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Don Rosa
From: Barry Branvold
Subject: Comparing:Scrooge and Don Rosa
>>>I do not think Don still has his first Dime, but you never know!

$crooge has his #1 Dime because it is the first of his trophies that bring
back the memories and inspirations of his long life. I don't use coins for
my memories, I use other things, most notably comic books. And I *do* still
have *my* "#1 Dime".
My sister had thousands of comics in the house when I was young, even too
young to read (and even before I was born). These would be the "trophies"
of my childhood, but I did part with them before I realized how valuable
they would someday be to my memories. I have, of course, reacquired ALL of
them (plus tens of thousands more), but they are not the SAME copies --
those are lost forever. All except for ONE. I never parted with the one I
loved the most. I still have what is one of the world's few *one-owner
copies* of FOUR COLOR COMICS #386 (UNCLE $CROOGE #!). I did not know this
was the first issue, but I loved that story! It was the best combination of
motivation, plot, humor, action (the dam breaking panel is the greatest
single page of art in comic book history!), plus characterization and
timing (the last page of that story is, well, maybe the second best comic
page of all time?). The issue I have was bought by my sister in 1952... it
has her name written on the cover... and it features artwork by Don Rosa!
I loved this story so much, and I wanted to have *drawn* such a wonderful
story myself so much, that I scribbled my own art into all the panels.
And I keep it on a "pedestal" in my "comics vault" though I have yet to
find a bell-jar big enough for it.
Kevin Clark
>All except for ONE. I never parted with the one I
>loved the most. I still have what is one of the world's few *one-owner
>copies* of FOUR COLOR COMICS #386 (UNCLE $CROOGE #!). I did not know this
>was the first issue, but I loved that story! It was the best combination of
>motivation, plot, humor, action (the dam breaking panel is the greatest
>single page of art in comic book history!), plus characterization and
>timing (the last page of that story is, well, maybe the second best comic
>page of all time?).

Dam-breaking sequence...
You mean "Only a Poor Old Man"? Gods, I loved that story. The Beagles
may've been tougher, and they may even have found a may to swipe $crooge's
fortune "square", but $crooge proved that he's still "smarter than the
smarties." Wonderful stuff.

How neat it is to discover that one of my favorite U$ stories had such a
powerful influence on Don Rosa himself!
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On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Don Rosa wrote:

> I still have what is one of the world's few *one-owner
> copies* of FOUR COLOR COMICS #386 (UNCLE $CROOGE #!).
> /.../ The issue I have was bought by my sister in 1952...

Erm... now I must admit I don't quite follow... if this issue was bought
by your sister in 1952, and now belongs to you, well... doesn't that make
it a *two*-owner copy??? Or did you mean to say that it still belongs to
your sister, only it resides with you? Or am I just (as indeed I'm won't
to) being daft?

All the best,

/Mattias

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Gilles!
I can't see Shacktown in your map of Duckburg...
Did you forget it?

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Fluks, H.W.
> From: Anders Christian Sivebaek
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 4:25 PM

> > Anything Rosa
> > has never been published in the (most popular and more
> > widely read) weekly comic.

> Just for the record, that is not true. The dutch weekly of course
> published the story that Don did for them, the H-coded ones.

Just for the record, that is not true.
Some H-coded Rosa stories were published in the weekly. Others were stowed
away in holiday specials (Vakantieboek) and DD Extra.
And also one American Rosa story was published in the weekly. Long ago. When
Thom Roep wasn't looking.

--Harry.
Fluks, H.W.
> From: Fernando Ventura [mailto:fernandopventura at uol.com.br]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2001 4:09 AM

> Oberon is the same that De Geillustreerde Pers?!

Same company, different names (because of internal reorganisations and
mother/daughter company changes).

They started as Ge?llustreerde Pers (GP).
In 1972 they became Oberon (part of VNU).
In the 90s they became Geillustreerde Pers (with i in stead of ?). Still
part of VNU.
Recently they became VNU Tijdschriften BV, part of VNU.

