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Actualy,Olivier I haven't kept a copy of the timeline I send you.You can
either send your record of my message to the DCML or inform me to reright
it.

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(Here's Dim's reply to my reply to his post about Donald, which he sent me but no longer has)

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Balances in the Duck Universe.I haven't obtained the story you mentioned but
the Italian Disney recognizes there are many altenate realities to the Duck
Universe,diverging from the main in certain times.This particular timeline
diverges in the birth of Hortense's McDuck children.In a timeline without
Donald and using the dates of the Barks stories and my ideas:
1930.Scrooge McDuck becomes the richest Duck in the world and is isolated
from his family.Without the kick in the bottom he never understands where
was he wrong.
During the 1930's.Scrooge travels for a while around the world.Brigitta
McBridge settles in Duckburg but at the time he is not interested in her.He
is more interested in the businesswoman Molly McGold but she loses most of
her fortune,leaves Duckburg for Gooseburg to make a new beginning and
declines his marriage proposal.Scrooge is feeling betrayed and lonely.
1942.Tired anl lonely Scrooge McDuck shuts down all his business and
retires.Since there is no "Christmas in Bear Mountain" in this reality he
never returns to action.
c1944.Della Duck dies and with her mother being already dead she leaves her
children in the care of her first cousin Gladstone Gander.Glastone,never
having experienced "a bad-luck day" is much lazier than he would have
been.As a family he,his wife-to-be Daisy and his nephews live together but
never reach the potential they had as adventurers.The children also never
join the Junior Woodchucks.Their lifes are insignificant and their only role
in the history of the family is to provide descedants of the family.
1951.The Beagle Boys secretly begun to use the abandoned Money Bin as their
treasury.
1953.Without ever seing her love again Goldie dies alone in the North due to
the hard life she was experiencing.Scrooge already suffers from memory
losses and,without anybody to force him to a doctor and no baths in money to
regenerate him,his body is declining at a speedier rate and he dies shortly
there after 14 years too early.His money go to Gladstone Gander who has no
idea how to use them or protect them.
1956.The fully active Flintheart Glomgold becomes the richest Duck in the
world.With his old enemy dead he goes after his heir Gladstone Gander and
Scrooge's old love Molly McGold who proove easy targets and fall prey to the
senior duck's plots.
1959.Flintheart is officialy proclaimed the Richest Duck in the World having
obtained Most of Scrooge's fortune and Molly's business.Molly
dies.Flintheart never meets any worthwhile ducks and spends his days in
solitude in Souyth Africa.
1960.SEven years after her love's death Brigitta McBridge heart-broken
follows him to the grave.
1961.John D.Rockerduck becomes the Second richest Duck in the world and
faces Flintheart.The two rivals get more ruthless and corrupted as the years
go by.
1962.Magica DeSpell creates her magic charm.But there is no first dime to
give this charm any true power.Withought her fights with Scrooge she lacks
the experience,both as a witch and as a businesswoman,to use the power of
the charm and is only able to get some money Gladstone's way rather than
create a fortune.
1967.Flintheart dies being 100.His money go to John D.Rockerduck,the more
suitable heir.The old corrupted duck uses his now huge fortune and his lack
of rivals to make him self the financial tyrant of his world.Also without
any Paperinik or Paperinika the crime rate of Duckburg increases constantly
without anybody to stop it.
1978.John D.Rockerduck dies a 100.He leaves everything to his nephews.The
Rockerducks are the ruling clan of this world from this year on.Without
actual rivals till 2001 they are moraly and physicaly declined.
So What do you think of my ideas of what the Ducks' world would be without
the presence of Donald Duck?

Some list members have commmented on the poor print quality of the current collection of Barks Christmas stories. This started me thinking about how we want Barks reprints to look in the future (assuming that we have a say in the matter, which of course we don't).

For example: If you pick up a new Superman comic book, you will see really advanced coloring - all kinds of shading and sophisticated computerized effects. The same applies to the Italian superhero version of Donald (PK or Fantonald as he is called in Norway) and also to the new W.I.T.C.H. comic book from Disney. I think both these books look really cool.

But the regular Disney comic books and reprints look pretty much the same as they did thirty years ago - at least in Scandinavia.

When Gladstone published the Carl Barks Library in Color, their colorists did an excellent job but they were quite conservative. They used flat colors for the most part. This looked very nice and clean, but maybe a little boring?

On the other hand, when the Disney company themselves published the comic books, they experimented a litttle. They colored the inside of the ducks' beaks in a darker orange, and sometimes they used light blue on the eyes. Somehow, this did not look right to me.

So ... do we want a Barks reprint with shading, blurred backgrounds and other modern effects? Would this add a new dimension to our reading experience and perhaps open up the world of Barks to younger readers? Or would it just look out of place?

I don't know. Any thoughts?

Nils from Norway

Olaf wrote:

<<
As you may recall, I have a Duckburg homepage in Norwegian. Now, I wonder
what I have to do so that I can HAVE the page there without breaking the
law.

