CLAUDIA REGE CAMBRIN:
> >http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/scroogegirls.gif
> Nice picture, but I'm afraid I need some help on some of the characters
> portrayed.
>
> 1- The young female duck with a big pink ribbon that looks very much like
> AMJ but of course is not one of them (she's in front of the picture, on the
> right), is she from the DuckTales series, or am I wrong?
Webby (Webbigail Vanderquack) Mrs. Beakley's young granddaughter fromDuckTales who lives in the McDuck Manor
along with Huey, Dewey & Louie.
> 2- Who is the one on the right, with blue jacket, red hair, yellow ribbon,
> and glasses?
Gloria, Fethry's hippy girlfriend.
> 3- And the one on her left, with pink gown, red lipstick and curlers on her
> head?
Mrs. Crackshell (a.k.a. "Ma'ma") Fenton Crackshell (a.k.a. Gizmoduck)'smother. She had two prominent
DuckTales episodes dealing with U$. In
one she took him in when he was suffering from amnesia (and lost his
Brogue accent), and the second when she was zapped by electricity and
temporarily gained the power to foresee the future (he paided her to
give him financial advice). Usually she's just a trailerpark TV addict.
> 4- Who the one above Ms Quackfaster, with black hair?
Princess Oona, a cave duck from the prehistoric past who stowed awayaboad Gyro's timeship and now resides in
the Duckburg of the present.
She had a crush on Donald and lkes to sleep in Bolivar's doghouse. She's
been in at least 3 stories, but I'm really not sure if she has encountered
Scrooge now that I think more about it. (In some ways Bubba Duck's
tale parallels hers).
> 5- And the blonde one between her and Madam Mim?
Gandra Dee, also from DuckTales. She's Fenton Crackshell's girlfriendwho has worked as a receptionist in
Scrooge's Bean Factory (before it
blew up), and temporarily as a spokesmodel in commercials for a gum
Scrooge promoted which made folks float.
> 6- About the young witch in the top-left corner, I remember her from some
> old stories from my childhood, but I know little about her (her Italian
> name was Streghella or something like that). I would be grateful if anyone
> could tell me more about this character which I used to like as a girl.
> What's her name (both original and in translations), who made her, etc. If
> I remember well, she was Magica de Spell's niece.
Minima de Spell is her English name, while Nocina was one of her Italiannames. In America her physical
appearance was even changed to resemble
Magica's (black hair, etc.).
Author
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Rich Bellacera
SCROOGETTES
Message 286 -
1998-07-25 at 18:36:41
Rich Bellacera
Duck eggs vs. "DUCK" eggs
Message 287 -
1998-07-25 at 19:03:00
I believe the question concerned whether anthropomorphic ducks were
"born" like mammals, or "hatched" like regular ducks. I guess the real
answer is that they are "hatched" like mammals, at least like
platypuses.
As I recall, in both the cartoon and the comic book version of the same,
called "The is Your Life, Donald Duck" it tells the story of how Donald
was raised by Grandma Duck on her farm. In the earliest scenes Donald
is shown hatching from a large egg. If this story is considered canon
then I think we can take it for granted that all of the members of the
Duck Family were probably "hatched" in the same manner. This appears
to be the same case with anthropomorphic Chickens since Clara Cluck
was originally depicted as a "laying hen" who had a clutch of her own.
"born" like mammals, or "hatched" like regular ducks. I guess the real
answer is that they are "hatched" like mammals, at least like
platypuses.
As I recall, in both the cartoon and the comic book version of the same,
called "The is Your Life, Donald Duck" it tells the story of how Donald
was raised by Grandma Duck on her farm. In the earliest scenes Donald
is shown hatching from a large egg. If this story is considered canon
then I think we can take it for granted that all of the members of the
Duck Family were probably "hatched" in the same manner. This appears
to be the same case with anthropomorphic Chickens since Clara Cluck
was originally depicted as a "laying hen" who had a clutch of her own.
Rich Bellacera
How Much is the Beagle Baby in the Window?
