Hello!
After some time I delurk again.
Only few will recognize me but I'm a few years on this list.
I ve now finished indexing my small collection of comics for the DcD and
still there are big gaps.
But now I only delurk to add my two cents:
DD-dailies in Gladstones DD:
Not everyone like the DD-dailies in Donald Duck but I have to say that I
appreciate them most of them I find funny and Al Taliaferro deserve his
slot in the current production line. He was one of the best artists for
Donald Duck and Bob Karp was one of the best gag-writers.
If it weren't for their presentation in Gladstones Donald Duck I've never
seen many of the dailies.
Here in Germany the dailies were presented only scarcely in the different
comics until a few years ago Ehapa started to publish them
chronologically in "Donald Duck Sonderheft (Die tollsten Geschichten)"
(to be precise no. 105) first in b/w later in color, but only four
dailies each issue. So the progress is very slow.
Now Ehapa publishes the dailies in "Walt Disney's Lustiges Taschenbuch",
too, chronologically from 1941 on. In every issue ca. 30 dailies are
presented in color.
Ok, I admit I'm a collector and I want to have every story published,
but I not only want the dailies for my collection but for the quality,
too, and I like to get them in their original language, too.
Crossovers:
Like others on this List I'm not very fond of crossovers in
disney-comics, but more for the uninspirated stories or interaction of
the characters not for the crossovers. If a crossover in a story work why
shouldn't it happen? It's just a story and it should entertain the reader.
Like David I say that the Song of the South-cast and Li'l Bad Wolf-cast
interact perfectly well although you rarely see Br'er Rabbit and Li'l Bad
Wolf together (I just can't think of one instance), but that could be the
problem of both being main characters in their stories. That I think is
the biggest problem of crossovers that different main actors seldom can
interact in one story very well but the minor characters with their
simpler charcterization can often act in other stories well.
If it weren't for crossovers I think that Donald Duck for example has
never had such a success. Ok, I'm going here into animation, but Donald
Duck first appeared in "The Wise Little Hen" and then crosses over to the
MM-films starting with "Band Concert" and finally got his own series.
The same way he went in the dailies.
So if a crossover could work why should'nt it happen.
Back to lurking
-- Gilbert
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Gilbert Roser A Disney Maniac
TUBerlin
Germany
(Email removed)
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Author
Topic: 199710
(359 messages)
Gilbert Roser
DD-dailies and Crossovers
Message 16 -
1997-10-02 at 14:36:20
DeanMary
An introduction and 3 questions
Message 17 -
1997-10-02 at 21:00:06
Hi! I am delurking after being a member of the mailing list for about a
month. My name is Dean Rekich and I and 30 years old. I live in West
Virginia and have been collecting Disney comics for well over 10 years.
Actually, my dad got me started on the great works of Carl Barks when I
was just a kid. He would buy them for himself and then let me read
them! :)
I then didn't really start collecting Disney comics again until
Gladstone's first run in the 1980's. I really love reading the mailing
list and am
learning more about Disney comics all the time. I have 3 different
questions for members on the list.
1. I find myself in the same position David Fenske wrote about a
few digests back. I know that Carl Barks doesn't particulary like Don
Rosa
and/or his stories but don't know why. I am sorry if I am bringing up
old
issues but as a new member I know nothing about this. If someone could
just tell me a short summary I would appreciate it. It just seems so
sad when Don obviously loves Barks' work yet Barks seems to give Don no
respect.
2. Would anyone on the list know how I could get a back issue of
the French magazine Piscou #300? It had a few nice drawings by Don and
I'd
really love to get a hold of an issue. If some one could tell me the
address of the magazine and how much this back issue would cost I would
very much appreciate it.
3. Is Gladstone in anyways considering collecting the Taliaferro
Donald Duck strips into a book or album? I vaguely recall Gladstone
considering doing this in their first run but deciding not to because
they would not be able to print some of the strips due to censorship on
the part
of Disney. While of course it would be great to have all of them, some
would be better than not at all. Just an idea.
Well, that is all for my first "delurking". Thanks again for the
help with my questions and for such a wonderful mailing list.
