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Fluks, H.W.
Anders Chr. Sivebaek:

There is really no need to send a CC of all your messages to Per
Starback personally. He is a member of the mailing list.

> I would like to now; when was the Boer War and
> how long was it. Rosa or any other english-talking
> should be able to answer this question.

Probably talking English is not a necessity. There were actually a few
Boer Wars: wars in Southern Africa between the Boers (colonists of Dutch
descent) and the English colonial power. Maybe *the* Boer War was in
1902. At least I remember one Dutch translation where they mentioned "de
Boerenoorlog van 1902". The Dutch probably added "1902" because they
(rightfully) thought that a Dutch child wouldn't know when the Boer War
was...

> It's made by a guy called Victor
> Arriagada. (His name reminds me about the artist
> Vicar, where is he on the creator list, what's his
> real name??).

Vicar is the pseudonym of Victor Jose Arriagada Rios. He must be in the
creator list somewhere...

--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast
Fluks, H.W.
Anders:
> And what does pun mean, ain't that something you eat?!

A pun is a word-joke, or something that is meant to be funny.

>> >green peas???
> Well, I suppose I maybe spelled those little=20
> green things from the garden wrong?
>> (Greenpeace has nothing
>> to do with it!)=20
> Because I certainly was not reffering to that=20
> organisation!

Stefan was making a joke!

>> Subject: Eta Beta (or, as Anders would say, Eega Weega?? 8-)
> I think I smell, some irony here, or I'm just stupid?

I was making a joke! That's what the 8-) is for.
Eta Beta is the nickname of someone on this list. He named himself after
the Italian name of Eega Beeva. And you seem to name that character Eega
Weega, which is quite a funny variation on his English name.

> Well, please give me some answers!

OK:
IMO =3D in my opinion
IMHO =3D in my honest (or humble) opinion
BTW =3D by the way
WDC =3D Walt Disney's Comics and Stories
:-) =3D this is meant to be funny
8-) =3D this is meant to be funny, and I'm wearing glasses.

All these letters and symbols are very common on the internet. Well,
most of them are, anyway.

> Ja, det gjorde jeg, men den er l=E5nt p=E5 biblioteket,=20
> og derfor ikke min

I think you answered a private message from Erik to the mailing list.
Apart from the fact that that's not a polite thing to do, it is of no
use, since less than half of the members of the mailing list can
understand what you're talking about! If you want to reach Erik, try to
contact the postmaster of his site.

--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast
Esben Kindt
Anders Christian wrote:
>
>> BTW, this and other letters like IMHO and
>IMO sometimes appears on
>the list, Some of ud are just ordinary mortals
>so couldn't you just for once tell what you mean by them?
>And what does pun mean, ain't that something you eat?!

These acronyms have been used on usenet and mailinglists for so
long that we sometimes forget that not everyone knows them,
despite the growth of net users. Here are a few of them:

BTW: By the way
IMO: In my oppinion
IMHO: In my humble oppinion
IMNSHO: In my not so humble oppinion
LOL: Laughing out loud
ROFL: Rolling on the floor, laughing

A pun is a wordplay, whereas the thing you eat is a bun.

Cheers
Esben
Fluks, H.W.
RICH XAVIER METCALF BELLACERA XEPHYR ETC.: 8-)

>[Re: Emil Eagle's nephew]
>I only seem to have one tale with him in it, but is
>is from an older Brazilian comic.
>As for a storycode, the older Brazilian comics would only list other titles
>which printed the tale. In this case it lists: W/WDC25 - RZC1077/6
>- AD139/9.
>I doubt that WDC stands for the American version of "Walt Disney
>Comics"

Apparently, it means "WDC Digest". For in WDCD 25, there is a 10-page
story "Minnie and the Witch - The Youth Machine", drawn by Pete
Alvarado.

> a Danish or German tale presenting triplet nephews
> of either Glomgold or Rockerduck.

Here's the database data:

D 6106 32 3 US Rde:Aus Sand gebaut [app:DD,HDL,
| Rockerduck,Rockerduck's nephews Frank
| Patrik & Sam]
| de: DD 295
| dk: OJ84-04
| se: J 84-03

--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast
Rich Bellacera
Hi all,

Sorry for the recent messages with the HTML coding attached.
Since I had just recently upgraded my browser to Netscape
Communicator I guess the option was automatically selected.
I was advised by a fellow List member of the problem and I
found a place where the option was check "By default, send
HTML messages." I have unchecked it. This should take care
of that problem.

I appologize for the inconvenience of the previous messages.
Thanks, Rich.
Juhana K Kouhia
>From: Daniel van Eijmeren <(Email removed)>
>
>I would love to see all the original comics being scanned [ ... ]

I thought this overnight. Even I think it is a better idea to remake
everything for CD-ROM, I'm now convinced that we should also boldly scan
old copies of DD stories. Please let me explane:

Since Disney has the copyrights, we cannot distribute the scanned copies.
But, Carl Barks works will become public domain after 75 years from his
death. If people start scanning the old CB stories then, I'm pretty sure
the old copies are more harder to find than now. We have to do it now even
todays people are not gaining from the project. So, I suggest we scan the
stories and keep them out of public for 75+ years.