Message 288 -
1998-07-25 at 19:55:34
<HTML>
ROB GIBSON:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Isn't it true that the BB's, in several stories,
refer to "dear old
dad" in prison? If they all have the same dad( perhaps the same mom,
since they look so much alike ), and they were born individually rather
than in litters, and their mom had a normal (human) period of fertility
in her life( say thirty five years ), and they had one child/puppy
a
year, then that would yield a total of around thirty five beagle boys,
give or take.</BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, if you accept some of the lore from DuckTales, and the Murry (?)
BB tales written in the 60s and 70s then it's my understanding the
the
"old Beagle" in prison that the boys revere is actually "Grandpa Beagle"
(a.k.a. "G-176"), whom some compare to Blackheart Beagle, and serves
as the Beagle Clan's Patriarch. As far as I know no "Pa Beagle"
has ever
been presented in any Beagle related tales, but according to the
DuckTales storyline, Ma Beagle is the Clan's *real* Ma or at least
*figurative* Mother, and serves as the Clan's Matriarch. For
photographic evidence of their comparative ages, check out this old
B&W held by Ma Beagle of her, um, litter of pupboys: <A HREF="http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/scroogegirls.gif">http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/BBbabys.gif</A>
I'm not sure if you can count 35 among them, but there are definitely
a great many. As for tales from the Beagle Boys' own comics
Grandma
Beagle and Auntie Beagle appeared frequently as Matriarchs also.
For more check out:
<A HREF="http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/beagle.html">http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/beagle.html</A></HTML>
ROB GIBSON:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Isn't it true that the BB's, in several stories,
refer to "dear old
dad" in prison? If they all have the same dad( perhaps the same mom,
since they look so much alike ), and they were born individually rather
than in litters, and their mom had a normal (human) period of fertility
in her life( say thirty five years ), and they had one child/puppy
a
year, then that would yield a total of around thirty five beagle boys,
give or take.</BLOCKQUOTE>
Well, if you accept some of the lore from DuckTales, and the Murry (?)
BB tales written in the 60s and 70s then it's my understanding the
the
"old Beagle" in prison that the boys revere is actually "Grandpa Beagle"
(a.k.a. "G-176"), whom some compare to Blackheart Beagle, and serves
as the Beagle Clan's Patriarch. As far as I know no "Pa Beagle"
has ever
been presented in any Beagle related tales, but according to the
DuckTales storyline, Ma Beagle is the Clan's *real* Ma or at least
*figurative* Mother, and serves as the Clan's Matriarch. For
photographic evidence of their comparative ages, check out this old
B&W held by Ma Beagle of her, um, litter of pupboys: <A HREF="http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/scroogegirls.gif">http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/BBbabys.gif</A>
I'm not sure if you can count 35 among them, but there are definitely
a great many. As for tales from the Beagle Boys' own comics
Grandma
Beagle and Auntie Beagle appeared frequently as Matriarchs also.
For more check out:
<A HREF="http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/beagle.html">http://www.jps.net/xephyr/rich/dzone/hoozoo/beagle.html</A></HTML>
Francois Willot
My Mistake
Message 289 -
1998-07-25 at 20:09:35
>> No, Money Quack (the Italian original name ;-) is a business-woman
>> (like $crooge in Italian stories), who appeared in a few stories made
>> for "Topolino".
>
>I tried looking through past mailouts of the List for the listed info
>on MissPenny Wise and Money Quack, but to no avail. ould someone
>kindly recap who these two are and where an American might find them in
>an U$ tale? Perhaps in an Italian comic? (I have a few).
I was wrong in my last mail, in fact $crooge's girlfriend original name
is not Money Quack, but "Molly MacGold" (it's still an English name).
She is tall, blond, and a business woman as I said. She met Scrooge when
he was young and not yet rich (a bit like Goldie).
She appeared in I TL 1746-A ("Il Grande Amore di Paperone", I only know
the French reprint in MP 147) which was drawn and written by Cavazzano
and Concina according to the database.
I doubt that she ever appeared in a comic-book in the US.
As for Money Quack, this name sounds familiar, but maybe it's only
because of the similarity with O.K. Quack.