Dean Rekich
(Email removed)
month. My name is Dean Rekich and I and 30 years old. I live in West
Virginia and have been collecting Disney comics for well over 10 years.
Actually, my dad got me started on the great works of Carl Barks when I
was just a kid. He would buy them for himself and then let me read
them! :)
I then didn't really start collecting Disney comics again until
Gladstone's first run in the 1980's. I really love reading the mailing
list and am
learning more about Disney comics all the time. I have 3 different
questions for members on the list.
1. I find myself in the same position David Fenske wrote about a
few digests back. I know that Carl Barks doesn't particulary like Don
Rosa
and/or his stories but don't know why. I am sorry if I am bringing up
old
issues but as a new member I know nothing about this. If someone could
just tell me a short summary I would appreciate it. It just seems so
sad when Don obviously loves Barks' work yet Barks seems to give Don no
respect.
2. Would anyone on the list know how I could get a back issue of
the French magazine Piscou #300? It had a few nice drawings by Don and
I'd
really love to get a hold of an issue. If some one could tell me the
address of the magazine and how much this back issue would cost I would
very much appreciate it.
3. Is Gladstone in anyways considering collecting the Taliaferro
Donald Duck strips into a book or album? I vaguely recall Gladstone
considering doing this in their first run but deciding not to because
they would not be able to print some of the strips due to censorship on
the part
of Disney. While of course it would be great to have all of them, some
would be better than not at all. Just an idea.
Well, that is all for my first "delurking". Thanks again for the
help with my questions and for such a wonderful mailing list.
Dean Rekich
(Email removed)
Jakob Soederbaum
Disney comics Digest V97 #173
Message 18 -
1997-10-02 at 23:51:45
GEORGE DIAMANTOPOULOS:
Welcome to te list! As far as I know you're the absolut *youngest* person
*ever* to join this list (I may be wrong, of course)! It's always nice to
see youngsters here (they're sorta a minority).
> Komix (Comics) is an old magazine too... (His first volume was
> printed around 1986-1987.
And "old" magazine, eh? ;-) I hope Don missed this part, it'd have given
him cold shivers all over. ;-)
> NEXT subject: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!
:-0
> I want to ask some questions for the site and the emailing list.
> 1)Can I add attachments on my email?For example a scanned picture I
> scanned from a magazine in GIF format
Never do this when you're on a mailinglist, my friend.
> 3)Can You See Colours????????????????? They help a lot in underlining
> some words...
Don't ever send anything *except* ASCII-text (what you're just writing) to
a public list. Use stars like *this* instead of underlining.
> My biggest
> dream is to cooperate with a Disney comics magazine. I was thinking to
> write an article in KOMIX about comics on the WWW but there aren't many
> sites about this on the WWW in english and i don't think they'll accept
> my work..
I'd say there's *quite* enough info in English around the WWW. It's just
that you need to know where to look. Step one is to take a look at the
Disney Comics Database.
CHRISTOPHER:
> I personally refer in shorthand to Don's "Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge"
> series as "LATOSM" (pronounced "lah-tos-em").
I think the most common abbreviation is Lo$.
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Welcome to te list! As far as I know you're the absolut *youngest* person
*ever* to join this list (I may be wrong, of course)! It's always nice to
see youngsters here (they're sorta a minority).
> Komix (Comics) is an old magazine too... (His first volume was
> printed around 1986-1987.
And "old" magazine, eh? ;-) I hope Don missed this part, it'd have given
him cold shivers all over. ;-)
> NEXT subject: HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!
:-0
> I want to ask some questions for the site and the emailing list.
> 1)Can I add attachments on my email?For example a scanned picture I
> scanned from a magazine in GIF format
Never do this when you're on a mailinglist, my friend.
> 3)Can You See Colours????????????????? They help a lot in underlining
> some words...
Don't ever send anything *except* ASCII-text (what you're just writing) to
a public list. Use stars like *this* instead of underlining.
> My biggest
> dream is to cooperate with a Disney comics magazine. I was thinking to
> write an article in KOMIX about comics on the WWW but there aren't many
> sites about this on the WWW in english and i don't think they'll accept
> my work..