<off-topic history lesson>

VNU ("United Dutch Publishers") is the Dutch equivalent of Egmont. One of
the biggest publishing companies in this part of Europe.
Both companies seem to have their roots in the "inventors of book printing":
Egmont used to be named Gutenberghus, the "house of Gutenberg". VNU's
ancestor companies were from the book printers in the city of the Dutch
inventor of book printing (L.J. Coster in Haarlem).

The Dutch think Coster invented the book printing, while the rest of the
world says it's Gutenberg. 8-)

</off-topic history lesson>

--Harry.
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
ARTHUR:

>The Netherlands has a Donald Duck weekly magazine and a Donald Duck
>(Extra)
>monthly magazine. The monthly one prints all the Rosa stories. Anything
>Rosa
>has never been published in the (most popular and more widely read) weekly
>comic.
Just for the record, that is not true. The dutch weekly of course
published the story that Don did for them, the H-coded ones.
>
>This week's weekly issue has an ad for a free insert mini-bookie in two
>weeks. It shows Donald, Joe Carioca and Panchito and it says the Three
>Cabellero's will be back together.
>
>I wonder if this is Rosa's Three Cabellero's story (which I thought was
>really good, btw). Harry, do you know anything about this?
He did.
And I agree, the story Don did is fine. I hope it will be printed nicer in
Holland than in Denmark. Our Jose was turquise blue in the first part, and
Panchito was white. In Sweden and Finland it wasn't so, but Germany made
the same colouring mistake, because the right person hadn't received the
correct colorings. (Things7Mistakes like that seem to happen from time to
time at Egmont, I can find at least one in every of Don's latest stories,
and that's not because they don't do them to others - It's just that I
care most for Don's stories, among the new ones.
>
>
HARRY:
>
>> I wonder if this is Rosa's Three Cabellero's story (which I
>> thought was
>> really good, btw). Harry, do you know anything about this?
>
>Yes, I know anything about this. On January 23, I wrote to DCML:
Either you're quoting Arthur as exact as you can or I just cought you in
making one of your seldomly made linguistic mistake. :-)
>
As said the Coin is in issue 14 of the weeklies in Scandinavia. Someone
told me there's a two-pager (Paper-chase) by Don in issue 17, and Don's
Beagle Boys vs. Money Bin will be out in Norway in issue 21. The question
is if it will be out ealier here in the presumed middle of the Egmont
world. - In the subscribers issue of the new weekly (due out thursday) I
saw that next issue will be 100 pages and dedicated to Barks. There will
be a biography, contests, tests, drawing guides, 2 Barks-classics (Milkman
and the old chasing-story which later was repeated in Chuckwagon Derby),
and the row of tributes from other artists to Barks starts in that issue.
That made me think if Don's contribution would be the first there? (I for
one would find it right) Isn't it quite early if it is true? Maybe they
just worked in into schedule much faster than usual.

As said I'm a fan so I made imagine things here.
KFT
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Apostolis Trikourakis
Kevin wrote:

> You mean "Only a Poor Old Man"? Gods, I loved that
> story. The Beagles
> may've been tougher, and they may even have found a
> may to swipe $crooge's
> fortune "square", but $crooge proved that he's >
still "smarter than the
> smarties." Wonderful stuff

Yes, it's the "Only a Poor old Man" story that had
published in the Uncle Scrooge #1 issue. It's one of
my best Barks' stories ever :-)
Best Wishes

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This week in the Dutch book shops: DD EXTRA #3 with part 2 of Don Rosa's
Kalevala story ("Strijd om de Sampo").

Now that the story has been published completely in Dutch, here's a short
review of the Dutch translation.

In one word: crap.

The Kalevala poetry has degraded to some kind of cheap Sinterklaas-rhyme
(do-it-yourself poetry). Parts don't even rhyme, and there's *no* meter at
all. The *only* advantage is that I can now read and understand the story
without having to use a dictionary (both the English and German versions
used words that are too difficult for me). The Kalevala texts are printed in
a normal italic font; no fancy special fonts, like I've seen in other
countries.

Worse: the translator seems to have made an effort to remove all puns and
jokes in his translation. Donald is NOT laughing death in his face. It's NOT
the "second biggest frog" that man has ever seen. Et cetera.
Very depressing.