>I may have been a tad presumptious by adding Princess Oona to the cast
I didn't read all the stories where Princess Oona appeared, but I'd say
that she is more a "Donaldette" than a "Scroogette"...
Francois
>> (like $crooge in Italian stories), who appeared in a few stories made
>> for "Topolino".
>
>I tried looking through past mailouts of the List for the listed info
>on MissPenny Wise and Money Quack, but to no avail. ould someone
>kindly recap who these two are and where an American might find them in
>an U$ tale? Perhaps in an Italian comic? (I have a few).
I was wrong in my last mail, in fact $crooge's girlfriend original name
is not Money Quack, but "Molly MacGold" (it's still an English name).
She is tall, blond, and a business woman as I said. She met Scrooge when
he was young and not yet rich (a bit like Goldie).
She appeared in I TL 1746-A ("Il Grande Amore di Paperone", I only know
the French reprint in MP 147) which was drawn and written by Cavazzano
and Concina according to the database.
I doubt that she ever appeared in a comic-book in the US.
As for Money Quack, this name sounds familiar, but maybe it's only
because of the similarity with O.K. Quack.
>I may have been a tad presumptious by adding Princess Oona to the cast
I didn't read all the stories where Princess Oona appeared, but I'd say
that she is more a "Donaldette" than a "Scroogette"...
Francois
Rich Bellacera
Li'l Bear Twins & Emil Eagle's Nephew
Message 290 -
1998-07-25 at 21:18:01
<HTML>
O.K. with the recent flurry of discussion about Big Bad and
Li'l Bad Wolf, I have a related question. In the latest issue
of Walt Disney Comics #627 the tale deals with a visit from
Zeke's brother Zeb (whom I believe is Cousin Izzy's father,
right?). Anyhow, among the guest stars are Brer Bear's own
clan. I'm having trouble determining the names of the
Li'l Bear Twins. Way back in 1992 a list of names was given
for different characters and someone listed "Kubs & Klibs"
as the twins' names, however I have not been able to find
any reference in an actual comic. Anyone know a source
for these names, or possibly alternative names? I do know
that in one story the twins are a boy and a girl named
Billie & Tillie. Originally presented in WD Giant, "Christmas
in Disneyland" this was a segment of a long tale involving
Santa Claus and two human children, Timmy & Taffy who
learn how Zeke accidentally saves the snow-lost Bear cubs.
This tale was reprinted in Walt Disney Comic Disgest #38.
Anyhow, it's my understanding that the Li'l Bear Twins
are actually both boys, so Billie & Tillie would probably
be a second set of twin children of Brer Bear. This makes
sense in light of WDC&S #356 in the Li'l Bad Wolf tale
where Mrs. Bear had taken her FOUR children to the
store to buy them a pet dog.
Another character I'm seeking a name and source for is
the evil Emil Eagle's own bratty nephew, who looks very
much like a junior version of himself.</HTML>
O.K. with the recent flurry of discussion about Big Bad and
Li'l Bad Wolf, I have a related question. In the latest issue
of Walt Disney Comics #627 the tale deals with a visit from
Zeke's brother Zeb (whom I believe is Cousin Izzy's father,
right?). Anyhow, among the guest stars are Brer Bear's own
clan. I'm having trouble determining the names of the
Li'l Bear Twins. Way back in 1992 a list of names was given
for different characters and someone listed "Kubs & Klibs"
as the twins' names, however I have not been able to find
any reference in an actual comic. Anyone know a source
for these names, or possibly alternative names? I do know
that in one story the twins are a boy and a girl named
Billie & Tillie. Originally presented in WD Giant, "Christmas
in Disneyland" this was a segment of a long tale involving
Santa Claus and two human children, Timmy & Taffy who
learn how Zeke accidentally saves the snow-lost Bear cubs.
This tale was reprinted in Walt Disney Comic Disgest #38.
Anyhow, it's my understanding that the Li'l Bear Twins
are actually both boys, so Billie & Tillie would probably
be a second set of twin children of Brer Bear. This makes
sense in light of WDC&S #356 in the Li'l Bad Wolf tale
where Mrs. Bear had taken her FOUR children to the
store to buy them a pet dog.
