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Lunnan & Hjort
The annual Nordic literary award is a Big Thing, an event
of grand symbolic stature, and The Grail to strive & hope for
for the very best novelists or poets from Iceland, Finland,
Sweden, Denmark or Norway. The excitement level before
the winner is announced is high in all the right circles
(comparable in intensity to the annual 200 km Nordic
championships bicycling roadrace, for those who can remember
when this actually meant something).

This year's winner is Jan Kj?rstad, the Norwegian novelist,
for his trilogy about Jonas Wergeland, "The Seducer",
"The Conqueror", and "The Discoverer". Kj?rstad has been a
runner-up for the prize for several years. -- In an interview
Kj?rstad rather quickly points to the influence of Carl Barks.
This is not surprising for those having read the books. The main
character Wergeland is a world traveller, and visits among
many other places Timbuktu, which he explains (in the book)
is because of the Barks stories which have Donald sent to
this African spot after particularly spectacular failures.

Kj?rstad says that he needed his character to be "nomadic",
and that his inspiration for this comes from his reading the many
Barks adventure stories about Scrooge and Donald during
his childhood and youth.

Kj?rstad claims to be writing "100 % conventionally and
100 % experimentally", and also hopes to be like
"a Bach with letters".

Nils Lid Hjort
Lunnan & Hjort
As has been pointed out on this list, the www.gazette.no/donrosa/index.htm
site works without problems if one wishes to order one or both of the two
Don Rosa books (Captain Kentucky or The Pertwillaby Papers), but does
not appear to work properly for those wishing to have the "Special
Limited Edition". This is the "full package" consisting in Book I + Book II
(both signed by Rosa) + a colour poster featuring the only scene in
existence
where LP and CK actually meet. It is made for the purpose of this edition,
and has been printed in only 150 numbered copies (each signed by Rosa).

The "Tronsmo Books and Comics" shop is working to make their site
more suited for also this "full package" bargain. (I don't know how many of
the 150 are still left after the big signing event on Saturday, but there
should
be some for any eager listees reading this). One may also email directly to
. Lasse Espe (lasse at tronsmo.no) and/or
. Terje Thorsen (terje at tronsmo.no)
about this. As mentioned in one of the last digests, these are "very
friendly
and perfectly fluent in English". One may also call the shop at
(+47) 22 99 03 99 (asking for Lasse or Terje) or fax to (+47) 22 11 33 74.

I'll try to post a report about "Don Rosa meets Duck fans" later on.
Nils Lid Hjort
Lunnan & Hjort
I thought I should report here that the mayor of Oslo, Mr
Ditlev-Simonsen, had the privilege of meeting fellow list member
Don Rosa of Kentucky _three times_ last week.

The first occasion was at the press conference on Wednesday
at the History Museum, with Rosa, the mayor, professor
S?rensen and Egmont editor S?land on the panel. The mayor's
presence was caused by Egmont's idea of having each of
the 437 (?) commune mayors of Norway answering 100 questions
about Duckburg, the so-called "Major Mayor Duckburg Quiz".
The winner will be hailed as a honorary mayor of Duckburg
and will be given a special drawing made by Don Rosa.
This is not necessarily a fully democratic process, and it is not clear
how the Duckburg inhabitants themselves feel about this. [Commenting
on the Major Mayor Duckburg Quiz itself is worth a separate message.
Some of the 100 questions are a little unclear, with no clear winners
among the given multiple-choice style answer alternatives. So
lawsuits can be expected here, with different expert witness with
differing opinions and literary references to support their positions.]

The following morning Rosa and Ditlev-Simonsen met at the
"breakfast TV" show of Norwegian TV2. They discussed Duckburg,
the influence and quality of Barks stories, and also the Main Reason
why Don was in Oslo last week, namely the world launch of
"The Don Rosa Archives" (to which the mayor did not offer any comments,
as he had not had time to read the books yet). Rosa also (briefly) met
there Mr Viggo Sandvik, another person being interviewed in the show,
and who shares with the present messenger the particular characteristic
of having been journalist reporter from the same world championships
in speedskating.

