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Daniel Van Eijmeren
I am working on a Carl Barks webpage and for the chapter "Retirement
years" I would like to have this article checked by people who've attended
Barks' 96th birthday celebration. Corrections and additions are very
welcome!

[Information is taken from e-mails by Wilmer Rivers, 19 February 1997 and
Harald Havas, 30 April 1997.]

BTW. Can someone send me a scan of the "Barks' Treasury"-book? Scans of
some of the drawings and of photo's of the celebration would also be very
welcome (I want to use them as illustrations for this article and the
bibliography-page).

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On Saturday April 12, 1997, Barks 96th birthday was celebrated with a
banquet at the California Grill at Disney's Contemporary Resort. Life-
sized figures of some Duck and DuckTales characters attended and there was
a special Scrooge cake and lots of good stuff. There also were some
special custom made Disney items on exhibition, like Donald carved in a
flat piece of glass illuminated from below...

The evening included an exclusive gallery featuring a selection of works
by Carl Barks and a gourmet dinner. Premiering was a collection of
75 original colored drawings created by Carl Barks especially for this
event, a limited edition serigraph honoring 50 years of Scrooge McDuck
titled, "I May Have To Spend Some of This Stuff", and a variety of other
pieces by Carl Barks. 75 pieces of new Barks drawings (colour-pencils)
were exhibited, on which Barks has worked non-stop for six months for his
96th birthday event. The drawings mostly had scenes from old stories and
single new jokes like in a daily cartoon, featuring all his characters.

The art was sold by Disney [not by the Barks Studio?, DvE] with a price
range that included pieces in four range categories: $1500 - $3000 - $5000
- $7000. Everybody got a numbered coin he/she could put in a box besides
the pictures if he/she wanted to buy it. If more than one coin was
found, chance decided who got it (no bidding).

In addition, many of these works were commemorated in a hardback book
called "Barks' Treasury" (price $250), limited to an edition of 1000. This
book contains a high-class reproduction of 40 drawings, together with a
five-language description. It was presented in a nice box resembling a
safe, filled with shredded Duck-Dollars (with a Barks portrait on them).

The next day, a selection of fans, old friends and foreign visitors had
brunch with Barks in his suite in the (restricted) top floor of the hotel.
In the afternoon Barks was driven, escorted by a marching band, in an open
cabriolet to the "Chinese Theater"-copy at the MGM-Studio. On his car it
said "Carl Barks - Disney legend" an official title he is allowed to carry
since 1991. Beside him sat his 50 year old son... In front of the theater
he signed and put his palms into concrete to be put up there for posterity.
A bunch of journalists attended, but no TV-crew... Tourists cheered, mostly
not knowing who this man was. (In Europe this would have been top-news on
all channels...)

Barks looked good, walked with a stick but could do without, he was well-
mannered as always and chatted jokingly with everybody.

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Greetings,

--- Daniel
Daniel Van Eijmeren
According to the Carl Barks Library, the article "The Legacy of Al
Taliaferro" was published in Walt Disney Comics and Stories 522
(September 1987).

Is there someone willing to make readable scans of this article for me?
I want to use parts of it for the Barks webpage I'm working on.

Greetings,

--- Daniel
Deckerd
On Oct 26, 6:41pm, Kriton Kyrimis wrote:

> > Can't resist sidetracking here for a moment, to reveal the well known fact
> > that Dupond & Dupont can be identified by their different moustaches
> (Dupond's
> > is D-shaped), and the less well-known fact, that it is always the same one
> > (Dupont?) driving their car.
>
> Would you believe that until now I had never noticed? Dupond's mustache
> is, indeed, D-shaped, as opposed to Dupont's bell-shaped one, but the
> difference is very subtle--just a few extra hairs!

Wow! I never noticed either! But I just yanked out my copy of
Objectif Lune, and -- you're right! One mustache curves in and
the other curves out! I never noticed before! Gosh!

--Dwight Decker
Nils Lid Hjort
Ole R. Nielsen tells us about "Egmont Rossija". Can you give us a litte bit
more information? You seem to subscribe; how? I have so far during my several
Russia travels never seen Barks or Rosa in Russian...

<<Halloween is "kanun dnja vsech svjatych", i.e. "All Hallows Eve" I think.>>
"Kanun dlya vsech svyatuch" would be, more or less, "Eve for all saints".
(Savtra utro ya poedu v Moskvu, na konferents nauk!)

The "Rosa steals from Strobl" thing has been discussed a couple of times on
this list already, the last time in May 1996 (according to the little log I
keep on my own contributions).