Another character I'm seeking a name and source for is
the evil Emil Eagle's own bratty nephew, who looks very
much like a junior version of himself.</HTML>
Esben Kindt
Duck Eggs
Message 291 -
1998-07-25 at 21:36:24
After a prolonged period of lurking, I'll try sticking my head out;
Bob Kass asked:
>My big question is: Would the ducks lay eggs, or give birth live, like
>mammals?
>if the story is not by Barks or Rosa, we should consider it to be
>apocryphal.
In the Barks story "That's No Fable (US 32)" (The one about The Fountain of
Youth), when Donald tries to swim ashore Scrooge stops him saying: "You're
too young Donald. Before you reached the other bank you'd be turned into an
*egg*!"
Later Scrooge, being a slow swimmer explains why he didn't try crossing the
water: "I knew I'd reach the other side an *egg*!"
So the ducks clearly lay eggs.
I don't recall Don Rosa ever mentioning the birth of ducks, though.
Cheers
Esben
Bob Kass asked:
>My big question is: Would the ducks lay eggs, or give birth live, like
>mammals?
>if the story is not by Barks or Rosa, we should consider it to be
>apocryphal.
In the Barks story "That's No Fable (US 32)" (The one about The Fountain of
Youth), when Donald tries to swim ashore Scrooge stops him saying: "You're
too young Donald. Before you reached the other bank you'd be turned into an
*egg*!"
Later Scrooge, being a slow swimmer explains why he didn't try crossing the
water: "I knew I'd reach the other side an *egg*!"
So the ducks clearly lay eggs.
I don't recall Don Rosa ever mentioning the birth of ducks, though.
Cheers
Esben
Cebarat
Disney comics Digest V98 #174
Message 292 -
1998-07-26 at 01:50:12
ANDERS ENGWALL wrote (re the Dell/Gold Key era):
<<I'd say that the real decline came about somewhat later, in
the early seventies. There was some very fine material even
in the latter half of sixties; several of Strobl's 10-pagers
in WDC...are remarkably good and this also
holds for Murry's work...
However, I see hardly any such exceptions from the seventies.
For instance, not only did Western cut down on their own
production around 1969-70 (?), what little that was left got
considerably worse. That includes Murry's work, which in
my opinion got quite infantile during the course of the
70's.>>
I'd stretch the limits of "good stories" a bit to include the first couple of
years of the 70's, at least insofar as Duck stories are concerned. DONALD
DUCK had several good Donald stories from 1970-72: "The Siren's Whistle,"
"Treasure of Hidden Glen," and "Ye Olde Duck's Diary" just to name a few. Of
course, one can balance against this the fact that UNCLE SCROOGE had pretty
much stopped running new Scrooge stories by this time, but the fact remains
that, at least until Strobl quit the title during 1972, there was still some
quality left in the American Duck comics.
I haven't seen enough early-70's Murry stories to evaluate how "infantile" the
stories (as opposed to Murry's artwork) became, but the fact that the serial
format was discontinued in the early 70's would seem to suggest that the
stories were not as popular as they once had been.
ROB GIBSON remarks, concerning the Beagle Boys:
<< Isn't it true that the BB's, in several stories, refer to "dear old
dad" in prison? If they all have the same dad( perhaps the same mom,
since they look so much alike ), and they were born individually rather
than in litters, and their mom had a normal (human) period of fertility
in her life( say thirty five years ), and they had one child/puppy a
year, then that would yield a total of around thirty five beagle boys,
give or take. Of course, if one excludes these assumptions, it all goes out
the
window.>>
Well, Ma Beagle in DUCKTALES couldn't remember the names of all her offspring,
since she had had "more boys than a toad has warts." So I think that all
speculation based on "normal gestation patterns" probably needs to be
defenestrated.
KATIE SULLIVAN put a (?) next to the name of Mrs. Crackshell in the list of
"women in Scrooge's life." You can take away that (?), Katie. Even though
Scrooge was suffering from amnesia when he had his "blue collar romance" with
Mrs. C. in the DUCKTALES episode "Blue Collar Scrooge," he ended the story by
offering to watch soaps with her... suggesting a connection that would extend
into the indefinite future.
Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
<<I'd say that the real decline came about somewhat later, in
the early seventies. There was some very fine material even
in the latter half of sixties; several of Strobl's 10-pagers
in WDC...are remarkably good and this also
holds for Murry's work...
However, I see hardly any such exceptions from the seventies.
For instance, not only did Western cut down on their own
production around 1969-70 (?), what little that was left got
considerably worse. That includes Murry's work, which in
my opinion got quite infantile during the course of the
70's.>>
I'd stretch the limits of "good stories" a bit to include the first couple of
years of the 70's, at least insofar as Duck stories are concerned. DONALD
DUCK had several good Donald stories from 1970-72: "The Siren's Whistle,"
"Treasure of Hidden Glen," and "Ye Olde Duck's Diary" just to name a few. Of
course, one can balance against this the fact that UNCLE SCROOGE had pretty
much stopped running new Scrooge stories by this time, but the fact remains
that, at least until Strobl quit the title during 1972, there was still some
quality left in the American Duck comics.
I haven't seen enough early-70's Murry stories to evaluate how "infantile" the
stories (as opposed to Murry's artwork) became, but the fact that the serial
format was discontinued in the early 70's would seem to suggest that the
stories were not as popular as they once had been.
ROB GIBSON remarks, concerning the Beagle Boys:
<< Isn't it true that the BB's, in several stories, refer to "dear old
dad" in prison? If they all have the same dad( perhaps the same mom,
since they look so much alike ), and they were born individually rather
than in litters, and their mom had a normal (human) period of fertility
in her life( say thirty five years ), and they had one child/puppy a
year, then that would yield a total of around thirty five beagle boys,
give or take. Of course, if one excludes these assumptions, it all goes out
the
window.>>
Well, Ma Beagle in DUCKTALES couldn't remember the names of all her offspring,
since she had had "more boys than a toad has warts." So I think that all
speculation based on "normal gestation patterns" probably needs to be
defenestrated.
KATIE SULLIVAN put a (?) next to the name of Mrs. Crackshell in the list of
"women in Scrooge's life." You can take away that (?), Katie. Even though
Scrooge was suffering from amnesia when he had his "blue collar romance" with
Mrs. C. in the DUCKTALES episode "Blue Collar Scrooge," he ended the story by
offering to watch soaps with her... suggesting a connection that would extend
into the indefinite future.
Christopher E. Barat
(Email removed)
http://members.aol.com/cebarat/home.htm
Paolo Castagno
Werid cross-overs
Message 293 -
1998-07-26 at 12:50:11
Hi,
Anders Engwall:
>Finally, let me just point out what could
>possibly be the weirdest crossover in the
>history of Disney comics: Scamp and
>Super Goof! No - I'm not making this up,
>it really exists. The story is called "Super-Pup"
>and it's in WDC 357. Top that.
And what about a cross-over between the seven
dwarfs, the evil witch from Snow White and Uncle
Scrooge??
It's from Paul Murry, in Mickey Mouse in Fantasyland #1
from 1956. And there is another one too: Donal Duck and
Pinocchio from the same issue!!! BTW they are both two
very funny stories published in Italy on "I Maestri Disney" #9.
DAVID G.
>BTW, don't blame Paul Murry for the behavior of "his"
>mouse. If you've got a gripe, it's with Carl Fallberg, Vic
>Lockman, or Don Christensen. IMHO, Christensen's
>Mickey is much closer to the earlier Mickey, and as a
>result he's my favorite Murry writer.
Well, yes, I'd better start talking about Murry's writers
than about Murry's works in general...
Ciao,
- Paolo (who'll be on holyday next week, see you soon!)
http://www.confor.it:2222/disney
Anders Engwall:
>Finally, let me just point out what could
>possibly be the weirdest crossover in the
>history of Disney comics: Scamp and
>Super Goof! No - I'm not making this up,
>it really exists. The story is called "Super-Pup"
>and it's in WDC 357. Top that.
And what about a cross-over between the seven
dwarfs, the evil witch from Snow White and Uncle
Scrooge??