I'd say there's *quite* enough info in English around the WWW. It's just
that you need to know where to look. Step one is to take a look at the
Disney Comics Database.
CHRISTOPHER:
> I personally refer in shorthand to Don's "Life and Times of Uncle Scrooge"
> series as "LATOSM" (pronounced "lah-tos-em").
I think the most common abbreviation is Lo$.
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Tarjei Kidd Olsen
Disney comics Digest V97 #213
Message 19 -
1997-10-03 at 00:31:05
DAVID:
>If someone wrote in complaining of
>sexist stereotyping, would that person be labeled a fanatic?
Well, that depends on whether or not the accusation is valid.
>What about
>Disney studios themselves - they apparently censor much of their older
>material, thereby keeping us all from reading it - are they fanatics?
Well, censorship is pointless as far as I'm concerned anyway. They're not
"fanatics", they're "stupid" ;-)
>In other words, I think it's fine to disagree strongly with another persons
>views, and state clearly why you do, but I think we should avoid negative
>labelling of the people who hold them.
True enough...
EVERYONE:
On the back of the latest norwegian DD comic (Donald Duck & Co #41) there is
an advertisement for the Huey, Dewey and Louie anniversary story from Don
Rosa, which will appear in next weeks Donald Duck(the back cover of the
comic is always used to advertise the stories coming in the next #). At the
bottom right hand side of the page there is this announcement: "A completely
new extra issue (A ONE-OFF FREE ADDITION COMIC -TARJEI) in honour of the
boys! With a newly drawn Barks story!"
Could someone tell me more?????
|| <<<<Tarjei Kidd Olsen>>>> ||
||___________________________||
|| http://home.sol.no/~kidd/ ||
|| (Email removed) ||
>If someone wrote in complaining of
>sexist stereotyping, would that person be labeled a fanatic?
Well, that depends on whether or not the accusation is valid.
>What about
>Disney studios themselves - they apparently censor much of their older
>material, thereby keeping us all from reading it - are they fanatics?
Well, censorship is pointless as far as I'm concerned anyway. They're not
"fanatics", they're "stupid" ;-)
>In other words, I think it's fine to disagree strongly with another persons
>views, and state clearly why you do, but I think we should avoid negative
>labelling of the people who hold them.
True enough...
EVERYONE:
On the back of the latest norwegian DD comic (Donald Duck & Co #41) there is
an advertisement for the Huey, Dewey and Louie anniversary story from Don
Rosa, which will appear in next weeks Donald Duck(the back cover of the
comic is always used to advertise the stories coming in the next #). At the
bottom right hand side of the page there is this announcement: "A completely
new extra issue (A ONE-OFF FREE ADDITION COMIC -TARJEI) in honour of the
boys! With a newly drawn Barks story!"
Could someone tell me more?????
|| <<<<Tarjei Kidd Olsen>>>> ||
||___________________________||
|| http://home.sol.no/~kidd/ ||
|| (Email removed) ||
Crowt
Don Rosa Interview
Message 20 -
1997-10-03 at 07:09:07
I just wanted to inform everyone that Tibby's Bowl Entertainment
Magazine is re-running our interview with Don Rosa. You can find it in
the Books section at:
www.tibbysbowl.com
Hasta!
-Ken Plume
Magazine is re-running our interview with Don Rosa. You can find it in
the Books section at:
www.tibbysbowl.com
Hasta!
-Ken Plume
Don Rosa
Disney comics Digest V97 #212
Message 21 -
1997-10-03 at 09:00:53
>I'm still at the stage where I don't like "Don's
> 'cluttered' art style"
> ------------
> Rik in Carlisle, MA
Same here.
> 'cluttered' art style"
> ------------
> Rik in Carlisle, MA
Same here.
Fluks, H.W.
Norwegian JW extra
Message 22 -
1997-10-03 at 12:26:30
TARJEI:
>"A completely new extra issue in honour of the
>boys! With a newly drawn Barks story!"
>Could someone tell me more?????
This is most likely one of Barks' Junior Woodchucks stories that was
redrawn by Daan Jippes. The Scandinavians have announced these
stories as "new Barks" before.
