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Olivier
>>I don't have the stories I spoke about here and the one with Pluto nephew...
>>They just speak about those characters in the book "Happy Birthday Mickey"

I have it. OK, let's see...

p 88: Goofy's "Oncle Toc"
Don't know. Must be from a Saturday strip.

p 89: This is indeed Aunt Matilda from "Sheriff of Nugget Gulch"
(1937 Sunday strip)

p 92: A title panel for "Toto fils de Pluto" ("Toto, Pluto's son")

Olivier
Nils Lid Hjort
Yesterday I posted a message about the influence of
Carl Barks on the novels of Jan Kj?rstad, this year's
winner of the Nordic Council's Literature Award.
His major hero Jonas Wergeland, in his grand trilogy,
has a "nomadic" life taking him to various corners
of the earth, and Kj?rstad acknowledges the influence
of Barks' adventure tales with Scrooge and Donald
and the kids.

Today I saw an interview with another contemporary
Norwegian author, Ari Behn. This young writer's reputation
and fame is suddenly quadrupling and quintupling, as
we speak, due to his association with the Norwegian
princess Martha Louise. In a long interview, aimed from
the journalist's side at getting him to tell about the
princess, Behn with admirable persistence talks about
everything else -- including Jesus (whom Mr Behn recently
met in person, in Arabia), Tibuktu ("quite like Geilo"
in the Norwegian mountains), the desert, Africa, literature,
duels (he just challenged a person to fight for life and
death, because this person had offended not him, but a friend
of his, presumably the princess), the need to be open
about praise, etc etc.

And he mentions the Barks stories he read during
childhood and youth as having been inluential for his
development. Some people know when young that will end
up as archeologists, after reading the Seven Cities of
Cibola. Behn knew he was going to be a writer -- and that
he would go to Timbuktu.

It is appropriate on this 100th birthday of Carl Barks
to ponder his enormous and unparallelled influence in
so many directions and on so many layers of society.
We should not be surprised, therefore, that he also
touches royalty, albeit indirectly.

Nils Lid Hjort
Wdposter
I checked out Eta Beta's site a couple of weeks ago and thought it was
fantastic!
What a great site..... the comic cover pages, are a wonderful place to
browse. I noticed some issues were not there.... Eta, would you like images
sent to you for the ones you are missing? Best regards to all, Martin
Wdposter
In a message dated 3/24/01 4:47:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,
HorizonHse at aol.com, or, Morgan, writes:
<<
i wouldn;t bother going to see don rosa in oslo -- or anywhere else for that
matter. >>
Morgan...... I can't say why you had the experience you did, but every time
I have gone to see Don at a Convention he has been very kind and went out of
his way to finish drawing or signing something for a duck fan. I have driven
several hundred miles from my home, a four to five hour journey each way to
see Don and have never been disappointed. I can only say from experience
that it only takes about 2 or 3 questions from Don to tell if you are a fan
or speculator looking to sell his name. He must have had several bad
experiences before you approached him. Don't give up!
Apostolis Trikourakis
Today is a day of both happiness and sadness...
If Carl Barks lived today, he would be 100 years old.
And that's something important for us. Our lovely
master supplemented 100 years of life. If he was here,
he would sit down in his table, in front of a big cake
with 100 small candles, and with all his characters
around him, and he would smiled.
Unfortunatelly, God wants Unca Carl to be in paradise,
so we have to celebrate without him.

Without him? No, Unca Carl is here today! His
characters is here and also he's inside our hearts. So
many people working everyday, drawing and writing
stories: from Don Rosa to Romano Scarpa, from Giorgio
Cavazzano to Ben Verhagen, from John Lustig to Daan
Jippes, from so many people whose their purpose is to
draw their favourite characters, those ones which they
read decades before. And I want to thank them ALL.

Unca Carl is alive inside our hearts. We'll never
forget him. And each time we want to see him again, we
can just look the sky: one of those stars is Carl (or
we can just read one of his stories)...
Happy Birthday Unca Carl

[Please forgive me for any typographical mistakes I
done]

Best Wishes

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Nils Lid Hjort
First of all, happy birthday, Carl Barks, happy
century. We are all united in at least this particular
respect.

