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Hi all!

Bob Kass wrote:

> My big question is: Would the ducks lay eggs, or give birth live,
like
> mammals?

besides from what we think woulöd be appropiate, there is at least
one story mentioning this.
From rememberings, the story looks like from Vicar and was
published in the German Micky Maus in the mid-80ies in summer.
It's about Donald in a fanatic search of the fountain of youth, and
the kids fooling him with claiming to have found the spring and
bathed in it too long, and laying eggs and their caps onto the
kitchen shelf. Donald wants to breed them, leaves for a doctor, and
when returning, a camping neighbor "borrowed" the eggs to make
an omelet of them, Donald thus thinks the kids are being eaten,
and goes mad when HDL reappear.

I remember I felt uncomfortabel with the story back then and still
do, the Ducks indeed are so much humanized IMO that any direct
link to them coming out of eggs is strange to me.

Soeren

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ETA BETA:

>
>But there's another case, again from Scarpa, where it's easy
>to misspell, "The Goat from ACATAPULCO" (not Acapulco), TL 348,
>29/7/62, and I'm afraid even the DcD goofed, here... ;-)
>

Ooops! And I know well whose fault it is... :-(
I have already corrected my master copy, however, since you (or Paolo?) told
me in private mail; so next version of the DcD will have the correct title!

Marco

Hi,

Stefan:
Re: preface for Danish Golden Books
No. 1: author of the preface not mentioned
No. 2: Stefan Dios
No. 3: I do not have this book
No. 4: author of the preface not mentioned (could be you maybe?)
No. 5: Jon Gisle

Reg.
Birte Scheel

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> From: "Fluks, H.W." <(Email removed)>
> What about miss Penny Wise?

Was she the old dogface in the story with the mutant bread dough? I don't
remember any romantic attachment there. Refresh my memory?

> RE: From: <(Email removed)>
> Subject: duck eggs vs. "Duck" eggs?

I've always wondered about that myself. I have seen some cute pictures of Donald
hatching from an egg from time to time, but nothing from a conclusive source. I
personally like to think of it all happening in a more human way, but...who knows?

> Francois wrote:

> No, Money Quack (the Italian original name ;-) is a business-woman (like
> $crooge in Italian stories), who appeared in a few stories made for
> "Topolino".

Once again I find myself begging for scans. Anyone? Pleeze? Or at least a
description? More info on this character?

> From: Vidar Svendsen <(Email removed)>
> What about his #1 Dime?

LOL. I was thinking girlfriends of the living, breathing kind. :-)

> Rich Bellacera <(Email removed)> ...

Thanks SOOOO much for the awesome pictures! Look for a private e-mail from me for
further comments. :-)

So, the list now reads...

Goldie
Brigitta
Millionaira Vanderbucks
Bella/Belle
Money Quack
Minny Pearl Beauregard
Tilly Billbrook
Mrs. Crackshell (?)

Suggestions, corrections, elaborations and help are still very much appreciated!
:-)

Katie Quackfaster

THE $CROOGETTES & THE BLOT

About KATIE-Q's List of Scrooge's girlfriends:
HARRY FLUKS:

> What about miss Penny Wise?

FRANCOIS WILLOT:

> No, Money Quack (the Italian original name ;-) is a business-woman (like
> $crooge in Italian stories), who appeared in a few stories made for
> "Topolino".

I tried looking through past mailouts of the List for the listed info on
MissPenny Wise and Money Quack, but to no avail. ould someone kindly recap
who these two are and where an American might find them in an U$ tale?
Perhaps in an Italian comic? (I have a few).

VIDAR SVENDSEN:

> What about his #1 Dime?

Ahhh.... Good one. :-)

And Katie... I know I have the episode "'Til Nephews do Us Part" on tape
somewhere, so if I EVER locate it I'll do a screen capture for you. There's
currently another reason I'm seeking it (another Lister informed me
that Gladstone's nephew, Shamrock, makes a cameo appearance).

RICH BELLACERA (hey that's me!):

> I also uploaded a fun picture with many many of the females who have
> attempted some modicum of influence (good or bad) on him over the decades:
> http://www.jps.net/xephyr/scans/scroogegirls.gif

I may have been a tad presumptious by adding Princess Oona to the cast, sinceI've
only really had the good fortune of reading a few selected panels that
were sent to me via e-mail, but I believe everyone there has had run ins with
Scrooge on more than one occassion. Are there any other female characters
Money Quack who also qualify as recurring women in Scrooge's life? Anyone
have any scans with which I can work from?

ETA BETA:

> XAVIER METCALF (Hello Xavier, me good pal ;-)

Oy! I didn't clear my friend's name again before mailing! Sorry folks!

ABOUT ITALIANS RECOGNIZING THE BLOT AS DISNEY HIMSELF:
>Perhaps it's an Italian-thing that this deduction comes easily? :-)

> Dunno, I guess there's enough physical evidence to at least allow
> a suspicion that Gottfredson might have intended to have some fun
> with his boss... :-)

Oh I agree... I was just having fun making notice that it was primarilyItalians
on the List (myself included). Wasn't Daffy Duck & Sylvester
a spoof on the Warners' own Leon Schlessinger's lisp? I think it may
have been pretty common practice for artists/animators to draw their
bosses into their cartoons... along with other inside jokes?