Nils Lid Hjort

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Nils Lid Hjort
The list has among other things been discussing _prunes_ lately.
David Gerstein said, in this connection:
<< THE PRUNE DEBATE:
I love the notion of a Beagle Boy liking prunes simply because
prunes are an intrinsically funny fruit. They look funny and the name
sounds funny (luckily, for all that, they taste good ;-) ). >>

I was reminded of a splendid little essay by celebrated philosopher and
prolific writer Bertrand Russell from the mid 1930-ies, called
"`useless' knowledge". He attacks beautifully the simplistic notion that
all the things we need to learn in school and so on must be `immediately
useful'; we need all the other stuff too! This list surely knows that --
filling itself to the brim with... well, not-so-immediately-useful knowledge.
Russell's praise of `useless' knowledge will feel relevant to all readers of
this maillist, and is recommended reading!

The little Russell paragraph that came to mind in connection with Gerstein's
and the other prune contributions is as follows:

<<Curious learning not only makes unpleasant things less unpleasant, but also
makes pleasant things more pleasant. I have enjoyed peaches and apricots more
since I have known that they were first cultivated in China in the early days
of the Han dynasti; that Chinese hostages held by the great King Kaniska
introduced them into India, whence they spread to Persia, reaching the Roman
Empire in the first century of our era; that the word "apricot" is derived from
the same Latin source as the word "precocious", because the apricot ripens
early; and the A at the beginning was added by mistake, owing to a false
etymology. All this makes the fruit taste much sweeter.>>

Nils Lid Hjort
Luna Storta
Hello,

OLE:
You said something extremely interesting about russian
Disney Comics, do you know how to order them or if it's
possible to subscribe to the edition with the Barksian
stuff?

CLAUS OLA:
The italian stories you were talking about some issues ago,
are known in Italy as "Le Grandi Parodie", and there are
many stories responding to your description; Marco already
told you about "I Miserabili". Some other great titles are:

Paperin Meschino (P.L. De Vita/Martina) TL 197-198
Paperino don Chisciotte (P.L. De Vita/Martina) TL 137-139
Il dottor Paperus (Bottaro/Chendi) TL 188-189
L'inferno di Topolino (Bioletto/Martina) TL 7-12
Paperino e i tre moschettieri (P.L. De Vita/Martina) TL 162-163
P. di Munchhausen (P.L. De Vita/Martina) TL 180-181
Guerra e Pace (G.B. Carpi) TL 1604
Paperodissea (P.L. De Vita/Martina) TL 268-269
Paperino principe di Dunimarca (P.L. De Vita/Martina) TL 227-228
....

and *MANY OTHERS*. If you want to know something more about
them feel free to contact me via e-mail or on the list!

RICH:

About the charachters you asked for:
About Ducklien and Zilia (not Zigia) and some other ones, I
can tell you what I found on the "yellow book" by Boschi,
Gori, Sani and Becattini "I Disney italiani":
Ducklien and Zilia were inhabitants of the planet Beta
Centaurum, of Minox constellation. Ducklien was the
planet's king, but after a revolution he is send away from
the planet (exiliated) with his nepew Zilia (a sort of
Daisy Duck) and his technician Gallien (a sort of Gyro
Gearloose). Their spaceship needs a very particular fuel:
gold in circular shape (coins...) and so they happened to
fight Scrooge. The first time they appeared in Scarpa's
"Paperobot contro i Paperoidi" on TL (Topolino Libretto)
1317-1318 in 1981 and the second (and last) one on TL 1711
in "Paperolimpiadi".

Reginella is one of my preferred charachters, both for art
and for the story in which she appeared. Created in 1972 by
Rodolfo Cimino and Giorgio Cavazzano, her first appearance
is when she captures Donald while he's swimming in
"Paperino e l'avventura sottomarina" in TL 873. Soon Donald
and Reginella fall in love, but some troubles in Donald's
behaviour reveals him as a coward, not ready to share the
reign with Reginella and is send back to the surface..
She'll appear in 2 more stories: "Paperino e il ritorno di
Reginella" (Almanacco Topolino #213 in 1974) and "Paperino
e il matrimonio di Reginella" (TL #1673 in 1987).

If you think that this kind of info are what you are
looking for, soon I'll send you other stuff. BTW if you
need some images too, let me know!!!

Ciao,
Paolo Castagno alias Luna Storta

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Per Starback
Before leaving, Harry sent me a new version of the Disney comics
Database and now I've put that on the ftp server.

