:43
1) Tarjei Kidd Olsen and Rik Pierce have been discussing the art of The
Secret of the Incas. That was one of the recent stories I took a good hard
look at in the comic shop before deciding "Naaa...." Actually, it didn't
take that long. I just don't like the style - it looks too childish,
amateurish, sloppy. I know I'm being critical but that's my reaction. And
I refuse to spend close to $3 for art I don't like. Regarding story -
there aren't many comic stories that can fly without decent supporting art
- there ain't many words in a comic, you can read one in 5 minutes. And
most of the stories are not that stunning as stories (except for some of
Barks and Don Rosa's).
Give me a long (full comic) story with good art and story, and I'll buy the
product. Or a couple of good shorter stories. But otherwise, sorry. When
they were $1.50 a book, I was less picky. But the rise in comic prices
over the past few years has made me much more selective - by necessity.
My Dad (who has never read a comic in his life) somehow was given a German
Uncle Scrooge (Onkle Dagobert??) magazine. I must say I wasn't that
impressed with the visual contents there either. But that was only one
issue.
2) The discussion about Super Snooper and On Stolen Time is interesting.
Those are two of my favourite short Rosa stories... SS had me chuckling and
snorting out loud (...give the boy a tip....OK, never wear radioactive
underwear.. It still kills me!). I quite enjoyed the Superman comic books
around the time of his death (though I haven't read them for the last few
years), and some of the Spiderman's of the same time, and have a large
number of DCs from my youth, but overall I don't like the genre now. So
the dialogue between the boys and Donald re Marvin Monkey books struck me
as quite amusing. On Stolen Time was very creative. And regarding Bark's
rip-off's, I don't feel that way at all. I like the stories Don does where
he continues an old Barks story. Adds to the continuity of the Disney
Universe, or something like that.
3) Cluttered Art Style. Don, whatever else you may do, don't declutter
your style. Your art is amazing. It's strange and wonderful to look at.
I keep thinking "how did he get all those little lines in there without
hurting himself?"
It's clear you're a really humble guy who doesn't appreciate his own
genius. OK, maybe genius is getting carried away a little... we'll reserve
that one for Einstein (relativity speaking), but anyways, you do have a big
big piece of the talent pie.
4) Donald M. and the other(s) re: Mickey Mouse Surprise Party. Yes, that's
it. I thought it was quite a good comic, and still enjoy it when I dig it
out every few years (my kids like to read my old ones every now and then).
Dave Fenske
Secret of the Incas. That was one of the recent stories I took a good hard
look at in the comic shop before deciding "Naaa...." Actually, it didn't
take that long. I just don't like the style - it looks too childish,
amateurish, sloppy. I know I'm being critical but that's my reaction. And
I refuse to spend close to $3 for art I don't like. Regarding story -
there aren't many comic stories that can fly without decent supporting art
- there ain't many words in a comic, you can read one in 5 minutes. And
most of the stories are not that stunning as stories (except for some of
Barks and Don Rosa's).
Give me a long (full comic) story with good art and story, and I'll buy the
product. Or a couple of good shorter stories. But otherwise, sorry. When
they were $1.50 a book, I was less picky. But the rise in comic prices
over the past few years has made me much more selective - by necessity.
My Dad (who has never read a comic in his life) somehow was given a German
Uncle Scrooge (Onkle Dagobert??) magazine. I must say I wasn't that
impressed with the visual contents there either. But that was only one
issue.
2) The discussion about Super Snooper and On Stolen Time is interesting.
Those are two of my favourite short Rosa stories... SS had me chuckling and
snorting out loud (...give the boy a tip....OK, never wear radioactive
underwear.. It still kills me!). I quite enjoyed the Superman comic books
around the time of his death (though I haven't read them for the last few
years), and some of the Spiderman's of the same time, and have a large
number of DCs from my youth, but overall I don't like the genre now. So
the dialogue between the boys and Donald re Marvin Monkey books struck me
as quite amusing. On Stolen Time was very creative. And regarding Bark's
rip-off's, I don't feel that way at all. I like the stories Don does where
he continues an old Barks story. Adds to the continuity of the Disney
Universe, or something like that.
