Hi Everybody
I was in Germany yesterday, where I bought some Disney Comics.
That resulted in my danish Don Rosa-collection now being completed,
with the help of to german publishings (an album, and a socald TGD
(Tollsten Gesschichten (best stories) mit DD). I also found a collection
of four comics with many CB-comics that I didn't have. BUT I didn't find
what I was mainly looking for (sorry Don :-)): A book called Who's who in
Entenhausen (that is: Duckburg), and to new volumes of the german
Barks Library. And the book shop couldn't even order these 3. Now my
question is: Have any of you read one or more of the following Barks -
stories, and would you mind telling the others and me about it: WDC 275 -
Zero Hero, WDC 278 - Have Gun, Will Dance or WDC 281 - Feud and
Far Between?
The other book was about subsidary (not main-figures!) figures in mainly
Barks-stories, do any of you have this book, how big is it, and what was
the price. That must be all for know, thank you
(Email removed)
Anders Christian Sivebaek
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Anders Chr. Sivebæk
Germany and WDC
Message 61 -
1998-07-10 at 01:21:17
Dirk Djuga
Germany and WDC
Message 62 -
1998-07-10 at 02:54:35
Hi Anders,
Try this for info on "Who's Who in Entenhausen"
http://www.kno.de/kod-bin/isuche.exe?lang=deutsch&dbname=Buchkatalog&uid=KNO-10071998-01285700&Aktion=Start&Location=Profisuche
search for "Who's who in Entenhausen" as the "Titel"
This is the database of the supplier where most German book shops get
their books from. They could have gotten it the next day, go to another
book shop next time :)
I don't have the book myself, I'm not into secondary literature ;o)
PS: I just saw they even have the covers scanned for most of the Barks
library and other Ehapa publications :))
cU
--
Dirk Djuga mailto:(Email removed)
http://djuga.home.ml.org
Try this for info on "Who's Who in Entenhausen"
http://www.kno.de/kod-bin/isuche.exe?lang=deutsch&dbname=Buchkatalog&uid=KNO-10071998-01285700&Aktion=Start&Location=Profisuche
search for "Who's who in Entenhausen" as the "Titel"
This is the database of the supplier where most German book shops get
their books from. They could have gotten it the next day, go to another
book shop next time :)
I don't have the book myself, I'm not into secondary literature ;o)
PS: I just saw they even have the covers scanned for most of the Barks
library and other Ehapa publications :))
cU
--
Dirk Djuga mailto:(Email removed)
http://djuga.home.ml.org
Jørgen Andreas Bangor
Donald Duck & Co #27 1996
Message 63 -
1998-07-10 at 03:01:15
Hello, everybody!
It's been some time since I last dropped in, but this place still seems
pretty familiar, fortunately :-)
I told Daniel some time ago that I would probably get some time again
to "contribute" to the list, but I was wrong (sorry, Daniel). At the
time I disappeared a couple of years ago, I did not intend to disappear
at all, but how often does things go as planned...?
The reason, anyway, includes a couple of old steam ships, and...
Maybe I'll tell the hole story some time.
Anyway, tomorrow I'm leaving Oslo, and will be gone for five weeks,
on a trip with one of the above mentioned ships, the 90 year old
S/S Boroysund - a combined passenger and cargo ship. She's coal fired
(Scottish smoke tube boiler), and has a triple expansion engine. A very
big ship, she's not (108 feet), but she is very charming.
Her 90 year anniversary will be celebrated on this trip along the coast,
which will end up in her old area, the Lofoten and Vesteraalen, in the
northern part of Norway. The crew (of which I am a member) consists
solely of volunteers.
Well, enoough of that. Since I now know that I will be gone for a while,
I thought I would send a little message to the list first, and, although
I haven't even had time to read the weekly Duck magazine as regularly
as I would like to, I fortunately picked up last week's issue.
