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François Willot
>Therefore, I urge EVERYONE who knows of additional relatives
> that have not been mentioned on Barks', Rosa's or the other published
trees
> or lists, to e-mail information on them to Gilles Maurice

GILLES

Is there a place where your complete, updated list can be found?

Francois
Timo Ronkainen
Hi!

Victor Arrigada Rios - Vicar will be one of the quests in Kemi internetional
Comics Festival. 18. - 20.5.2001
http://www.kemi.fi/~sarjis/english.htm
http://www.kemi.fi/~sarjis
It's not yet mentioned on their pages.

Timo Ronkainen

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Thomas Barry
In my very humble opinion:
I don't see why Daniel should present his excuses. He
may think that Dan Shane is the bodyguard of Don Rosa,
and so what? Not a big deal really.
Maybe he should have said that he was sorry for
spaming the list with a message written in Dutch, but
apart for that, I don't see anything wrong in his
mail.

Now let's enjoy discussing Disney comics...

Thomas

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Blasco Pisapia
>
>
>You know, the character Olivier told about who wanted to dig another Paname
>canal, the character "Burt Naldo" Olivier saw in "I Disney Italiani" ,and
>"Baldo de Paperi" Blasco told about-- They are the same!!
>I've founded this MP 106 in my collection.
>Here he is said to be Scrooge's Great grandnephew in law. I wanted to know
>if he was so in the other versions ( I haven't understood Blasco's words
>("nth nephew") when he spoke about the relations between Scrooge and him,
>because I don't understand those technical words,or maybe he has goofed
>wanting to say "other" or "nineth"... so could you tell more?...)
>
>Gilles

Hi Gilles and everyone!

I'm sorry, but I can't check what is the actual relationship between
Scrooge and Baldo, since my copy of "Topolino #1294" is out of reach
by now.
When I wrote 'nth', all I wanted to say was another one, or the last
in a huge crowd of nephews, generally speaking.

Sorry for not being more punctual, and good luck for your work, you
gotta catch' em all!!! (Relatives, not Pokemon!)
Blasco
Paolo Castagno
Hi,

After a long time, the Italian Inducks portal (
http://www.fumetti.org/inducks for Italians,
http://www.fumetti.org/inducks/default_e.htm for English
readers) is now updated, introducing a new topic: covers
from Disney comic books from all over the world! There are
links for you to reach almost all the web sites where Disney
cover images are stored.

Please note that the cover images aren't part of the Inducks
project: they are just indexed in it!

There is also a new fun (I hope) pool, about the character(s)
you'd like not
to see anymore on a Disney comics: this time you can vote for one
of more of them.

The previous pool was about the most popular Romano Scarpa
character, and as you can see from the result I post hereafter,
Sgrizzo won this "contest": it is a kind of surprisingly result
since I was thinking Brigitta was going to win, but Sgrizzo is
now also used by present days writers (mainly Luca Boschi) and
maybe he became very familiar to young readers. Too bad once
again the one I voted for (Atomino bip-bip) achieved a bad
result!

BTW this is the final standing:

Sgrizzo 120 votes (20%)
Brigitta 113 votes (19%)
Trudy 91 votes (15%)
I Paperoidi 54 votes (9%)
Gancetto (Bruto) 42 votes (7%)
Paperetta Ye' Ye' 36 votes (6%)
Filo Sganga 31 votes (5%)
Atomino Bip-Bip 24 votes (4%)
Gedeone de Paperoni 22 votes (3%)
Plottigat 20 votes (3%)
Zenobia 8 votes (1%)
Cavillo Busillis 7 votes (1%)
Codino 6 votes (1%)
Re Arbor 6 votes (1%)
Total 580 votes

What do you think about it?

There are characters almost unknown outside Italy (just like
Codino) or characters appeared in 1 or 2 stories (Gedeone de
Paperoni, Zenobia) whose bad performance is justified by being
unknown, but I'm very surprised by Atomino's bad performance...

- Paolo

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http://digilander.iol.it/inducks mailto:p.castagno at libero.it

"Un tipo che va in giro con pantaloni di latta con questo clima
caldo come questo, e' capaca di qualunque cosa!"
(Paperino in W OS 159-01)
SRoweCanoe
In a message dated 3/30/01 9:13:56 AM Eastern Standard Time,
thomasbarry2001 at yahoo.co.uk writes:

> Now let's enjoy discussing Disney comics...
>
This continues to be "funny / sad".

