About Scarpa stories:
"The Man from Altacraz" is in Swedish "Pocketbook" #11 (and in the
corresponding Danish "Jumbo"?). It was the first Mickey title in this series
after ten Donalds and Scrooges, and this is the first story in it. As a kid
I found it quite on the weird side, nothing like any other Disney story I
had read. I distinctly remember deciding I didn't like it, a very rare thing
for me at the time. I guess I have to reread it now. I'm not sure the
Swedish translation is one of the best, but the name of the instrument works
very well, still meaning "funnelphone".
On the other hand, "The Flying Scotsman" also appeared in one of these books
around this time, and this I loved right from the start.
"The Last Balaboo" came much later, and when it did, it was dubbed "a rare
classic of old" and "a notable exception" by Swedish Donaldists who followed
the "Pockets" (Jumbos). This was before most of us knew any actual names of
artists. The word in Swedish is "balabu".
About Murry's Phantom Blot:
I'm his fan. If anyone finds this character weak or the adventures dull, we
are not talking about the same stories. Again going back to my childhood,
some of these adventures stood out as the most exciting of all... way up
there, or even beyond, many Barks stories of the time, at least when it came
to thrill and suspense. ('Course, I had never seen much Gottfredson.) In my
view, the Blot may still be the foremost villain in Disney comics, and this
is based on my memories of the Murry stories. (Magica is good, too. There's
something alluring and intriguing about these dark, secret types!)
BIRTE:
>Stefan, you also wrote the preface for the Danish Golden Book No. 2.
Thanks for telling me! But not for ## 3, 4, and 5, eh? Just curious... Also
thanks to Vidar for informing me that Jon Gisle did the Norwegian ones.
OLE:
>Minnie's third niece gained her undeserved fame in Jon
>Gisle's ground-breaking work "Donaldismen" in 1973, and
>even had an -ism (the book is full of them) named after her:
>"Tonism" from her Norwegian name "Tone". Sadly I don't
>have any copies of the book anymore, so I can't check the
>references, but I recall the picture of her showing the black
>angles extending into her face around the eyes (are you
>with me?) having a distinct swirl, like a curly hairlock.
This is evidently the one we now have learned is "Melody" in English.
(Swedish: Tuttan.) But Gisle actually didn't say much about her in
"Donaldismen". One of his famous footnotes goes something like this: "She is
the most useless and intolerable character in all of Donaldism, and I will
not waste more than a footnote on her." Later, he had to mention her name
again, and put in another footnote that simply stated, "Blaeh."
Gisle didn't waste any pictures in his book on Melody, either. Your
recollection must be from the following discussion in fanzines like
"Donaldisten", where I also believe that the term "Tonism" was coined. The
message to all followers, however, is crystal clear, and it worked, too. To
this day, like I hinted previously, all Scandinavian Donaldists of our
generation hate poor Melody vehemently.
BILL LIPSKY, and also HARRY:
>kim weston did create a bibliography of carl barks' writings about scrooge
>mcduck, but it appeared in jack chalker's an informal biography of scrooge
>mcduck, not in mike barrier's book.
This is my mistake. I thought I checked, but when I check again, it doesn't
look like I did a very good job. Sorry about that! Maybe the back of my mind
confused Barrier's bibliography with the one in Chalker's book, which was
also one of the first I came across. (Incidentally, that one has "Mythtic
Mystery" misspelled.)
The Swedish title of that story is from the 60's and has no pun. I don't
know if I could come up with a good one if I had to try, but I doubt it.
DAVID:
> Being a translator is one thing, and being an Americanizer (or
>Germanizer, or Danishizer, or any-foreign-language-izer) is another.
>Translating is just producing an exact replica of what you started with
>in another language. But Americanizing also involves tailoring the
>product to meet a specific comic book market, and the expectations of
>that market. So Americanizer is an *editorial* job as well as a
>systematic one.
This is much like how I look at my "translating" job. In our branch, with so
many different Disney traditions in various countries, I think a little
"editing" is an integral part of translating. Then, of course, the type and
amount of editing might always be discussed.
HARRY:
>In my youth (late 60s), we read the comics over and over and over, until
>they were completely torn and/or have fallen apart. While my sister and
>I strongly protested, my mother made a big pile of comics and loose
>comic pages, have us pick a few reasonable comics out of it, and threw
>the rest away.
>In the mean time, I have regained almost all of the lost comics from my
>youth.