Also this week: a new OOM DAGOBERT album. With the Croesus story, and some
other reprints.

--Harry.
Gilles MAURICE
HI!
In several Mickey Mouse's Donald Duck's and PLuto's cartoons, a Little Black Male Seal. Does anybody know if he's got a name and if he once appeared in comic books?
The same question about the little (male or female?) turtle who appears in at least two Plutso's cartoons which take place at the beach.
(those are both the same type of characters: they first annoy Pluto, but finally they become friends)

News of Donald's Birthday!
In another Cartoon (I think the original name is "Donald's Birthday",1948 but I'm not sure, I have to look on Imdb), Huey, Dewey and Louie want to buy a present for their uncle's birthday and there is a little calendar we can see if you stop the image's move ( I dunno the English technical words...).
And on this calendar: "" * MARCH 13 _ Unca'Donald's birthday * "" !
They don't see if this is on friday... (funny detail:
when Louie writes his name on a paper, he spells it that way: "Luey" !)
Olivier
Thanks a lot for the scans, KFT!
Who is the boy holding hands with Donald?
A character from a Finnish tale, I presume?
Olivier
>>Gilles:
>>Hi! In story D99305, from the new JDM2542, we learn about Mickey and Pluto's
>>first meeting, and about what I'd call "The life and times of Pluto"!

Sorry for replying only, Gilles. I could not look up the dailies at the time and then--
hum-- I forgot.
Here's what I have on Mickey & Pluto.

1/ January 10, 1932
Earl Duvall wrote & drew the first MM Sunday page, along with the first
two-tier "Silly Symphonies". As said in Another Rainbow / Gladstone's
"Mickey Mouse in Color-- 1930s Disney Comic Strips Classics", both
characters are "oddly proportioned"-- especially Pluto.
Mickey helps Pluto (unnamed) escape a dogcatcher

But--

2/ July 7 - 18, 1931
Floyd Gottfredson introduces Pluto: "a funny dog" follows Mickey
to Minnie's house; "the darn mutt imitates everything I do" (July 8).
The dog reappears on July 13: "Hi, Pluto, go get it, ol' boy!" (1st panel);
he lives with Mickey, now. Following days: a few fetch-the-stick gags.
No continuity.

3/ Here I may be mistaken, but I don't have time to check.
I'm pretty sure, though, that Pluto's next appearance (in the dailies, and not
in a few panels only) is almost two years later:
Feb 11 - Feb 25, 1933
"Pluto and the Dogcatcher"
Lars Jensen
S?ren Krarup Olesen wrote an analysis of Cousin Fethry that I pretty much agree on. There was one sentence that bothered me, though:

>About Fethry himself, I've always felt that he was the one to bring
>chaos into the otherwise so stabil universe of the ducks

Unfortunately, the perception of the Duck universe as being "stable" was what killed off Fethry some years back. Dick Kinney (apart from his many, many good qualities) unfortunately had Fethry be the "odd man out" in what was otherwise a very homogenous and (let's face it) bland Duckburg. A set-up that worked well in various TV sitcoms of the time, but here resulted in everybody but Fethry being pretty much interchangable. Donald became an everyman like the 1950s Mickey Mouse, reacting to Fethry's wild ideas rather than getting some of his own.

Egmont rightly felt Donald's passiveness in the Fethry stories went against his very nature - and killed Fethry off! And it was only by insisting that Donald *could* be in character while still being with Fethry, that we recently were able to start up a limited production of Fethry stories.

>Anyone knows, where Fethry actually lives!?

Fethry lives in Duckburg.

>isn't Fethry basically a
>hippie in the original sense? ;-)

Fethry debuted in 1964, so he's actually *pre*-hippie. Although I *did* have Magica refer to him as a "hippie left-over" in one story.

Lars Jensen
Gilles MAURICE
HI!
I DID put Shactown in my map. It's circles of purple, near the dump.
Thanks to this map, you can almost every time find where the characters are in Barks/Rosa stories, because I've got all of DonRosa's stories, and that Barksian stories often take place out of Duckburg. But I haven't got ALL Barksian stories, of course, so I said ALMOST. But I've got the one about Shacktown.
Gilles
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