Pekka:
> > And another "yes", ph.d. is pro gradu.
> >
>No, it's not. Pro gradu is master's thesis.
Ok, that then, I'm not very familiar with the English words for these. I
just assumed that since Marja's gradu was titled ph.d. it would mean that
ph.d. is gradu in English. (Or is there some mix up about "gradu" having
different meanings in different languages?)
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Ari Seppi
Re 739: Anders (Marja Ritola)
Message 196 -
2001-11-18 at 15:59:37
Petri Kanninen
Finnish Carl Barks Seminar
Message 197 -
2001-11-18 at 18:44:05
ARI:
>Donald Ault (yippee, we had Donald Ault) talked... a lot actually. One of
>his main themes was the diversity of the possibilities to understand the
>Barks series (he used the first dime as an example). He also had a quite
I must say that Don Ault was really good. I've always thought that he,
as a professor and after examining Barks stories to such lengths, would
have an academic relationship with them. But while he talked about the
stories and what happened in them, you could see he got more excited all
the time and finally his face literally shone with enthusiasm. It was very
nice to listen to such a great analysis from a person who thinks the
subject is something else than one research subject among others.
I have to agree Ari with the statement "We want more and lots of it!". Too
bad they couldn't arrange the seminar so that Don Rosa could have come
there too. That would have been something like a paradise.
--
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Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
>Donald Ault (yippee, we had Donald Ault) talked... a lot actually. One of
>his main themes was the diversity of the possibilities to understand the
>Barks series (he used the first dime as an example). He also had a quite
I must say that Don Ault was really good. I've always thought that he,
as a professor and after examining Barks stories to such lengths, would
have an academic relationship with them. But while he talked about the
stories and what happened in them, you could see he got more excited all
the time and finally his face literally shone with enthusiasm. It was very
nice to listen to such a great analysis from a person who thinks the
subject is something else than one research subject among others.
I have to agree Ari with the statement "We want more and lots of it!". Too
bad they couldn't arrange the seminar so that Don Rosa could have come
there too. That would have been something like a paradise.
--
Petri Kanninen (pkannine at cc.hut.fi)
Aku Ankan taskukirja -tietokanta: http:/www.perunamaa.net/taskarit/
"Elokuvataiteen kannalta Van Damme on ollut merkitt?vimmill??n
Replicant-elokuvan loppuhuipennuksessa, jossa h?n potki ja
pieksi perusteellisesti itse??n." -Mikko Vienonen, IS 13.10.2001
Timo Ronkainen
Re 739: Anders (Marja Ritola)
Message 198 -
2001-11-18 at 22:34:59
>> > And another "yes", ph.d. is pro gradu.
>> >
>>No, it's not. Pro gradu is master's thesis.
>
>Ok, that then, I'm not very familiar with the English words for these. I
>just assumed that since Marja's gradu was titled ph.d. it would mean that
You need to do doctoral thesis to have Ph.D.
Pro Gradu must be done before that. It is Master's Thesis.
Although there might be some differences with these in different countries.
And with the terms...
Timo
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>> >
>>No, it's not. Pro gradu is master's thesis.
>
>Ok, that then, I'm not very familiar with the English words for these. I
>just assumed that since Marja's gradu was titled ph.d. it would mean that
You need to do doctoral thesis to have Ph.D.
Pro Gradu must be done before that. It is Master's Thesis.
Although there might be some differences with these in different countries.
And with the terms...
Timo
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Ordi
Mickey Mouse Magazine 3rd series
Message 199 -
2001-11-19 at 07:18:02
Is there anyone could tell me which issues about Mickey Mouse Magazine 3rd
series contain story, sunday pages, or simple one daily about disney
carecters?
If it's easier sign which contains only text stories.
Thank you
(I'm very sorry for my bad english)
Paolo Bontempi
series contain story, sunday pages, or simple one daily about disney
carecters?
If it's easier sign which contains only text stories.
Thank you
(I'm very sorry for my bad english)
Paolo Bontempi
Jussi Mantere
Re 739: Anders (Marja Ritola)
Message 200 -
2001-11-19 at 09:37:54
On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Ari Seppi wrote:
> Ok, that then, I'm not very familiar with the English words for these. I
> just assumed that since Marja's gradu was titled ph.d. it would mean that
> ph.d. is gradu in English. (Or is there some mix up about "gradu" having
> different meanings in different languages?)