Hmm... who wrote this? I'm surprised it wasn't me. My story exactly, only I
have two sisters!
Stefan Dios
Malmo, Sweden
S Diös
Author
Topic: 199807
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Stefan Diös
Recent Digests
Message 256 -
1998-07-23 at 17:12:35
Donald D. Markstein
Disney comics Digest V98 #172
Message 257 -
1998-07-23 at 18:49:42
DAVID GERSTEIN --
Your explanation of the alteration of "Colossus of
the Nile" makes perfect sense to me, but then, my
attitude has always been that if you like the original
version better, that's okay because it's STILL THERE.
As you know (but others may not), I've asked for
and gotten actual changes in the artwork when I've
Americanized European stories. The biggest change I've
asked for was a couple of additions to the artwork of
"The Nabob of Noh-Wei", published in Gladstone's UNCLE
SCROOGE ADVENTURES #26 -- notably, having the urn as
photographed with Scrooge filled with jewels. This
provided a better story-telling rationale (why did
Scrooge show it off in a magazine article as a big
archaeological find, and then simply put it to use in
his home?), and in the process, tied it in with a
Barks story.
Quack, Don
Your explanation of the alteration of "Colossus of
the Nile" makes perfect sense to me, but then, my
attitude has always been that if you like the original
version better, that's okay because it's STILL THERE.
As you know (but others may not), I've asked for
and gotten actual changes in the artwork when I've
Americanized European stories. The biggest change I've
asked for was a couple of additions to the artwork of
"The Nabob of Noh-Wei", published in Gladstone's UNCLE
SCROOGE ADVENTURES #26 -- notably, having the urn as
photographed with Scrooge filled with jewels. This
provided a better story-telling rationale (why did
Scrooge show it off in a magazine article as a big
archaeological find, and then simply put it to use in
his home?), and in the process, tied it in with a
Barks story.
Quack, Don
HorizonHse
Disney comics Digest V98 #172
Message 258 -
1998-07-23 at 20:54:17
hi,
another rainbow has a new website address. it is:
http://www.brucehamilton.com/brucehamco.html
bill lipsky
another rainbow has a new website address. it is:
http://www.brucehamilton.com/brucehamco.html
bill lipsky
Rich Bellacera
Belle Duck
Message 259 -
1998-07-24 at 01:15:20
KATIE QUACKFASTER said:
>Bella Quack/Belle Duck (???) (Rich B...did you ever get another scan of
>her online?)
I had her up there a little while back, but I took her back down. She's now
back up for your viewing and downloading pleasure:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/belle.gif
I also uploaded a fun picture with many many of the females who have
attempted some modicum of influence (good or bad) on him over the decades:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/scroogegirls.gif
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
>Bella Quack/Belle Duck (???) (Rich B...did you ever get another scan of
>her online?)
I had her up there a little while back, but I took her back down. She's now
back up for your viewing and downloading pleasure:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/belle.gif
I also uploaded a fun picture with many many of the females who have
attempted some modicum of influence (good or bad) on him over the decades:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/scroogegirls.gif
-Rich (xephyr)
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/disney.html
Eta Beta
Disney comics Digest V98 #172
Message 260 -
1998-07-24 at 02:21:06
DAVID G.
[on Colossus]
>>>Still, I can't help but wondering what happened to page 3...;-)
>
>>To quote the animated version of Donald, "Awright - awwwRIGHT!"
>> I knew you'd call me on that one of these days... ;-)
Well, a whole page missing is unlikely to go unnoticed... ;-)
However, thanks for the explanation and for your kind attitude
with us naggin' fans from the old world... :-)
DAVID <(Email removed)>
>Recently there has been discussions about Scarpa's work. It has been good
>to see information about him in English. I have picked up a few titles in
>English from this list and it made me wonder if there is a completed list
>of Scarpa's work in English
By an extraordinary coincidence, I happen to maintain a web site that's
all about Scarpa in English :-)
The list you're looking for is there on "The Last Balaboo" at
http://members.xoom.com/eega/scarpa/balaboo.html
XAVIER METCALF (Hello Xavier, me good pal ;-)
>> EB: Actually, it's a common belief in the Disney world that the
>> Blot was modelled after Walter Elias Disney himself...:-)
>> P: Did you ever comparised the unmasked Blot to Walt Disney?
>> They ARE the same person!