If you (and me and others ) want us to enjoy discussing Disney comics, then
you (and me and others) need to stop writing the paragraph that I've snipped
above, where you (and me and others) make various non-enjoyable non-Disney
Comics comments.
Otherwise somebody (like you, me or others) will continue to try to get the
last non-enjoyable non-Disney Comics comment in... <just like this post>

Steven Rowe
Periklis Theofilou
Here's a bit of information that I came across while reading
a book ( the present tense in the excerpt refers to a time around 1980)
:

[ The caricature artist Al Hirtchfeld for three decades "
hides " the name of his daughter Nina in his sketches . USA's airforce
uses the " search for Nina " as an exercise during the training of
bomber pilots , to help them locate targets faster , and recently NASA
as an observation exercise on astronaut training . In addition , a
Pentagon advisor worked on Hirtchfeld's sketches searching for " Nina
" as part of his doctoral thesis on camouflage , which he did
with a scolarship of $60.000 ]

Now , I must admit that I don't know this artist , even though most
of you probably do, but I suppose he is the first one to have this
idea that is nowadays so popular among the fans of Don Rosa (seeking
the D.U.C.K. dedication) and/or Marco Rota ( who also frequently hides
his name on his drawings) or maybe others .
I guess that this is another motivation for all us D.U.C.K.hunters
worldwide to keep searching no matter how crafty the disguise of the
dedication ! Who knows , it could leed one day to a promising career in
NASA or whatever ! And that's another example of the infinite uses of
comics in our life !

Periklis Theofilou
Luca Boschi
Hi, all!

I'm quite flattered by the words of Paolo, and by the fact that the winner,
among the Romano Scarpa's characters, be Sgrizzo Papero... Maybe one of the
most consistent among his creations...

Paolo says:

> but Sgrizzo is
> now also used by present days writers (mainly Luca Boschi) and
> maybe he became very familiar to young readers.

I must say that another "new father" of Sgrizzo is Enrico Faccini, a very
clever artist and story man, in the best Disney's spirit (in my honest
opinion).

> BTW this is the final standing:
>
> Sgrizzo 120 votes (20%)
> Brigitta 113 votes (19%)
> Trudy 91 votes (15%)
> I Paperoidi 54 votes (9%)
> Gancetto (Bruto) 42 votes (7%)
> Paperetta Ye' Ye' 36 votes (6%)
> Filo Sganga 31 votes (5%)
> Atomino Bip-Bip 24 votes (4%)
> Gedeone de Paperoni 22 votes (3%)
> Plottigat 20 votes (3%)
> Zenobia 8 votes (1%)
> Cavillo Busillis 7 votes (1%)
> Codino 6 votes (1%)
> Re Arbor 6 votes (1%)
> Total 580 votes
>
> What do you think about it?
>
> There are characters almost unknown outside Italy (just like
> Codino) or characters appeared in 1 or 2 stories (Gedeone de
> Paperoni, Zenobia) whose bad performance is justified by being
> unknown, but I'm very surprised by Atomino's bad performance...

Maybe Atomino is known ONLY in France, in Germany (thru old "Der Lustige
Taschenbucher" books) and (a little bit) in Greece. This maybe is one of the
possible explanations. I'm sure he needs a revival. In the next "Maestri
Disney", dedicated to Massimo De Vita, there is an article describing ala
the Atomino's appearances. The article introduces the reprint of a
not-so-well-known story by the interesting Scarpa's character.

Now, my next proposal is another: to organize a poll about ALL the main
Italian characters, including Paperinik, Indiana Pipps (Arizona Goof) and
some of the other most popular Italian characters. This poll should include
the same Scarpa's characters as well...

What do you think about this issue?

Luca
Olivier
Hello, everyone!

I am awfully & shamefully sorry this comes a week late,
but here it is at last,
a special tribute to Ub Iwerks for his 100th (and a week...) birthday:
http://members.nbci.com/mouse_ducks/events/ui100.html

Olivier
Carey Furlong
Well, Gary and Rebecca had some news for us in America about the Disney
License, such as it was. But, thanks for the updates anyway, guys!

Gary said:

> There were things brewing, and considerable motivation on the part of
> certain parties to make them happen, but...

and Rebecca said:

> Well, I asked him how his struggle for the Disney
> liscense was going, and he said that it was in the final stages. It sounds
> very hopeful to me, so English-speaking only fans take heart!