It is well known, that Rockerduck's first appearance is
in Barks' WDC 255-01. In my reprint of the story (found
in Anders And & Co. 49/1986), he has short hazel hair
and wears rather small black glasses.
His next appearance (in my collection - which is of the
amount of 2 small trees and a bough :-) is in I TL 489-A
by Scarpa (1965), where he looks what I consider to be
"normal", that is tight Fethry-like hair and big thin glasses.
However, I went through Marco's Almanacco index, and
found that his first Italian appearance was Bordini's
I AT 75-A (1963). My question is: Was this Rockerduck's
*second* world wide appearance? In that case I would
be happy to see, what he looked like (hair/glasses).
Unfortunately, Bordini didn't draw too well in those days,
so I am not expecting a lot here, but a scan from that
story would be great :-)

Soeren

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KATIE SULLIVAN & RICH BELLACERA --
I know of two Barksian references to a Miss Penny
Wise -- in a late 1950s or early '60s WDC&S, she is a
Duckburg resident whom Scrooge fears, and on the cover
of the first Scrooge FC comic, he apparently named a
boat after her. (Does anybody know of another?)

Quack, Don

ANDERS E.

>> It's always been my personal opinion that the whole Disney production
>> sort of "stepped down" around the mid-sixties.

>I'd say that the real decline came about somewhat later, in
>the early seventies. There was some very fine material even
>in the latter half of sixties

Of course, and your notable exceptions are all well known to me, what I
meant is that the quality of stories produced *begun* deteriorating
around the mid-sixties. Or maybe even a bit earlier...
in fact, I tend to identify the beginning of the "crisis" with the
creation of the "Studio Project" itself, in late 1963....

As you said yourself, even among this run of stories there's a few gems,
but the issue of quantity versus quality proved tiring for the likes of
Murry and Strobl, in the long run.

Also, as David G. pointed out, it's not the artist's fault if the story
plots weren't exactly great, but again it is notable that the inks in
more recent stories seem somewhat hastily done, and more often than not,
not by the artists themselves...

Also, while the work of Murry and Strobl remained at least decent,
art-wise, we shouldn't forget that the Studio Project also brought us the
likes of Jim Fletcher (of Melody's fame), Jack Schmitz (the witches'
"coven") and Fred Abranz (he of the Yennik Bros.).... :-)

And, please allow me a parenthesis :

There's an artist who I relate to Murry and Strobl and is at least
on the same level with them, IMO, whom I hardly ever seen mentioned
on this mailing list, in the 8 months I've been around at least,
Jack Bradbury.

He did quite a few very good stories, is anybody out there familiar
with his style ?

[on Altacraz]
>> Sounds familiar ? It's pure Alfred Hitchcock :-)
>
>To generalize a bit, this is archetypal Film Noir (of which
>Hitch of course made a few).

Quite. But Hitch as an example was, IMO, the most obvious choice,
because he really mastered the genre and always been very popular.
It's very likely most people could have seen "The Wrong Man" or
"Frenzy", if not "The Lodger"... :-)

RICH - THE $CROOGETTES

>I may have been a tad presumptious by adding Princess Oona to the cast...

A bit over-eager, perhaps... ;-)
Oona is desperately in love with Donald... until she meets Daisy, that
is, and although she does meet Scrooge in the second episode of the
mini-saga, he's just a passing visitor at Donald's, and doesn't have
any actual interaction with her (now, don't get me wrong, here... ;-).

But I don't know about the third episode...

>Wasn't Daffy Duck & Sylvester
>a spoof on the Warners' own Leon Schlessinger's lisp? I think it may
>have been pretty common practice for artists/animators to draw their
>bosses into their cartoons... along with other inside jokes?

Well, we could surely say that those bosses were good sports, if WE
can still detect the jokes some 60 years later... :-)
However, about comparing the Blot with Walt Disney as an Italian thing,
physical evidence apart, I'm sure I've also read about it somewhere...

Might have been an Italian book... :-)

SOEREN - Rockerduck

>Bordini's I AT 75-A (1963).

>My question is: Was this Rockerduck's
>*second* world wide appearance?

As far as I know, the answer is yes.
You know, I still remember the great impression I had from this
story in '63. I was presented with 3 completely new concepts.

1. A never-seen-before artist (don't want to brag about it, but I
was really able to distinguish between most artists at 6, although
I obviously ignored their names... :-)

2. A new and interesting character (I hadn't read the Barks' story yet)

3. A new animal (the Kiwi) :-)

>In that case I would be happy to see, what he looked like
>(hair/glasses).
>Unfortunately, Bordini didn't draw too well in those days,
>so I am not expecting a lot here, but a scan from that
>story would be great :-)

It surely looks a bit strange... scans will be on their way to you
pretty soon.

Cheers

Eta Beta

P.S. "Last Balaboo" just updated... :-)