It's a 96 pages issue, with "summer extra" pages, and one of the "extra"
stories is a story I have wanted to read since I was 5 years old, which
is 22 years ago now, but haven't seen until I picked up this magazine.
The database seems to be down at the moment, so I can't find the
original title, but I would guess it's something like "Mickey Mouse
and the bewitched car" (W/MM 100 B).
In the early 1950's, the now weekly Donald Duck & Co was a monthly
magazine. In addition there was a monthly special magazine, with a
title something like "Walt Disney presents", and what he presented.
Usually he presented long stories, like "Snowwhite and the seven dvarfs",
"Peter Pan", "Mickey Mouse in the wild West" etc. And also this story
about the bewitched car. I found an ad for this one in one my dad's
old DD&Co, and wanted to read the story, which I now at last got the
chance to do. And fortunately I wasn't disappointed. Quite an interesting
story.
And, there was more in this issue. It opens with a story drawn by my
favourite artist, Marco Rota. My favourite Rota theme it is also, since
it is about this Kaledonian warlord (or something like that), who
probably is some distant ancestor of the not unknown Donald Duck. He
seems to change his name about every time he shows up here, but I
recognize him ;-) The last name (Donald Mc Wild Duck) is a good one,
though.
And, as if that wasn't enough, the story is written by David Gerstein,
who's name I seem to recognize too. I'm impressed, David! Now I see
that you can write good scripts without having to rely on Barks.
A very enjoyable story, indeed. I also see that you have included
remarks to earlier stories about this Duck, and a few similarities
with Asterix stories, something that makes it even funnier to read.
I do not mean that this story is dependent on these remarks, though
- it stands very well on it's own.
The art is truly enjoyable too. The landscapes, the details - everything!
Rota must have done some good research here. For once, not all the
vikings have horns on their helmets, which the real ones didn't. And
that small wagon which was found in the Oseberg ship (a viking ship
from about 800, now restored and situated in Oslo), looks good in one
of the backgrounds.
And else
There is a story drawn by Mau Heymans here (H 9488, 12 pages). It's
about Donald having a car accident, and waking up 30 years later in
a hospital. The world has changed quite a bit in the meantime.
I guess this story is written to a certain Duck's 60 year anniversary
- and a good one it is. It's interesting to see the differences and
similarities between this one and Don Rosa's story, written to the
same anniversary.
Then, there is a story here (W/O.S. 1161 A, 8 pages), which the
magazine claims is written and drawn by Carl Barks. It is certainly
drawn by him, but isn't this one of the "Grandma's farm friends" (or
something) to which he only made the art?
And, hey! Another story by David G! This confirms my suspicion that
David likes old Grimm tales ;-)
Not a very remarkable story, I think, but funny enough. A good thing,
though, David, that you give the young Duck girls a bigger role than
just being silly counterparts to HD&L.
There are also a few one pagers, and a couple of other stories here,
but nothing special, really. The Gyro story is not bad, but not very
original.
Is that what I call a "little message"? Just wait for... ;-)
Anyway, hello, and good by. Have a nice summer. I'll be back.
Jorgen
It's been some time since I last dropped in, but this place still seems
pretty familiar, fortunately :-)
I told Daniel some time ago that I would probably get some time again
to "contribute" to the list, but I was wrong (sorry, Daniel). At the
time I disappeared a couple of years ago, I did not intend to disappear
at all, but how often does things go as planned...?
The reason, anyway, includes a couple of old steam ships, and...
Maybe I'll tell the hole story some time.
Anyway, tomorrow I'm leaving Oslo, and will be gone for five weeks,
on a trip with one of the above mentioned ships, the 90 year old
S/S Boroysund - a combined passenger and cargo ship. She's coal fired
(Scottish smoke tube boiler), and has a triple expansion engine. A very
big ship, she's not (108 feet), but she is very charming.