Just to clear up:
"pro gradu" = "after graduation"
"pro gradu" = term for Master's Thesis in Finnish universities
Master = the lowest "higher" academic level of graduation
Ph.D = Doctor of Philosophy, in Finnish "Fil. tri"
PhD Thesis = the thesis you write before dissertation, in order to
graduate as a doctor.
-jussi
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. jussi mantere
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. I'm not coming down
> Ok, that then, I'm not very familiar with the English words for these. I
> just assumed that since Marja's gradu was titled ph.d. it would mean that
> ph.d. is gradu in English. (Or is there some mix up about "gradu" having
> different meanings in different languages?)
Just to clear up:
"pro gradu" = "after graduation"
"pro gradu" = term for Master's Thesis in Finnish universities
Master = the lowest "higher" academic level of graduation
Ph.D = Doctor of Philosophy, in Finnish "Fil. tri"
PhD Thesis = the thesis you write before dissertation, in order to
graduate as a doctor.
-jussi
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. jussi mantere
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. I'm not coming down
Archontis Pantsios
MIKY MAOUS & DONALD
Message 201 -
2001-11-19 at 11:27:40
Fellow Quackeroos:
One more week of Greek Disneys:
1) MIKY MAOUS #1843, November 9, 2001
a) Magica de Spell in "La furia degli elementi", from "Topolino" #2277, 1999
(42 pages). Script: Lello Arena & Francesco Artibani; Art: Giorgio
Cavazzano. (My note: This story is a "sequel" to "La pietra pantarba", TL
#2043, 1995 by the same set of creators. Both stories are excellent!)
b) Donald Duck in "Il ferro portafortuna", from "Topolino" #698, 1969 (15
pages). Script: Rodolfo Cimino; Art: Giorgio Cavazzano. (My note: A very
different Cavazzano style compared to the one above; after all, this was
Cavazzano's only 5th or 6th "solo" try.)
c) Mickey Mouse in "The Case of the Vanishing Buttons", WDC&S #468, 1979 (11
pages). Script: Unknown; Art: Paul Murry.
d) Lil' Bad Wolf in "The Nightmare", WDC&S #421, 1975 (6 pages). Script:
Unknown; Art: Jack Bradbury.
2) DONALD #48, November 2001
a) Donald Duck in "La festa miliardaria", from "Paperino" #210, 1997 (30
pages). Script: Carmen Gozzo; Art: Sandro Dossi.
b) Uncle Scrooge in "La valle lentissima", from "Paperino Mese" #166, 1994
(31 pages). Script: Fabio Michelini; Art: Gianpaolo Soldati.
c) Donald Duck in "La grande sagra", from "Paperino" #210, 1997 (30 pages).
Script: Tito Faraci; Art: Lucio Leoni.
Interesting news: in addition to December's KOMIX being a Walt Disney
Centennial special issue re-printing Hank Porter's "Snow White and the Seven
Dwarfs" and Don Rosa's "Hearts of the Yukon", MIKY MAOUS #1847, scheduled to
hit the stands in Athens on Dec. 7, will also be a WD centennial issue:
it'll be extra thick (196 pages) and will also feature articles and
"interviews", something atypical of MM.
'Til next week,
Archontis
--------------------------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228
One more week of Greek Disneys:
1) MIKY MAOUS #1843, November 9, 2001
a) Magica de Spell in "La furia degli elementi", from "Topolino" #2277, 1999
(42 pages). Script: Lello Arena & Francesco Artibani; Art: Giorgio
Cavazzano. (My note: This story is a "sequel" to "La pietra pantarba", TL
#2043, 1995 by the same set of creators. Both stories are excellent!)
b) Donald Duck in "Il ferro portafortuna", from "Topolino" #698, 1969 (15
pages). Script: Rodolfo Cimino; Art: Giorgio Cavazzano. (My note: A very
different Cavazzano style compared to the one above; after all, this was
Cavazzano's only 5th or 6th "solo" try.)
c) Mickey Mouse in "The Case of the Vanishing Buttons", WDC&S #468, 1979 (11
pages). Script: Unknown; Art: Paul Murry.
d) Lil' Bad Wolf in "The Nightmare", WDC&S #421, 1975 (6 pages). Script:
Unknown; Art: Jack Bradbury.