Then all our differences and minor and major
disagreements appear, of course, as they should.
I'm reminded of this as I view the
www.donald.no
[which quickly transforms itself into
http://www.disney.no/DonaldDuck/index2.html ].
In Denmark and Sweden this would be
http://www.disney.dk/andersand/index2.html
http://www.disney.se/kalleanka/index2.html

What I'd wish to draw your attention to is the

"Stem p? din Barks-favoritt!"

Well, this is at least of potential interest, to discuss
one's Barks favourite stories. There are aspects
here I do not like so well, however. Click your way;
I'm doing it as I write on the Danish site (the
Norwegian one is now blocking me away, as it should,
since I've already placed my vote there).

(1) The Norwegian page has a very ugly case of
"green'grocer's apo'strofff'":
" Vinn praktboken Carl Bark's Beste! "
(even on Carl Barks' centennial).
I suspect also the Danish and Swedish are incorrect;
shouldn't it be a real Danish apostrophe in
" Carl Barks Bedste! "
and a real Swedish apostrophe in
" Vinn praktboken om Carl Barks b?sta serier! " ?

(2) The crucial piece of information of what the deadline
is, is missing. How late can I place my vote?

(3) I find it strange to call this is a "competition",
voting for your favourite story. Yes, 10 "winners"
are drawn from those placing a vote, but that doesn't
make it a competition, in my book.

(4) There is a significant selection bias and basic
setup restriction in that the 13 stories with given
titles _of course coincides with those in the
de Lux book_. You have to be very conscious (and probably
more than 13 years old) to allow "other stories" a
chance at all. You must in fact also know the precise
_title_ of the story.

(5) I find that there's another selection bias towards
story 1, the "square egg" story from Lost in the Andes
(FC #223, 1949), as it is the "default click" among
the 14 possibilities (13 stories + "other").
A person I talked to had clicked on "Vote!" a little
bit too early; he thought he _then_ would be asked about
which story he preferred. But no, he is for ever
registred as a square egg fan.

(6) You can see the current votes, by clicking on
"Follow the voting results!". This leads to further
selection bias, and is contrary to commonly agreed on
democratic voting rules (even in the USA).
It is not good for voters of Florida if they already
know how all the others voted.

(7) Shock! The Swedish site doesn't appear to be _finished_.
There might be a `temporary problem', but at least
as I write this only _the first 8 of the 14_ are given
titles. If you wish to vote for no. 9, you seemingly
have to guess your way. Horror!

(8) Finally I understand from a colleague's remark that
one may hack one's way into the voting boot _several
times_ (I'm of course not advocating this).

Sorry for sounding itchy & bitchy & attac-y. It must be
my inclination to go for "other" (I chose "Back to the
Klondike"), as well as feeling that the Square Egg story
is given _too many chances_ in the game. It would please me
(and confuse the publishing machines) if the pedagogically
constructed histograms (row diagrams) would show that
"other stories" outperformed the 13 stories chosen by the editors.

Go for it (at any rate): visit the

http://www.disney.no/DonaldDuck/index2.html and
http://www.disney.dk/andersand/index2.html and
http://www.disney.se/kalleanka/index2.html ,

make your voice heard, and win three expensive books
(in three languages).

Nils Lid Hjort
(Danish voter no. 473, one of currently 27 with "other")
Olivier
For weeks now a curious phenomenon has been happening
in Duckburg as everyone was getting ready to commemorate
the Duck Man's 100th Anniversary.

Over Duckburg, actually.

During the day, it did not show.

But at night, a strange thing was happening: the stars were moving!
At first it was but a slight move, invisible to the untrained eye.
But as it went on, it became obvious: the stars were moving...

Everyone was waiting in anticipation, thinking what possible
phenomenon might be at work in the heavens.

Five ducks knew well what sort of things you could find out there.
They had been everywhere: all over the world, and beneath, and over,
and even way up there.

They had seen strange things, met different kinds of people out there.
Little Indians in the sky and giant girls on a far-away planet.
A strange-looking little man who simply wished for a handful of soil.
They even had visited Valhalla!