Her 90 year anniversary will be celebrated on this trip along the coast,
which will end up in her old area, the Lofoten and Vesteraalen, in the
northern part of Norway. The crew (of which I am a member) consists
solely of volunteers.
Well, enoough of that. Since I now know that I will be gone for a while,
I thought I would send a little message to the list first, and, although
I haven't even had time to read the weekly Duck magazine as regularly
as I would like to, I fortunately picked up last week's issue.
It's a 96 pages issue, with "summer extra" pages, and one of the "extra"
stories is a story I have wanted to read since I was 5 years old, which
is 22 years ago now, but haven't seen until I picked up this magazine.
The database seems to be down at the moment, so I can't find the
original title, but I would guess it's something like "Mickey Mouse
and the bewitched car" (W/MM 100 B).
In the early 1950's, the now weekly Donald Duck & Co was a monthly
magazine. In addition there was a monthly special magazine, with a
title something like "Walt Disney presents", and what he presented.
Usually he presented long stories, like "Snowwhite and the seven dvarfs",
"Peter Pan", "Mickey Mouse in the wild West" etc. And also this story
about the bewitched car. I found an ad for this one in one my dad's
old DD&Co, and wanted to read the story, which I now at last got the
chance to do. And fortunately I wasn't disappointed. Quite an interesting
story.
And, there was more in this issue. It opens with a story drawn by my
favourite artist, Marco Rota. My favourite Rota theme it is also, since
it is about this Kaledonian warlord (or something like that), who
probably is some distant ancestor of the not unknown Donald Duck. He
seems to change his name about every time he shows up here, but I
recognize him ;-) The last name (Donald Mc Wild Duck) is a good one,
though.
And, as if that wasn't enough, the story is written by David Gerstein,
who's name I seem to recognize too. I'm impressed, David! Now I see
that you can write good scripts without having to rely on Barks.
A very enjoyable story, indeed. I also see that you have included
remarks to earlier stories about this Duck, and a few similarities
with Asterix stories, something that makes it even funnier to read.
I do not mean that this story is dependent on these remarks, though
- it stands very well on it's own.
The art is truly enjoyable too. The landscapes, the details - everything!
Rota must have done some good research here. For once, not all the
vikings have horns on their helmets, which the real ones didn't. And
that small wagon which was found in the Oseberg ship (a viking ship
from about 800, now restored and situated in Oslo), looks good in one
of the backgrounds.
And else
There is a story drawn by Mau Heymans here (H 9488, 12 pages). It's
about Donald having a car accident, and waking up 30 years later in
a hospital. The world has changed quite a bit in the meantime.
I guess this story is written to a certain Duck's 60 year anniversary
- and a good one it is. It's interesting to see the differences and
similarities between this one and Don Rosa's story, written to the
same anniversary.
Then, there is a story here (W/O.S. 1161 A, 8 pages), which the
magazine claims is written and drawn by Carl Barks. It is certainly
drawn by him, but isn't this one of the "Grandma's farm friends" (or
something) to which he only made the art?
And, hey! Another story by David G! This confirms my suspicion that
David likes old Grimm tales ;-)
Not a very remarkable story, I think, but funny enough. A good thing,
though, David, that you give the young Duck girls a bigger role than
just being silly counterparts to HD&L.
There are also a few one pagers, and a couple of other stories here,
but nothing special, really. The Gyro story is not bad, but not very
original.
Is that what I call a "little message"? Just wait for... ;-)
Anyway, hello, and good by. Have a nice summer. I'll be back.
Jorgen
Frank Fabian
Who's who?
Message 64 -
1998-07-10 at 08:05:13
ANDERS SIVEBÄK:
> BUT I didn't find what I was mainly looking for (sorry Don :-)): A book
>called Who's who in Entenhausen (that is: Duckburg), and to new volumes of
the german
>Barks Library. And the book shop couldn't even order these 3.
Funny bookshop: all of these are regularly available in the German book trade.