Then Rosa (and I, qua his editor/manager/host for the week) were
invited to the mayor's quarters at the City Hall of Oslo. (There's a
famous drawing of the City Hall made by Don for the "A-Magasinet"
in 1992, with Scrooge close by, speculating about the prospectives
of striking it rich in Oslo.) We had expected this to be a ten-minute
politeness visit, perhaps accompanied by a P.R. photographer,
but to our mild surprise it was nothing of the sort. We had a full hour
together, mainly in his office, which apparently very soon will have
its walls decorated by Munch, Munch, Munch, Munch, Munch, Munch
and Rosa. The mayor obviouly makes exquisite coffe and cakes.
The mayor, who majored in history at Stanford in the 1950ies, appeared
genuinely interested in literature, politics, history, education, art,
and Don's work. Don signed and made a Donald Duck drawing in
the very impressive VIP guest book of the City Council, where on
previous pages we could see autographs of Clinton, Albright, Putin,
Arafat, King Harald, Queen Sonja, and so on. The mayor signed
a heavyweight book about the Oslo City Hall and gifted it to Don
with a very friendly inscription.

Don left Oslo early this morning. We had expected the mayor to
drive him to the airport, but I assume he was engaged elsewhere.

Nils Lid Hjort
Daniel Van Eijmeren
Hoi Harry,

Rosa krijgt in feite niets anders dan lof op de DCML, maar zodra er
een (1!) uitzondering tussen zit dan denkt Dan Shane dat hij op moet
treden als Rosa's bodyguard door de betreffende persoon grof toe te
spreken en te vernederen.

Bah! Kinderachtig!

Groetjes,

--- Daniel

* * * * * *

From: "Dan Shane" <danshane at bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 07:41:22 -0500

Ah yes, once again the wisdom of the world is dispensed by someone who
cannot master the use of the SHIFT key on his computer.

A friendly word to all faithful list members. Please do not feed the
trolls.

--
Dan Shane
(danshane at bellsouth.net)

* * * * * *
Anders Christian Sivebaek
MORGON/HORIZON
I understand that you're a disappointed person. But
maybe you should ask Don what went wrong at that con.

>-- except how he's taken advantage
> of by disney and ebay.
I don't think Disney knows who Don is. Egmont and
other publishers might tsake advantage of Rosa from
time to time, by using his name as an ad for an issue.

At the moment in Norway Tronsmo might also earn extra
money by selling a special edition of their Don Rosa
archieves set.

I'm not sure what you mean by Don or Ebay taking
advantage of the other?

> he was so afraid someone who was posing as a fan
> might slip through, get his
> autograph and then turn around and sell it
This does happen, though. I see it every once in a
while when i check ebay for Don Rosa. Socalled fans
are selling their autographed books, fandrawings, and
even norwegian duck family trees (even though the
person didn't know it was norwegian)

> that he
> alienated a lot of
> longtime fans who had no intention of doing anything
> other than meeting him,
> talking ducks, treasuring the experience and
> displaying his work in a place
> of honor on their wall.
That is of course a pitty. But if Don had too many
experiences with non-fans, but speculators that day, I
understand his reaction fully.

> i'd be flattered, not
> frightened, if someone wanted
> my autograph. i wish him well, and all of you who
> are going to the event. i
> hope you're not too disappointed when you meet a
> pinched and crabby man who
> thinks his fans are interested in him and his work
> soley to make a few
> dollars by selling it to another fan.
Of course he doesn't think that. Don knows the
difference between a fan and a speculator.
> it's not so
> and he knows it.
Yes, he does.

Naturally fans can be negative towards thir idols at
times, but I wonder if too much negativeness doesn't
destroys a fandom.

I'm looking forward to hear from norwegians who met
Don, and I'm sure they didn't see what you say.

AC

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Olivier wrote:

> Do you know "Tante Gra?ieuse" from I-T 230-A1 / 231 A2,
> reprinted in MP 50 (1984-- I was 10!)
> ("Mickey and the Chirikawa necklace)?

By coincidence, I bought the Dutch version of that story at a comic
convention yesterday. It's the first time I can read the story in my own
language. Until now, I only read it in French (in a Mickey Myst?re comic
from about 1997)!
I'm looking forward to reading it (tonight, probably). It really is a great
story.

--Harry.
(Ventilator of Shoe)
B. & K. Scheel
Hi all
Tomorrow the 27 March we will all think about our dear Carl Barks and how
much pleasure he has brought us through the years.
Please read one or two of your favorite Barks stories and remember him in
your evening prayer!
Best wishes
Birte Scheel
Denmark
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Don Rosa
Well, I'm back from my very enjoyable and worthwhile trip to Oslo! I'll
leave it to Nils to report on events when he finds time. But I certainly
thank him over and over again for being the prime driving force in the
publication of my college and fanzine and local-paper comic strips from
20-30 years ago! I am certainly also quite gratified by the many fans who
wanted to see my old work -- I signed books for mail-order customers
(including folks here on the ML) for about 2 hours in the office of the
Tronsmo bookstore there in Oslo, then after bracing myself with a
"Texburger" (more like a Rhode-Island burger by American standards) and a
trip to the WC (so I would not have to stop and leave anyone waiting in
line), I went to the main floor and autographed books and anything else
anyone put in front of me and posed for snapshots for 4 hours nonstop...
after which for another 90 minutes I signed more books for people unable to
visit the store. I don't know if the books will continue to sell as well as
they did that day, but I am certainly gratified by that turn-out.

