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> From: Thierry Fernand [mailto:favio31 at caramail.com]
> Sent: woensdag 21 november 2001 2:58

> + a very nice chat group (43 members)
> http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dcfdisneycomicfans

Is that "chat group" different from DCML? If yes, what's the difference? If
no, why not simply chat on DCML in stead?

(I dislike the idea of becoming a "member" of something, even if it's free.)

--Harry.

I've been looking at this in Inducks and it seems that it was published
as four parts in Italy.
In the US M&D #6,7 and 8 only is qouted as a reprint whith much less
pages, 21+22+16=59 pages, than in the original four parts,
20+20+19+17=76 pages.
Was only the first three parts printed in the US or whas it so heavily
edited that it could fit in these M&D issues ?

What parts were in that case omitted ? Where they too violent for the
Americans who see all kinds of violence on their TV:s or what ? Irony.
:-)

Does anyone know ?

Ola in cloudy Stockholm +/- 0 and calm

From: "Thierry Fernand" <favio31 at caramail.com>

>>> + a very nice chat group (43 members)

>Now 63 members!

There's an insisting rumor that yahoo is about to shut down all its clubs
and/or convert them into mailing lists. If this became true I really see no
point in having another disney ML in English. So far clubs might be good
web-people (read "newbies") who don't know what ML's are and don't want to
know.

--
Sprea

Because of its historical importance, "Somewhere in Nowhere", the last story by Carl Barks, is
now available to English - speaking readers at http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dcfdisneycomicfans
(check the photo section).

Also available (thanks to ZapJones): Mickey Mouse: Foray to Mount Fishflake
by Floyd Gottfredson.

Favio
Purvoilleur of great comics

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> From: Thierry Fernand [mailto:favio31 at caramail.com]
> Sent: maandag 26 november 2001 22:58

> http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dcfdisneycomicfans

> Personally, I find the discussion more friendly, less formal
> on "DCF" rather than DCML.

That's funny. What could be the cause of that? Maybe DCML has more *old*
members (i.e. people older than 30), because it already exists since 1992?
Or maybe I or others get a bit grumpy when people write illegible ("more
friendly"?) messages to DCML.

> And I find it silly to try
> to convince everyone to be on the same place.

I don't find that silly. I don't want to miss interesting discussions about
Disney comics. I don't like to have to join a new group every few months.
(And I think I'm complaining about this fact every few months...)

BTW, I also like the stuff to enter my mailbox automatically, so I don't
need to do any action other than reading my mail.

> Forums and chat
> groups have interesting and less interesting
> periods, they die and come to life again.

DCML is a more persistent mailing list than the usual. As I said, it's "to
life" since 1992.

> > (I dislike the idea of becoming a "member" of something,
> > even if it's >free.)
>
> Aren't you a "member" of DCML?

Yes, but I didn't need to subscribe to a commercial party. Per Starb?ck is a
comic fan and amateur. So I can be sure that my e-mail address is used for
nothing else than this mailing list.

--Harry.
("Sorry! You have reached a Members-Only area")

Harald Havas:

> I don't know if there's still anybody here who remembers me.

There sure is! Nice "talking" with you again.
Your books sounds very interesting. And it will be in a language I can read!
8-)

> - Barks: what was important between his trip to Europe 1994
> and his death?
> Any more paintings? Any more stories written? Something else
> - like a series
> of Donald drawings(?) he did at the time when he officially
> became a "Disney
> Legend". Private stuff (end of his affiliation with his
> former management).
> Who knows about this? Where can I find a up-to-date biography
> that includes these details?

I don't know how up-to-date it is, but you might try Dani?l's "Guidebook"
site:
http://www.seriesam.com/barks/ (and maybe in particular
http://www.seriesam.com/barks/art_dn.html).

Barks had some small involvement in the story "Somewhere in Nowhere". He
also did a few paintings after 1994. And he did a bunch of drawings (70 or
so) to celebrate his 96th birthday. And he wrote a poem for his fans
(published here on DCML). And he probably did some other things that I
forgot to mention.

> - other artists: we'd like to include a (short) chapter showing the
> unknowing public what happened to Disney-Comics after Taliaferro,
> Gottfredson and Barks. I mean: GREAT creators that followed
> their footsteps. Like Rosa or Rota. Now: Who would you include?

Apart from Scarpa, I'd mention Daan Jippes. And possibly Mau Heymans. And
maybe Daniel Branca.

> Where would I find informations on their
> individual biographies and bibliographies?

For bibliographies, you can of course consult our Inducks database. For
instance following links from
http://home.wxs.nl/~fluks4/bolderbast/

> 1. Bad English
> There's a trick! Write your mail in Word (or a similar
> program) turn on
> "English" as language and the program shows you all your
> misspellings - and can edit them! ;-)

Not *all* your misspellings. No computer program has been good enough to
correct "I don't no weather the whether will bee good tomorrow".

--Harry.

Favio:

> > I don't like to have to join a new group every few months.

> Ah so that's it, you don't like to join a newsgroup.

No, I wrote "new group", not "newsgroup"!

Several times a year, someone decides to create a new group. Like a Carl
Barks discussion group, a Don Rosa group, etcetera. So if I want to keep up
to date, I should join a new (space space space) group every few months.

Anyway, I hope the *interesting* things will still be forwarded to DCML.

--Harry.

PETRI:

> I simply can't stand Pier Lorenzo De Vita's style. Doesn't matter
> how good the plot is, I can't see it through the drawings.

Oddly enough, I've made myself read some pretty stupid stories, simply
because I enjoy Pier Lorenzo De Vita's style!

DIMOS:

> Kriton it is your right to stop helping Komix get some publishity.But read
> the issue more carefuly.The two main articles-7 pages- are about Walter
> Elias Disney(1901-1966).The article about Snow White has only 2 pages.I
> didn't like it that there is no accompanying article for such a great story
> as "Hearts of the Yukon" and that more of Aragones's stories are going to be
> published but anyone who wants information on Sir Samuel Benfield
> Steele(1849-1919) and John Griffith "Jack" London Chaney(1876-1916) can
> search for himself as I did.There are plenty of pages for both in the
> Internet.

I did read the articles, and the (false) impression I got really was that
there were only articles about Snow White. That's how interesting I found
the articles about Walt Disney--they left absolutely no impression on me.
If there really are readers who are interested in Disney himself, I assume
that they would not have waited till his 100th birthday to read about him,
so a couple of these seven pages that you mention would have been put
to much better use if they had contained an article about Don's story.
I wonder if Disney (the company) made them publish all these articles,
or whether Don's article was removed at the last moment in favor of that
Lord of the Rings ad masquerading as an article.

TIMO:

> Aragones' Groo is good comic, but I admit it's in totally wrong place..
> Very strange...

The issue is not whether Aragones' comics are good (people say they are,
and under different circumstances I would have been looking forward to
reading that story), but whether readers should be made to pay more to
read less (as was the case with the Space Circus) of what the magazine
they are buying is supposed to publish.

Kriton (e-mail: kyrimis at cti.gr)
(WWW: http://dias.cti.gr/~kyrimis)
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