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Armando Botto
Shaun:
> On the subject of names appearing in Don Rosa stories, there was also the
mention of "Coral Barques". This was in the story where U$ and the boys get
a photo of the map of the sunken Spanish treasure fleet in the Florida Keys
(I don't recall the story's title). How was this reference handled in
non-English translations?

The story is "Treasure Under Glass". The Italian translation (in "Zio
Paperone" # 141) is literal, so the reference to Barks is lost - but it
would have been impossible to keep, I reckon...

Ciao,
Armando
Luca Faccioli
> > In the 2nd part of Don Rosa's new story (D 2001-024; Farbror Joakim:
> > > Korsfararkungarnas krona) there's a guy looking like the creator
himself,
> > > see http://www.geocities.com/disneycreatorsappearinginstories/dr.jpg
for a
> > > scan of a panel where he appears. This made me think of what other
stories
> > > there are where Disney creators appear in their own stories. I thought
> > about
> > > Vicar's "The Cartoonist" (D 97258) (scanned panel available at
> > > http://www.geocities.com/disneycreatorsappearinginstories/vr.jpg) and
> > > "Barks' Dog Food" in "Turkey Trouble" (WDC 75). Are there more similar
> > cases
> > > where the creators themselves appear in any way or another?
> > >
> > >
> > > Stefan

In my first story written for Disney Italia, (I-2118-5, "Paperino e le
carte
vincenti" ) the good artist Francesco Guerrini did some "funny portrait"
of our two (but he didn' t say anything to me since the story was published
...) at the bottom of the first page and in the second picture of pag. 9 .
In both of the pictures we are playing cards with DD, I'm the tall boy with
short hairs and Francesco is the raven with black moustache and beard ...

Ciao,

Luca Faccioli, Bologna, Italy
Goofy313g
Hi!
Please, as those publications are not in the I.N.D.U.C.K.S, could somebody
tell me if he recognizes those stories, or just the drawer, or anything, and
also the original names of the Duck relatives appearing in them? :

http://goofy313g.free.fr/1.jpg
http://goofy313g.free.fr/2.jpg
http://goofy313g.free.fr/3.jpg

I can't even tell the number of pages (except for the first, which is 13), as
the magazines in which they have been published aren't the same size than
regular comic books.
I guess the second one is :

<<<Disney comics story W DD 103-04

Donald Duck: The Golden Galleon

Story code
W DD 103-04
Description
diving in glass-bottom sub to find golden galleon
Number of pages
10
Written by
Carl Fallberg
Pencilled by
Tony Strobl
Inked by
Steve Steere
All appearing characters
Donald Duck, Huey Dewey and Louie, Uncle Scrooge
First published
September, 1965
>>>

But I still need the original name of the captain of the boat (he is also in
my German Duck family tree called Don Dugo
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/trees/germantree.html
The three ancestors in the scrapbook are also on the german tree
Well... I recently found that this tree I call german is in fact a german
publication of a Dutch family Tree...
I have to update all that very soon...
Thank u!!!

Gilles
Goofy313g
Hi!
I loved the story the Beagle Boys vs the Money Bin, published this month in
Picsou Magazine!!!

I have some questions:

About the Money Bin Plans:
In the version of the plans that had been scanned by a member of the lis
(drawn black on white)t, the designer of the plans was Keno Don Rosa, and in
the french publication (drawn white on blue), it is "F. L. Braque"
Are there 2 versions of this plan, or did the translators change the facts?
How could Scrooge know there would be a trophy's room and a worry room before
the Bin was built?

About the BB numbers:
In Lo$ 2, the Beagle Boys (fathers of the actual Beagle Boys) have numbers
beginning by 167.

Why, didn't u keep saying that Blackheart had the number 186-802, the dads
numbers beginning by 167, and the children numbers beginning by 176?
What is (at least in the French publication) shown in the story makes the
Boys have the same number than some of their dads 5176-67, 176-671,and
176-176.

THANK U!

Gilles
Timo Ronkainen
>http://goofy313g.free.fr/1.jpg

Looks very much like Mau Heymans

http://goofy313g.free.fr/2.jpg

Tony Strobl. Most probably the one you mentioned: W DD 103-04
>Donald Duck: The Golden Galleon

>http://goofy313g.free.fr/3.jpg

Jack Bradbury (I remember reading this, but...)