But if I am going to allow Nils to speak of that week, why do I mention the
7 1/2 hours during which I talked, signed items, posed for pictures and
shook hands, of course all for free? Well, maybe because on returning home
and sitting down to answer all of the 153 e-mails that await me, I find
this Digest with a message from someone whom I assume never knew I was in
the newsgroup to call him the liar that he is, or that he may even have
waited until I left for a week before he tried to slip his lies into view
(anonymously, *and* poorly spelled, I might add, typical for his ilk).

I recall the event at the Oakland Comic Convention vividly -- it was the
ONLY bad experience I've had in my 14 years of appearing at conventions
and signings. It was not last year, but two years ago in 1999. The person
who wrote the message showed up with an equally ill-mannered friend and
after I told them that I was not doing drawings during that show, he
*insisted* it was MY JOB to do everyone who wanted it a full-color original
pen and ink drawing on request on the spot. He demanded it! Needless to
say, it's a total lie that I "wouldn't sign anything,... initial anything,
bless anything or discuss anything". For two days straight for 6 hours
each day I was signing everything and showing everyone who visited my table
all my works that were on hand, and talking to everyone about the
Barksducks with the passion I always do. But the ONLY thing these two boors
would accept were full-color drawings, something *no* other artist at any
convention has ever done in my experience, but something I *had* previously
done for years (until I saw the drawings turning up on eBay and fetching
hundreds of $ for the people who tricked me out of the labor posing as my
fellow fans). I am not an employee of Disney, nor Egmont, nor of the
Oakland Comic Convention -- I am a freelance artist and what I do at any
point in time is my own choice. As do all conventions, the Oakland
convention billed me as being "in attendance", not as being there to "draw
full-color illustrations for everyone through the door". If I discussed the
*other* unpleasant aspects of my life and times with these two boors, it
was to help them see how they were fitting into that unpleasant list. After
that, they stormed off and I was later told that they confronted the
Convention organizers who told them exactly what I told them, then
*refunded their money* and told them to *leave* due to their behavior. It's
being tossed out of the hall which is what is probably still eating at the
guy after two years, not that I would not become his personal slave for two
hours producing color drawings on demand. Or... perhaps he's still upset
about those lost eBay sales?
Anyway, after these oafs left, I continued to talk and sign items for the
people who were standing there during their display of temper... and I seem
to recall that the witnesses were a ML member and his girlfriend/wife,
though they may be off-line at this time. But other list-members like
Michael Naiman and Eric Chan and perhaps still others were also at that
convention and heard about these two characters from several sources.
But... I guess it's like writing and drawing stories that I know will never
please 100% of everyone all the time. Even though I have never seen anyone
who devotes more labor to fans at conventions, nor can I imagine anybody
else who spends 2 to 4 hours each day answering e-mail from fans, I know
that I will *still* not always make *everybody* happy! (At least it's nice
to notice that the one guy who complains is one of those geniuses who, as
Dan Shane pointed out, can't seem to master the intricate techniques of
correct spelling and punctuation. That's probably something to take pride
in, eh?)
Santiago Garcia Baños
>Bark's... Barks'... Barks's...

Why not "Carl's", to stop discussion? ;-)

BTW, why only non-English speaking members have been interested in this
gramatical argue? ;-)

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Don Rosa
Oops. Minor correction. I just checked my notes...
That Oakland Con *was* last year, in 2000. Sorry...
M. Mitchell Marmel
At 7:35 AM -0500 3/26/01, Don Rosa wrote:

>that, they stormed off and I was later told that they confronted the
>Convention organizers who told them exactly what I told them, then
>*refunded their money* and told them to *leave* due to their behavior. It's
>being tossed out of the hall which is what is probably still eating at the
>guy after two years, not that I would not become his personal slave for two
>hours producing color drawings on demand. Or... perhaps he's still upset
>about those lost eBay sales?

Hee!

>But... I guess it's like writing and drawing stories that I know will never
>please 100% of everyone all the time. Even though I have never seen anyone
>who devotes more labor to fans at conventions, nor can I imagine anybody
>else who spends 2 to 4 hours each day answering e-mail from fans, I know
>that I will *still* not always make *everybody* happy!