>The other book was about subsidary (not main-figures!) figures in mainly
>Barks-stories, do any of you have this book, how big is it, and what was
>the price. That must be all for know, thank you
The book is in Quart-Format (album size) and has 210 pages. The price of
the hard-bound version is DM 59.- There also is a soft-bound version for
DM 39.80.
The author is Johnny Grote; publisher is Ehapa Verlag in Stuttgart. The
ISBN for the soft version is 3-7704-2060-8; for the hardcover
3-7704-2061-6. Any decent bookshop should be able to order them with this
information.
Best regards, Frank
> BUT I didn't find what I was mainly looking for (sorry Don :-)): A book
>called Who's who in Entenhausen (that is: Duckburg), and to new volumes of
the german
>Barks Library. And the book shop couldn't even order these 3.
Funny bookshop: all of these are regularly available in the German book trade.
>The other book was about subsidary (not main-figures!) figures in mainly
>Barks-stories, do any of you have this book, how big is it, and what was
>the price. That must be all for know, thank you
The book is in Quart-Format (album size) and has 210 pages. The price of
the hard-bound version is DM 59.- There also is a soft-bound version for
DM 39.80.
The author is Johnny Grote; publisher is Ehapa Verlag in Stuttgart. The
ISBN for the soft version is 3-7704-2060-8; for the hardcover
3-7704-2061-6. Any decent bookshop should be able to order them with this
information.
Best regards, Frank
Ben, Kris & Ross
Disney comics Digest V98 #160
Message 65 -
1998-07-10 at 08:06:06
greetings, all!
i have heard mention of Picsou magazine and viewed some of the covers (wow) on the
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8024/ website. i hope i am not out of bounds here,
but i was wondering if anyone could help me to subscribe to the magazine, either
directly or through a subscription service (the cheaper the better). i am in texas,
usa and if anyone has help on this topic, i would be most grateful. if you prefer,
you can email me privately.
thanks, ross
(Email removed)
i have heard mention of Picsou magazine and viewed some of the covers (wow) on the
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8024/ website. i hope i am not out of bounds here,
but i was wondering if anyone could help me to subscribe to the magazine, either
directly or through a subscription service (the cheaper the better). i am in texas,
usa and if anyone has help on this topic, i would be most grateful. if you prefer,
you can email me privately.
thanks, ross
(Email removed)
Birte & Kresten Scheel
Disney comics Digest V98 #160/Steffen Kronborg
Message 66 -
1998-07-10 at 10:11:08
Hi everybody
Harry wrote:
<< Anders: Hello Harry and the others
Welcome. You'll find out that "the others" are about 200 people from
allover the world...
> I just read an article from 1996 written by a danish donaldist,
Steffen Kronborg, I hope you've heard of him.
I haven't. I only know a few Danes.>>
For your information I can tell you that Steffen Kronborg is a famous
"Barksist" here. He has written several books and articles about
comics, his two Carl Barks books are:
"Carl Barks Andalyser. En Andtologi" (1986) and
"Andre Andalyser. En ny Andtologi" (1988).
Both books are very interesting.
Kind regards
Birte Scheel
Denmark
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Harry wrote:
<< Anders: Hello Harry and the others
Welcome. You'll find out that "the others" are about 200 people from
allover the world...
> I just read an article from 1996 written by a danish donaldist,
Steffen Kronborg, I hope you've heard of him.
I haven't. I only know a few Danes.>>
For your information I can tell you that Steffen Kronborg is a famous
"Barksist" here. He has written several books and articles about
comics, his two Carl Barks books are:
"Carl Barks Andalyser. En Andtologi" (1986) and
"Andre Andalyser. En ny Andtologi" (1988).
Both books are very interesting.
Kind regards
Birte Scheel
Denmark
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Misha
WDC 137
Message 67 -
1998-07-10 at 11:23:10
<Harry wrote on WDC 137:>
>I think the name of the song was "De droevige cowboy", but I'm not sure.