>Perhaps it's an Italian-thing that this deduction comes easily? :-)
Dunno, I guess there's enough physical evidence to at least allow
a suspicion that Gottfredson might have intended to have some fun
with his boss... :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
[on Colossus]
>>>Still, I can't help but wondering what happened to page 3...;-)
>
>>To quote the animated version of Donald, "Awright - awwwRIGHT!"
>> I knew you'd call me on that one of these days... ;-)
Well, a whole page missing is unlikely to go unnoticed... ;-)
However, thanks for the explanation and for your kind attitude
with us naggin' fans from the old world... :-)
DAVID <(Email removed)>
>Recently there has been discussions about Scarpa's work. It has been good
>to see information about him in English. I have picked up a few titles in
>English from this list and it made me wonder if there is a completed list
>of Scarpa's work in English
By an extraordinary coincidence, I happen to maintain a web site that's
all about Scarpa in English :-)
The list you're looking for is there on "The Last Balaboo" at
http://members.xoom.com/eega/scarpa/balaboo.html
XAVIER METCALF (Hello Xavier, me good pal ;-)
>> EB: Actually, it's a common belief in the Disney world that the
>> Blot was modelled after Walter Elias Disney himself...:-)
>> P: Did you ever comparised the unmasked Blot to Walt Disney?
>> They ARE the same person!
>Perhaps it's an Italian-thing that this deduction comes easily? :-)
Dunno, I guess there's enough physical evidence to at least allow
a suspicion that Gottfredson might have intended to have some fun
with his boss... :-)
Cheers
Eta Beta
Heitmann, Owen James - HEIOJ001
(No subject)
Message 261 -
1998-07-24 at 05:58:13
G'day,
Great news (well, for me, at least)!
I just dropped back into the good comic shop in Adelaide, South
Australia, and I was delighted to see a new issue of WDC&S on the
shelves! Number 627, to be precise. According to the man behind the
counter, Gladstone finally managed to sort out their overseas
distribution deal with Disney which has been suspended for at least six
months - and, although this is a totally different kettle of fish to
their actual licensing deal, it sort of gives me a hopeful outlook.
Well, I'm just looking forward to catching up on what I've been missing
for so long!
Cheers!
Owen Heitmann
Great news (well, for me, at least)!
I just dropped back into the good comic shop in Adelaide, South
Australia, and I was delighted to see a new issue of WDC&S on the
shelves! Number 627, to be precise. According to the man behind the
counter, Gladstone finally managed to sort out their overseas
distribution deal with Disney which has been suspended for at least six
months - and, although this is a totally different kettle of fish to
their actual licensing deal, it sort of gives me a hopeful outlook.
Well, I'm just looking forward to catching up on what I've been missing
for so long!
Cheers!
Owen Heitmann
Hochstetter
Framed comics?!
Message 262 -
1998-07-24 at 12:13:12
Hi all,
<Ross wrote:>
>i have been fortuate to find a custom frame shop to help preserve it
>while it is displayed by the following: no adhesives were used, all
>materials around the comic book are 100% rag cotton (acid-free), and the
>plexiglass has a glazing of OP-2 (an ultra-violet blocking layer) to
>help with sunlight damage.
>also, my hallway is dark usually and out of direct sunlight, which
>helps. i am happy to see it framed and get enjoyment having it out -
>even at the risk of exposing the cover. does anyone else have a framed
>comic? anyone else display their comics?
Yes, I do. But only professional colour copies made on a Colour Laser
Copier (Canon) at my company. So if the sunlight REALLY destroys the
prints I simply made a new one. I love to look at all the frames hanging
around the walls, there are so much great covers which are simply too
bad about getting dusty at their cupboard.
>
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #173
******************************************
<Ross wrote:>
>i have been fortuate to find a custom frame shop to help preserve it
>while it is displayed by the following: no adhesives were used, all
>materials around the comic book are 100% rag cotton (acid-free), and the
>plexiglass has a glazing of OP-2 (an ultra-violet blocking layer) to
>help with sunlight damage.
>also, my hallway is dark usually and out of direct sunlight, which
>helps. i am happy to see it framed and get enjoyment having it out -
>even at the risk of exposing the cover. does anyone else have a framed
>comic? anyone else display their comics?
Yes, I do. But only professional colour copies made on a Colour Laser
Copier (Canon) at my company. So if the sunlight REALLY destroys the
prints I simply made a new one. I love to look at all the frames hanging
around the walls, there are so much great covers which are simply too
bad about getting dusty at their cupboard.