It's from Paul Murry, in Mickey Mouse in Fantasyland #1
from 1956. And there is another one too: Donal Duck and
Pinocchio from the same issue!!! BTW they are both two
very funny stories published in Italy on "I Maestri Disney" #9.
DAVID G.
>BTW, don't blame Paul Murry for the behavior of "his"
>mouse. If you've got a gripe, it's with Carl Fallberg, Vic
>Lockman, or Don Christensen. IMHO, Christensen's
>Mickey is much closer to the earlier Mickey, and as a
>result he's my favorite Murry writer.
Well, yes, I'd better start talking about Murry's writers
than about Murry's works in general...
Ciao,
- Paolo (who'll be on holyday next week, see you soon!)
http://www.confor.it:2222/disney
Antonio Di Dio
Dumb question
Message 294 -
1998-07-26 at 14:16:46
Hello Disneyphiles!
I was wondering if a list member could help me with a question -
Gerber's Photojournal lists 29 issues of Four Color Donald Ducks ie
9,29,62,108,etc through to 408 and 422 in 1952
The first issue of DD own series in Nov 1952 is #26
Howcum?
In fear of having asked such a dumb opening question......
Best wishes to you all
Antonio Di Dio
Sydney Australia
( I got a MILLION Topolino questions for poor Frank!)
I was wondering if a list member could help me with a question -
Gerber's Photojournal lists 29 issues of Four Color Donald Ducks ie
9,29,62,108,etc through to 408 and 422 in 1952
The first issue of DD own series in Nov 1952 is #26
Howcum?
In fear of having asked such a dumb opening question......
Best wishes to you all
Antonio Di Dio
Sydney Australia
( I got a MILLION Topolino questions for poor Frank!)
Lynneb56
#1 Dime
Message 295 -
1998-07-26 at 19:38:55
>>Katie Quackfaster:
>>>Hi, everyone. I've been looking and searching in every possible way for
>>>ages, and I simply *can't* find the list of Scrooge's girlfriends that
>>>we compiled a few months ago.
>>What about his #1 Dime?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Vidar Svendsen
I would say that the #1 Dime was no girlfriend. He was COMMITTED to it. They
were married.
Lynne in Illinois
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #175
******************************************
>>>Hi, everyone. I've been looking and searching in every possible way for
>>>ages, and I simply *can't* find the list of Scrooge's girlfriends that
>>>we compiled a few months ago.
>>What about his #1 Dime?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Vidar Svendsen
I would say that the #1 Dime was no girlfriend. He was COMMITTED to it. They
were married.
Lynne in Illinois
--------------------------------
End of Disney comics Digest V98 Issue #175
******************************************
Juhana K Kouhia
Critics again
Message 296 -
1998-07-26 at 21:04:30
I really wonder if I'm a negative person, a perfectionist, or is the
situation with Disney comics really this bad.
In Finland the long stories are published mainly in three parts in three
consequent issues. I have always wondered who makes the title panels
for second and third parts if the story is originally published in
one part. I though they move frames to make room for the title panels.
But now I know: they simply placed the extra title panels over the
story removing one to two panels per an extra part. How stupid!
So, I have many CB stories with removed panels. Sad.
Say, a publisher decides to print a book called Hamlet in three parts.
Since he doesn't want add extra pages, he erases two first pages of
each extra part for making room for the titles. Would you buy such book?
Say, Disney decides to print a CB story in three parts. Since they don't
want add extra pages, they erases one or two first panels of each extra
part for making room for the titles. Would you buy such comics?
-*-
One quick question about the panel 1.3 of "The Fabulous Philosopher's
Stone". In older version, US's eyes are normal, but in newest and
complete version they are "mk" as representing money. Are the eyes
dollar signs in the original work?
-*-
About the CB CD-ROM: I didn't mean we make such CD-ROM. I meaned we
could design such CD-ROM i.e. what kind of CD-ROM it should be.
That is, what *we* want, not Disney people.
-*-
I'm really disappointed to find that Disney has sensored many stories.
Even now "Treasure of Marco Polo" has sensored panels: (i) a rope
is erased in the panel where the guy jumps to strangle the guard,
(ii) a text "shows you can't trust these watches from the workers'
paradise!" is changed to "shows you can't trust these cheap watches
made by McDuck enterprises".