Facts about the site:
- I have TONS of pictures of Disney characters on it
- ALL the pages are marked "All pictures and images of Disney characters on
these pages are copyright ? The Walt Disney Company." However, I have NOT
been in contact with the Walt Disney Company or anyone else.
- I do not, in ANY way, earn money on the site. (that includes *no*
banners.)

If someone connected to WDC - or the police - finds this page, will they
force me into removing it? What can I do to make the site legal?

I know that this list contains very many webmasters from other Disney Comics
homepages. Therefor, I hope someone out there can give me an answer before
I'm thrown in jail.
>>

Being the author of different web sites on Disney comics, I'll answer your question with pleasure.

Fact is, that distributing Disney comics online is illegal. You should be careful to NOT
do that. If you just put a few images on the web, this is different.
Now this is only my opinion, but I can hardly imagine a suit filled against you because of a few images,
especially since so many fans do the same.

But be careful not to post full stories as it's illegal.

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Blasco Pisapia wrote:
> Some time ago, Italian magazine Zio Paperone published a wonderful drawing
of the Trophy Room by Don Rosa, in which all Scrooge's treasures where
portraied. It was sort of a game, the readers were challenged to identify
all of them.
I don't have my collection right here to check myself, but I can ask a
friend of mine to fetch the magazine, *IF* I can tell him the number of the
issue... Could anyone help me?

The drawing is in Zio Paperone # 99. Its original title is "Anything but
those", and it was originally published in "Uncle Scrooge" # 300. I'm sorry
I can't provide you with a scan right now...

Ciao,
Armando

From: "enrico faccini" <fethry at libero.it>

> I'm Enrico Faccini, Disney comics artist and writers.

Welcome to the list!

--
Francesco

Hi, Dave, and all the INDUCKS gang!

I just got a telephone conversation with Romano Scarpa one minute ago. And I
learn... that is necessary to change some credits in the INDUCKS!

Romano apologizes to have never provided before to say that some of his
early stories, that we all credited to G. Martina, are written and
storyboarded by himself.

Specifically, I SETTE NANI E IL TRONO DI DIAMANTI

and PAPERINO E L'ANTIDOLLAROSSERA.

So, they are Scarpa/Scarpa stories. He shall check the credits we wrote in
all the chronologies (he never did it before!) to se in there are any other.

This matter is important becouse the I SETTE NANI E IL TRONO DI DIAMANTI
story is gonna be printed in other countries very soon in the FANTASTIC WALT
tribute book If it is still possible to change the credits (DAVID???) and
give to Scarpa what is Scarpa's... He shall be very glad.

I just checked the "normal" Chronologies and I found Romano is (obvoiusly)
right.
The "mistake" we all made is coming from the Fossati's old Index written for
IF. Maybe he "decided" that the two stories were written by Martina becouse
he didn't find the "RS" hidden signature in them. But, indeed, they were
ERASED by the editor. Romano put them into the pages and they could have
been:

PAPERINO E L'ANTIDOLLAROSSERA (RS 7) published after the "RS" 6 - T E LA
NAVE DEL MICROCOSMO - 'cause the monthly, delayed schedule of "Albi d'Oro");

I SETTE NANI E IL TRONO DI DIAMANTI (R6 8).

Later, we don't find any hidden signature in P E LA LEGGENDA DELLO
"SCOZZESE VOLANTE", which is RS 9...

And then, again,we find the number in T E L'UNGHIA DI KALI' ("RS 10").

So, the mystery of Scarpa stories' sequence is solved.

So, it's clear WHY Jiminy Cricket is called "Gimmy" ONLY in that "made in
Italy" story (the only one written by Scarpa introducing that character).

Bye,

Luca

PS: Maybe you can do something, Dave?

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>Da: DGE at ECN.egmont.com
>A: cnotw at zen.it
>Cc: dcml at numerus.LING.UU.SE
>Oggetto: RE: Pete, or Gambadilegno, or other Petes
>Data: Ven, 12 gen 2001 17:08
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> Hey Luca!
>
>>And I see that Dave Gerstein is right. The whole production of Western,
>>starting with Hannah-Barks' "DD Finds Pirate's Gold", has BLACK PETE
> instead
>>of PEG-LEG PETE.
>
> Actually, not the *whole* production.
> Some of Western's earliest MM production, such as "Mickey's
> Christmas Trees" from Firestone 1946, does use the name Pegleg Pete.
>
>>Starting from the beginning, in "Steamboat Willie" (1928) he has no name
>
> >Gulp!< But that's not quite the beginning! In some 1927-28 Oswald
> cartoons that came earlier, he is called Pegleg Pete, for example on a
> wanted poster in OZZIE OF THE MOUNTED.
>
>>And it really seems
>>that in no movies there is the name "Black Pete".
>
> In one cartoon, THE LONE CHIPMUNKS (with Chip 'n' Dale), Pete is
> referred to as Black Pete by another character.
>
> Best,
> David