--Harry.
>"A completely new extra issue in honour of the
>boys! With a newly drawn Barks story!"
>Could someone tell me more?????
This is most likely one of Barks' Junior Woodchucks stories that was
redrawn by Daan Jippes. The Scandinavians have announced these
stories as "new Barks" before.
--Harry.
Augie De Blieck Jr.
Don Rosa Bi-Monthly
Message 23 -
1997-10-03 at 12:30:38
GARY:
> >..Rosa doesn't do enough material for a regularly-published comic
> >to contain it and it alone.
>
> That sez it right there, folks.
True, but if you go back and reprint everything he's already done, and then
start adding in his new stuff as you go along... You could probably make it
last a three or four years or more. =)
The trick, of course, is getting people to buy the same material they just
bought in the $7 WDC&S or the $10 and $11 Don Rosa albums.
Oh, and while I'm here:
BYRON:
Great news. Congratulations on the credits!
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. - (Email removed) - (Email removed)
"Egg whites are good for a lot of things; lemon merangue pie, angel
food cake, and clogging up radiators." -MacGyver (Bushmaster)
> >..Rosa doesn't do enough material for a regularly-published comic
> >to contain it and it alone.
>
> That sez it right there, folks.
True, but if you go back and reprint everything he's already done, and then
start adding in his new stuff as you go along... You could probably make it
last a three or four years or more. =)
The trick, of course, is getting people to buy the same material they just
bought in the $7 WDC&S or the $10 and $11 Don Rosa albums.
Oh, and while I'm here:
BYRON:
Great news. Congratulations on the credits!
-Augie
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Augie De Blieck Jr. - (Email removed) - (Email removed)
"Egg whites are good for a lot of things; lemon merangue pie, angel
food cake, and clogging up radiators." -MacGyver (Bushmaster)
Germund Silvegren
Some information... anyone?
Message 24 -
1997-10-03 at 20:49:15
Hi out there!
I've more or less promised to write two articles for our Swedish
Donaldistic fanzine NAFS(k)uriren so I could need some help with further
information. I wonder if anyone knows anything special about the following
topics (or know any sources of interesting material):
The "Air Pirates Funnies" underground books from 1971. Any information
about them, interviews, related pictures, legal consequences etc.
The three "Mickey Mouse - Super Secret Agent" stories in MM 107-109 (1966).
Why they were made, any comments from involved authors/artists etc.
Help would be deeply appreciated.
Hoping..... /Germund
I've more or less promised to write two articles for our Swedish
Donaldistic fanzine NAFS(k)uriren so I could need some help with further
information. I wonder if anyone knows anything special about the following
topics (or know any sources of interesting material):
The "Air Pirates Funnies" underground books from 1971. Any information
about them, interviews, related pictures, legal consequences etc.
The three "Mickey Mouse - Super Secret Agent" stories in MM 107-109 (1966).
Why they were made, any comments from involved authors/artists etc.
Help would be deeply appreciated.
Hoping..... /Germund
Vidar Svendsen
Fundamentalism and memory et alia
Message 25 -
1997-10-03 at 22:13:20
Don M. wrote:
>
> A fundamentalist is a person who<snip>
> Let's just say it's a religious
>> fanatic.)
Gary wrote:
>To clarify this a bit, and take any heat thereby, <snip>
>Gary
I didn't ask to have an off-topic debate about the use
of the term "fundamentalism" on the list.
I've answered Don M. in private mail.
Christopher E. Barat wrote:
>Heck, last fall, when I went into a D-Store to see if
>there was any QUACK PACK merchandise,
>the manager had never heard of the series
This isn't to bad is it? I'd wish I'd never heard of
Quack Pack
Harry wrote:
>>GENERAL RESPONDENTS' COMMENTS:
>>"One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say 'I
>>don't remember'"
>And now we have to guess who wrote this comment? 8-)
well....
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Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
"I don't remember"
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>
> A fundamentalist is a person who<snip>
> Let's just say it's a religious
>> fanatic.)
Gary wrote:
>To clarify this a bit, and take any heat thereby, <snip>
>Gary
I didn't ask to have an off-topic debate about the use
of the term "fundamentalism" on the list.