3) Cluttered Art Style. Don, whatever else you may do, don't declutter
your style. Your art is amazing. It's strange and wonderful to look at.
I keep thinking "how did he get all those little lines in there without
hurting himself?"
It's clear you're a really humble guy who doesn't appreciate his own
genius. OK, maybe genius is getting carried away a little... we'll reserve
that one for Einstein (relativity speaking), but anyways, you do have a big
big piece of the talent pie.
4) Donald M. and the other(s) re: Mickey Mouse Surprise Party. Yes, that's
it. I thought it was quite a good comic, and still enjoy it when I dig it
out every few years (my kids like to read my old ones every now and then).
Dave Fenske
Ole R. Nielsen
Scandihoovian Lo$ prices
Message 84 -
1997-10-09 at 10:03:01
Per-Erik:
>The Swedish Hardcover book of LO$ will be released in the begining of
>november. The book has a NEW, beautiful cover, and it contains 272
>pages. The price is 195 kr (about 26 dollars ).
Apparently November 9.th is the official date in Denmark, although
Don isn't stopping by Copenhagen until the 18.th, and the weekly
had an ad last week saying the book was already out.
The Danish price is BTW DKr. 245, even if the value of a Swedish krone
today is only 88,64 of the Danish krone. So as a Dane I'm paying the
equivalent of US$10 _more_ for the same product.
Not that I'm complaining; it's still good value for money.
--Ole
>The Swedish Hardcover book of LO$ will be released in the begining of
>november. The book has a NEW, beautiful cover, and it contains 272
>pages. The price is 195 kr (about 26 dollars ).
Apparently November 9.th is the official date in Denmark, although
Don isn't stopping by Copenhagen until the 18.th, and the weekly
had an ad last week saying the book was already out.
The Danish price is BTW DKr. 245, even if the value of a Swedish krone
today is only 88,64 of the Danish krone. So as a Dane I'm paying the
equivalent of US$10 _more_ for the same product.
Not that I'm complaining; it's still good value for money.
--Ole
Kriton Kyrimis
Disney comics Digest V97 #218
Message 85 -
1997-10-09 at 10:25:48
DAVID B. FENSKE:
> Oh, I heartily disagree. I first saw Fantasia about 5 years ago, and
> didn't really enjoy it at all. I thought it was very uneven in quality,
> much of it quite boring, and the last part too dark and grimy, especially
> for younger kids.
Oddly enough, when I first saw Fantasia (I couldn't have been more than 10
years old), the last part (Mussorgsky's "Night on the Bare Mountain", BTW)
was the part I enjoyed most, especially the first half with the monsters on
the mountain--the second half, with the candle procession dispelling evil
didn't do much for me. The one who DIDN'T enjoy this was my father, who had
had a completely different image in his mind about the "story" being told by
the music. The part I enjoyed less was the Dance of the Hours bit (with the
hippos and crocodiles) with, surprisingly, the Sorcerer's Apprentice a close
second.
Like someone quoted on this list recently, de gustibus et coloribus non
disputandum.
RIK PIERCE:
> Now I'm trying to figure out just what it is about Rosa's ducks that
> bother me. I'm working on it...
I'd venture to say it's two things:
1. Don's ducks are drawn in a manner different to Barks. I suppose that this
is a left-over from the time when if it wasn't Barks, it wasn't good.
Shame on me and on anyone else who's bothered by this!