2) DONALD #48, November 2001
a) Donald Duck in "La festa miliardaria", from "Paperino" #210, 1997 (30
pages). Script: Carmen Gozzo; Art: Sandro Dossi.
b) Uncle Scrooge in "La valle lentissima", from "Paperino Mese" #166, 1994
(31 pages). Script: Fabio Michelini; Art: Gianpaolo Soldati.
c) Donald Duck in "La grande sagra", from "Paperino" #210, 1997 (30 pages).
Script: Tito Faraci; Art: Lucio Leoni.
Interesting news: in addition to December's KOMIX being a Walt Disney
Centennial special issue re-printing Hank Porter's "Snow White and the Seven
Dwarfs" and Don Rosa's "Hearts of the Yukon", MIKY MAOUS #1847, scheduled to
hit the stands in Athens on Dec. 7, will also be a WD centennial issue:
it'll be extra thick (196 pages) and will also feature articles and
"interviews", something atypical of MM.
'Til next week,
Archontis
--------------------------------------------------
Archontis L. Pantsios, Ph.D.
Assistant Academic Dean & Professor of Economics
The American College of Thessaloniki
Thessaloniki--GREECE
Phone #: +30-310-398228
Timo Ronkainen
WD 100 festivities?
Message 202 -
2001-11-19 at 12:08:19
I wonder what kind of festivities there will be to celebrate Walt Disney's
100th birthday around the world December 5th?
Timo
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100th birthday around the world December 5th?
Timo
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20540 Turku ------------------- -
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Ph.D vs. M.D
Message 203 -
2001-11-19 at 13:41:16
SOREN:
> Ph.D. means "Doctor of Philosophy" which is equally confusing,
> since it is not a real doctor degree and it doesn't necessarily have
> anything to do with "philosophy" (in the modern sense).
Ph.D actually means "Philosophiae Doctor", which is Latin for "teacher
of philosophy". According to the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary,
the first of the many meanings of the word "philosophy" is "all learning
exclusive of technical precepts and practical arts".
The other kind of "doctor" is "Medicinae Doctor", i.e., "teacher of
medicine".
The only confusing about these two terms is why they are both abbreviated
as "Doctor".
> S?ren
> M.Sc., Ph.D.
Kriton
M.A., Ph.D. ;-)
-----
"While Time is a fine teacher, she eventually kills all her pupils."
-----
> Ph.D. means "Doctor of Philosophy" which is equally confusing,
> since it is not a real doctor degree and it doesn't necessarily have
> anything to do with "philosophy" (in the modern sense).
Ph.D actually means "Philosophiae Doctor", which is Latin for "teacher
of philosophy". According to the Merriam-Webster Collegiate Dictionary,
the first of the many meanings of the word "philosophy" is "all learning
exclusive of technical precepts and practical arts".
The other kind of "doctor" is "Medicinae Doctor", i.e., "teacher of
medicine".
The only confusing about these two terms is why they are both abbreviated
as "Doctor".
> S?ren
> M.Sc., Ph.D.
Kriton
M.A., Ph.D. ;-)
-----
"While Time is a fine teacher, she eventually kills all her pupils."
-----
Paulo Ferreira
The Empeeror's New Groove and Snow White
Message 204 -
2001-11-19 at 15:39:47
Hello,
In Portugal we published a comic book version of this movie.
Paulo Ferreira
-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Ventura [mailto:fernandopventura at uol.com.br]
Sent: domingo, 18 de Novembro de 2001 1:17
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Subject: The Empeeror's New Groove and Snow White
I didn't saw any comic book version of this movie...it was did one? I
suppose it wasn't, since there was so few merchandising things on it...in
any way, it was really a funny movie! I think there are only one-page gags
published on "Disney Adventure" magazine on USA...isn't it indexed on
Inducks?
This week Abril launched a comic book version of Snow White...how many
different comic adaptations it has?