>
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #173
******************************************
Anders Engwall
The mythtic funnelphone & more
Message 263 -
1998-07-24 at 12:33:10
Eta Beta ((Email removed)):
> It's always been my personal opinion that the whole Disney production
> sort of "stepped down" around the mid-sixties. All story plots became
> much simpler, as if they were specifically addressed to a much younger
> audience than they used to...
I'd say that the real decline came about somewhat later, in
the early seventies. There was some very fine material even
in the latter half of sixties; several of Strobl's 10-pagers
in WDC (e.g. "The People Collector" in WDC 314 and "The Pride
of Duckburg" in WDC 323) are remarkably good and this also
holds for Murry's work (e.g. "Blackbeard the Pirate" in MM 114,
and "Peril at Panther Pass" in WDC 333-335). Additionally, the
material from Disney Studios for the overseas market included
some great stories, such as the Fethry/Hard Haid Moe stuff
that have been discussed at length here before.
However, I see hardly any such exceptions from the seventies.
For instance, not only did Western cut down on their own
production around 1969-70 (?), what little that was left got
considerably worse. That includes Murry's work, which in
my opinion got quite infantile during the course of the
70's. In addition to that, the material from Disney Studios
stopped being as good as before a couple of years into the
new decade and those early efforts from Gutenberghus were
not an adequate compensation, as they were pretty awful.
[About "Man from Altacraz"]
> An innocent is suspected of a crime, and all evidence is
> against him... moreover, the character's past is not
> exactly limpid, and the real villain is also plotting
> against him... and we can't be sure he's really innocent,
> after all...
>
> Sounds familiar ? It's pure Alfred Hitchcock :-)
To generalize a bit, this is archetypal Film Noir (of which
Hitch of course made a few). I always liked the tone of
mystique and darkness in this story.
/ Anders Engwall
> It's always been my personal opinion that the whole Disney production
> sort of "stepped down" around the mid-sixties. All story plots became
> much simpler, as if they were specifically addressed to a much younger
> audience than they used to...
I'd say that the real decline came about somewhat later, in
the early seventies. There was some very fine material even
in the latter half of sixties; several of Strobl's 10-pagers
in WDC (e.g. "The People Collector" in WDC 314 and "The Pride
of Duckburg" in WDC 323) are remarkably good and this also
holds for Murry's work (e.g. "Blackbeard the Pirate" in MM 114,
and "Peril at Panther Pass" in WDC 333-335). Additionally, the
material from Disney Studios for the overseas market included
some great stories, such as the Fethry/Hard Haid Moe stuff
that have been discussed at length here before.
However, I see hardly any such exceptions from the seventies.
For instance, not only did Western cut down on their own
production around 1969-70 (?), what little that was left got
considerably worse. That includes Murry's work, which in
my opinion got quite infantile during the course of the
70's. In addition to that, the material from Disney Studios
stopped being as good as before a couple of years into the
new decade and those early efforts from Gutenberghus were
not an adequate compensation, as they were pretty awful.
[About "Man from Altacraz"]
> An innocent is suspected of a crime, and all evidence is
> against him... moreover, the character's past is not
> exactly limpid, and the real villain is also plotting
> against him... and we can't be sure he's really innocent,
> after all...
>
> Sounds familiar ? It's pure Alfred Hitchcock :-)
To generalize a bit, this is archetypal Film Noir (of which
Hitch of course made a few). I always liked the tone of
mystique and darkness in this story.
/ Anders Engwall
Santiago García Baños
Duck Eggs
Message 264 -
1998-07-24 at 12:57:40
BOB KASS and DONALD D. MARKSTEIN:
>My big question is: Would the ducks lay eggs, or give birth live, like
>mammals?
>Perhaps some people could
>name stories in which eggs are mentioned regarding "our" ducks,
>Other thoughts?
As far as I can remember, there is at least one story in which U.Scrooge
is laying 2 eggs expecting 2 gooses to be born (in my translated
version, Scrooge names them Romeo and Julliet). The title is maybe
something like 'golden gooses island', and they are also appearing
Magica De Spell and The Beagle Boys. I think (not sure) it's from Barks.
Unfortunately, the DB is not working by the time being, so I can't find
up the right title and story code. Any of you knows?
SKN.
*** - Groucho: Two fried eggs, two scrambled eggs and two medium-boiled
eggs.