I've answered Don M. in private mail.
Christopher E. Barat wrote:
>Heck, last fall, when I went into a D-Store to see if
>there was any QUACK PACK merchandise,
>the manager had never heard of the series
This isn't to bad is it? I'd wish I'd never heard of
Quack Pack
Harry wrote:
>>GENERAL RESPONDENTS' COMMENTS:
>>"One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say 'I
>>don't remember'"
>And now we have to guess who wrote this comment? 8-)
well....
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Vidar Svendsen http://home.sol.no/vsvends
One good thing about getting old is that people believe you when you say
"I don't remember"
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Dominik
Don Rosa in Germany
Message 26 -
1997-10-03 at 22:53:00
HI,
anybody interested in meeting in Karlsruhe in October (30.10.97)
to see Don Rosa? As you all probably know he will be at Comic Porwer
at 11 am till 1 pm
and at Terminal Entertainment from 4 pm to 6pm
So, hope to see some of you!!
Dominik Altevogt
Keltenring 190
79199 Kirchzarten
(Email removed)
anybody interested in meeting in Karlsruhe in October (30.10.97)
to see Don Rosa? As you all probably know he will be at Comic Porwer
at 11 am till 1 pm
and at Terminal Entertainment from 4 pm to 6pm
So, hope to see some of you!!
Dominik Altevogt
Keltenring 190
79199 Kirchzarten
(Email removed)
David Gerstein
Disney comics Digest V97 #213
Message 27 -
1997-10-03 at 23:22:57
GILBERT:
> Like David I say that the Song of the South-cast and Li'l Bad Wolf-cast
> interact perfectly well although you rarely see Br'er Rabbit and Li'l Bad
> Wolf together (I just can't think of one instance)
Actually, WDC&S 616 just reprinted one such story (it's from WDC&S
145). Two others appear in LI'L BAD WOLF Four Color 473 (which I have here
and just glanced at for reference)... I can also think of some Dutch
stories that pair them. WDC&S 616, in particular, is the first time in
quite some while that Gladstone has printed *any* story with an appearance
from Br'er Rabbit. I hope to see more. (I know we'll get at least one
more Br'er *Bear* appearance soon, as Gladstone had me rewrite a Dutch Li'l
Wolf that included him.)
David Gerstein
"Four clangs mean it's time for my lesson on how to be a mean, bad,
and untruthful wolf!" -- Li'l Wolf, OS 473
<(Email removed)>
> Like David I say that the Song of the South-cast and Li'l Bad Wolf-cast
> interact perfectly well although you rarely see Br'er Rabbit and Li'l Bad
> Wolf together (I just can't think of one instance)
Actually, WDC&S 616 just reprinted one such story (it's from WDC&S
145). Two others appear in LI'L BAD WOLF Four Color 473 (which I have here
and just glanced at for reference)... I can also think of some Dutch
stories that pair them. WDC&S 616, in particular, is the first time in
quite some while that Gladstone has printed *any* story with an appearance
from Br'er Rabbit. I hope to see more. (I know we'll get at least one
more Br'er *Bear* appearance soon, as Gladstone had me rewrite a Dutch Li'l
Wolf that included him.)
David Gerstein
"Four clangs mean it's time for my lesson on how to be a mean, bad,
and untruthful wolf!" -- Li'l Wolf, OS 473
<(Email removed)>
SRoweCanoe
Air Pirates and Secret Agent
Message 28 -
1997-10-04 at 04:35:10
In a message dated 97-10-03 15:14:34 EDT, you write:
<< he "Air Pirates Funnies" underground books from 1971. Any information
about them, interviews, related pictures, legal consequences etc.
The three "Mickey Mouse - Super Secret Agent" stories in MM 107-109 (1966).
Why they were made, any comments from involved authors/artists etc.
Help would be deeply appreciated.
Hoping..... /Germund >>
Both of these questions have been answered before (although not recently), Is
there a FAQ?