You mean...., there might actually be an end to this madness, this endless
drought of Disney comics in America?

After all these years?

....Yeaaaaah?

Well, I don't know. I don't know what to think. I mean, it's been so long.
How would I ever...? What would I do, how would I act with Disney comics
back in town? (Naaawww. But... ???)

Rebecca ended by saying:

>... (who goes to school in the city that may soon be the home of the new
english
> disney comics!)

My stars and little comets, I don't care if they're produced in Gooestown!
BRING 'EM ON!

Carey Furlong
Huntington Beach, California, USA
Dan Shane
PERIKLIS SAYS:

The caricature artist Al Hirtchfeld for three decades " hides
" the name of his daughter Nina in his sketches . USA's airforce uses the "
search for Nina " as an exercise during the training of bomber pilots , to
help them locate targets faster , and recently NASA as an observation
exercise on astronaut training . In addition , a Pentagon advisor worked on
Hirtchfeld's sketches searching for " Nina " as part of his doctoral
thesis on camouflage , which he did with a scolarship of $60.000 ]
Now , I must admit that I don't know this artist , even though most of
you probably do, but I suppose he is the first one to have this idea that
is nowadays so popular among the fans of Don Rosa (seeking the D.U.C.K.
dedication) and/or Marco Rota ( who also frequently hides his name on his
drawings) or maybe others .

AND I REPLY:

Hirschfield is possibly the best know caricturist in America. His
likenesses of celebrities have graced the covers of THE NEW YORKER, TV
GUIDE, and many other magazines. He is most closely associated with his
carticatures of Broadway stars and other denizens of New York City. That is
probably why his style was chosen as the basis for the RHAPSODY IN BLUE
segment in FANTASIA 2000 (my favorite part of the film).

There have been classic painters who have also hid their name or the names
of others in their works, but Hirschfield is likely the greatest progenitor
of the practice. My first familiarity with the "game" of hunting for a
hidden name was in the daily editorial cartoons in our Louisville newspaper,
THE COURIER-JOURNAL. The local cartoonist, Hugh Haynie, was one of the very
best, even winning a Pulitzer Prize for his work. He was my inspiration for
learning to draw, even more than the Disney Comics. That's probably why I
was better at one shot gags than at detailed stories. I leave that to Don
and so many other capable spellbinders.
Olivier
Hello!

Two additions to Goofy's tree, from Walsh & Gottfredson's
"The Ghost of Black Brian" (June 25 - Oct 20, 1951):

1/ June 28: Goofy tries to scare ghosts away with portraits of
seveal of his relatives--unnamed, only "relatives"

2/ Aug 29: Goofy has to visit his Aunt Wisteria, who is sick

I don't forget the scans. I simply can't do them now.

Have a nice week-end!

Olivier
Gwtank
You might be interested in knowing that about a year ago Hirshfeld also drew a charicature of Carl Barks. As far as I know only one copy exists.
UNDBKB
I have a customer looking for the following story:
If any of you can point me in the right direction, it would be helpful.
Thanks in advance.

I am looking for a very specific story or story segment, this may be
hopeless. the story line concerned the Little Bad Wolf telling the Big Bad
Wolf that he needed to make up with a hound dog, apparently an Irish hound
dog. The Big Bad Wolf took a bouquet of shamrocks, as I recall, to the
hound and the hound beat him to a pulp. The hound commented that he was
"Orange Irish" as
he departed. It was probably a part of another book that also had Donald or
other characters and stories in it.
Georgios Balanikas M.D.
Al Hirschfeld is the greatest caricaturist of the 20th century in the USA. He is 98 years old,lives in N.York and he draws uninterruptedly every Sunday from 1929 in the New York Times, in the ART section caricatures from the world of Broadway,Opera and Music from. He started hidding the name of his daugther Nina during the decade of 40's.
Here in Greece is totally unknown.
His works are in many museums in the USA and the lithos are very expensive.Someone can find them in the Margot Feiden Galleries in NY.
He became known to the Disney fans from his contribution to the film "Fantasia 2000". The part with the Gershwin's" Rapsody in Blue" theme was drawn by his coworkers. It is easy for someone to identify his style.
The U.S. Postal Service recognised his art and issued two series with the Comedians(1991) and Silent screen legends(1994) with his caricatures.
I am very curious to see the Carl Barks caricature by him.(Dr Gerry,I need your help).
I was lucky to meet him in NY twice once in 1986 and last in December of 1998.
GEORGIOS
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