But this they could not explain.
Unless--

There appeared to be a coherence in the movement.
Yes: the stars were forming a pattern!
What it was was yet unclear and remained so for several weeks.

But in the past few days, they moved more rapidly.
And it became clear.

They all waited eagerly for the pattern to take shape.

And tonight, when the clock marked 0:00 and Anniversary Day had come,
it was clear and they all cheered at the heavens...

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Gary Pantzer
The http://donrosa.tronsmo.no/ page for ordering Don's books as
well as the 'special limited' set with the signed print has been done
over. You can now select exactly what you want and they even
have a nice image of this print for viewing. These people are very
responsive and helpful. BTW, many thanks to Nils for his part in
all this and the reports from Oslo.
Martin Berglund
On this day of remembrance my thoughts go out to Carl and my greetings go
out to duckfans all over the globe. Let's remember the pearls of wisdom
delivered in his stories and his general message of kindness.
As a previous message recommended, I'll make sure to find the time to read
some of my favourite Barks stories today.

Wishing you were here, Carl

/Martin Berglund
Malmo, Sweden
Timo Ronkainen
Celebrations everywhere. I wish Unca-Carl could be here to enjoy it too.
In Finland we got big book of best stories by Barks with comments by
himself, collected from various interviews, with preface by prof. Donald
Ault.
And then there is of course special issue of Aku Ankka with
picturebook-story Donald Duck and the Boys.

Timo

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Theresa Wiegert
Hi, Nils and everyone else!
I looked up the swedish place and placed my vote on Den finurlige Farbror
Joakim, whatever it's called in English, sorry I don't remember. I was
surprised to see so extremely many votes on the squared egg in the Andes
story. Ok, it's a good one, but is it so outstanding good compared to the
other stories? So I'm going with Nils' theory about the deafult being
chosen by mistake...

> (1) The Norwegian page has a very ugly case of
> "green'grocer's apo'strofff'":
> " Vinn praktboken Carl Bark's Beste! "
> (even on Carl Barks' centennial).
> I suspect also the Danish and Swedish are incorrect;
> shouldn't it be a real Danish apostrophe in
> " Carl Barks Bedste! "
> and a real Swedish apostrophe in
> " Vinn praktboken om Carl Barks b?sta serier! " ?

?hm.... Nope, the Swedish language doesn't use apostrophes when making a
name in 'owner'-form (i e in my case: the book of Theresa --> Theresas
book. So when a name already ends with an s, it looks the same. I don't
know about Danish and Norwegian, though...

> (4) There is a significant selection bias and basic
> setup restriction in that the 13 stories with given
> titles _of course coincides with those in the
> de Lux book_. You have to be very conscious (and probably
> more than 13 years old) to allow "other stories" a
> chance at all. You must in fact also know the precise
> _title_ of the story.

Yep. Silly!

> (7) Shock! The Swedish site doesn't appear to be _finished_.
> There might be a `temporary problem', but at least
> as I write this only _the first 8 of the 14_ are given
> titles. If you wish to vote for no. 9, you seemingly
> have to guess your way. Horror!

But the result gives a lot of votes for the places with no names... I
wonder what people voted there...

Now, I'll say KVACK! (swedish) for now... (I haven't written to the list
for quite a while... I wonder how many people are out there lurking just
like me! :)

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Theresa Wiegert
I was surfing the web to find information about Tidal heating on Io (one
of Jupiter's moons) for an assignment I am doing in school (I study lots
of astronomy) but I didn't find anything. So I searched on the word
Io only! And the 3rd hit I got was 'Io books', a page with a mail (like
for a mailing list), written by Didier Ghez, wondering about Disney books
with names like Io Paperone (?) and Io Mickey. And the previous mail on
the list was written by someone answering something written by Kriton.
So I looked further, and then I realized I had just come to the DCML
archive for January 2000.... :)

Well, have to go on surfing now, perhaps specializing a little bit
more. (If there is anyone out there sitting on lots of info about Io,
you're welcome to contact me, sorry for the offtopic topic... :)

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/The

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Mattias Hallin
On Tue, 27 Mar 2001, Theresa Wiegert wrote:

> ?hm.... Nope, the Swedish language doesn't use apostrophes when making a
> name in 'owner'-form (i e in my case: the book of Theresa --> Theresas
> book. So when a name already ends with an s, it looks the same. I don't
> know about Danish and Norwegian, though...