*** - Chicco: ...And 2 hard-boiled eggs!
*** - Groucho: And 2 hard-boiled eggs.
*** - Harpo: (Twooot!)
*** - Groucho: Make that three hard-boiled eggs.
*** - Harpo: (Twooot!)
*** - Groucho: And one duck egg.
>My big question is: Would the ducks lay eggs, or give birth live, like
>mammals?
>Perhaps some people could
>name stories in which eggs are mentioned regarding "our" ducks,
>Other thoughts?
As far as I can remember, there is at least one story in which U.Scrooge
is laying 2 eggs expecting 2 gooses to be born (in my translated
version, Scrooge names them Romeo and Julliet). The title is maybe
something like 'golden gooses island', and they are also appearing
Magica De Spell and The Beagle Boys. I think (not sure) it's from Barks.
Unfortunately, the DB is not working by the time being, so I can't find
up the right title and story code. Any of you knows?
SKN.
*** - Groucho: Two fried eggs, two scrambled eggs and two medium-boiled
eggs.
*** - Chicco: ...And 2 hard-boiled eggs!
*** - Groucho: And 2 hard-boiled eggs.
*** - Harpo: (Twooot!)
*** - Groucho: Make that three hard-boiled eggs.
*** - Harpo: (Twooot!)
*** - Groucho: And one duck egg.
Fluks, H.W.
Duck Eggs
Message 265 -
1998-07-24 at 14:03:03
SKN:
> As far as I can remember, there is at least one story in which U.Scrooge
> is laying 2 eggs expecting 2 gooses to be born
Scrooge was breeding the eggs, but he certainly didn't lay them (he is
male, after all)!
> Unfortunately, the DB is not working by the time being, so I can't find
> up the right title and story code. Any of you knows?
My personal copy of the database says the following:
W US 45-01 23 63-01-28 CB CB US T:Isle of Golden Geese
| de: TGD 100
| dk: DS 1980,GB 9
| fr: JM 739,NO,PM 204
| nl: 72-03+*,KV.15,OD.09,VD.05'
| se: GB 9,VKFT 80
| us: BL 5-049,DCA 6,LICU 42
| w: US 139,WDCD 9
(Which means it's indeed a Barks story, 23 pages, from Uncle Scrooge
#45.)
--Harry.
> As far as I can remember, there is at least one story in which U.Scrooge
> is laying 2 eggs expecting 2 gooses to be born
Scrooge was breeding the eggs, but he certainly didn't lay them (he is
male, after all)!
> Unfortunately, the DB is not working by the time being, so I can't find
> up the right title and story code. Any of you knows?
My personal copy of the database says the following:
W US 45-01 23 63-01-28 CB CB US T:Isle of Golden Geese
| de: TGD 100
| dk: DS 1980,GB 9
| fr: JM 739,NO,PM 204
| nl: 72-03+*,KV.15,OD.09,VD.05'
| se: GB 9,VKFT 80
| us: BL 5-049,DCA 6,LICU 42
| w: US 139,WDCD 9
(Which means it's indeed a Barks story, 23 pages, from Uncle Scrooge
#45.)
--Harry.
Claudia Rege Cambrin
Scrooge's girls - request for info
Message 266 -
1998-07-24 at 14:03:50
Hi!
Rich Bellacera wrote:
>I also uploaded a fun picture with many many of the females who have
>attempted some modicum of influence (good or bad) on him over the decades:
>http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/scroogegirls.gif
Nice picture, but I'm afraid I need some help on some of the characters
portrayed.
1- The young female duck with a big pink ribbon that looks very much like
AMJ but of course is not one of them (she's in front of the picture, on the
right), is she from the DuckTales series, or am I wrong?
2- Who is the one on the right, with blue jacket, red hair, yellow ribbon,
and glasses?
3- And the one on her left, with pink gown, red lipstick and curlers on her
head?
4- Who the one above Ms Quackfaster, with black hair?
5- And the blonde one between her and Madam Mim?
6- About the young witch in the top-left corner, I remember her from some
old stories from my childhood, but I know little about her (her Italian
name was Streghella or something like that). I would be grateful if anyone
could tell me more about this character which I used to like as a girl.
What's her name (both original and in translations), who made her, etc. If
I remember well, she was Magica de Spell's niece.
Plus, who is the old male duck in the centre? (I'm joking here, of course ;) )
Thank you very much
Claudia
(((( --------------------------------------------------
jgs { '> Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs.