Actually, the name was "De Rampzalige Cowboy", which would roughly translate
as "The Disastrous Cowboy".
>The Dutch text (which I *do* remember well) was:
>
>Is eenmaal mijn stervensuur daar,
>(Once when it's my dying hour)
>Leg dan mijn trouwe gitaar,
>(Put my loyal guitar)
>Met een dahlia op mijn graf.
>(With a dahlia [flower] on my grave)
Well whaddayaknow, I also happen to know these lines verbatim by heart!
It's one of those little gems I first read when I was seven or so, and still
remember today.
Bye!
Misha
>I think the name of the song was "De droevige cowboy", but I'm not sure.
Actually, the name was "De Rampzalige Cowboy", which would roughly translate
as "The Disastrous Cowboy".
>The Dutch text (which I *do* remember well) was:
>
>Is eenmaal mijn stervensuur daar,
>(Once when it's my dying hour)
>Leg dan mijn trouwe gitaar,
>(Put my loyal guitar)
>Met een dahlia op mijn graf.
>(With a dahlia [flower] on my grave)
Well whaddayaknow, I also happen to know these lines verbatim by heart!
It's one of those little gems I first read when I was seven or so, and still
remember today.
Bye!
Misha
Juhana K Kouhia
The Screaming Cowboy
Message 68 -
1998-07-10 at 11:43:56
>From: "Fluks, H.W." <(Email removed)>
>
>> In Denmark we call the song and the story the "Sobbing Sailor", I wonder
>> what it's called in Holland, Sweden and Norway?
In Finland it is "Sobbing Sailor" too.
"And give me a grave on the bottom of the sea
when goblin of the old ageness makes my blood stiff"
(What a horror story!!)
In Finland, among the academic translation people, the translation is
what I call a modificative translation, i.e., the meaning, feelings etc.
of the text are modified. Current trend among the academic translators
is that they regard more higher the translations which modify the text.
It is something marvelous when a translator contributes her ideas
to the translation. They simply think they are making the text much
richer and better --- never worst.
Children texts (such as Hobbit and Alice in Wonderland) are made more
childish than the originals just because they think the text need
to be childish.
I have never read Donald Duck as english version but my feeling is
that the text is not that childish. Good if true. However, most of
the Carl Barks stories were translated at '50. At that time comics
were only children stuff.
But, the people at DD editorial office has theirself said that at '70
they had often to rewrote the texts more better (quote: "some of the
stories were so bad that we had to make up the story on our own").
Now back to Screaming Cowboy: it looks like finnish version was roughly
translated from danish version, not from the original. This is a sad trend.
Juhana
>
>> In Denmark we call the song and the story the "Sobbing Sailor", I wonder
>> what it's called in Holland, Sweden and Norway?
In Finland it is "Sobbing Sailor" too.
"And give me a grave on the bottom of the sea
when goblin of the old ageness makes my blood stiff"
(What a horror story!!)
In Finland, among the academic translation people, the translation is
what I call a modificative translation, i.e., the meaning, feelings etc.
of the text are modified. Current trend among the academic translators
is that they regard more higher the translations which modify the text.
It is something marvelous when a translator contributes her ideas
to the translation. They simply think they are making the text much
richer and better --- never worst.
Children texts (such as Hobbit and Alice in Wonderland) are made more
childish than the originals just because they think the text need
to be childish.
I have never read Donald Duck as english version but my feeling is
that the text is not that childish. Good if true. However, most of
the Carl Barks stories were translated at '50. At that time comics
were only children stuff.
But, the people at DD editorial office has theirself said that at '70
they had often to rewrote the texts more better (quote: "some of the
stories were so bad that we had to make up the story on our own").
Now back to Screaming Cowboy: it looks like finnish version was roughly
translated from danish version, not from the original. This is a sad trend.