Timo

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Armando Botto
Luca Boschi wrote:
> Some of you, INDUCKS guys, for who is interested in this matter, can check
to write something about the "Comic Art" special story I told you about,
some months ago, anche which included portraits of Ziche, Mirone, Perina,
Chendi and so on?

The story is titled "La spedizione dei 1000 secondi". It was written and
drawn by the young artists of the Accademia Disney, in the occasion of the
1990 Lucca Comics convention, and later published in issue # 77 of the
comics magazine "Comic Art".
The story's 9 pages are drawn by 9 different artists: Roberto Santillo,
Silvio Camboni, Silvia Ziche, Alessandro Perina, Paolo Mottura, Roberto
Santillo, Andrea Freccero, Alberto Lavoradori, and Stefano Mirone. In the
last page Mirone portrayed Camboni, G.B. Carpi, Carlo Chendi, Lavoradori,
Mottura, Perina, Santillo, Valeria Turati, Ziche, and himself.
I have scanned this page, and you can find it online at
http://digilander.iol.it/inducks/appo/ca77_s9.jpg , thanks to Paolo
Castagno's courtesy. Have fun trying to identify the various artists - I
will give you the correct solution (provided by Luca) later ;-)

Ciao,
Armando
Dim I Nticoudis
The origins of a number of Ducks' relatives and friends is vague can anybody
help me a bit with them.
1)Flintheart Glomgold.The Southafrican businessman with the Scotish accent
is said in Rosa's"Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck" to be as old as Scrooge
McDuck.Which means he was borned at about 1867.In the same story he states
he is a Boer.Jan van Riebeek's Boers had arrived on 1652.Among them,possibly
Flintheart's ancestors from Holland.Surching about Dutch Ducks I found in
"The Last Voyage of Ringtail Van Dykke"(H 8841)that a brunch of the McDucks
was active in the Spanish Low Lands at least till 1588 under the name "Van
Dykke".The brunch has Scrooge,Donald,Huey,Dewey and Louie as current
descentants.Is Flintheat among the descentants of this brunch?The brunch is
probably Spanish so I searched for Spanish Ducks.In I TL 752-A a Scrooge
McDuck leaves Scotland for Spain on 1392 and establishes a Spanish brunch
under the name "De La Scalogna".In I TL 753-A five of the seven living
members of the brunch leave Spain on Columbus ships on 1492.The two
remaining possibly also lived Spain from Holland.Is this the origin of
Flintheart's family?
2)Magica DeSpell is one of Scrooge's main adversaries and possible romantic
interest.Her familie is,according to many stories,a centuries old Italian
clan of sorcerers that has met the McDucks many times during the
centuries.Magica's nieces Nocina and Minima De Spell are about
Huey's,Dewey's and Louie's age.Is she about the age of Donald,borned
1920?There is an Italian story where she surches for a sorcery book about
Wealth Spells.Has surch has led her to an ancient sorceror who lived in
Duckburg for a while.She faces him and loses due to the help the sorceror
had from his apprentice:novice inventor Gyro Gearloose before his first
appearance on 1952.She loses but manages to take a page who says that if she
melts together coins,each of them touched by a rich man she will make a
powerful charm which will bring her wealth.The Spell is cold "The Midas'
Spell".The sorceror left Duckburg.In 1962 Magica returns to Duckburg in the
story "The Midas Touch"(W US 36-01).Scrooge is the last man in her list.That
means she has already met Flintheart Glomgold and John D.Rockerduck.How long
did the search take?Ten years or more?When did she start looking for the
book?
3)Glittering Goldie O'Gilt(W OS 456-02).One of Scrooge's main romantic
interests.She was already in Canada on 1896 and her name is Irish.Was she
borned on Canada or Ireland?Is she about Matilda McDuck's age,borned
1871?According to I TL 2195-5 she is currently Scrooge's business partner in
Canada.
4)Molly McGold(I TL 1746-A and I TL 2195-5).Molly McGold is the richest
businesswonman in Gooseburg and one of Scrooge's main romantic interests.Her
enterprises are worldwide and she has vowed to be Scrooge's equal.If Scrooge
McDuck is the richest Duck in the world,Flintheart Glomgold the second,John
D.Rockerduck the third she is probably the fourth.She has met Scrooge when
he was seling chestnuts and she was seling ladles.When was that?Is she
Scotish-American.She seems to be a female version of Scrooge.
5)Brigitta McBridge.In her first appearance in I TL 243-A she is said to
have met an Croesus named Scrooge McDuck on 1898.But Scrooge wasn't rich
enough on that year.The year was later corrected to 1928.Scrooge was awfuly
rich during the year.Where did they meet?Has she followed him to Duckburg?By
the way some stories imply she is a wealthy businesswoman herself while
others say she is poor?Why is that?
Can anybody answer me?