I'm not sure if the time is related to death of CB because the works
are owned by Disney. Anyone?

Also, the same applies to works of Don Rosa but it takes much longer
(hopefully much much) to his works to become in public domain.

I'm *very sorry* for talking like this about the deaths of persons who
are alive but we should face the facts. My humble apologies to CB and DR.

What you people think about this kind of project?

Yours,

Juhana
Francois Willot
Daniel:

>> Your explanation of the alteration of "Colossus of the Nile" makes
>> perfect sense to me, but then, my attitude has always been that if
>> you like the original version better, that's okay because it's STILL
>> THERE.
>
>Of course, but what's the use of a comic-book story still existing
>somewhere if no one - or only a few of us - can *reach* it?

Beside that, I think that Gladstone could mention it when they make
important changes in the stories. They can simply say that they don't
like Scarpa's original script and that's why they decide to delete one
page!! Or: "for thechnical reasons, one page is missing". Until now, I
though that the Gladstone version was almost complete (maybe I was very
naive).

Anders wrote:

>It's made by a guy called Victor
>Arriagada. (His name reminds me about the artist
>Vicar, where is he on the creator list, what's his
>real name??)

He's the same artist. He's in the DB as "Victor Arriagada Rios (Vicar)".

Harry:

The "Amundsen's Talisman" story has a title, but it's shown as small
letters before a sort of introduction to the story. So it can be
considered as either D: or T:... Personally, I'd index it as T:.

BTW, I found an error (?) in the database: W DD 61-05 is a 4-pager
story in the French and Swedish publication, but it's indexed as a
5-pager story. In the "Disney Index", the number of pages is also 4.

Regarding Bradbury's stories, I like his DD stories (more than the ones
featuring MM). I have just read two good DD & DA short stories published
in JM (W DD 27 and 50). But I don't know his C'n'D stories. Anyway, it
must be a good artist, since Comic Art is currently publishing hard
cover books containing Bradbury stories only!

Everyone:

Picsou Magazine # 319 reprints the original version of "Cash Flow", for
the first time in France (+ a new illustration drawing of this story by
Don Rosa). It also contains two stories from One-Shot 29 (?), "The
Mummy's Ring", some parts of an article about it in the CBL and "Too
Many Pets". It is only the 2nd time these stories are published in
France!

There's also a drawing illustration of "Mummy's Ring" that Barks drew
(and colored) as a study (?) for an oil-painting (it was published in
the CBL and in Nemo in 1981) as well as some precisions about the last
Picsou issue sent by a certain Prof. Archontis Pantsios...

Francois
Fluks, H.W.
Juhana:
> I suggest we scan the
> stories and keep them out of public for 75+ years.
> What you people think about this kind of project?

In 75 years, *I* will be dead, or 111 years old. I don't think it's
worth the effort to wait that long...

--Harry.
Harry Fluks, Leidschendam, The Netherlands
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4
http://members.xoom.com/bolderbast
Francois Willot
HARRY:

>> BTW. Did the 'Fillians Clup' (it's always misspelled) originate in
>> the WDC-stories or is it a Dutch creation?
>
>The writer of those stories, Patty Klein, once said that she invented
>the Villain Club (Booswichtenclub/Booswigteklup) and the Good Ladies
>Club (with mrs. Schaapkens). She also invented the Pafwang indians, a
>rival tribe of Hiawatha's.

Are you talking about the wood's "villain" club whose members are the
Big Bad Wolf, Brer Bear and other foxs? Actually, I did see one or two
old American stories with this club (published in "Mickey Mouse", I
think).

Francois
HoyMurphy
I just finished filling out the latest order form for Diamond Distributors,
and for the first time in years there was no listing for Gladstone albums,
just the Uncle Scrooge and WDC&S prestige format issues. The Carl Barks
reprints are completed (or solicited), so it seems to me this would have been
the time to solicit the Van Horn Albums. As it was, Gladstone released the 4
Van Horn albums at the same time as some of the Barks albums, and as my
pockets aren't that deep, I had to choose between them. I picked Barks, of
course. Seems to me that now would be the best time for Gladstone to put the
Van Horn albums in the Diamond catalog again as "Offered Again."

I'm leaving West Virginia with my family Saturday for a cross-crounty trip to
the Junior Woodchuck, I mean, National Boy Scout training camp in Philmont,
New Mexico, where my boys are likely to earn a quart of awards. We'll be
passing through Louisville, Kentucky, so if we see Don Rosa cutting his grass
we'll wave as we go by.