Juhana
Anders Chr. Sivebæk
The screaming Cowboy and the flying Scotsman
Message 69 -
1998-07-10 at 12:03:35
Hello Everybody (Over 200)
Harry, sorry; of course there are thre verses, I could of course say
that I was referring to the four lines in the danish bubble, but those two
last lines don't rhyme, so sorry Harry. What about sweeden and norway,
what arethe three verses upthere?
Another thing, the story some of you were writing about: "The flying
Scotsman", where is that to be found, I think it might have been in
Lustiges Taschenbuch (German Italian-Pocketbook) no. 8. Is that
publication of the story was that, then. Bye for now :-)
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed)
Harry, sorry; of course there are thre verses, I could of course say
that I was referring to the four lines in the danish bubble, but those two
last lines don't rhyme, so sorry Harry. What about sweeden and norway,
what arethe three verses upthere?
Another thing, the story some of you were writing about: "The flying
Scotsman", where is that to be found, I think it might have been in
Lustiges Taschenbuch (German Italian-Pocketbook) no. 8. Is that
publication of the story was that, then. Bye for now :-)
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed)
Fluks, H.W.
The screaming flying Scottish Cowboy (sounds like a Rosa
Message 70 -
1998-07-10 at 13:11:43
Anders (about The Screaming Cowboy):
> Harry, sorry; [...] so sorry Harry.
I'm not sure why you are sorry for anything. You said the Danish version
had 4 lines, and I said the English and Dutch versions had 3 lines. It's
funny that there is a difference.
> "The flying Scotsman", [..] in Lustiges Taschenbuch no. 8.
Yes, that's the one!
--Harry.
>
> Harry, sorry; [...] so sorry Harry.
I'm not sure why you are sorry for anything. You said the Danish version
had 4 lines, and I said the English and Dutch versions had 3 lines. It's
funny that there is a difference.
> "The flying Scotsman", [..] in Lustiges Taschenbuch no. 8.
Yes, that's the one!
--Harry.
>
Lothar Bertsch
Disney comics Digest V98 #160
Message 71 -
1998-07-10 at 18:19:54
unsubscribe
Mike Schneiderath
Rosa´s "Black Knight" out in Germany
Message 72 -
1998-07-10 at 20:27:03
Just for the record and all German Rosa Fans:
This week=B4s Micky Maus Magazin (#28/98) carries the first part of Don
Rosa=B4s Black Knight Story (D97346).=20
The German title is a direct translation of the original title:
Der schwarze Ritter
Bye!
Mike
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Even more than you ever wanted to know about Don Rosa at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8024/index.html
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This week=B4s Micky Maus Magazin (#28/98) carries the first part of Don
Rosa=B4s Black Knight Story (D97346).=20
The German title is a direct translation of the original title:
Der schwarze Ritter
Bye!
Mike
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Visit the D.U.C.K.hunt!=20
Even more than you ever wanted to know about Don Rosa at:
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/8024/index.html
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Bhc
Disney comics Digest V98 #160
Message 73 -
1998-07-10 at 20:38:50
Westfield, bless their hearts, are a good service. I've used them regularly
myself ever since my favorite comics shop, the late, lamented One Book Shop
down in Tempe, AZ, died an undeserved death several years ago.
In the case of US 315, their printed listing leaves out two stories.
Nothing nefarious about it, they just didn't happen to mention them. And
for those who must know, we are publishing "The Flying Scot" as Topolino
174 & 175 did, part one of 29 pages, part two of 20 pages (in US 316).
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End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #161
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myself ever since my favorite comics shop, the late, lamented One Book Shop
down in Tempe, AZ, died an undeserved death several years ago.
In the case of US 315, their printed listing leaves out two stories.
Nothing nefarious about it, they just didn't happen to mention them. And
for those who must know, we are publishing "The Flying Scot" as Topolino
174 & 175 did, part one of 29 pages, part two of 20 pages (in US 316).