/ ,\ --------------------------------------------------
/_/ / Claudia Rege Cambrin ((Email removed))
===//="==== Corso Nazionale 161, 19125 La Spezia (SP) - ITALY
/ --------------------------------------------------
Rich Bellacera wrote:
>I also uploaded a fun picture with many many of the females who have
>attempted some modicum of influence (good or bad) on him over the decades:
>http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/scroogegirls.gif
Nice picture, but I'm afraid I need some help on some of the characters
portrayed.
1- The young female duck with a big pink ribbon that looks very much like
AMJ but of course is not one of them (she's in front of the picture, on the
right), is she from the DuckTales series, or am I wrong?
2- Who is the one on the right, with blue jacket, red hair, yellow ribbon,
and glasses?
3- And the one on her left, with pink gown, red lipstick and curlers on her
head?
4- Who the one above Ms Quackfaster, with black hair?
5- And the blonde one between her and Madam Mim?
6- About the young witch in the top-left corner, I remember her from some
old stories from my childhood, but I know little about her (her Italian
name was Streghella or something like that). I would be grateful if anyone
could tell me more about this character which I used to like as a girl.
What's her name (both original and in translations), who made her, etc. If
I remember well, she was Magica de Spell's niece.
Plus, who is the old male duck in the centre? (I'm joking here, of course ;) )
Thank you very much
Claudia
(((( --------------------------------------------------
jgs { '> Few women admit their age. Few men act theirs.
/ ,\ --------------------------------------------------
/_/ / Claudia Rege Cambrin ((Email removed))
===//="==== Corso Nazionale 161, 19125 La Spezia (SP) - ITALY
/ --------------------------------------------------
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
Disney comics Digest V98 #173
Message 267 -
1998-07-24 at 14:52:12
KRITON:
[Re: "Colossus"]
>Either you are lucky enough to have an efficient government, or you =
are
>very naive. Ignoring the issue / being unable to deal with it, and
>doing trivial things that do not address it is common practice where I
>come from, and I suspect it was (still is?) the same in Italy when
>Scarpa wrote the story.
Don't worry... I'm not naive (and certainly not lucky, either in
terms of my government, or in terms of the messes I seem to get into,
like this one...)
When criticizing the ministers' behavior on the original Page 3,
I wasn't intending to mean that I didn't approve of Scarpa's political
statement -=A0and even if I didn't approve, it wouldn't have been up to =
me
to make a judgement! Notice that I left in all the later instances of
government blockheadedness, incompetency and waste in the story. The
head minister saying he does everything right, the implied mountains of
red tape as the ministers refuse to change the deadline of the dam
opening -=A0all that stuff.
What I mean to imply is that the issue I took with Page 3 was
*not* with the ministers acting foolish per se, but with the fact that
they did it at that particular *point* in the story.
But like I have also said before, I altered "Colossus" in 1995,
and I *wouldn't* have made the same kind of cut today.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
[Re: "Colossus"]
>Either you are lucky enough to have an efficient government, or you =
are
>very naive. Ignoring the issue / being unable to deal with it, and
>doing trivial things that do not address it is common practice where I
>come from, and I suspect it was (still is?) the same in Italy when
>Scarpa wrote the story.
Don't worry... I'm not naive (and certainly not lucky, either in
terms of my government, or in terms of the messes I seem to get into,
like this one...)
When criticizing the ministers' behavior on the original Page 3,
I wasn't intending to mean that I didn't approve of Scarpa's political
statement -=A0and even if I didn't approve, it wouldn't have been up to =
me
to make a judgement! Notice that I left in all the later instances of
government blockheadedness, incompetency and waste in the story. The
head minister saying he does everything right, the implied mountains of
red tape as the ministers refuse to change the deadline of the dam
opening -=A0all that stuff.
What I mean to imply is that the issue I took with Page 3 was
*not* with the ministers acting foolish per se, but with the fact that
they did it at that particular *point* in the story.
But like I have also said before, I altered "Colossus" in 1995,
and I *wouldn't* have made the same kind of cut today.
David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
Kosarin
Eggs & Stuff
Message 268 -
1998-07-24 at 16:45:06
Okay... here's what I think.
First the Duck Eggs.
I think they are hatched.
This is because of all the references and that Huey was hatched 5 minutes before Dewey.
Then there's 'multispecies breeding'.
I think it's possible with any 2 anthromorphics.
I have no idea how it's possible but I think it is.
The stuff similar to Donald naked wasn't because of specific parts but because he was in a 'private zone'.