The esteemed J.R. "Bob" Dobbs has an injunction concerning humorless
boors of this nature. However, the reference is ill-suited to a
family list such as this one, and shan't be repeated here.

>(At least it's nice
>to notice that the one guy who complains is one of those geniuses who, as
>Dan Shane pointed out, can't seem to master the intricate techniques of
>correct spelling and punctuation. That's probably something to take pride
>in, eh?)

Hey, if they had functioning neurons, they'd be able to take "no" for
an answer, neh?

-MMM-
Gilles MAURICE
>>>By the way, when there's no story code (only "JM 171",
>>>for isntance), could you please sum up the story?
I don't have the stories I spoke about here and the one with Pluto nephew...
They just speak about those characters in the book "Happy Birthday Mickey"
I just know that Tante Matilde is a Mousear who has a ranch, and that Oncle
Toc looks like a Goof version of Humperdink (beard, Hat...) He isn't
Wombat..
Pluto's nephew is used in a one page story, printed behind the cover of a
JdM around 1955 ( d?pot l?gal: 5eme trimestre 1955)

>>>Do you know "Tante Gra?ieuse" from I-T 230-A1 / 231 A2,
reprinted in MP 50 (1984-- I was 10!) as "Mickey et le Collier
Chirikawa"
("Mickey and the Chirikawa necklace)?
Yes, I have this issue 50 of Mickey Parade (I was - 8 months!)

>>> In the next continuity, "Mr Slicker and the Egg Robbers" (Sept 22 - Dec
26, 1930), you get to meet Minnie's parents! ...
Wow! anybody could show us scans, please?

>>>Do you have Uncle Giddy (from a Mickey Suday Page),
one of Rich's favorite character?
I don't! Could somebody tell me who he is?

>>>Baldo de' Paperi
Does he have an English name? If not, is there another character who has "de
Paperi" in his full name?

>>>What kind of code is that? It should be either
D+5digits (year and a number) or D 2000-3digits.
Oops! I've Goofed... the code is D 810201

Yes, Gyro's ancestors are in S69020

I've found new characters!!!

IT 269/270 A Goofy's uncle, "Dingo Dinguis" in french. He just died and was
a cracker paquets collector.

In WDC 172, a third Mickey's nephew appears in a Pluto story

In S 8131, another Mickey's Great Uncle in africa, oncle Baladin, in French.

In several stories from Massimo de Vita and Giorgio Pezzin, we see a
Mickey's detective Ancestor, Mick de Mick in french. He has a moustach and
lived in 1938

In I 1875, printed in MP 184, appears a Goofy's Great Uncle, called Ding de
Ding, he is an inventor with a white beard...

Original/english names welcome...

Gilles
Gilles MAURICE
In FJM 00201C, from JDM 2494, by Corteggiani and Nawa, Goofy is arrested by
the police because of several crimes and holdups he did. Wondering why he
did that, Mickey looks in Goofy's suitcase, and find Peanuts. "Well! some
peanuts! the same he eats to become SuperGoofy!"
Finally, they understand that Goofy had become Supergangster because he had
eaten spoiled peanuts!...
In this story, Mickey and O'Hara already knew that Goofy was SuperGoofy.

Gilles
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
Francesco:
>
>Kriton's (once Archontis's) monthly "column" about Komix got me to think
>that maybe even the Italian Zio Paperone may deserve one.
>In theory it should be interesting only for Italian readers, but if this
>were true, Kriton's komix mails should be interesting only for Greek, and
>that's not true, since I find it interesting, so... ;-)

>
>Zio Paperone #138, March 2001.
>- Cover by Marco Rota (it always is), illustrating "Somwhere in Nowhere";
[snip]
>- Barks's, Lustig's, Block's "Somewhere in Nowhere" (note: ONLY in
>Italian, like the rest of the mag);
This sounds very great.
I'm coming to Italy in the easter holdays so I hope this issue will still
be on the stands by then.
So what if it's only in italian, ZP is a great magazine, and the first to
publish the story, nomatter which quality it actually has.
Yours
AC
Apostolis Trikourakis
Hi all

> I signed books for mail-order customers (including >
folks here on the ML) for about 2 hours in the office
> of the Tronsmo bookstore there in Oslo, then after >
bracing myself with a "Texburger" (more like a Rhode->
Island burger by American standards) and a trip to the
> WC (so I would not have to stop and leave anyone >
waiting in line), I went to the main floor and >
autographed books and anything else anyone put in >
front of me and posed for snapshots for 4 hours >
nonstop...

Wow! It's hard to be famous!
Best Wishes

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E-mail: komixgreekpage at yahoo.com
Web Site: http://www.geocities.com/komixgreekpage

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