Luckily the Finnish translation follows the original text but still
we don't have that rope.
And what about the two last panels of "The Firebug"? Why nobody ask
Carl Barks to redraw the sensored and now missing panels? Well, I do:
"Dear Carl Barks, would you please redraw the last two missing panels
of The Firebug? Yours, Juhana". I actually don't understand why the panels
are sensored: original story teach to children that if you set up fires,
you might end up behind the bars. That is the case indeed.
-*-
I really don't know if reading/collecting Carl Barks stories is a good
entertainment or not. Should this be full of fun and enjoyment? As more
I found about how badly CB stories are treated, the less fun I get from
this.
Yours,
Juhana
situation with Disney comics really this bad.
In Finland the long stories are published mainly in three parts in three
consequent issues. I have always wondered who makes the title panels
for second and third parts if the story is originally published in
one part. I though they move frames to make room for the title panels.
But now I know: they simply placed the extra title panels over the
story removing one to two panels per an extra part. How stupid!
So, I have many CB stories with removed panels. Sad.
Say, a publisher decides to print a book called Hamlet in three parts.
Since he doesn't want add extra pages, he erases two first pages of
each extra part for making room for the titles. Would you buy such book?
Say, Disney decides to print a CB story in three parts. Since they don't
want add extra pages, they erases one or two first panels of each extra
part for making room for the titles. Would you buy such comics?
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One quick question about the panel 1.3 of "The Fabulous Philosopher's
Stone". In older version, US's eyes are normal, but in newest and
complete version they are "mk" as representing money. Are the eyes
dollar signs in the original work?
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About the CB CD-ROM: I didn't mean we make such CD-ROM. I meaned we
could design such CD-ROM i.e. what kind of CD-ROM it should be.
That is, what *we* want, not Disney people.
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I'm really disappointed to find that Disney has sensored many stories.
Even now "Treasure of Marco Polo" has sensored panels: (i) a rope
is erased in the panel where the guy jumps to strangle the guard,
(ii) a text "shows you can't trust these watches from the workers'
paradise!" is changed to "shows you can't trust these cheap watches
made by McDuck enterprises".
Luckily the Finnish translation follows the original text but still
we don't have that rope.
And what about the two last panels of "The Firebug"? Why nobody ask
Carl Barks to redraw the sensored and now missing panels? Well, I do:
"Dear Carl Barks, would you please redraw the last two missing panels
of The Firebug? Yours, Juhana". I actually don't understand why the panels
are sensored: original story teach to children that if you set up fires,
you might end up behind the bars. That is the case indeed.
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I really don't know if reading/collecting Carl Barks stories is a good
entertainment or not. Should this be full of fun and enjoyment? As more
I found about how badly CB stories are treated, the less fun I get from
this.
Yours,
Juhana
RobertK168
Duck Eggs
Message 297 -
1998-07-26 at 22:53:20
TOM MOSS said:
<<In the story about the Fountain of Youth, Huey, Dewey and Louie were trying
to stop Donald from swimming across the Fountain's lagoon. They told him that
he was too young to swim across. They said that he would be an egg before he
got halfway. So Donald, at least, came from an egg.>>
Actually, it was Scrooge who gave the warning in "That's No Fable!" (US 32). I
like to think that by "egg", Scrooge meant "ovum"! Or maybe Scrooge felt that
the Nephews, who were also there, were too young to hear the true "facts of
life". (Now I *know* I'm pushing it, but anything to support the other
view................!)
<<In the story about the Fountain of Youth, Huey, Dewey and Louie were trying
to stop Donald from swimming across the Fountain's lagoon. They told him that
he was too young to swim across. They said that he would be an egg before he
got halfway. So Donald, at least, came from an egg.>>
Actually, it was Scrooge who gave the warning in "That's No Fable!" (US 32). I
like to think that by "egg", Scrooge meant "ovum"! Or maybe Scrooge felt that
the Nephews, who were also there, were too young to hear the true "facts of
life". (Now I *know* I'm pushing it, but anything to support the other
view................!)