Erm... in fact, in Swedish you *may* (but do not have to) add a final
genitive apostrophe to names ending with an "s", if it is
necessary in order to make it clear that it is indeed a genitive. An
example (taken from the latest edition of Svenska skrivregler): Det h?r
?r inte min hund, det ?r Anders'. (This is not my dog, it is Anders's.)

But enough, already, of linguistic hairsplitting. I cast my vote -- and am
proud to tell the world I did so -- for "In Old California". And, what's
more, was quite intrigued to read, on the official website of "Kalle Anka
& Co" to boot, that "The story, as may be guessed from the title, takes
place in California in 1848. Donald and the kids are really on a holiday
with their car in the modern California of 1951, but /.../" (my
translation).

So... according to Egmont, at least this story really takes place in the
early fifties! Interesting, I can't help thinking... Does this perchance
mean that they've (more or less) officially accepted Don's views on the
duck timeline? Hmmm...

All the best,

/Mattias

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Anders Christian Siveb¾k
What beautiful poems and nice thoughts I see here on this day.
So what does the day that could have been Barks' 100th birthday mean to
me. Well, quite a lot. I've been reading of his charecters for that whole
part of my life that I remember, I've been collecting his stories for so
many years. He and his ducks are the reason I made an article for the
local newpaper, and that I'm making articles for the school paper today.
He's the reason of many of my journeys to other parts of the world. Many
of my friends, both via electronics and where I live have the same
interest as I, and I met many of the people I found via Barks-stories in
reality.
I thank him for that. Of course I will read some Barks-stories today, and
I will put him in my evening prayer, but I'm sure that if there is a
better place (heaven?) he'sone of the persons that I don't doubt to be
there. Where else would he be with all the nice stories he made for us.
The french monthly and weekly celebrates his birthday too. The french
Picsou has a very touching foreword, where they express how much they miss
him for his own birthday.

Yesterday I made a drawing of Duckburg being on a cloud in heaven, where
Barks was standing with his closes duck-friends and between the statue of
Cornelius Coot and Scrooge Money Bin.
As they say in the biography of Carl in the danish weekly. We can't really
express what Carl means to us, so we come down to chosing these two:
Thanks, Carl

AC
Anders Christian Siveb¾k
Hi
Apart from this being the centennial of Barks' Birth it was also the day
when I received the new danish book with the best stories by Barks. It
contains that, the best of hiss tories, including small texts about every
story and a foreword I haven't read yet.
Among others it includes the Golden Helmet.
You who know me back from my first postings may remember that I once read
about the story in a sticker-book that followed the birthday issue of the
weekly in 1994 (from the week Barks was here some of the days). I searched
for the story, and made copies from a high school book on vikings, to get
more panels from it. Finally I heard from a comic shop in Silkeborg who
got it for me, cheap, only 20 kroner (2-3 $).
I wouldn't call it a waste of 20 kroner but look at this.
In november last year the story Golden Helmet camepout in issue 17 of the
beautiful danish Goldbooks (hardbound, gold colour, 3 oil paintings and 8
stories by the good old master)
In febraury the reprint book, printing second half of 1952's DD&Co. came
out, it contains the solo-comic with Golden Helmet (I haven't got it yet,
because I paid late)
In this new Barks-book the Golden Helmet is too, and it deserves to be
there.
MY old "horse", the 7-year roole, which I believed would prevent egmont
from using such a stroy 3 times in a period of what, 5 months, obviously
doesn't work when we talk about these stories.
There are several examplesof that at the moment too, but also some that
follows that roole, a beautiful 100 jubilee-book with Pirate Gold and the
riddleof the red hat. (So why did I hunt the country for a small book from
1988 and the american edition of Pirate Gold?:-)

Well, now I'm looking forward to see Rome soon
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