That is it's available at <URL:ftp://ftp.update.uu.se/comics/disney/index/>.
The zip files that everything was made from are in the "zip"
subdirectory.

The web searches does NOT use the new version yet.
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
DON:
>Someone (and I don't have time to check) was asking if Disney has
decided
>on color for Scrooge's coat. They have -- the DuckTales colors of blue
with
>red trim. Fortunately, what Disney decides about the colors of that
>Ducktales character has no bearing on the actual $crooge McDuck
comic-book
>character.
Actually, the guys who decided on the coat color for "DuckTales"
made their choice based on the French and Italian comics, which had
traditionally used the blue coat/red trim since at least the early
1970s. Why refer, by the way, to those European comics and not our own?
Because our own comics had never colored the coat *consistently*. The
red/gray colors that we view as most authentic for Scrooge were first
used *consistently* on Barks' oil paintings.
And, in fact (and quite surprisingly), the red coat is beginning
to become common in new Scrooge items produced and/or licensed by
Disney. One new "Mickey and the gang" storybook series (otherwise
unexceptional) has a few books in its lineup that include Scrooge, and
he's actually given his red coat (admittedly, with black cuffs and
collar, although that's a fairly standard variation that Tony Strobl
initiated at Western around 1970).

MIKE:
My current job at Egmont involves just what it sounds like
-=A0editing typed scripts for Disney comics stories. Scripts that, for
each panel of a story, explain who's in the picture, who's doing what =
to
whom, and who's speaking (and what their dialogue is). When these
scripts leave my office, they go to the Art Department, who assigns one
of our artists to draw them.
At this point I'm working with as-yet-unedited scripts that
were/are already in our archives, and I'm not involved in actually
commissioning *new* scripts as yet. If you or anyone you know wants to
write stories for Egmont, I'm not the guy to talk to. (Maybe this =
hadn't
even crossed your mind, but I figured the question might come up for
somebody.)

David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Frank Fabian
DWIGHT:

>Question. Outside of the hard-core dedicated fan contingent, are
>there enough people in Europe who read English well enough to
>buy US imports that sales of local translated editions would be at
>affected?

I doubt so. In Germany, English is the most common foreign language taught
in schools nowadays; practically everybody who went to school after WW II
(in West Germany, at least) has had some English, and among the younger
population quite a number speak / read it quite well. But "quite a number"
is far from "many, many, many", and it certainly doesn't mean those people
would all want to read their comic books in English. After all, it IS
harder to read, and the albums are also more expensive in English, so I
think most would stick to the German versions, which (in case of the Barks
Library) continually pop up on the list of "best-sold comic album of the
month", not rarely even in the nr. 1 spot.
I think a large number of the sales of Gladstones comes from people who,
like me, buy both versions; the original because it's the original, the
German version because of the German text, which is often a literary piece
of art in its own. And those people won't buy one local edition more when
Gladstones aren't on sale in shops any more.
So I really doubt that the sales figures, which are already very good for
the German edition of the Barks Library, can be pushed further by banishing
the Gladstone editions from German shops. This is true even more for the
weekly and other newsstand material, where sales figures are so high that
the figures for the Gladstone newsstand (non-album) titles pale by
comparison. Even more, someone who buys Gladstones exclusively does so for
a purpose, and won't switch to the weekly, which is very obviously (and
sometimes nauseatingly) aimed at kids, but find other ways to get the
Gladstones instead.
In conclusion, I think that when better sales figures are the goal behind
what is going on right now, this measures will backfire. Not only will they
not achieve that goal, but they will also damage the reputation of whomever
is behind this; be it Ehapa or Disney Germany or another European license
holder (though in that case I wonder why seemingly only German customs
seized Gladstones).
I hope Gladstone won't have any lasting damage from this, beyond the damage
they invariably have already. They really don't deserve this. My (moral, at
least) support is with you.

Best regards, Frank
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Ole R. Nielsen
I apologize for repeating the accusations in the German Donaldist
magazine about Don re-vamping an old Strobl story as "Last Sled
for Dawson". Truth is, I hadn't even read the article thoroughly,
and only reacted to the printed examples of Don's panels alongside
the 'originals'; the "accusations" above as well as the choise of
wording in the subject line (along the lines of "unlawful
acquisition"!) were my own and exaggerated for effect, as you all
realized - thanks guys, on any other ml I'd probably be knee-deep
in hate mails now.