Kosarin
Shamrock
Message 298 -
1998-07-27 at 00:25:15
I'm the one who found Shamrock. He's right in front of Gladstone on
the stairway. There's lots of other hidden people too!
the stairway. There's lots of other hidden people too!
Rob Gibson
Whither DD 26?
Message 299 -
1998-07-27 at 00:57:37
I believe DD 26 got it's number because there were 25 Donald Duck One
Shots with Barks drawn adventures prior to that. I've sometimes felt it
should have been 28( denoting 28 Barks drawn stories ), due to the One
Shots with TWO Barks drawn full length adventures( OS 159:"Ghost of the
Grotto" and "Down Under", and OS 263:"Land of the Totems" and "Trail of
the Unicorn" ).
WRT "Dear old dad" Beagle, I would swear I recall a panel with a group
of Beagle Boys around a table, disappointed and defeated, and a picture
of Daddy Beagle( in prison motif ) framed on the wall behind them. It
was an Uncle Scrooge story, perhaps from the sixties. I also recall a
picture of "Governor Bruin", a tongue in cheek reference to the then
Governor of the State of California, Pat Brown( 1958-1966 ). You may
recall he was known for "ending" the career of Richard Nixon in 1962(
"You won't have me to kick around anymore" ) and for losing the
governorship to an actor in 1966. I seem to recall some other political
references in that story.
I haven't read many of these later US stories in quite a while, so my
memory may be a little off. Time for some research.
Shots with Barks drawn adventures prior to that. I've sometimes felt it
should have been 28( denoting 28 Barks drawn stories ), due to the One
Shots with TWO Barks drawn full length adventures( OS 159:"Ghost of the
Grotto" and "Down Under", and OS 263:"Land of the Totems" and "Trail of
the Unicorn" ).
WRT "Dear old dad" Beagle, I would swear I recall a panel with a group
of Beagle Boys around a table, disappointed and defeated, and a picture
of Daddy Beagle( in prison motif ) framed on the wall behind them. It
was an Uncle Scrooge story, perhaps from the sixties. I also recall a
picture of "Governor Bruin", a tongue in cheek reference to the then
Governor of the State of California, Pat Brown( 1958-1966 ). You may
recall he was known for "ending" the career of Richard Nixon in 1962(
"You won't have me to kick around anymore" ) and for losing the
governorship to an actor in 1966. I seem to recall some other political
references in that story.
I haven't read many of these later US stories in quite a while, so my
memory may be a little off. Time for some research.
Www.Conk.Com/world/teme
Hatching eggs
Message 300 -
1998-07-27 at 02:14:58
about eggs:
>In the story about the Fountain of Youth, Huey, Dewey and Louie
>were trying to stop Donald from swimming across the Fountain's lagoon.
>
>They told him that he was too young to swim across. They said that he > would be an egg before he got halfway. So Donald, at least, came from > an egg.
I seem to remember another Donald story about fountain of youth: Donald
decides to spend the summer searching the fountain of youth and drags
HD&L with him. They decide to play joke on Donald by planting three
*eggs* by a fountain leading him to believe that they had reverted back
to eggs. And Donald goes nuts as some other campers eat the eggs. Does
anyone know what story that was and by whom?
And another thing I remember seeing is is some kind of draft made by
Barks conserning relations insede the Duck-family and states that each
person was *hatched*.
Teme of Finland
>In the story about the Fountain of Youth, Huey, Dewey and Louie
>were trying to stop Donald from swimming across the Fountain's lagoon.
>
>They told him that he was too young to swim across. They said that he > would be an egg before he got halfway. So Donald, at least, came from > an egg.
I seem to remember another Donald story about fountain of youth: Donald
decides to spend the summer searching the fountain of youth and drags
HD&L with him. They decide to play joke on Donald by planting three
*eggs* by a fountain leading him to believe that they had reverted back
to eggs. And Donald goes nuts as some other campers eat the eggs. Does
anyone know what story that was and by whom?
And another thing I remember seeing is is some kind of draft made by
Barks conserning relations insede the Duck-family and states that each
person was *hatched*.
Teme of Finland