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #161
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Anders Chr. Sivebæk
The know-it-all mashine and the bird thought reader mashine
Message 74 -
1998-07-10 at 20:54:35
I just re-read a little masterpiece of a story by Barks with
Gyro Gearloose.It is is called "The Know-It-
All Machine" in the Disney Comics index by Mr. Fluks,
but other people would call it the bird-thougt-reader
mashine. In fact it should be called the ... AND ...
the..., as both mashines are in the story, but the
know-it-all mashine plays the main part. Gyro invented
both mashines and the scene is: In panel 4-5 on page 1,
Gyro asks: "why does that bird sing?" the know-it-all
mashine answers something
like this
Maaske er den sur,
(Maybe it's sad,)
Maaske er den glad,
(maybe it's glad,)
maaske vil den bare sige tak for mad
(maybe it just want's to say thanks for the food)
What are the excact lines in american for this.
In panel 8 on the same page the know-it-all mashine
tells Gyro to sprinkle salt on the birds tale, because
he has to catch it, he will not do that, but little
helper does. And when they have catched the bird
and the translator-mashine has said excactly the
same as in panel 5, Gyro goes insane and sings
like a bird in a tree. Two men pass and wonders
why he is sitting in a tree singing like a bird,
the mashine answers: Yes what does it answer?
(And what do you other people think of the story?)
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed)
Gyro Gearloose.It is is called "The Know-It-
All Machine" in the Disney Comics index by Mr. Fluks,
but other people would call it the bird-thougt-reader
mashine. In fact it should be called the ... AND ...
the..., as both mashines are in the story, but the
know-it-all mashine plays the main part. Gyro invented
both mashines and the scene is: In panel 4-5 on page 1,
Gyro asks: "why does that bird sing?" the know-it-all
mashine answers something
like this
Maaske er den sur,
(Maybe it's sad,)
Maaske er den glad,
(maybe it's glad,)
maaske vil den bare sige tak for mad
(maybe it just want's to say thanks for the food)
What are the excact lines in american for this.
In panel 8 on the same page the know-it-all mashine
tells Gyro to sprinkle salt on the birds tale, because
he has to catch it, he will not do that, but little
helper does. And when they have catched the bird
and the translator-mashine has said excactly the
same as in panel 5, Gyro goes insane and sings
like a bird in a tree. Two men pass and wonders
why he is sitting in a tree singing like a bird,
the mashine answers: Yes what does it answer?
(And what do you other people think of the story?)
Anders Christian Sivebaek
(Email removed)
Stefan Diös
Swedish Screaming-Sighing Cowboy-Sailor
Message 75 -
1998-07-11 at 04:14:40
As to Anders Chr. Sivebaek's inquiry about "The Screaming Cowboy", I feel
compelled (and, as we shall see, uniquely qualified) to add something about
the Swedish version.
The Swedish text is very similar to the Danish (about a sailor rather than a
cowboy), another indication that Swedish and Danish translators over the
years glanced at each other more than they might want to admit. Remarkably,
even when the story was reprinted with new dialog in 1970 (after first
having been published in 1952), the song was still about a sailor. And quite
similar to the older version, too.
Just like in Denmark, the given lyrics are well known by Donaldists of most
generations, even though preferences may vary between the older and newer
text versions. Personally, having grown up around that time, I find the 1970
lyrics closest to my heart. Without reservation, I regard this as the
authentic and correct version of the song. Isn't it natural that Donald, the
song's author, would want to improve on his text for later publication?
In fact, this song has a very special place in Swedish Donaldistic history.
In 1978, while still at high school in Bromma, Stockholm, some young
Donaldists actually set out on an expedition to Duckburg in order to find
the music and the full lyrics to this musical masterpiece. After many heroic
adventures, they became the first known humans to return alive from
Calisota. And indeed, they had been able to retrieve the sought-after
treasure: the complete "Screaming Cowboy"... or rather, "Den suckande
sjomannen", with Donald Duck's own musical score and Swedish lyrics for all
three stanzas.