My excuse for bringing up the subject (again, as it appeared) was that
the only non-Barks (Disney) story I remembered Don saying that he'd used
was the shoe-shine story. But that must have been for the Lo$ only.
I _did_ search my old digests for comments about "Last Sled to Dawson"
and didn't find anything relevant.
Apparently I didn't look thoroughly enough.
I promise to research better next time I post.
I promise ... (100 times)

NILS:
I don't have a subscription to the Russian Disney books, but got a
couple of issues, when family members went to Sct. Petersburg.
(Standing orders to anyone I know going abroad: "Buy Disney comics!")
I hope you'll have luck when you go to language(?) conference in
Moscow.

-- Ole Reichstein Nielsen
Awiles
TO: (Email removed)

Hi!

Does anybody know of a location on the net or in Connecticut or Ontario
that would be a good source for older Uncle $crooge comics. I'm trying to
add to my collection and I am having trouble finding anything pre-Gladstone.

Andrew
Anna-Maija Ihander
Hi!

I'm doing to a project in school about the censorship of Disney comics
and was wondering if you people could help me. I haven't been able to
aquire enough information and I've got a week to finish the project! So
if you know any useful web sites (I did find the one about Don Rosa, it
was great), books (...?) or just would like to share your knowledge with
me (like names of banned stories) please mail me!

I should propably intoduce myself shortly. My name is Anna-Maija, I'm
generally known as Unski, and I'm a 17-year-old girl from Naantali,
Finland. I've been on this list for 2 weeks.

Bye & thanks in advance :D!

Unski

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Anna-Maija Ihander
Hi!

I'm doing to a project in school about the censorship of Disney comics
and was wondering if you people could help me. I haven't been able to
aquire enough information and I've got a week to finish the project! So
if you know any useful web sites (I did find the one about Don Rosa, it
was great), books (...?) or just would like to share your knowledge with
me (like names of banned stories) please mail me!

I should propably introduce myself shortly. My name is Anna-Maija, I'm
generally known as Unski, and I'm a 17-year-old girl from Naantali,
Finland. I've been on this list for 2 weeks.

Bye & thanks in advance :D!

Unski

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Anna-Maija Ihander
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Reality is for people who can't handle Star Trek

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Mike Schneiderath
Hi everyone!

First of all:
"Hi to everyone on the Mailing List" from Don Rosa.

I just met him today at the first signing event in Giessen (germany). It
was in a big store and probably 30 to 40 people were there to get a drawing
or at least something signed! But since he had a little bit less then 2
hours, all that he was able to draw were quick headscribbles. It was very
obvious that Don felt very sorry that he wasn t able to do nicer drawings
or at least spent a little more time on each one. The guy who hosted the
show was even telling him things like "another scrooge head into this
album, but a little bit faster" from time to time. With Don answering..
"That is just as fast as I can...and the drawings already look terrible..."

But still he managed to do a lot of very nice scribbles and seemed
perfectly relaxed...I hope that stays this way in the next few days.

In my opinion the organisation was at least a little bit "fuzzy"...first
everyone had to buy an Album and a got a number. But when the "show"
started it soon wasn t really important anymore if someone had a number or
bought something in advance.

But what is really strange is what some people want to get signed...of
course not everyone was that familiar with Don and his work as most of the
people who read this report.
One guy, who seemed to be a "autograph hunter" showed me a telephone card
from Tokio Disneyland and asked me if Don had drawn the picture on it (with
micky pluto scrooge..), since it was quite obvious that it was an authentic
"Non Rosa" picture I had to say no, nevertheless he asked Don to sign that
card, wich Don did finally (with his eyebrows building a big question mark...)

But to top even that there came another guy who had a weird selection of
items for Don to sign. First he had a "Who is Carl Barks?" book where don
had to draw a donald head inside, and after that he handed Don postcards
with Carl Barks covers and barks pencil drawings for Don to sign. (Don t
imagine his face expression during this...)But he still "signed" them with
"Don Rosa?"...but just as the guy (after some strange newspaper articles
that had nearly nothing to do with Don but that he still signed) asked Don
to Sign a Carl Barks "telephonecard collectors set" Don refused to sign
this item. Saying that it would obviously have been completely useless to
have him sign this!

Also I noticed that MOST of the people there were not yet familiar with
Don s work, they just came because he made the drawings. But that could of
course very well mean that Don just made some new Fans :-)

This was Mike Martin Schneiderath (don t try to spell this name at home
kids) for DCML-News reporting Hagen (germany)!

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Tarjei Kidd Olsen
DAVID:

>commissioning *new* scripts as yet. If you or anyone you know wants to
>write stories for Egmont,

Hmm..now that you mention it, I would find that interesting. any idea who I
should contact? Any web pages on the subject?
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