Think of it like a peacock with no feathers.
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First the Duck Eggs.
I think they are hatched.
This is because of all the references and that Huey was hatched 5 minutes before Dewey.
Then there's 'multispecies breeding'.
I think it's possible with any 2 anthromorphics.
I have no idea how it's possible but I think it is.
The stuff similar to Donald naked wasn't because of specific parts but because he was in a 'private zone'.
Think of it like a peacock with no feathers.
This message sent courtesy of:
PLANET DIRECT
http://my.planetdirect.com
Donald D. Markstein
Junkville Journal
Message 269 -
1998-07-24 at 19:25:40
KRITON KYRIMIS --
>> "Either you are lucky enough to have an efficient
>> government, or you are very naive. Ignoring the
>> issue / being unable to deal with it, and doing
>> trivial things that do not address it is common
>> practice where I come from, and I suspect it was
>> (still is?) the same in Italy when Scarpa wrote the
>> story."
That's not the point. The STORY is what is
important, not the way real people behave. In many
cases, a story can be told best by conforming to actual
human behavior; other times, it's best to introduce
small alterations to keep things going. Political
statements, funny sequences, reality -- they're all
secondary. When you're telling a story, the story
takes precedence over everything.
As to the number of Beagles in "Hawaiian
Holiday", I took Scrooge's reference to mean there
were AT LEAST 30 on the island. He claims to have
washed dishes for that many (which is an unusual
number to cite, if what you mean is "many"), but
didn't say all had been present at that meal.
And like I said, 15 different numbers were
legible in that story. All had 176 as the prefix,
but the suffixes were all over the place.
HARRY FLUKS --
If you're constructing dream computers, why be
a piker? MY dream computer has a vacuum cleaner
peripheral that will suck up my entire collection
and put it all on one disk that I can simply put in
a drawer next to my desk. When I want an item from it,
I simply put the disk in the machine, tell it what I
want with a simple keyboard command, and out it comes
-- pulp paper aroma and all.
BOB KASS --
The Stork brings them. This fact is clearly seen
in the opening sequence of DUMBO.
Quack, Don=
>> "Either you are lucky enough to have an efficient
>> government, or you are very naive. Ignoring the
>> issue / being unable to deal with it, and doing
>> trivial things that do not address it is common
>> practice where I come from, and I suspect it was
>> (still is?) the same in Italy when Scarpa wrote the
>> story."
That's not the point. The STORY is what is
important, not the way real people behave. In many
cases, a story can be told best by conforming to actual
human behavior; other times, it's best to introduce
small alterations to keep things going. Political
statements, funny sequences, reality -- they're all
secondary. When you're telling a story, the story
takes precedence over everything.
As to the number of Beagles in "Hawaiian
Holiday", I took Scrooge's reference to mean there
were AT LEAST 30 on the island. He claims to have
washed dishes for that many (which is an unusual
number to cite, if what you mean is "many"), but
didn't say all had been present at that meal.
And like I said, 15 different numbers were
legible in that story. All had 176 as the prefix,
but the suffixes were all over the place.
HARRY FLUKS --
If you're constructing dream computers, why be
a piker? MY dream computer has a vacuum cleaner
peripheral that will suck up my entire collection
and put it all on one disk that I can simply put in
a drawer next to my desk. When I want an item from it,
I simply put the disk in the machine, tell it what I
want with a simple keyboard command, and out it comes
-- pulp paper aroma and all.
BOB KASS --
The Stork brings them. This fact is clearly seen
in the opening sequence of DUMBO.
Quack, Don=
Rob Gibson
Beagle boys
Message 270 -
1998-07-24 at 19:50:09
Isn't it true that the BB's, in several stories, refer to "dear old
dad" in prison? If they all have the same dad( perhaps the same mom,
since they look so much alike ), and they were born individually rather
than in litters, and their mom had a normal (human) period of fertility
in her life( say thirty five years ), and they had one child/puppy a
year, then that would yield a total of around thirty five beagle boys,
give or take.
Of course, if one excludes these assumptions, it all goes out the
window.
dad" in prison? If they all have the same dad( perhaps the same mom,
since they look so much alike ), and they were born individually rather
than in litters, and their mom had a normal (human) period of fertility
in her life( say thirty five years ), and they had one child/puppy a
year, then that would yield a total of around thirty five beagle boys,
give or take.
Of course, if one excludes these assumptions, it all goes out the
window.