2. Although Scrooge is supposed to be drawn as Donald with whiskers and a
pince-nez (a Barks quote?), Don's Donald is not Scrooge *without*
the whiskers and the pince-nez, looking somehow clumsily drawn. I
suspect that this reflects Don's giving second billing to Donald
in many stories (which, I believe, is something to which he has
confessed), rather than his inability to draw the ducks, as I would
call Don's version of Scrooge the definitive one.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Selective retribution will bring any dissident to heel."
-----
> Oh, I heartily disagree. I first saw Fantasia about 5 years ago, and
> didn't really enjoy it at all. I thought it was very uneven in quality,
> much of it quite boring, and the last part too dark and grimy, especially
> for younger kids.
Oddly enough, when I first saw Fantasia (I couldn't have been more than 10
years old), the last part (Mussorgsky's "Night on the Bare Mountain", BTW)
was the part I enjoyed most, especially the first half with the monsters on
the mountain--the second half, with the candle procession dispelling evil
didn't do much for me. The one who DIDN'T enjoy this was my father, who had
had a completely different image in his mind about the "story" being told by
the music. The part I enjoyed less was the Dance of the Hours bit (with the
hippos and crocodiles) with, surprisingly, the Sorcerer's Apprentice a close
second.
Like someone quoted on this list recently, de gustibus et coloribus non
disputandum.
RIK PIERCE:
> Now I'm trying to figure out just what it is about Rosa's ducks that
> bother me. I'm working on it...
I'd venture to say it's two things:
1. Don's ducks are drawn in a manner different to Barks. I suppose that this
is a left-over from the time when if it wasn't Barks, it wasn't good.
Shame on me and on anyone else who's bothered by this!
2. Although Scrooge is supposed to be drawn as Donald with whiskers and a
pince-nez (a Barks quote?), Don's Donald is not Scrooge *without*
the whiskers and the pince-nez, looking somehow clumsily drawn. I
suspect that this reflects Don's giving second billing to Donald
in many stories (which, I believe, is something to which he has
confessed), rather than his inability to draw the ducks, as I would
call Don's version of Scrooge the definitive one.
--
Kriton (e-mail: (Email removed))
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis
-----
"Selective retribution will bring any dissident to heel."
-----
Fluks, H.W.
E-Mail Virus nonsense
Message 86 -
1997-10-09 at 12:04:12
Joe wrote:
>Everyone in my Address Book:
>I hope this is not as serious as it sounds, but I feel obligated to pass this
>warning on...
This IS a spam. You cannot get a virus by e-mail, unless:
- you open an attachment of an e-mail; or
- your e-mail program already contains a virus.
And even if this message were serious, the Disney comics mailing list
is not the right place to send it.
--Harry.
>
>Everyone in my Address Book:
>I hope this is not as serious as it sounds, but I feel obligated to pass this
>warning on...
This IS a spam. You cannot get a virus by e-mail, unless:
- you open an attachment of an e-mail; or
- your e-mail program already contains a virus.
And even if this message were serious, the Disney comics mailing list
is not the right place to send it.
--Harry.
>
Fluks, H.W.
Cavazzano
Message 87 -
1997-10-09 at 13:44:08
TARJEI:
>So his name is Cavazzano! Gary, would I be correct in saying you've never
>printed any stories by him before(I sure haven't seen any that I can think
>of)?
Gladstone printed one Cavazzano story before (though in a butchered
form),
in WD Giant #5.
--Harry.
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #219
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>So his name is Cavazzano! Gary, would I be correct in saying you've never
>printed any stories by him before(I sure haven't seen any that I can think
>of)?
Gladstone printed one Cavazzano story before (though in a butchered
form),
in WD Giant #5.
--Harry.
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End of Disney comics Digest V97 Issue #219
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ANTTI HYVARINEN
Where was he?
Message 88 -
1997-10-09 at 15:57:45
Hi everybody! Could someone tell me where Uncle $crooge was between
1914-1918 and 1939-1945?
1914-1918 and 1939-1945?
ANTTI HYVARINEN
Where was he?