On the second disc of the Platinium Edition of Snow White's DVD there are
some pages of the original comic, and also the Gladstone print.
Fernando! :)
In Portugal we published a comic book version of this movie.
Paulo Ferreira
-----Original Message-----
From: Fernando Ventura [mailto:fernandopventura at uol.com.br]
Sent: domingo, 18 de Novembro de 2001 1:17
To: dcml at stp.ling.uu.se
Subject: The Empeeror's New Groove and Snow White
I didn't saw any comic book version of this movie...it was did one? I
suppose it wasn't, since there was so few merchandising things on it...in
any way, it was really a funny movie! I think there are only one-page gags
published on "Disney Adventure" magazine on USA...isn't it indexed on
Inducks?
This week Abril launched a comic book version of Snow White...how many
different comic adaptations it has?
On the second disc of the Platinium Edition of Snow White's DVD there are
some pages of the original comic, and also the Gladstone print.
Fernando! :)
Ducks Ducks
A question
Message 205 -
2001-11-19 at 15:59:39
What does "313" mean anything? A friend of mine said that there is a hidden
door with the number "13" on the Main Street in the DisneyLand in Florida,
you have to look for it very hard. The door leads you to upstairs of Wet
Bar and card tables everywhere, not suitable for the children. Is it true?
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you have to look for it very hard. The door leads you to upstairs of Wet
Bar and card tables everywhere, not suitable for the children. Is it true?
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Rosa in Poland and India, ducks in Arabia
Message 206 -
2001-11-19 at 21:13:16
Hi all
On the duckhunt maillist we're talking about Rosa comics having come out
in India, in english. I wonder if anyone connected with egmont (maybe
David?) could tell us about that.
Overmore I received today, from a swapmate in Poland the 3rd isssue of
their Scrooge magazine, featuring 5 stories by Don plus a page with
information about the artist.
The choice of comics seems rather random, and the cover illustrates the
Africa-chapter of the Lo$ which is not in the comic. But still, it's
ghreat to see good comics being published in parts of the world which had
none of such some 12 years ago.
I also recently received 4 comics from Arabia, having now the 5 different
comics published in 14 arabian countries. No Rosa in the newest of those,
but many italian stories in large or normal format. I got these through
the very nice editor, situated in Kuwait.
I do have quite many foreign comics, and I would like to scan some of the
covers for the homepages I know of - but I haven't the time at the moment,
but I hope I will have it at Christmas.
Could you people here help me find out in how many countries disney comics
are published, and how many of these are egmont companies or associates?
which would those be. I have an umcomplete list at home, which I'll find.
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
On the duckhunt maillist we're talking about Rosa comics having come out
in India, in english. I wonder if anyone connected with egmont (maybe
David?) could tell us about that.
Overmore I received today, from a swapmate in Poland the 3rd isssue of
their Scrooge magazine, featuring 5 stories by Don plus a page with
information about the artist.
The choice of comics seems rather random, and the cover illustrates the
Africa-chapter of the Lo$ which is not in the comic. But still, it's
ghreat to see good comics being published in parts of the world which had
none of such some 12 years ago.
I also recently received 4 comics from Arabia, having now the 5 different
comics published in 14 arabian countries. No Rosa in the newest of those,
but many italian stories in large or normal format. I got these through
the very nice editor, situated in Kuwait.
I do have quite many foreign comics, and I would like to scan some of the
covers for the homepages I know of - but I haven't the time at the moment,
but I hope I will have it at Christmas.
Could you people here help me find out in how many countries disney comics
are published, and how many of these are egmont companies or associates?
which would those be. I have an umcomplete list at home, which I'll find.
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Fabio Blanco
A question
Message 207 -
2001-11-19 at 21:37:13
> What does "313" mean anything? A friend of mine said that there is a
hidden
> door with the number "13" on the Main Street in the DisneyLand in Florida,
> you have to look for it very hard. The door leads you to upstairs of Wet
> Bar and card tables everywhere, not suitable for the children. Is it true?
Well, not really. In the door some girls dressed like the Alice in
Wonderland's white rabbit give you coats and an eskimo's guy guide you
stairs down. In the walls are pictures of Donald, Mickey, Bro Rabbit, etc.,
carving in the stone...