--your pal, Hoy
Rich Bellacera
ANDERS:
> Subject: Sv:Donaldismen og Tone

I see your posting was about Minnie's niece and Donaldism,
but since it was in Danish(?) I couldn't understand it :-(
Rich Bellacera
SOEREN:
>Thinking about it again, I came up with a reason for me being
>uncomfortable with ducks from eggs:
>
>only fewest times there are eggs shown as "ducks to hatch",
>and I don't recall any scene showing little ducks escaping
>from the eggshell - that could be compared to giving birth,
or stuff like that - impossible to show in a childrens' comic
:-((

We have at least two comics presenting Donald in an ooidal
state (U$ #32 "That's No Fable" and FC #1109 - Aug. 1960, last
reprinted in Gladstone's "Donald and Mickey" #25 - Sep. 1994).
In both cases Donald was indeed in an eggshell. In "This
is Your Life..." He actually does a violent hatch showing that
he was *irascible* since birth (hatching), [i.e., not a "learned"
trait, but rather his natural state].

As for cartoons, there was the aforementioned DuckTales episode
which retells a version of the "That's No Fable" story, the
episode of "Walt Disney's Wonderful World of Color" from which
the FC #1109 story was based, and I also remember another episode
where Prof. Ludwig von Drake talks about raising teenagers using
Donald and the Nephewsfor his thesis. In this cartoon there
was a scene where Donald takes the Nephews on a camping trip and
the think they've discovered the Fountain of Youth. I can't
recall all the details, but at one stage, one of the Nephews is
assumed to be Donald in a slightly regressed state, and later the
Nephews think that a large egg is their uncle after too much of
the water. Of course the egg turns out to be an (I believe)
alligator egg, but the point of this is to show that even here
the Nephews believed the EGG to be their uncle, showing that this
must be a common state for Duck folks. I'm sure this segment
was actually a DD cartoon which was incorporated into the LvD
special. Anyone recall the actual title of the toon?

JUST FOR FUN:
Here is a scan form the Italian publication "I Classici di Walt
Disney" #93 titled "Happy Birthday Donald Duck"
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/Compleanno.gif
Rich Bellacera
Since most of you were probably wise not to attempt to read
my last posting in it's HTML format I am representing part
of it here again.

DANIEL van EIJMEREN:
>The Penny Wise cover was made years before this story. Even
>as a fantasy both names are only similar by coincidence (IMO).

I would have to agree. The term or phrase "Penny Wise"
dates back, perhaps to Ben Franklin's "Poor Man's Almanac"?
(i.e., "Penny wise and pound foolish."). Penny Wise is a good
name for a $crooge related character. I think it would be fun
to see a family relation of her's named "Pound Foolish."

>> Gloria, Fethry's hippy girlfriend.
>>
>Very funny name for a hippy girlfriend, makes me curious how
>she looks like.

I've posted a picture of her in "both" of her guises (Gloria &
her superhero persona, the Purple Butterfly) at:
http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/gloria2.gif

>Everyone seems to have nephews, nieces, uncles, aunts, and
>the stories often give a lot of freedom in what's possible.

Speaking of which:

DAVID GERSTEIN:
[Re: Emil Eagle's nephew]
>At Egmont, we say his name is Egret Heron, but I have *never*
>seen anything that actually verifies this.

Thank you.
Rich Bellacera
HARRY FLUKS:
> RICH XAVIER METCALF BELLACERA XEPHYR ETC.: 8-)
You forgot "PEGASUS", but I digress.... :-)

[Re: Emil Eagle's nephew]
> Apparently, it means "WDC Digest". For in WDCD 25, there is
> a 10-page story "Minnie and the Witch - The Youth Machine",
> drawn by Pete Alvarado.

By Golly... You're absolutely right! I even have that issue.
Alas Emil only refers to the lad as his "young nephew", so,
at least I now know the lad's name (thanks David).

> > a Danish or German tale presenting triplet nephews
> > of either Glomgold or Rockerduck.
>
> Here's the database data:
>
> D 6106 32 3 US Rde:Aus Sand gebaut [app:DD,HDL,
> | Rockerduck,Rockerduck's nephews Frank
> | Patrik & Sam]
> | de: DD 295
> | dk: OJ84-04
> | se: J 84-03

Thanks Harry! :-)

Does anyone on the LIST have a copy of the above listed comics
from which they could please make a scan or two of Rockerduck's
three nephews for me?
Gerstein, David DK - ECN
>>The writer of those stories, Patty Klein, once said that she invented
>>the Villain Club (Booswichtenclub/Booswigteklup) and the Good Ladies
>>Club (with mrs. Schaapkens).
>
>Are you talking about the wood's "villain" club whose members are the
>Big Bad Wolf, Brer Bear and other foxs? Actually, I did see one or two
>old American stories with this club (published in "Mickey Mouse", I
>think).

That's right. Patty Klein could not have invented this club. It
first appears as the "Foul Fellows' Club" in a 1951 WDC&S, and reappears
quite often over the years. Sometimes it's also known as the
"Badfellows" (i. e. Oddfellows - an *excellent* gag, IMHO).
And besides Brer Fox (who's more often than not club leader) and
Brer Bear (who's less often a member in more recent stories), the club
roll call includes Willy Weasel, Dirty Bill the bulldog, Ricky Rat (a
tiny rat, I kid you not), and some unnamed warthogs, raccoons, and
additional bears.

David Gerstein
<(Email removed)>
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