Message 89 -
1997-10-09 at 15:57:45
Hi everybody! Could someone tell me where Uncle $crooge was between
1914-1918 and 1939-1945?
-Antti-
1914-1918 and 1939-1945?
-Antti-
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #218
Message 90 -
1997-10-09 at 16:35:28
MIKE S.: (who sez, regarding the new boxed-set of "Rosa Albums" from
Ehapa)...
> The box in which all the items are stored doesn't seem to be very
stable
> (or better: looks cheap!) and I was very disappointed when I saw the
print.
> Becuase of that layout you can't even frame it on the wall and even the
> paper that it is printed on doesn't look any special.
They sent me two of those sets last week, and the boxes on both were
completely destroyed during shipping. Yeah, I have to admit, those
slipcase-boxes are not
designed for permanence... they are definitely not like a Gladstone CBL
slipcase. But maybe that wasn't the idea? Maybe the boxes are just
packaging and supposed
to be thrown away?
But why didn't you like the print? Why can't you fold the gatefold pages
backwards (which won't damage it) and still frame the whole thing? Except
that... I guess that would hide my signature, eh?
> The coloring of the print is different from the one on the German Album
and
> a little bit nicer.
Yes, and it's not the same art! This is the cover that I did for the
Gladstone WALT DISNEY GIANT #1 ("Hearts of the Yukon")... and they
attempted to duplicate Susan's computer-coloring... and did an almost
perfect job of it, I'm astonished to see. In fact, I signed all 1100 of
those cards without ever noticing that they were NOT using Susan's
coloring, it was such a close match. I wish they'd color ALL the album
covers that carefully.
> I haven't seen any of the other Life of scrooge limited Editions, but i
> think it is quite save to say that this one maybe the most uninteresting
> of them.
I don't think they expected to match the quality of those hardbacks, do
you? But, just in case you're wondering, other than agreeing to sign those
cards, I had no involvement in the design or production of that set, so I
can't really answer any questions about the intent or materials used. I
don't even know what it sells for. Is it expensive? Are they also selling
the print separately? I would think that anyone who bought all the albums
when they were first on sale would want a print (if it's not too $$$), but
they would have to buy a duplicate set of the albums to get one, eh?
> DON:=20
> I guess you have seen both prints (from Ehapa and Gladstone).=20
> Are they similar in appearance or what are the differences.
Well, I am signing the Gladstone prints right NOW. Today! So I'll compare
the two:
First, both prints use the same art image, obviously. The Gladstone print
is slightly larger than the German print.
The German print is on slicker, shinier, stiffer paper. The Gladstone print
is on slightly thinner paper, but their paper is slightly whiter. But I
really don't know which is actually better paper -- I'd need to have a
scientist analyze them! I would guess that Gladstone is using higher
quality paper... but that's only a safe assumption based on the fact that
they have been doing quality prints for over a decade.
The coloring of both is virtually identical! The coloring on the German
print is slightly brighter, probably only because the Gladstone print is
trying more to show that the scene is under a midnight sun. The big
difference is that the Gladstone print gets fancy with the background,
lifting my black lines off the mountains and the Aurora Borealis, and
printing those parts only with color. And their Aurora is BEAUTIFUL when
done this way, all hazy and fuzzy! So, the coloring of the main characters
on the two prints is equally good, but the coloring of the background on
the Gladstone print is far superior. (The stars are different on both
prints, but they are done extremely well on both. John Clark told me they
actually duplicated a Yukon night sky, and the German print even tries to
duplicate the exact placement of all the stars in the Gladstone version!
That's quite a job in both cases!)
On the German print, if you frame it, you won't see my signature since that
appears on a different page of the gatefold design. The Gladstone print
will have my signature on its lower right, in pencil (that's a new one for
me)... and in the lower left will be Susan ("the colorist") Daigle-Leach's
signature, as well it should be!!! She should have her signature on the
German print, too, since they copied her coloring... or she should at least
share the German coloring credits with whoever did such a good job copying.