You'll down and down until a great cristal door custoding by seven
animatronics dwarfs (I dont know his names in dutch). Before the door you'll
see an old and venerable man with a little moustache. In some determined
moment, while the dwarfs mumbles Hi-hooo, hi-hooo, the old man wave a hand
and say: "Hi, indeed, welcome to the wonderfull Disney-land". Sounds the
music of the old tv show, put you and all tourists in little sled under
rails ( no dogs, but squirrels resembling Chip & Dale). Make two curves, up,
up and down in a great water tank... Heyyyy!!!
=) only joking
FABIO
(from the hot whether buenos aires)
????????????????????
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
hidden
> door with the number "13" on the Main Street in the DisneyLand in Florida,
> you have to look for it very hard. The door leads you to upstairs of Wet
> Bar and card tables everywhere, not suitable for the children. Is it true?
Well, not really. In the door some girls dressed like the Alice in
Wonderland's white rabbit give you coats and an eskimo's guy guide you
stairs down. In the walls are pictures of Donald, Mickey, Bro Rabbit, etc.,
carving in the stone...
You'll down and down until a great cristal door custoding by seven
animatronics dwarfs (I dont know his names in dutch). Before the door you'll
see an old and venerable man with a little moustache. In some determined
moment, while the dwarfs mumbles Hi-hooo, hi-hooo, the old man wave a hand
and say: "Hi, indeed, welcome to the wonderfull Disney-land". Sounds the
music of the old tv show, put you and all tourists in little sled under
rails ( no dogs, but squirrels resembling Chip & Dale). Make two curves, up,
up and down in a great water tank... Heyyyy!!!
=) only joking
FABIO
(from the hot whether buenos aires)
????????????????????
bonvolu postu al longtom at oeste.com.ar
Thierry Fernand
Yahoo Disney Comics Club
Message 208 -
2001-11-20 at 09:51:51
"The Think Boxes" by Carl Barks, at Yahoo's
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/dcfdisneycomicfans
Favio
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Ph. d.
Message 209 -
2001-11-20 at 16:06:58
Hi friends
Allow me to laugh a bit, in a friendly way.
I was only wanting to know if I could get to read that finnish ____ about
intertextuality in Rosa's stories. Is the author online, and are any of
you in contact with her, so you could inform her about the interest from
duckhunt's info-adress maintainer?
ph.d or pro gradu - I guess it's a question of definitions, maybe even
individual definitions. I'll end my eduction with a bachelor's degree as
it looks now (quite new aspect in the danish teacher's college)
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Allow me to laugh a bit, in a friendly way.
I was only wanting to know if I could get to read that finnish ____ about
intertextuality in Rosa's stories. Is the author online, and are any of
you in contact with her, so you could inform her about the interest from
duckhunt's info-adress maintainer?
ph.d or pro gradu - I guess it's a question of definitions, maybe even
individual definitions. I'll end my eduction with a bachelor's degree as
it looks now (quite new aspect in the danish teacher's college)
Hilsen/Yours
Anders Christian Siveb?k
Donaldist
Botto Armando
Scrooge and Paperinika
Message 210 -
2001-11-20 at 16:59:38
Hi, Dim! You wrote:
> But even Mr.Barks in his "Voodoo Hoodoo" explained that Scrooge can be
overcome by greed who leads him to atrocious actions.I consider most of the
Martina's stories such moments of extreme greed.I believe that we are seing
Scrooge's brightest and darkest sides in the stories of different creators.I
usualy just disregard the stories who present Scrooge as childish,foolish or
ignorant.Those are probably the only things he is definitely not.
OK, I see your point. As for myself, I prefer the stories by the (very few)
creators who manage to handle all of Scrooge's sides simultaneously...
But again, I feel the need to point out that there are quite a few good
stories by Martina. He probably should have retired a few years earlier than
he actually did, but that's only my opinion...
> Paperinik and Paperinika express different viewpoints so I don't think
they are clones of each other.I think these identities express Donald's and
Daisy's need for revenge.But the targets are different.Donald/Paperinik
targets those who personaly wronged him or criminals inforcing his own type
of "justice".Daisy also leads the feminists group of Duckburg by proving
what a woman worths.Her revenje is against prejudism.She also trys to
inforce her own version of "justice".Where this versions are similar and
where there is a contrast between them is the story's main interesting
point.And Paperinik was geting too arrogant by the time.A few losses would
help him think better.