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Anders Christian Siveb¾k
SHAUN
>On the subject of names appearing in Don Rosa stories, there was also the
>mention of "Coral Barques". This was in the story where U$ and the boys
get
>a photo of the map of the sunken Spanish treasure fleet in the Florida
Keys
>(I don't recall the story's title). How was this reference handled in
>non-English translations?
In the danish edition it was not handled - the translation was literal -
so the pun was lost.
There wasn't made an entirely new translation for the reprint a couple of
years ago - but anyway such a pun would be hard to make.

Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Fluks, H.W.
Gilles, Timo:

> >http://goofy313g.free.fr/1.jpg
> Looks very much like Mau Heymans

Yes.

> http://goofy313g.free.fr/2.jpg
> Tony Strobl. Most probably the one you mentioned: W DD 103-04
> >Donald Duck: The Golden Galleon

Yep.

> >http://goofy313g.free.fr/3.jpg
> Jack Bradbury

Correct.

Even when the French publications are not in Inducks, you can search for the
story by keywords. For instance the middle story, which shows a title "Le
Galeon Dor?". If you use one of the Inducks search pages (see
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/bolderbast/xsearch.html),
and type "galeon" in the "keywords" field, you will find a dozen stories.
Including W DD 103-04, since the German and Italian titles of that story
include "galeon". If such a search would fail, you could try the English
translation (Galleon), and then you would certainly have found the story.

Maybe if you tell us what "collant" and "anges gardiens" means, or a bit
what the stories are about, we can try to find the 1st and 3rd story.

And, of course, if the French comics you have are not in Inducks, you're
invited to change that situation! 8-)

--Harry.
Goofy313g
Is it normal that in the Dcml archives page, in the column "archive", there
is wrtitten 2016-October???
Such a paranormal fact!!!

Gilles
Goofy313g
Thank u!

That would be nice of you, if you had the original names of the cousins...

"Donald et ses anges gardiens" means "Donald and his guardian angels".
"Le d?tective collant" means "the sticking detective".

As the COA pages don't work today, I couldn't search very welL...
I think the story "Le d?tective collant" is "Krakende kasten" (H 87048
Written by
Evert Geradts
Art by
Mau Heymans
First published
August 16, 1991 )
because it is the only 13 paged story by Heymans with only HDL and DD.

I don't know for the othe one...

Gilles
Sara Adam
Dear all,

Will you please tell me when the first Disney comic was published? Where?
Who published it? Who wrote it and drew it?

Will you also tell me when was the first Disney comic translated into other
languages?

Thanks,
Sara

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Goofy313g
Hi!
I updated my Mezzo section, with a new drawing :
http://goofy313g.free.fr/calisota_online/mezzo/mezzo9.html

Gilles
Teemu.Merikumpu
Hello to everyone from Sonnenberg, Harz, Deutchland. I'm visiting here for
a week and just thought I might send greeting for everyone on this list.
Now keep busy so I'll have lot's of interesting stuff to read when I get
back to Finland.

Teemu

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Dim I Nticoudis
In the excelent story "Monarch of Medioka" of 1937 we are introduced to
king Michael XIV of Medioka who was Mickey's look-alike.Has it ever been
explained what happened to him over the years.Readers of the time speculated
Medioka was a cover-name for Yugoslavia which conditions were similar.Is
Medioka in Disney's version of Yugoslavia borders?Has the similarity between
Michael XIV,Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse been explained?

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