The Air Pirates (let's see Dan O'Neill, Gary Hallgren, Boby London, Shary
Flenniken, Gary King?) were proof positive that drugs affect your abstract
resoning ability. And hey I still need the MLF communiques... Interviews in
Graphic Story World (I think), nd Comics Journal
The Secret Agent stories were written by Don Christensen (still alive) and
drawn by Paul Murry and Dan Spiegle (still alive). Nnot sure if Del Connell
was editor. Interview, maybe in Duckburg Times?
Steven Rowe
<< he "Air Pirates Funnies" underground books from 1971. Any information
about them, interviews, related pictures, legal consequences etc.
The three "Mickey Mouse - Super Secret Agent" stories in MM 107-109 (1966).
Why they were made, any comments from involved authors/artists etc.
Help would be deeply appreciated.
Hoping..... /Germund >>
Both of these questions have been answered before (although not recently), Is
there a FAQ?
The Air Pirates (let's see Dan O'Neill, Gary Hallgren, Boby London, Shary
Flenniken, Gary King?) were proof positive that drugs affect your abstract
resoning ability. And hey I still need the MLF communiques... Interviews in
Graphic Story World (I think), nd Comics Journal
The Secret Agent stories were written by Don Christensen (still alive) and
drawn by Paul Murry and Dan Spiegle (still alive). Nnot sure if Del Connell
was editor. Interview, maybe in Duckburg Times?
Steven Rowe
Dave Rawson
Don's art style
Message 29 -
1997-10-04 at 06:29:25
"Don Rosa" <(Email removed)>:
>> I'm still at the stage where I don't like "Don's 'cluttered' art
>> style [...] Rik in Carlisle, MA
>
> Same here.
You nearly had me doing a classic spit take this was so droll.
One of the things I *like* about your story telling is the extra stuff
going on in the background and such, like Barks in the Gyro stories. Or
do you (or Rik for that matter) mean something else by "cluttered"? It
seems to me if an artist is clear in their storytelling and they are
funny, what's to complain? Everything else is idiosyncratic; the very
uniqueness that determines personal, recognizable style.
Seriously, what would you change about your art if you could?
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
>> I'm still at the stage where I don't like "Don's 'cluttered' art
>> style [...] Rik in Carlisle, MA
>
> Same here.
You nearly had me doing a classic spit take this was so droll.
One of the things I *like* about your story telling is the extra stuff
going on in the background and such, like Barks in the Gyro stories. Or
do you (or Rik for that matter) mean something else by "cluttered"? It
seems to me if an artist is clear in their storytelling and they are
funny, what's to complain? Everything else is idiosyncratic; the very
uniqueness that determines personal, recognizable style.
Seriously, what would you change about your art if you could?
--
riverrun past Eve's and Adam's from swerve of shore to bend of bay
(Email removed) -=*=- http://users.aol.com/dcrawson/home.htm
JTorci3511
Disney Comics Character Index: Moby Duck.
Message 30 -
1997-10-04 at 07:28:41
I finally took a much overdue look at the Disney Comics Character Index - and
looked with particular interest at the entries for MOBY DUCK, PORPY and
DIMWITTY, as I believe I'd contributed much of that information to Jonathan
Markoff in the past.
It is that same information (I'll assume) which found itself here!
Anyway, I'd like to offer a correction to the information under MOBY DUCK.
It says that DONALD DUCK #112 (Moby's first appearance) "A Whale of an
Adventure" was written by Mark Evanier. No... it was, in fact, written by
Vic Lockman. If that information had originally come from me, it was
evidently mis-transcribed.
Please make the necessary corrections.
Thank you,
Joe Torcivia.
looked with particular interest at the entries for MOBY DUCK, PORPY and
DIMWITTY, as I believe I'd contributed much of that information to Jonathan
Markoff in the past.
It is that same information (I'll assume) which found itself here!
Anyway, I'd like to offer a correction to the information under MOBY DUCK.
It says that DONALD DUCK #112 (Moby's first appearance) "A Whale of an
Adventure" was written by Mark Evanier. No... it was, in fact, written by
Vic Lockman. If that information had originally come from me, it was
evidently mis-transcribed.
Please make the necessary corrections.
Thank you,
Joe Torcivia.