Shortly thereafter, the ballad was performed in Nya Elementar Senior High
School as a Musical History project. The orchestration included piano,
cornet, guitar, harmonica, and, of course, vocals. According to spectators,
the performance was "very sad, a real tragedy". Quite appropriate, since the
song is nothing if not melancholic.
Soon, the newly founded Donaldist association NAFS(k) adopted "Den suckande
sjomannen" as its national anthem. To this day, it is still sung at
ceremonious occasions within the club, although one should note that we
rarely find an occasion quite so ceremonious as to justify such an
extremity. And we never, never execute the song close to any overhanging
masses of snow.
Music and lyrics were published in NAFS(k)uriren #4 (1978), and I seem to
recall that the lyrics were reprinted in Der Hamburger Donaldist. I hope
they delighted all German Donaldists who could read Swedish; or those who
couldn't.
Let me also reveal the identities of those famous adventurers who hunted
down the fabled treasure back in '78: The incommensurable Greger Nassen
found most of the music, while my own humble self found most of the text.
Without any doubt, this feat will forever remain the single most momentous
and prominent piece of research in Donaldistic history.
That should cover everything anyone needs to know about this subject.
Stefan Dios, H.O.T.A. (Hero Of The Anthem)
Malmo, Sweden
compelled (and, as we shall see, uniquely qualified) to add something about
the Swedish version.
The Swedish text is very similar to the Danish (about a sailor rather than a
cowboy), another indication that Swedish and Danish translators over the
years glanced at each other more than they might want to admit. Remarkably,
even when the story was reprinted with new dialog in 1970 (after first
having been published in 1952), the song was still about a sailor. And quite
similar to the older version, too.
Just like in Denmark, the given lyrics are well known by Donaldists of most
generations, even though preferences may vary between the older and newer
text versions. Personally, having grown up around that time, I find the 1970
lyrics closest to my heart. Without reservation, I regard this as the
authentic and correct version of the song. Isn't it natural that Donald, the
song's author, would want to improve on his text for later publication?
In fact, this song has a very special place in Swedish Donaldistic history.
In 1978, while still at high school in Bromma, Stockholm, some young
Donaldists actually set out on an expedition to Duckburg in order to find
the music and the full lyrics to this musical masterpiece. After many heroic
adventures, they became the first known humans to return alive from
Calisota. And indeed, they had been able to retrieve the sought-after
treasure: the complete "Screaming Cowboy"... or rather, "Den suckande
sjomannen", with Donald Duck's own musical score and Swedish lyrics for all
three stanzas.
Shortly thereafter, the ballad was performed in Nya Elementar Senior High
School as a Musical History project. The orchestration included piano,
cornet, guitar, harmonica, and, of course, vocals. According to spectators,
the performance was "very sad, a real tragedy". Quite appropriate, since the
song is nothing if not melancholic.
Soon, the newly founded Donaldist association NAFS(k) adopted "Den suckande
sjomannen" as its national anthem. To this day, it is still sung at
ceremonious occasions within the club, although one should note that we
rarely find an occasion quite so ceremonious as to justify such an
extremity. And we never, never execute the song close to any overhanging
masses of snow.
Music and lyrics were published in NAFS(k)uriren #4 (1978), and I seem to
recall that the lyrics were reprinted in Der Hamburger Donaldist. I hope
they delighted all German Donaldists who could read Swedish; or those who
couldn't.
Let me also reveal the identities of those famous adventurers who hunted
down the fabled treasure back in '78: The incommensurable Greger Nassen
found most of the music, while my own humble self found most of the text.
Without any doubt, this feat will forever remain the single most momentous
and prominent piece of research in Donaldistic history.
That should cover everything anyone needs to know about this subject.
Stefan Dios, H.O.T.A. (Hero Of The Anthem)
Malmo, Sweden