Uh.... is that as complete a comparison as I can make? What'd I miss? I
know... I've already gone 75% too far, eh?
Ehapa)...
> The box in which all the items are stored doesn't seem to be very
stable
> (or better: looks cheap!) and I was very disappointed when I saw the
print.
> Becuase of that layout you can't even frame it on the wall and even the
> paper that it is printed on doesn't look any special.
They sent me two of those sets last week, and the boxes on both were
completely destroyed during shipping. Yeah, I have to admit, those
slipcase-boxes are not
designed for permanence... they are definitely not like a Gladstone CBL
slipcase. But maybe that wasn't the idea? Maybe the boxes are just
packaging and supposed
to be thrown away?
But why didn't you like the print? Why can't you fold the gatefold pages
backwards (which won't damage it) and still frame the whole thing? Except
that... I guess that would hide my signature, eh?
> The coloring of the print is different from the one on the German Album
and
> a little bit nicer.
Yes, and it's not the same art! This is the cover that I did for the
Gladstone WALT DISNEY GIANT #1 ("Hearts of the Yukon")... and they
attempted to duplicate Susan's computer-coloring... and did an almost
perfect job of it, I'm astonished to see. In fact, I signed all 1100 of
those cards without ever noticing that they were NOT using Susan's
coloring, it was such a close match. I wish they'd color ALL the album
covers that carefully.
> I haven't seen any of the other Life of scrooge limited Editions, but i
> think it is quite save to say that this one maybe the most uninteresting
> of them.
I don't think they expected to match the quality of those hardbacks, do
you? But, just in case you're wondering, other than agreeing to sign those
cards, I had no involvement in the design or production of that set, so I
can't really answer any questions about the intent or materials used. I
don't even know what it sells for. Is it expensive? Are they also selling
the print separately? I would think that anyone who bought all the albums
when they were first on sale would want a print (if it's not too $$$), but
they would have to buy a duplicate set of the albums to get one, eh?
> DON:=20
> I guess you have seen both prints (from Ehapa and Gladstone).=20
> Are they similar in appearance or what are the differences.
Well, I am signing the Gladstone prints right NOW. Today! So I'll compare
the two:
First, both prints use the same art image, obviously. The Gladstone print
is slightly larger than the German print.
The German print is on slicker, shinier, stiffer paper. The Gladstone print
is on slightly thinner paper, but their paper is slightly whiter. But I
really don't know which is actually better paper -- I'd need to have a
scientist analyze them! I would guess that Gladstone is using higher
quality paper... but that's only a safe assumption based on the fact that
they have been doing quality prints for over a decade.
The coloring of both is virtually identical! The coloring on the German
print is slightly brighter, probably only because the Gladstone print is
trying more to show that the scene is under a midnight sun. The big
difference is that the Gladstone print gets fancy with the background,
lifting my black lines off the mountains and the Aurora Borealis, and
printing those parts only with color. And their Aurora is BEAUTIFUL when
done this way, all hazy and fuzzy! So, the coloring of the main characters
on the two prints is equally good, but the coloring of the background on
the Gladstone print is far superior. (The stars are different on both
prints, but they are done extremely well on both. John Clark told me they
actually duplicated a Yukon night sky, and the German print even tries to
duplicate the exact placement of all the stars in the Gladstone version!
That's quite a job in both cases!)
On the German print, if you frame it, you won't see my signature since that
appears on a different page of the gatefold design. The Gladstone print
will have my signature on its lower right, in pencil (that's a new one for
me)... and in the lower left will be Susan ("the colorist") Daigle-Leach's
signature, as well it should be!!! She should have her signature on the
German print, too, since they copied her coloring... or she should at least
share the German coloring credits with whoever did such a good job copying.
Uh.... is that as complete a comparison as I can make? What'd I miss? I
know... I've already gone 75% too far, eh?