Paperinik should *never* lose ;-)
I went to check the Paperinika stories after the first, and was surprised to
see there's only three of them! Not only that, but I've read only the second
one ("Paperinika contro Paperinik", again by Martina/Cavazzano): the
remaining two are too "recent" for my collection (and one of them is drawn
by Giancarlo Gatti, whose style could make the best scripts look like trash
;-)).
So, Paperinika was not as recurrent a character as I thought - probably I
disliked the character so much that I uncounsciously multiplied her
appearances in my memory... which may be regarded as a proof that my
judgement is biased, so I won't insist in denigrating her ;-)
> What do you mean silly Super Goof stories?As far as I know there isn't one
that is close to serious.
I meant "silly" in the sense of "superficial, unoriginal, dull". Some Super
Goof stories (especially the early ones) were funny without being silly.
> You are right about Mickey.Gottfredson handled the character better than
the rest. [...] He is ambitious and well-balanced.Even Scarpa didn't gave
his Mouse such a style.
I'm curious to hear Sprea's (and Francesco Gerbaldo's) opinion on this last
sentence... ;-)
> And a question.Recently in Greece we have more and more reprints of
Italian stories staring Pete.What happened?Italians got bored of Mickey as
Americans did before them?
I leave this answer to fellow countrymen of mine with a deeper knowledge of
the recent Italian production...
Ciao,
Armando
> But even Mr.Barks in his "Voodoo Hoodoo" explained that Scrooge can be
overcome by greed who leads him to atrocious actions.I consider most of the
Martina's stories such moments of extreme greed.I believe that we are seing
Scrooge's brightest and darkest sides in the stories of different creators.I
usualy just disregard the stories who present Scrooge as childish,foolish or
ignorant.Those are probably the only things he is definitely not.
OK, I see your point. As for myself, I prefer the stories by the (very few)
creators who manage to handle all of Scrooge's sides simultaneously...
But again, I feel the need to point out that there are quite a few good
stories by Martina. He probably should have retired a few years earlier than
he actually did, but that's only my opinion...
> Paperinik and Paperinika express different viewpoints so I don't think
they are clones of each other.I think these identities express Donald's and
Daisy's need for revenge.But the targets are different.Donald/Paperinik
targets those who personaly wronged him or criminals inforcing his own type
of "justice".Daisy also leads the feminists group of Duckburg by proving
what a woman worths.Her revenje is against prejudism.She also trys to
inforce her own version of "justice".Where this versions are similar and
where there is a contrast between them is the story's main interesting
point.And Paperinik was geting too arrogant by the time.A few losses would
help him think better.
Paperinik should *never* lose ;-)
I went to check the Paperinika stories after the first, and was surprised to
see there's only three of them! Not only that, but I've read only the second
one ("Paperinika contro Paperinik", again by Martina/Cavazzano): the
remaining two are too "recent" for my collection (and one of them is drawn
by Giancarlo Gatti, whose style could make the best scripts look like trash
;-)).
So, Paperinika was not as recurrent a character as I thought - probably I
disliked the character so much that I uncounsciously multiplied her
appearances in my memory... which may be regarded as a proof that my
judgement is biased, so I won't insist in denigrating her ;-)
> What do you mean silly Super Goof stories?As far as I know there isn't one
that is close to serious.
I meant "silly" in the sense of "superficial, unoriginal, dull". Some Super
Goof stories (especially the early ones) were funny without being silly.
> You are right about Mickey.Gottfredson handled the character better than
the rest. [...] He is ambitious and well-balanced.Even Scarpa didn't gave
his Mouse such a style.
I'm curious to hear Sprea's (and Francesco Gerbaldo's) opinion on this last
sentence... ;-)
> And a question.Recently in Greece we have more and more reprints of
Italian stories staring Pete.What happened?Italians got bored of Mickey as
Americans did before them?
I leave this answer to fellow countrymen of mine with a deeper knowledge of
the recent Italian production...
Ciao,
Armando